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When Danny Baker was in the second year of secondary school, a boy of african origin joined the class. A tough looking young 'un, he was soon being attacked every break time, but no matter how many south londoners piled in, John Abanuge - that was his name - could never be overpowered. Like Jaws (Richard Kiel, not Brer Shark) rising up from beneath the rubble, John Abanuge culd not be properly felled. Then, at the start of a new term, he didn't turn up for school. A couple of weeks later, the headline in the South London Press was '25 year old man went to secondary school'. No wonder the 12 year olds couldn't lamp him.
Many years after Man About The House, I met Sally Thomsett, and she infrmed me that when she made The Railway Children, her character was 11, and she was 20.
I'm wondering who else has similarly deceived the world....
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All of Glee?
Although it's a pretty rubbish deception. Some of them are about 30.
Shaz out of Ashes to Ashes played a sixth former
in St. Trinian's II - The Legend of Fritton's Gold.
She was twenty eight.
Ellen Page
was 18 when she did Hard Candy.
Grease
Olivia Newton John was 30
Stockard Channing a whopping 34.
Kernickie
was about 26. The actor, I read this morning, is in a coma from an overdose.
Stockard Channing a whopping 34
I'm sure it was just the tight shirts she wore that gave that impression.
Born at 40
Stockard Channing, like Anne Bancroft, was never a girl, she must have been a woman from the cradle. In a good way obviously.
I suspect most of the cast of Please Sir
were nearer 30 than 15.
Duffy
always looked about 35. He actually looked older than John Alderton.
compare
Duffy was 24 when it first started and Mr Hedges was 28. Frankie Abbot was 25.
Alan Ruck in Ferris Bueller's day off
was 30 at the time.
Dustin Hoffman was only 6 years younger than Mrs Robinson (Anne Bancroft).
In "Bend it Like Beckham",
the two main characters, played by Parminder Nagra and Keira Knightley, are supposed to be teengaers of about the same age. Parminder Nagra is ten years older than Keira Knightley.
While watching the film "Matchstick Men"
I kept my head down and said nothing. As soon as it was over I rushed to wiki to confirm that Alison Lohmann was about 23 when the film was made (she plays a 14 or 15 year old) and I had no need to shop myself to the paedo police after all....
Dawson's Creek
My old flatmate used to religiously watch Dawson's Creek on Sundays. The characters were supposed to be high-school students, but the bloke playing Dawson — in the later seasons — was easily about 25.
We had a bloke at school
who had a full beard in the first year (now Year 7) - long sideburns etc. He was bigger than the rest of us too, but a bit dim. Now I see my kids of that age, I suspect he was 14 and held down earlier in his education...
Poetic Justice
I was always very jealous of the 15-year-old boys in my year who could grow beards, but when you run into them now, twenty years later, they're all massively bald.
*strokes beard*
*sighs*
I was called
to the headmaster's office to explain why I had a beard at school at an early age. I shaved it off just to shut the miserable so-and-so up but it grew back within a week. He never bothered me again.
I still have it now. And a full head of hair in its original colour. It's not as thick as it was then but I suspect some of it has migrated elsewhere.
Do you mean
you have the original beard. Do you keep it in a box?
No, a bag
With the head it's attached to...
...Sorry, have just been watching Psychoville.
Six Feet Under
The actor who played Nate was only 11 years the junior of the actress who played his mother.
Jimmy Clitheroe
A British comic entertainer born in 1921 He never grew any taller than 4 feet 3 inches, and could easily pass for an 11-year-old boy, the character he played in The Clitheroe Kid, even when the series ended in 1972 .He never married, and lived quietly with his mother in Blackpool. He died from an overdose of sleeping pills on the day of her funeral, aged 51.
Don't suppose this counts as nobody was actually decieved.
In "the Summer of 69"
Bryan Adams was 10.
But...
Those were the best days of his life.
And the band member that got married was clearly older!
Apparently the "69" in the
Apparently the "69" in the song doesn't refer to the year, it refers to something he did with his girlfriend.
Similarly
...James Blunt may have sung
I will always be
In a club with you
In 1973
...despite not being born until 1974. Perhaps his mum was in the club?
Well I never knew that
His grandma's porch wasn't a euphemism as well, was it?
Hence the first line
"I had my first real sex dream / Got it at the five and dime"
Do you know
that is genuinely what I thought that line was, for ages.
American Vs British TV generally, really
Everyone on American TV seemed to own an extremely nice car by the time they were about 14, and everyone, even if they were supposed to be working class (like in 'Rosanne') owned a vast home.
Conversely, on 'Coronation Street', say right up until around the late 90s, it was worth bulding an entire storyline around the fact a character had bought a car, or went on the ferry to France for a weekend. I remember a storyline wherein Ken Barlow was about to lose his 2up 2down terrace because he couldn't afford the mortgage, despite the fact he was the headmaster of a school at the time. Jack and Vera won about 8000 quid on the lottery and decided they could afford to retire.
Says somethng about relative attitudes to class, I guess.
Yep in "Pretty in Pink"
Molly Ringwald id the "poor kid" because she only drives a mini to school.
Yet on the Wonder Years
Kevin Arnold's dad Jack is determined to keep the ancient family station wagon as long as he can, despite being tempted by a Ford Mustang convertible.
And conversely,
Wen you watch 70s UK shows like 'The Sweeney' and realize that the grizzled, boozy, pastry-complected old lags who starred in them were all about 28 at the time.
Likewise in all old British war films
And I think Clive Dunn was only about 30 when he did Dad's Army.
He was 48 when it started.
57 by the time it was cancelled.
Sorry Bob, I took the 'never let the facts...
...get in the way of a good story' route.
He was only 50
when he recorded "Grandad".
I thought Clive Dunn
had passed away, apparently not, 91 yrs of age...wow
There's only him,
Ian Lavender and Bill Pertwee (Hodges) still with us. Pertwee was living in Brighton until recently, and I once saw him glare at a young man who happened to be smoking. Sadly, he didn't say 'Put that cigarette out!'
Ian Lavender
I saw him in a pub in London about 2 years ago (The Clachan, just behind Liberty's) and as he left someone shouted, 'Don't tell him, Pike!' Lavender took it in very good spirit, and smiled and gave a thumbs up.
One day back in 1969
I was signing-on at Mill Hill dole office and in the queue with me was Frank Williams who played the vicar in Dad's Army.
Clearly we were both "between jobs" at the time.
He's still very much alive too, I believe.
There's something simultaneously charming and quite sad about this story, isn't there?
Chitty Chitty Bang Bang
Dick Van Dyke was actually a year older than Lionel Jeffries, who was playing his father.
If you really want to be shocked by people's ages though, dig out your old Panini sticker books from the 1970's and look at some of the Scottish players. They all looked about 50, despite being in their early 20's.
Scottish panini - so true...
...the lines, the long ears and noses...high percentage balding...
Scottish Panini
Haggis and Mars Bar between two slices of horizontally cut ciabatta bread and toasted in a press
So close
To be strictly authentic you should shun ciabatta in favour of two tattie scones.
Surely
it should be deep fried ?
Just about on topic...
The recent remake of "The Taking Of Pelham 1-2-3" was fairly lambasted for featuring young & sexy John Travolta & Denzel Washington in the roles originally played by grizzled old-timers Robert Shaw & Walter Matthau, whereas (and you're ahead of me here) the new boys were actually the same age or older when the films were made...
And I remember that during some strike of other, while Cliff Richard was in the charts, great play was made of the fact that "Peter Pan Of Pop" Cliff and apparently ancient NUR/RMT General Secretary at the time Jimmy Knapp were in fact born within a fortnight of each other...
All of Waterloo Road
Hollyoaks
And of course, the biggest offender in history, Please Sir!
Chesney Battersby in Coronation Street
is actually seventy two years old.
True dat.....
but he's now going by Chesney Brown. Not that I'm a frequent watcher, but I glimpsed him the other night saying 'Hello Mrs Fishwick, it's Chesney Brown'.
Chesney
He's always been Chesney Brown, hasn't he?
Going off on a tangent, Bruce Jones, who played Les Battersby, once did a personal appearance at a gay club frequented by my friend. They were selling t-shirts with the slogan 'I'm a Les B Fan'. Geddit?
'Hello Mrs Fishwick, it's Chesney Brown'
"How's your Bert's lumbago..?"
Also on Corrie
Isn't there only about 12 months in reality between Helen Worth who plays Gail and Sue Nicholls who plays Audrey, her mother?
In reality
eight years.
Chesney BROWN!
Sorry Corry.
The actress who plays Chesney's sixteen year old girlfriend is twenty one,
apparently. The show must have to cross this bridge later if the character stays longer than ten years a'la Audrey Roberts.
Also Craig Charles' character Lloyd has to be nearly twenty odd years older than his new partner but this is never touched upon in the show. Not that it particularly matters.
Father of Indy!
Sean Connery is 12 years older than Harrison Ford. I suppose technically he could be his Dad but seems unlikely he would have missed Junior's childhood because he was on archaeological digs at age 14 - unless they were school trips I suppose.
"Oliver Twist" was a woman, not a Cheltenham osteopath
Mark Lester (now an osteopath in Cheltenham, fact fans!) did not sing his songs - Who Will Buy, Where Is Love etc. - in the film, "Oliver!". They were sung by Kathe Green, the daughter of the film's musical director Johnny Green. Kathe was a bit of a wild one at the time and allegedly lubricated the old larnyx with hefty quantities of Calvados during the Oliver sessions. She used to run around with Richard Harris, who came up with the title for her 1969 album "Run The Length Of Your Wildness". The album, produced by the great Wayne Bickerton for Deram, is of a similar stripe to the Richard Harris/Jim Webb albums of the time and is an absolute belter (if you like that sort of thing). Total flop, of course, but recently reissued on Revola.
'Total Flop, of course,
but recently reissued on Revola' is a sentence that doesn't actually require those first five words. Cracking song, mind, love it. If it came out now, she'd be on bloody Jools Holland and they'd be raving about her in the fucking Guardian, but as it is she probably sleeps in a bus shelter somewhere.
Angela Lansbury and Lawrence Harvey
Manchurian Candidate (the superb and actually quite distressing original)
She was his mother. She was only 3 years older than him in real life.
There was a bloke in Scotland,
must be 20 years ago, who managed to pass himself off as a teenager and attended his local high school. I think he was about 35.
Any of the Scottish massive remember that?
I seem to recall
that he called himself Brandon Lee, who'd died in 'mysterious' 'circumstances' shortly beforehand.
Yup, that was
his "name".
Apparently his cover was blown when he showed his passport to a confidante, on a school trip...the idiot!
An absolutely wonderful performance
A good pal of mine was at school with Brandon AKA Brian Mackinnon when he atended Bearsden Academy the first time round.In 1995 aged 32 he returned to the same school for another go at getting the exam passes he needed to qualify as a doctor.He was on track with a place in University lined up.
At one point Alan Cumming was going to be playing him in a film of the affair. Alan Cumming is 46!
Was it
Jimmie Krankie?
Wee Jimmy Krankie
is 64.The same age as his/her Husband/Dad
The kind of...
...pathologically disturbing sex life the Krankees must have is not something you want to give a lot of thought to.
So I thought I'd post this and make you picture it. Mwahahaha.
Nigerian footballers
According to bloggers in Africa, Portsmouth's Nigerian striker Kanu is actually 42 years old not the 34 he claims to be.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/feb/21/nigerian-football-age-old...
Yup
A lot of West African footballers are older than they say they are. Equally, a lot of up-and-coming bands have a 'press-age'.
North by Northwest
Cary Grant was older than the actress who played his mother.
Are You Being Served
Young Mr Grace looked about 100 to me when I was a nipper.
Maybe Mrs Slocombe's pussy kept him young at heart.
Woody Allen - Love And Death
Where Young Nehamkin is older than Old Nehamkin.
The world sometimes works in mysterious ways...
I remember a story in The Telegraph about Nancy Dell'Olio..
Which featured the famous line "Nancy Dell'Olio, who has been 37 for some years.."
Wikipedia states "possibly born 23 August 1961; some sources suggest 1960, others suggest 1958[2], Dell'Olio claims 1964 in her autobiography, and during an interview with Piers Morgan in the 2008 BBC TV programme "The Dark Side Of Fame", she claimed 1783"
Why Trevor Nunn would dump the eternally scrumptious saucepot Imogen "Collar And Cuffs Don't Match" Stubbs for the over-Botoxed Italian trout is beyond me.
Actress age innit
"the 10 years between 29-30 were the best years of her life".
When she first hit the screen I was 18 months younger than Catherine Zeta Jones I now seem to be magically "older" than her now and fairly soon I will old enough to be her husband!
I saw Imogen Stubbs in 'Private Lives'
in Manchester recently, as Amanda. She was brilliant, and I was amazed when I found out how old she is
CZJ is...
...mysteriously, a few years younger than a girl I know who used to be in the same class as her at school.
I used to work
with a woman who went to the same school as Melinda Messenger. At school MM was two years older than her, but she found magically MM had become two years younger than her.
The Bay City Rollers...
...were all supposed to be about 18.
I'm sure one was about 30 at the time.
Someone above mentioned African footballers. Believe it or not, Scotland once got to the final of a major football competition. I can't remember the details but methinks it might have been an under 18/21 type thing. In the final they played an African or Middle Eastern nation and got humped....I don't think birth certificates had been checked properly.
we wuz robbed
I think it was around about 1985 or 1986. We drew 2-2 with Saudi Arabia in the world youth cup final at Hampden after being 2-0 up. Of course, we lost on penalties (having already missed a penalty in normal time). We had Paul Dickov and Brian O'Neill in the team.
The Saudis, of course, were dirty big cheating bassas and were all about 27 and seven feet tall.
I seem to recall that we beat the 'golden generation' Portugal team 1-0 in a fraught semi-final at Tynecastle. Good times.
anorak alert
I had to google it. The World under-16 Cup final was played at Hampden on 24th June 1989.
The Scotland team was: Will, Bain, Beattie, Marshall, McMillan, Bollan, O'Neil, Lindsay, Downie, Dickov, McGoldrick. Subs used: McLaren, Murray.
I'd forgotten that Gary Bollan, Neil Murray and Andy McLaren were in that team.
My mother-in-law,
regardless of how often I try to persuade her otherwise and with whatever evidence I can put my hands on, swears blind that Wilfrid Brambell was actually YOUNGER than Harry H. Corbett. (In reality, Brambell was just less than 13 years older than the actor playing his screen son.)
I suspect the fact that Corbett died first is part of the cause of confusion. I've given up trying to correct her, particularly as she's since developed this theme to include the "fact" that Brambell appeared in "A Hard Day's Night" only because he was having a torrid affair with Brian Epstein.
She should be writing for a tabloid, she really should.
Still on Hard Day's Night
Pattie Boyd plays a gymslipped schoolgirl during the train* performance of I Should Have Known Better, yet she was actually 20 at the time.
*actually filmed in a van with crew members rocking it to give the appearance of movement.
Such a clean old man
He was, of course, genuinely gay; I believe this is generally well-known.
Yes, he was and yes, it is.
Yet, while acknowledging that I have as much proof of this as my mother-in-law, I strongly suspect that the Brambell/Epstein affair is nothing more than a product of her imagination. By practically all accounts, Brambell was hardly Epstein's "type."
It's akin to her suggesting that I have slept with every straight woman I've ever worked with.
I understand that the smaller
Chuckle Brother is not a brother at all but the taller ones father.
In the film Manhattan
Woody Allen plays a character who is the same age as he himself would have been at the time. 48. His character has an affair with Mariel Hemingway playing a a character of her own age at the time. 17.
A little off-topic perhaps but watching the film again recently, I was struck by its absolute assurance that nothing could be awry with such a relationship and that the other characters playing his friends are entirely comfortable with the relationship and accept it as a viable non-questionable option. It is bizarre and in the light of Allen's subsequent real life relationship with his adopted daughter - more than faintly disturbing. There is an artistry at play in the film, particularly the cinematography and its use of Gershwin's music but its entirely irony free assumption that it's self-obsessed protagonist and his peer group should be freed from judgement by dint of their effortless monied liberal sophistication jars not a little a couple of decades on.
It was based on an affair that Allen had already had
with a 17 year old while he was in his forties. I think this came out at the time he went off with Soon-Yi Previn.
From time to time, you get the criticism aired that the age gap between the male and female romantic leads in Hollywood films is unrealistic. This might be true if you compare it to most people's lives, but perhaps the male stars look at their own lives, and think a gap of over twenty years is quite normal - although Woody Allen's case might still get some raised eyebrows.
Mrs Melville is a Clint Eastwood fan, and recently read something about his wife, who is in her forties. At least he hasn't gone off with a bimbo, she said. Perhaps not, but I had to point out that the age gap between them is still thirty five years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_(film)
Reg Varney
In On The Buses Reg Varney played a young Jack The Lad skirt chaser who still lived with his mum. He was 53 when the show started. Old Blakey was 20 years younger than him.
And Bob Grant,
who looked older than any of them, was only 35 when it started.
Heyyyyy
Henry Winkler, aka "the Fonz", was 32 at the height of his Happy Days fame. I know this because he said so in an interview with Bill Oddie on the Saturday morning kids' show "The Saturday Banana!". Oddie was still making a living off his wacky "Goodies" persona.
They both moaned quite sincerely about having to do stupid things for kids when they were well into their 30s. They were surrounded by children and sat beneath a giant inflatable banana.
When Friends first started I was
the same age as most of the cast, give a year or two. Now if I catch a repeat show it seems, unfairly, that only I have aged fifteen years - they're all still in their late twenties.
Susan George in Twinky
Playing the schoolgirl Lola. As Jim Dale sings, she is "sixteen summers and a month or two". In reality she was almost 20. Disgusting. Should not be allowed. See for yourself.
How many kinds of 'wrong'..
are contained in those three minutes and forty seconds?! And it's bloody Bronson with her!
Oops
Didn't realise you meant Charles Bronson. I thought you meant Mr Bronson from Grange Hill.
That
would have been more acceptable, even if he'd been wigless, as he was when he went swimming at lunchtimes (Mr, not Charles)
7 Up
I recently watched the excellent documentary series 7 Up through to 49 Up and, with the odd exception, many of the subjects looked preposterously old for their years. Lost count of the amount of times someone said: 'He's 28... 28!' etc. They all de-aged a bit after emerging from the 1980s though.
I hope The Word will do a feature on the series when 56 Up appears next year.
George had just reached 25
When The Beatles went to India and 26 when they broke, 27 when it became offical.
Gary Coleman from Diff'rent Strokes
I was about to contribute to this thread with some dry comment about the pint-size TV star but just read up more about him and now feel slightly depressed.
Poor fella.
"What'choo talkin' about, Zanti Misfit?"
Just thought I'd save time for the next poster.
If you think that's depressing ...
... just wait until you find out about Dana Plato.
Sally Thomsett was 20????
You don't know how much weight that news has lifted from my shoulders.
She was 40
when I met her, and I thought of her as ridiculously old lady. Oh, how blind I was...
As Usual....
What ho!
Jeeves.
What are you implying?
Is Bowie older than he claims to be?
mary chain
jim and william reid both lied heavilly in 84/5 by frequently stating their ages as 18 and 19...
Jesus
I presume that really they were only 14 and 15 - it's a hard old life in East Kilbride!
Billy Bunter
was about 60, wasn't he?