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Spotify: it's the new iTunes

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It's already been mentioned a few times on the WORD blog, but can we just say how much we love Spotify? The Swedish-based online music service seems finally to have cracked the tricky business of streaming music to your PC without it feeling clunky or intrusive.

Essentially Spotify looks and behaves like iTunes – similar search, playlists, random play etc - with the immeasurable advantage that the music doesn't sit on your hard-drive. Instead the files are on servers around the world and the music streams to you, on demand, extremely quickly while advertisers pay the bill (unless you want to pay a fee for premium services). It looks like this:

We are, literally, in love with it, particularly the fantastic collaborative playlists function which lets you start a playlist and then pass it on to friends to add to as they will.

WORD readers can start using Spotify by clicking here. Once you've joined, you can listen to a couple of playlists we've already made and contribute to them too.

There's THE WORD's Infinite Playlist, which you can add to and amend. And we've also created a playlist containing as many tracks from the WORD Festive Fifty 2008 as Spotify has, in non-modifiable form. However it looks a bit dull so here's a load of Bob Dylan instead:

Have a go and let us know what you think. We'll be running more collaborative playlists in the weeks to come. Anyone fancy the Friday Disco with actual music?

INFINITE PLAYLIST UPDATE:

1] Please don't post millions of tracks by the same band. You have no idea how hard I fight the urge to post the entire Pet Shop Boys catalogue.

2] We reserve the right to delete tracks if they're not "in the spirit of things", or move them about.

3] By all means post 'Nantucket Sleigh Ride' (as someome has already done) but very long tracks are going to get bumped to the end. See also: 'Supper's Ready' by Genesis.

Thank you for your co-operation and participation!

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The first amendment

Fleet Foxes removed :-)

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stimpy | 4 February 2009 - 11:20am

Are you sure?

I'm literally listening to it right now!

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Andrew Harrison | 4 February 2009 - 11:23am

Me

too

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Fraser Lewry | 4 February 2009 - 11:23am

Yeah, I definitely deleted

Mykonos and it's not on the Infinite playlist in *my* Spotify

Maybe it holds a local copy of the playlist and I've just deleted it from my copy of the playlist??

V odd

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stimpy | 4 February 2009 - 11:27am

Just had a message at the top of the Spotify screen...

"Unable to sync playlists, slow connection"

So maybe, in some way, it periodically updates the playlist as I see it in Spotify with the master playlist on their central system?

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stimpy | 4 February 2009 - 11:36am

"Have you tried turning it off and on again?"

My bro was having similar problems but the old "manual reboot" fixed them.

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Andrew Harrison | 4 February 2009 - 11:43am

how can I send spotify playlists to mates?

the question's in the title really. new to spotify (discovered it via this website on sunday) have been addicted ever since.

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vorgongod | 24 February 2009 - 7:31am

Right click

on the playlist and copy and paste into an email.

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ChaosandMorphine | 26 February 2009 - 3:11pm

A friend asked me to ask

Can you burn it? Do the streaming to mp3 programmes work? Not that I'm interested, mind.

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Retropath2 | 4 February 2009 - 11:21am

'Fraid not - that's the drawback.

However they are working on a "mobile solution" (trans: Spotify on your phone - the Spotiphone?) and once that happens it's hello to the "celestial jukebox" (trans: all music ever, anywhere you want to hear it... except the Beatles, Led Zep and Oasis of course).

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Andrew Harrison | 4 February 2009 - 11:24am

If you have a "What you hear" recording function

on your soundcard (most Creative cards do), then you can use Audacity or a simple audio-editing app to make mp3s, CDs or whatever. Just make a playlist, hit record and let it run.

Er...or so a friend told me.

I'm still only getting one ad every two or three days, by the way, despite extensive use. Am I lucky or will it get more intrusive as the service gets more popular and attracts more advertisers?

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Archie Valparaiso | 4 February 2009 - 11:34am

Just hold a tape recorder near your speakers

like you used to do with the charts on Radio One back in the day when that sort of thing was worth filling up a C90 with.

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Niks | 4 February 2009 - 11:36am

*Anti-Piracy Snatch Squad swoops*

*Valparaiso languishes in Gitmo til 2019*

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Andrew Harrison | 4 February 2009 - 11:40am

No, I live in a proper country

In Spain you're allowed to keep a copy of anything you like for personal, non-profit use.

Pretty civilised, eh? (They're still working on the hurling goats off bell towers business.)

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Archie Valparaiso | 4 February 2009 - 11:51am

well be thankful that

at least they're not, um, tossing them off bell towers

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ivan | 4 February 2009 - 12:08pm

Ads

I get one every hour or half hour, but they're short and only appear in-between songs.

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Gatz | 4 February 2009 - 11:46am

What?

Goats?

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David Hepworth | 4 February 2009 - 11:57am

Just tried here...

For a Mac, Wire Tap Pro does the job perfectly

It's the 21st Century equivalent of the old mic in front of the radio speaker though as, if you get a mail whilst recording, you get to hear the incoming mail bleep on the finished recording :-)

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stimpy | 4 February 2009 - 11:47am

I have 3

cassette decks (see thread passim) one of which is a Dolby S machine but, I really don't mind a bit of tape hiss. It sounds like... Victory to me!

any copies made are only for evaluation in-car to see if it's proper driving music... Ahem!

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James Blast | 4 February 2009 - 7:35pm

In December I gave away a Nakamichi Dragon...

...because no-one was willing to pay money for it :-(

It just needed a new drive belt and it'd have been be as good as new

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stimpy | 4 February 2009 - 8:31pm

Audio Hijack Pro

only $32 works a treat

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dickdotcom | 6 February 2009 - 2:37pm

I've been using

iRecordMusic. I've not had any unwanted beeps with that.

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Trrroglodyte | 9 February 2009 - 5:26am

Hey, how do you use

Hey, how do you use irecordmusic to record Spotify. I've got it but thought I could only record streaming audio off webpages with it?

Thanks!
Gustaf

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gnilsson | 15 May 2009 - 2:45pm

Just Tried Here...

On Windows XP, All2WAV Recorder will record anything coming out of your sound card, and it's free. Lots of different programs will convert WAVs to MP3s.
Regarding your Apple incoming mail bleep problem, surely there's a way to turn the bleep off in the mail program?

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Mike_H | 14 February 2009 - 9:26pm

Yes.

Indeed there is.

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ChaosandMorphine | 15 February 2009 - 10:39pm

Wire Tap Pro

Just set the source as "Spotify" instead of Mac Audio and then you will only get what's output from Spotify - its the two "bars' under under the record / stop / pause controls.

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chrisf | 27 February 2009 - 5:09am

OOOOOO!!!

I didn't know it did THAT! Thanks

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stimpy | 27 February 2009 - 11:34am

Friday afternoon playlist listening party?

Here's japes, why don't we all start listening to the Infinite Playlist at the same time on Friday afternoon and share a communal listening experience whilst we post our reactions?

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stimpy | 4 February 2009 - 11:25am

i'm adding...

..furiously to the infinite playlist, is there going to be a self imposed limit each person is allowed to add?

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Niks | 4 February 2009 - 11:35am

I agree...

...it would be helpful to know just how many tracks per artist/album are permissible. I've recently added three songs from The Beat Scene - is that too many? Is it okay to add tracks from an artist's individual albums but not those same multiple tracks from their 'Best of'?

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Paolo Meccano | 6 February 2009 - 10:50am

Three tracks sounds fine

But there's no hard & fast rules - just use common sense. If you were doing a various artists mixtape for a friend, you wouldn't add 30 tracks from one artist.

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Fraser Lewry | 6 February 2009 - 10:57am

It could be a regional variations thing...

but when i click on the 'here' link that AH kindly posted, I need to furnish an 'invitation code', which I don't have. Alternatively, I can submit my email address to be put on a list.

Am I correct that those of you browsing in the UK aren't having any such problems and are going straight to the downloading of the app?

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ivan | 4 February 2009 - 11:35am

It works fine in the UK.

I just tried a new account with a clean UK email address and it set up the account fine.

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Andrew Harrison | 4 February 2009 - 11:44am

sorry andrew

i shoulda said that i'm *not* in the UK, hence the difficulty. I suspect it's sniffing out my IP address and, er, the computer says no*

I'm in Ireland. IP address fakery, y'say...

*fires up google*

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ivan | 4 February 2009 - 11:47am

Where are you?

So far the free version is s only up and running in Sweden, Norway, Finland, the UK, France and - yippee! - Spain.

However, faking your IP address to feign a UK location using a proxy doodah may work. (It doesn't work for the BBC's iPlayer, though...or so I've been told.)

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Archie Valparaiso | 4 February 2009 - 11:46am

Yep...

... it's "not yet available" in Ireland.

You can sign up for an e-mail alert when they have the copyright rules sorted.

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Nicodemus | 4 February 2009 - 1:14pm

not strictly true on the iplayer front....

There's a paid proxy service "My Private Network" (www.my-private-network.co.uk) which creates a VPN connection to their UK servers and works a treat on iPlayer - I'm using right now with iPlayer Grabber on my Mac to download the Folk America program......

It costs GBP5.00 a month but I think its worth it - especially as the BBC Entertainment on my local cable channel costs twice that, has half the programs and is six months behind.....

Also works fine with Spotify - just set up my account from here in Sunny Singapore (we are a nice 30degC compared with your snow and ice.......)

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chrisf | 4 February 2009 - 1:36pm

iPlayer Grabber

is only for Tiger users, not that I wanted it...

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James Blast | 4 February 2009 - 7:42pm
chrisf | 5 February 2009 - 11:54am

thanking you

.

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James Blast | 5 February 2009 - 4:47pm

The first name I saw under "Acts you might like"...

...was Living Colour. Funny that, since they're famous for being the act that nobody liked.

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David Hepworth | 4 February 2009 - 11:46am

Ooo nooo....

I heart Living Colour.

(the exception proving the rule I guess)

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stimpy | 4 February 2009 - 11:48am

While listening to the podcast this morning

I was thinking that Spotify might be a good home for the results of the randomizer... and there could also be a playlist featuring a track from all the Word cover stars to date...

I shall attempt to make a mark on the playlist when I get home.

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itf | 4 February 2009 - 12:09pm

Ooo posting multiple tracks from the same album

has started...

How long before someone adds an entire album, in track order, to the playlist?

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stimpy | 4 February 2009 - 12:16pm

Hopefully never

For me that ruined the one Popjustice started. Someone had added two Erasure albums, in full - and not even the old ones with tunes, the recent ones.

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itf | 4 February 2009 - 12:25pm

See new arbitrary rules

as introduced above.

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Andrew Harrison | 4 February 2009 - 12:26pm

Tech question

If you rearrange by artist or title, how can you get back to the Totally Official running order? The back button doesn't really work if you've shut down your browser or had a power cut as I just did. And it remembers your last settings, so it seems your stuck with them. All that seems to work is removing it from my Playlists sidebar and then clicking on the Web link up there to open a new version, but that's a bit fiddly.

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Archie Valparaiso | 4 February 2009 - 12:33pm

ah liberal copyright laws

but dodgy power supplies...

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Chris G | 4 February 2009 - 12:38pm

Er... I dunno.

It's "a bit technical".

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Andrew Harrison | 4 February 2009 - 12:43pm

it's simple

Just click on the title bar next to 'title' and it'll go back to the original order

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pirate85 | 4 February 2009 - 9:55pm

How do I "save" the playlist

How do I "save" the playlist so that I can find it again without having to click on the link from this thread everytime - any ideas?

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Andy Lynes | 4 February 2009 - 12:35pm

as always some of us will be dickesian cherubs at the

iced up window peering at the wonders displayed within our work pc's blocked for new applications by the horrible mill owners who want us to sweep up cotton from under dangerous flying looms instead of listening to the Mill town brothers b sides all day , sorry that should be draw up 6 month roject plans and sort out new supply invoices....

Also aren't the requests to record stuff mentioned above missing the point of streaming service the idea being you just stream stuff all the time. lastly should I mention I only joined last FM last week I can see this being like the Dragon 32 incident all over again.

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Chris G | 4 February 2009 - 12:37pm

On recording

Those of us on the move without iPhones might want to be able to listen to stuff we don't physically own...er, yet.

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Archie Valparaiso | 4 February 2009 - 12:44pm

What happens when the Internet connection dies...

...or I'm out of the house with an iPod?

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stimpy | 4 February 2009 - 12:47pm

I just thought it was strange

the moment someone trys to give people access (most of the time) to unlimted tracks people immediately try to nick them and build up collections of mp3's they probably never listen to more than twice.

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Chris G | 4 February 2009 - 1:56pm

you could listen to music you paid for

start with the Fleet Foxes - £3 from Amazon.

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badartdog | 5 February 2009 - 9:35am

Pah!

I think I've made my opinion of Fleet Foxes more than clear on more than one occasion :-)

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stimpy | 5 February 2009 - 10:50am

Darn, I must try this

Blocked by firewall at work, but will give it a try at home.

Would this be likely to become available as an ipod touch/iphone app, I wonder. Last.fm is dead good and that Wolfgang's Vault that was mentioned in another thread recently has just made it onto my Touch, but am I being cynical to think that Apple wouldn't want to be giving too much encouragement to "the new iTunes"?

Now tell me it's already available...

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Steve Riddle | 4 February 2009 - 12:56pm

Excellent!!!

Thanks for the invite!

I typed "Pink Floyd" in the search engine and all I got was covers and tributes. Am I doing something wrong or are there no Pink Floyd tracks on Spotify?

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bigsteviecook | 4 February 2009 - 1:06pm

Nope...

A lot of big names aren't on there yet - Floyd, Zeppelin, Beatles. I suspect they're striking individual licensing deals.

Remember how long it took the Beatles to sign up to iTunes!

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stimpy | 4 February 2009 - 1:44pm

The Beatles still not on the

The Beatles still not on the iTunes store.

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Alex Rowe | 5 February 2009 - 9:03pm

No...

but a deal is pending

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stimpy | 5 February 2009 - 10:18pm

Anyone who

streams music around the house via a wireless network should get Airfoil. You can then stream Spotify in the same way as iTunes. I'm listening to the Word infinite playlist now in the kitchen!
Cooking doesn't get much funkier than this!!

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ChaosandMorphine | 4 February 2009 - 1:07pm

What??

I long for the day's of vinyl, record players and 45 minute albums. i knew where i was then. This is all way beyond my shrinking 39 year old brain.

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FreakGene | 4 February 2009 - 1:24pm

Not available in the US

So no idea what everyone's going on about. Can you get fries with it?

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Martin | 4 February 2009 - 2:32pm

Sadly not.

You can't even get the Regular Fries - yet.

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Andrew Harrison | 4 February 2009 - 2:50pm

But you can. . .

get a Big Mac from Macarere, cooked up 60-odd years ago by Mattie Mae Thomas.

God, I love this gadget.

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Archie Valparaiso | 4 February 2009 - 3:05pm

I've just been listening to the Word's Infinite Playlist...

..and all I can say is, what good taste we've all got.

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Handsome.P.Wonderful | 4 February 2009 - 5:43pm

Same here...

...I'm surprised by some of the stuff that's cropping up!

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stimpy | 4 February 2009 - 6:19pm

I'm...

also listening and loving it!! Is it just me or does the Was (Not Was) track 'Crazy Water' sound very like 634-5789 (Soulsville, U.S.A.) by Wilson Pickett?

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humphreym | 4 February 2009 - 5:58pm

You're all to blame...

I have selected 75 tracks to 'queue' (ie listen to), many of them from unknown (to me) artists.
It's fantastic, I'm finding all sorts of new treasures.
I am selecting the queue by taking note of previous mentions from within the Word community, and the entirely senseless reason of whether the group/artist has an 'interesting name'.
Rock a Doodle Do!

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SirTerence | 4 February 2009 - 6:25pm

Invitation code?

The link asks for an invitation code ... how do I get that?

Just when I'd got used to Blip.fm, someone comes up with another one.

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busker_du | 4 February 2009 - 6:26pm

Look

up

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ChaosandMorphine | 4 February 2009 - 6:51pm

Busker - see in Andrew Harrison's opening post up there

where it states:

WORD readers can start using Spotify by clicking here. Once you've joined, you can listen to a couple of playlists we've already made and contribute to them too.

Click on the link up there, and you'll almost be there.

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SirTerence | 4 February 2009 - 7:12pm

Thanks Sir T and Chas&Morph

I have provided my e-mail address, but been waitlisted. Can someone playlist some Art Brut while I warm up?

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busker_du | 4 February 2009 - 8:28pm

That's brilliant!

Thanks.

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David Ellcock | 4 February 2009 - 7:41pm

the genre that dare not mention its name

I suppose some 'Goth' is out?

shame, there's some damn fine stuff to be had... slopes off in black mood to read HP Lovecraft

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James Blast | 4 February 2009 - 7:49pm

I don't know.

If we can have Rachel Stevens on there, maybe you should add some Goth for balance.

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itf | 4 February 2009 - 7:50pm

Blood Money

a particular fave b-side of The Sisters has been inserted and do behave and be grateful, I didn't give you the (full version) of Never Land which clocks in seconds short of 12 minutes

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James Blast | 15 February 2009 - 2:23am

OH NO.....!!!!

My wife was just about recognising me. Now I will have to disappear again and listen to MORE music.

Tsk.

Ha! Supper's Ready on already. Not me. Can you guess my contribution?

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Beany | 4 February 2009 - 7:50pm

Who put Simple Minds on there?

anyone willing to own up?

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Simon Ford | 4 February 2009 - 8:17pm

I didn't...

...but I would have. Two of the three tracks of theirs that are currently there (Glittering Prize and Themes for Great Cities) are excellent. No so keen on Celebrate..

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David Ellcock | 4 February 2009 - 8:27pm

There's far worse

than Simple Minds up there, behave!

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James Blast | 4 February 2009 - 10:52pm

Who put

the bloody Wurzels on, doing an Oasis song?

Sorry!

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Beany | 4 February 2009 - 10:53pm

Ahem

I confess to Glittering prize, it's a fair cop Guv.

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Andy Mackenzie | 4 February 2009 - 8:37pm

I would bet

That few other magazines readerships would come up with a playlist as varied (and as good) as this one.

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Andy Mackenzie | 4 February 2009 - 8:39pm

Getting it back to playlist order

If you want to get it back to playlist order, just click "artist" twice and it sorts by artist, then back into the playlist order.

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itf | 4 February 2009 - 8:47pm

Ta

I should have guessed it'd be simple. It really is rather good, isn't it?

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Archie Valparaiso | 4 February 2009 - 9:05pm

No Stackridge

Cancel my subscription and give me my money back.

Oh, £0.00. I take cheques.

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Beany | 4 February 2009 - 9:20pm

I'm 'guilty'

of adding Todd Rundgren to the list

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SirTerence | 4 February 2009 - 9:31pm

May I applaud you

Sir!

adds some more

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James Blast | 4 February 2009 - 10:54pm

I'm new....

Loving the playlist, but how do you add tracks - only got Spotify today so still learning how to use it...
Any help?

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pirate85 | 4 February 2009 - 9:57pm

Drag 'em

Just drag them to the playlist.

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itf | 4 February 2009 - 10:01pm

When it appears

you will know that the Yoko Ono track is my gift to you. But you can rest assured there will be only the one.

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Steven C | 4 February 2009 - 10:54pm

887

Tracks and rising....

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ChaosandMorphine | 4 February 2009 - 11:52pm

Thanks

I've had a fantastic evening listening to the massives choices and adding a few myself. What a great service and first class taste demonstrated by the massive.

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lemagician | 4 February 2009 - 11:59pm

any idea how depressing this thread is

if you live in a country excluded such as Oz.

i wanna be in your gang

gotta be the convict thing again

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Tony Hunter | 5 February 2009 - 12:33am

Quality Quotient

'Erm The Fleetwood Mac Terrorist Brigade have struck again............

Must they always use fear as their only weapon?

Apart from that, a most excellente playlist so far- keep the quality quotient high.

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Stuart Graham | 5 February 2009 - 6:11am

Be frightened, be very frightened

The missus says I can use the computer tonight, so await arcane country rock, odd folk rock and covers aplenty. I bet you can't wait. It's, amongst others, a Phil Pickett alert, pop pickers! (Don't worry, it's got RT on it as well)

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Retropath2 | 5 February 2009 - 8:14am

Sigh. Now the silliness starts

Whoever thinks we all want to hear 20-odd tracks by Macca followed by 60-odd by The Who, one after the other, is actually quite mistaken.

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Archie Valparaiso | 5 February 2009 - 9:36am

Seconded.

And they haven't even included the Frog Chorus! What kind of Macca fan are they?

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Handsome.P.Wonderful | 5 February 2009 - 9:40am

Apologise

whilst in my cups I may have deleted somebody's jake thackary but didn't know the right one to replace it with. sorry

I can safely say I see what the fuss is all about. As for the ads they all seem to be for Government campaigns or quango's so it's like the BBC really, they'll be scary ads fro still water and mixing cross ply with radial tyres next.

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Chris G | 5 February 2009 - 9:42am

That was my Jake

But I accidentally added all 3CD's worth. That's quite easy to do but that's my only (very minor) gripe. What a marvellous thing it is.

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Graham Johns | 5 February 2009 - 4:50pm

Can the...

playlist police remove them?!

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humphreym | 5 February 2009 - 9:42am

You can remove them yourself

It's collaborative so we can just delete things ourselves! (And in case the Word is wondering considering my tweets yesterday, it wasn't me although I will cop to Tom Lehrer...)

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itf | 5 February 2009 - 9:51am

The Word Police

Don't think you can delete them yourself- although Oi tink The Word Police have- good show

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Stuart Graham | 5 February 2009 - 9:52am

Just saw...

that! Macca and The Who are gone, as are The Specials. They only lasted about a minute!

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humphreym | 5 February 2009 - 9:54am

We're all for The Specials

but the whole first album, in order, rather defeats the object of the playlist.

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Andrew Harrison | 5 February 2009 - 10:16am

Couldn't agree...

more! I'm enjoying the random nature of the list, and the fact that I'm discovering so much good stuff!

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humphreym | 5 February 2009 - 10:27am

Did you know...

If you 'right click' on a track, you can start a queue, (a playlist within a playlist) and so can leave out any unwanted choices.
If you right click and hold 'control' at the same time, you can compile a multiple queue at one go, so you can, in other words, form a secondary playlist of, say, fifty songs, in about fifty seconds.

By the way, the multiple Who and McCartney tracks have ermmm 'gone'.

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SirTerence | 5 February 2009 - 9:55am
Handsome.P.Wonderful | 5 February 2009 - 9:56am

Can anyone tell me what happens if...

...you set your preferences to "enable scrobbling to Last.FM"?

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Handsome.P.Wonderful | 5 February 2009 - 10:38am

I have suspicison

that in social networking terms you have entered a a paradox loop were your facebook swallows your twitter profile while you flickr albums show pictures of your last fm playlist and all the while smart alecs on teh word blog make pithy comments about your demise whilst using obscure Richard thompson based puns the whole thing being misunderstood and ranted about on the guardians comment is free but not very liberal pages.

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Chris G | 5 February 2009 - 10:44am

Fraser is trying to get the WORD list

to scrobble at Last.fm. The effects could be anything from absolutely nothing to the immediate extinction of reality itself. Let's wait and see.

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Andrew Harrison | 5 February 2009 - 10:59am

Having discovered Spotify

and how easy it is to use, I'm not sure why I would want to go over to Last.FM. I always found Last.FM a bit cumbersome and definitely not intuitive.

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Handsome.P.Wonderful | 5 February 2009 - 11:18am

Seems to use a lorra bandwidth though...

...we have Internet speed issues here today and Spotify was the first thing to stop working.

Back to the iTunes jukebox for the time being

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stimpy | 5 February 2009 - 11:23am

Seems to use a lorra bandwidth though...

...we have Internet speed issues here today and Spotify was the first thing to stop working.

Back to the iTunes jukebox for the time being

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stimpy | 5 February 2009 - 11:23am

Last FM

Hear hear, Mr Wonderful. I deleted it after a while, finding it more pain than paradise.

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Retropath2 | 5 February 2009 - 11:34am

Fire.fm

The Fire.fm add on for firefox makes Last.fm much more manageable, I don't like Last.fm as a wesite, but the idea is fine enough. There was an article on the BBC technology blog a couple of days ago about pros and cons of Spotify/Last.fm - Verdict was that it depends if you know what you want (spotify), or want random choices based on previous choices (last.fm).

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StartPoint | 13 February 2009 - 5:09pm

Now that would be rather fine

it might result in being able to listen to the WORD list via the Last fm app on the ipod/phone. Or it might not, hell I dunno.

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Steve Riddle | 5 February 2009 - 12:50pm

you need to be careful

I think doing that you might find the internet leaking out of your phone and down you shirt!

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Chris G | 5 February 2009 - 2:02pm

I think...

that the songs you've played on Spotify will show up on your LastFM profile page, but I could be wrong!

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humphreym | 5 February 2009 - 10:42am

last fm - that's right

yes, that's exactly what happens, and they are listed as 'Listening now using Spotify'. I'm sure this will disrupt my lastfm lists when I re-synch my iPod as it always seems to be confused by parallel listening where I have both listened to my ipod and played tunes on iTunes over a week and re-synch.

Spotify does seem pretty good - David Axelrod is one of many I always meant to check out and now I can.

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elhombremalo | 5 February 2009 - 8:20pm

Last FM

will only get confused if you play something in iTunes before you update what you've played from your iSpod; any other services, such as Spotify or Last FM's radio will just slot in to your list of played songs in the correct order.

It's down to the fact that iSproggler checks the time and date of the "last played" item in iTunes and will only upload things from your iPod after that time; thus, if you play a song in iTunes before you update iSproggler, you've lost those tracks from your iPod forever.

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Fraser M | 6 February 2009 - 9:17am

Much better than rubbish old iTunes

Spotify is great, maybe good enough to convert me away from Last.fm.

Was never a fan of iTunes, partly because of the DRM and UK vs US price differences, and because it always makes my old PC run slowly, but mainly because I've just never really liked downloads. Streaming music to see if you like it, then buying the CD (or vinyl) seems much more preferable.

Article about streaming music replacing downloads from the Guardian here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/jan/22/digitalmusic-drm

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applesauce | 6 February 2009 - 9:09am

Sounds like you're confusing iTunes

with the iTunes Music Store. I don't think I ever bought anything from iTMS but use iTunes constantly as a jukebox.

Spotify is great for listening when you have a reliable Internet connection but useless when you're away from home.

They need to crack the bandwidth hogging as well - there are times when Spotify slows right down but (say) Youtube still works fine

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stimpy | 6 February 2009 - 10:39am

Rarely used iTMS, but didn't

like iTunes as a jukebox either, prefer Winamp and its various plugins (especially MusicIP Mix), great for ripping and burning too.

Then again, I don't have an iPod or iPhone - if I did there's a good chance I'd persevere with iTunes.

Agree broadband access and speeds aren't up to the task yet, but worry not, I believe that's on Gordon Brown's to-do list...

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applesauce | 6 February 2009 - 12:49pm

Gordon Brown is going to rewrite Spotify?

Is there no end to his talents? :-)

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stimpy | 6 February 2009 - 1:34pm

Couldn't agree more.

I've downloaded a total of two albums from itunes and one film clip. The bit rate for audio on a film clip is atrocious and the two albums I d/loaded I now own on cd. I just hate not having a hard copy with no compression. Spotify to me sounds like music utopia. Check it out then buy if you like. Unfortunately I'm stuck impatiently waiting for a code in my inbox so I can get onboard.

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Trrroglodyte | 10 February 2009 - 8:51am

Why invites?

Everyone I know has just gone straight in and created an account, why do some people not get allowed on?

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stimpy | 10 February 2009 - 1:42pm

Have you tried

the link in the main post? It's half way down (the word 'Here' - in red)
I may be wrong, as I already had it, but I think most Wordies got up and running using that one.

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ChaosandMorphine | 10 February 2009 - 1:53pm

That's the one...

Seems to work everytime. Straight in, no messing

https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/

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stimpy | 10 February 2009 - 1:59pm

How does it affect the Downloads ?

Would be interesting to see how this affects the downloads section - are we all going to stop downloading stuff based on the discussions / recommendations here and just listen to it on spotify?

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chrisf | 6 February 2009 - 9:31am

Another Last fm query

I've asked this question on another message board without satisfactory answer...how does spotify (which I've signed up to) differ from the last.fm radio/playlist functions? (It is also possible to compile communal playlists on last.fm). I didn't find spotify any easier than last to use (I'm no technophile but I don't find anything complex or difficult about last fm). Also, having a conscience, I'm also wary of whether artists are getting paid anything for being on spotify - didn't they have to remove 10000 tracks recently which they'd ripped from illegal fire shares?

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The Amorous Hum... | 6 February 2009 - 4:04pm

something's...

gone a bit 'Pete' with the Word playlist, there's two of everything

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James Blast | 6 February 2009 - 5:08pm

Technical Glitch

I can't add to the playlist. :-(

I can create new playlists.

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GunsOfBrixton | 6 February 2009 - 8:23pm

Can't add to the Word playlist

Neither can I, maybe it doesn't work with Macs? But then I see there's a lot of repeat entries on there, where's the benefit in that?

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Philip Marshall | 10 February 2009 - 2:23pm

The infinite playlist has been 'sealed'

If a playlist is green you can add to it.
There is no issue that I'm aware of concerning Macs. Mine works fine.

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ChaosandMorphine | 10 February 2009 - 2:35pm

Yup...

Same here. Spotify:Mac works fineity fine

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stimpy | 10 February 2009 - 2:41pm

Green playlist???

Green playlist? Mine appears in shades of grey!

I've tried dragging actual mp3 files from the desktop and from the iTunes window but nothing. What I can do is copy from the Word Infinite Playlist to a new playlist...

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Philip Marshall | 10 February 2009 - 2:52pm

You can only work within Spotify

Search for the music you want and then drag the song(s) into the playlist of your choice.
The greyed out playlists are closed. Try this
http://open.spotify.com/user/hubejr/playlist/0FYyMgW2uHkpo9wHMdSCza

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ChaosandMorphine | 10 February 2009 - 2:56pm

Green is go!

Thanks! I see the playlist you sent (The Chain) is green, my own newly created playlist is white but I can search through Spotify and place tracks on both of these playlists. The Word Infinite remains closed to me though.

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Philip Marshall | 10 February 2009 - 3:07pm

That one has been 'Closed' by The Word

so no-one can now add to it.
If you look under 'Recently Updated' area to the right of this post, you will see a link to 'Spotify Playlists - if you build it they will come' click this and most of the playlists which have been posted by Wordies are there. These are still 'Open' and you can add to them.

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ChaosandMorphine | 10 February 2009 - 3:13pm

You can't add tracks to the infinite playlist

It's now closed

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stimpy | 10 February 2009 - 3:21pm

Zapped!

nevermind yer Beatles and Foyds, there's no Frank Zappa - cover versions and Dweezil stuff but no Inca Roads, Excentrifugal Forz or Penguin in Bondage - what is this world coming to?

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James Blast | 6 February 2009 - 10:50pm

'Endless Art' by A House

Who was the genius that added ‘Endless Art’ by A House? I was busy hunting for that very track last week but couldn’t remember the exact title so held out little hope of ever finding it. I only had an old listening cassette from the record company about 20 years ago, wasn’t even sure it was ever released. My, you’re a discerning lot aren’t ya? Made my day anyway.

I’ve got the Infinite Playlist on shuffle and finding new gems already…

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kbhr | 9 February 2009 - 6:36pm

Can't add

Strange. I can't add to this! I want to join in and it won't let me. I just get the ne-entry symbol when dragging.

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Stringy | 12 February 2009 - 1:18pm

Have a look further up the blog

the playlist is now locked.

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David Ellcock | 12 February 2009 - 2:14pm

no add free version available

in Ireland :-(

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Gramsci | 14 February 2009 - 4:48pm

Looks Great, Sounds Terrible...

I have yet to find a single track in any list that plays all the way through without stopping. A couple stopped so many times they became unlistenable. Obviously the data isn't arriving as fast as the player wants to play it. I usually get good download speeds for other content and I can't find anything to overcome this in the rather skimpy help files. Ho hum.

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Mike_H | 14 February 2009 - 9:42pm

Problem Solved

I had two versions running at once, somehow. Killed one and now it's sounding great.

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Mike_H | 14 February 2009 - 10:18pm

I don't feel like stealing

the sounds from Spotify™, it has been too much of a joy and has filled in so many blank holes in my listening. I have in fact ordered two albums that I have previewed online for a week: The Groundhogs~Solid and The Teardrop Explodes~Peel sessions

howzaboutthatthen?

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James Blast | 15 February 2009 - 2:28am

It seems to be going mainstream this weekend...

...seen big articles in The Guardian and The Sunday Times enthusing about Spotify

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stimpy | 15 February 2009 - 6:07pm

also in the ...

Observer Music Monthly magazine today.

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Lard | 15 February 2009 - 6:16pm

Anyone know if Sonos will provide a Spotify service?

They did this for Last FM. Accessing Spotify playlists via Sonos and then streaming throughout the home would be my idea of heaven.

Just a thought.....

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russellh | 18 February 2009 - 4:51pm

I must be wrong, but...

I can't actually contribute to the playlist! Everyone else seems to be deleting and adding to their hearts content, but I seem to be unable to do so. Help! Please?

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dagreeno | 20 February 2009 - 11:29pm

The original list...

Is now locked but another one started yesterday at http://open.spotify.com/user/thewordmagazine/playlist/62v5Wsa8vO6MvlDPjJ...

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Andy Mackenzie | 21 February 2009 - 12:30pm

Brilliant...

Cheers Andy!

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dagreeno | 22 February 2009 - 11:39am

Junior Spotify

Here's a list of songs for little chiddlers. I've put a few in my little one seems to like. I'd love to hear some more - I need a way to keep him amused while I change his nappy...

http://open.spotify.com/user/niks/playlist/5rnIYWCJBVqiabntVik2WL

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Niks | 26 February 2009 - 1:59pm

Junior Spotify

Added a few that my 5 year old enjoyed during The Nappy Years.

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Ahh_Bisto | 26 February 2009 - 3:09pm

How about a country playlist?

I've started it off, add away Spotifiers...

http://open.spotify.com/user/niks/playlist/6UUfgqWgt0f8aRUYwRDf3R

No need to be too proscriptive - country, alt.country, bluegrass, cow punk, Americana, old time string band, honky tonk, whatever, so long as it is lonesome, rootin' and tootin'.

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Niks | 4 March 2009 - 9:36am

Merled up

"I'm A Lonesome Fugitive" (feat. James Burton) duly added.

Plus some vintage Billy Sherrill (George & Tammy), Elvis (feat. James Burton - starting to notice a pattern here?), some Louvin Brothers to bring us back down to earth, and gotta have some Loretta....

Good idea, Niks. Will keep adding as things occur to me.

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Archie Valparaiso | 4 March 2009 - 10:06am

Alas

Spotify hasn't come round to the joys of Old Crow Medicine Show, Chatham County Line, The Steeldrivers, The Avett Brothers, Eillen Jewell or Malcolm Holcombe yet so I couldn't add them. Tsk tsk. There's also some big holes in the back catalogues of Gillian Welch, The Be Good Tanyas and Drive By Truckers. Perhaps Spotify isn't the best place to discover contemporary country music...

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Niks | 4 March 2009 - 11:53am

Or yet much of the mysterious musical pleasures

afflicting many of us. It's like an OK branch of Virgin records 10 years ago in terms of availability, especially in the catacombs of country, folk and world.

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Retropath2 | 4 March 2009 - 12:46pm

Give it time

A service like this has to sign a deal every record label it 'stocks', and it's doing that at a faster rate than any other service I can think of, iTunes included.

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Fraser Lewry | 4 March 2009 - 12:51pm

The further back you go...

it better it gets, espcially with country. I doubt Virgin 10 years ago had even 41 classic country albums, let alone 41 albums just by Merle Haggard in the racks. That's what's on Spotify now. It's a Merlathon!

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Archie Valparaiso | 4 March 2009 - 1:14pm

Does it show 41....

...Merle Haggard albums for you Archie?

I typed in Merle Haggard and I only get 5 albums showing???

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bigsteviecook | 4 March 2009 - 1:53pm

Search Merle Haggard...

Then click on his name in the middle row list of artists next to the songs or on the top left list of artists - hey presto a page brimming with Haggard treasures. I'm not sure how many there are but it seem like a lot and could well be 41.

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Niks | 4 March 2009 - 2:02pm

Trust me

I do post industrial quantities of bollocks here but it's usually well-researched bollocks.

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Archie Valparaiso | 4 March 2009 - 2:50pm

Thanks Folks!

A veritable MerleFest. Yes, I know it's a different Merle.

I wanted to add a favourite of mine..."If I Could Only Fly" but the only one there is a duet with Willie Nelson which is mostly Willie. I added it anyway.

If I remember correctly it was written by a little known artist called Blaze Foley. Blaze is the subject in Lucinda Williams "Drunken Angel" which I also added.

Now to search for some more favourites(now that I know how to search properly!).

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bigsteviecook | 4 March 2009 - 3:25pm

Business Model

Can anyone explain the business model behind Spotify? Do they have to pay royalties every time a song is played? If so, will the meagre advertising cover this? I've played it pretty much constantly since seeing it mentioned on here and I have to say that so far I've not felt the urge to go straight to Amazon and order a CD. I suspect I'm not alone...

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DougieJ | 8 March 2009 - 8:48pm

Business Model - part explanation

I've since found this: http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/spotify-ceo-talks-up-plans-for-us... where Spotify's CEO sheds some light on the question:

"Many (including us) have been confused how Spotify's business model actually works. We asked Ek whether it pays for music on a flat-rate system or per-song. As we expected, he was cagey. "In basic terms, Spotify aggregates content from right holders, distributes it to consumers through our technical platform and monetises both through a free, ad-funded service, and a subscription service," explains Ek."

So far I've not felt the need to either order a CD of an artist I've listened to on Spotify or upgrade to the premium service, as the ads are so unobtrusive as to be not worth bothering about. Can this go on?

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DougieJ | 8 March 2009 - 9:25pm

My prediction...

...is as Spotify becomes more popular and moves out of beta, the advertising will become more intrusive - maybe one after each song, or longer ad breaks every 20 minutes - in an attempt to presuade people to move to the paid service.

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stimpy | 9 March 2009 - 8:28am

Exactly

I wouldn't be surprised if they're treating the beta stage as a loss leader, waiting until they've secured a target number of free subscribers before whammying us with the ads. By then most of us will have been won over and consider that the subscription price is worth it.

Millions of paying subscribers is the only business model that makes any medium-to-long-term sense.

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Archie Valparaiso | 9 March 2009 - 8:43am

Another prediction

Taken over by Microsoft, Google or British Government.

Merged with The Word. Neil Young pictured visiting Spotify office, Girls Aloud pictured eating Fraser's giant pie in Word office.

Daily Word podcast on constant rotation.

More ads for Saga holidays.

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Beany | 9 March 2009 - 9:38am

Are you allowed to use the phrase...

"Girls Aloud eating Fraser's giant pie" in a family forum? Sounds a little dubious to me.

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stimpy | 9 March 2009 - 10:29am

This just in

from Twitter, from a certain chief cook and bottle washer...

"Have just made a mammoth pork pie for the office. It's bigger than my head."

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Beany | 9 March 2009 - 10:39am

Something like this...

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Fraser Lewry | 9 March 2009 - 11:51am
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