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You're not a Luddite - *this* is a Luddite

David Hepworth's picture

Image As the Duty Pedant at this moment in time I feel I must say on behalf of the management that if I hear one more person describe themselves as "a Luddite" because they haven't worked out how to sync up Spotify for iPhone or they still like playing vinyl records you will hear me bellow "Enough!" clean across the kingdom.

The Luddites, for those who don't know, were weavers who objected to the introduction of advanced weaving machinery in factories in the wake of the Napoleonic Wars, when rural poverty was at its height. At their most extreme they went in for breaking into the factories and destroying the looms, even going so far as to murder mill owners. Many were executed and sent into penal servitude. Serious business.

Now just because you are the only person in your road who hasn't got a flat screen TV, that doesn't mean that you are stealing into their houses at dead of night, smashing them to pieces and suggesting that we should go back to the days when all able bodied men had to do a couple of hours archery practice once a week on the village green.

A little proportion please.

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I used to enjoy Worker's Playtime on the wireless before digital

but then I'm a bit of a Huddite.

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skirky | 8 September 2010 - 1:19pm

I prefer raw vegetables

Am I a crudite?

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Captain Underpants | 8 September 2010 - 1:21pm

Muddite

I really love those tiger feet.

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Spartacus Mills | 8 September 2010 - 1:27pm

I'm being weally weally quiet

Am I a Fuddite?

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DogFacedBoy | 8 September 2010 - 1:30pm

I like cliched legal terminology

am I a M'Ludite?

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ceepee | 8 September 2010 - 1:34pm

No, but you're certainly

erudite

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Captain Underpants | 8 September 2010 - 2:47pm

I keep tripping up

lanky American sprinters in my bare feet

Am I a Buddite?

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DogFacedBoy | 8 September 2010 - 1:42pm

I can't help chugging

crap American beers.

Am I a Bud Lite?

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Fraser M | 8 September 2010 - 1:46pm

I haven't allowed any weaving machinery

into my house.

I am a Luddite.

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Leedsboy | 8 September 2010 - 1:50pm

Anyone on here

a Juddite?


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Ahh_Bisto | 8 September 2010 - 1:51pm

I'm really, really good

at fishing.

Am I a Nuddite?

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Leedsboy | 8 September 2010 - 1:54pm

That'll be me then...

http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/idiots-guide-html-tags-please-anyo...

Humble apologies - but I did call myself an idiot too!

Sorry, but not all of The Massive are as eloquent as Backwards7, as hilarious as Captain Underpants or as good as writing about music as JoeR - some of us are not £50.00 man and have to live in an area that gets lottery money allocated to it as seen on Thames Valley Police Chase Chav Car Thieves Uncut - I love it when my mum calls me up, "oh, saw your road on tele last night again dear".
Not all of us own an Apple or even had computers at school before they left to go on a YOPS scheme at 16...not all of us paid attention in History!

I shall retire to my candle lit room and write out "Crop rotation in the 14th Century was considerably more widespread..." 1,000 times.

Oh, better add one of these befor you think I am really offended ;-)

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Retro Man | 8 September 2010 - 1:55pm

Retire to my candle lit room ...

... and practice your new embedded-link HTML skills while you're there ;-)

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Gatz | 8 September 2010 - 2:03pm

Haha...

nice one, have an "up"...

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Retro Man | 8 September 2010 - 2:21pm

D'ya think Mr Hepworth's being a bit

McCartyite?

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Ahh_Bisto | 8 September 2010 - 2:04pm

If it's any comfort.....

....it wasn't you at all.

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David Hepworth | 8 September 2010 - 2:05pm

I applaud your attention to detail in the OP

Looking down from that lofty pillar of rectitude in N1 ... I'm tempted to join you up there ... then we'd be stylites

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Glenbervie | 10 September 2010 - 7:43pm

After John....

I knew it, I bloody knew it.

No you didn't, you said John....

Currently being repeated on Dave or somesuch. Well worth a watch. Hard to believe they're over 25 years old!

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Six Dog | 8 September 2010 - 2:50pm

I have been jumping into ponds and slow-flowing rivers

With the aim of destroying all fish of the species Scardinius erythrophthalmus which, I take it, makes me a ruddite.

Or I might have been smashing weaving equipment. But in China.

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Lenny Law | 8 September 2010 - 2:17pm

It's a real shame

you can only hit the up arrow once.

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skirky | 8 September 2010 - 2:32pm

I've seen them loads of time...

I've got all their records, t shirts and even a mug
I'm definitely...... a Cudite !
cud mug

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Chris G | 8 September 2010 - 2:35pm

I have a sweet tooth

I'm a puddite.

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Spartacus Mills | 8 September 2010 - 2:35pm

This thread could blow up in our faces

It's cordite.

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Malc | 8 September 2010 - 2:44pm

I favour the original AC\DC drummer

I'm a Ruddite

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DogFacedBoy | 8 September 2010 - 2:46pm

I don't use soap

Am I a Sudite?

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Leedsboy | 8 September 2010 - 2:46pm

I'm obsessed by

those missiles the Iraqis used in the 1991 Gulf War that were endlessly reported as being shot down by the opposing Patriot missiles.

I'm a SCUDdite.

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milkybarnick | 8 September 2010 - 2:51pm

I can't stop watching...

...Paul Thomas Anderson movies starring Daniel Day-Lewis.

Does that make me a therewillbebloodite?

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Con Coleman | 8 September 2010 - 3:09pm

I believe

in having a spare of everything.
I'm an extradite.

And, if mixed with water, I can cure stomach upsets.
I'm a Dioralyte.

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drakeygirl | 8 September 2010 - 3:14pm

If you sat in a bath of water

and connected yourself up to a battery, you might end up as an electrolyte.

je prendrai mon manteau...

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illuminatus | 13 September 2010 - 11:03pm

So, what you're saying is...

that the Luddites were actually Thugs and Hooligans.

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Archie Valparaiso | 8 September 2010 - 3:19pm

Well, no doubt some of them were....

...but I was trying to draw a distinction between people who try to throw technological progress and people who aren't quite early adopters.

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David Hepworth | 8 September 2010 - 3:23pm

That Luddite looks like Nora Batty...

but surely modern language is full of examples of such historical references being co-opted for use as a general term - in my take on it, it applies to someone who is not good with technology, not to be taken literally.

In fact there are so many examples - Philistine and errr..help me out here...so many I can't think of any more....

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Retro Man | 8 September 2010 - 4:30pm

Is..

...technophobe maybe the correct term for someone who's not up to speed with new technology?

Luddites didn't want the new technology because it would do away with their jobs.

Ned Ludd.

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bigsteviecook | 8 September 2010 - 4:37pm

It was

but it's been replaced by the word parent.

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Leedsboy | 8 September 2010 - 4:41pm

A Pedant writes again:

I know this doesn't really matter but a technophobe is someone who has a phobia about technology. Somebody who's not up to speed with new technology is just, well, average, aren't they?

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David Hepworth | 8 September 2010 - 5:29pm

I take it...

we shouldn't get you started on "cynical tackles" then.

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Archie Valparaiso | 8 September 2010 - 6:10pm

Nothing wrong with cynical tackles

I remember the conspiratorial sideways glances offered by Vinnie Jones before he lunged towards the next hapless midfielder. He often said in interviews that football "is only a game, at the end of the day". I would have expected more commitment from a top footballer - this level of cynicism was tolerated in the 1980s.

Stuart Pearce used sarcasm to great effect in dead ball situations and John Wark's famous pithiness was devastating to opposing goalies.

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Austin | 8 September 2010 - 7:36pm

See also:

Vandals - are they a member of an Germanic tribe that sacked Rome, or are they spray painting an underpass?

Goths - are they a member of a Germanic tribe that sacked Rome, or are they just wearing black clothes and a lot of eye-liner?

etc

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Gauntlet | 8 September 2010 - 5:40pm

And then:

Lesbian: are they from the Greek island of Lesbos, or are they a homosexual woman?

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Gauntlet | 8 September 2010 - 5:42pm

Eye Liner!

none of that here, a bit of hairspray occasionally, most of the Goth blokes I knew were big brutes, the maidens on the other hand.... [goes off on one]

can I just throw 'Catholic taste' into this pot puri

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James Blast | 8 September 2010 - 6:07pm

"Catholic" or "catholic"

one means "universal" the other pertains more specifically to the Rome based branch of the Christian church.

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Chris G | 8 September 2010 - 6:20pm

No pot pourri here...

... unless you're a pleasingly scented Catholic. I am.

Gets chasuble

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FakeGeordie | 8 September 2010 - 7:31pm

I just thought...

I just thought there were parallels between "Luddite" and how those other proper-name-derived words have evolved to their current meanings. Never mind.

But as to your point, I sort of know what you mean, but "violently opposed to industrialisation" to "somewhat reluctant to switch to the latest technology" isn't that much of a leap over 250 years or so, is it? Some words ("drab", "nice", "luxury"...) have travelled a much more picturesque road over more or less the same period.

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Archie Valparaiso | 8 September 2010 - 5:20pm

How tickled I am by this thread

Yes, I'm a Doddite

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DogFacedBoy | 8 September 2010 - 3:21pm

"we laugh ... tell a few jokes"

It's what that fuzz guitar "app" was invented for. Gene Record just used what was around, as and when it suited. Good approach to technology.

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Richard Lowe | 8 September 2010 - 3:30pm

Tuuu.....

ne.

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Patrick Crowther | 8 September 2010 - 6:32pm

Hooligan

Named after a family in south east London who were rather notorious, the Houlihans.

I won't have any retired stallions in my house. It's too small.

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Richie B | 8 September 2010 - 3:33pm

The Hooligans in Shaftsbury

I like how Bill's English accent appears to be that of David St Hubbins of ver Tap

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DogFacedBoy | 8 September 2010 - 3:44pm

Well, I knew what a

Luddite was. And a hooligan. So yah-boo.

I'm a smugite

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Helena Handcart | 8 September 2010 - 3:55pm

I've just had a new kitchen installed

I'm a Smegite

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Roy Levy | 11 September 2010 - 10:06am

Memo to Sheffield Utd fans

Wednesdayite-kinda ok ?
Blade- great name,why choose another ?
Unitedite- sounds c**p
While we are in that part of the world ,Yesterday i had a CAPTCHA that was Ebaj Gum.

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Sour Crout | 8 September 2010 - 4:26pm

The nature of the beast.

Most certainly a graphite.

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Pencilsqueezer | 8 September 2010 - 4:52pm

Davids argument

is a bit sticky - is it aruldite?

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Steve Turner | 8 September 2010 - 4:58pm

never shutting up.

I never know when to shut up.

I am a gobshite.

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jackthebiscuit | 8 September 2010 - 5:07pm

I'm in ore of the luddites.

I admire their chutzpah. I've been known to break into word processors and trash their dictionaries, whenever they define me as a source of 'aluminum'.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 8 September 2010 - 5:16pm

My brother was a Whizz Kid

but I was a Chip-ite

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badartdog | 8 September 2010 - 5:28pm

Wizzard & Chips

I think a few of the Massives younger members will be scratching their heads at that post !!

have an up

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jackthebiscuit | 8 September 2010 - 6:05pm

A pedant-ite writes

Whizzer and Chips.

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nicktf | 8 September 2010 - 7:16pm

Cheeky!

-

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Richie B | 9 September 2010 - 4:27pm

no no no...

Cheeky was a different comic entirely. It merged with Whoopee!!! which later merged with W&C, but...

I think i've said enough

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ivan | 9 September 2010 - 4:38pm

Cheeky Weekly

Was the very best comic ever. EVER!

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Leedsboy | 9 September 2010 - 4:41pm

dude...

we both need to get out more often...

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ivan | 11 September 2010 - 12:51am

According to Wikipedia...

"Music critic Alexis Petridis got his break in journalism writing scripts for early Mustapha Million comics."

Hmmmmmm.

Cheeky was brilliant.

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Richie B | 11 September 2010 - 10:46am

In the picture

which accompanies the original post the Luddite appears to be wearing a dress - was he a transvestite?

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badartdog | 8 September 2010 - 5:30pm

im considering a love affair with macca

guess im a vegemite

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matt wright | 8 September 2010 - 5:33pm

You're not a pedant


The Pedants, for those who don't know, were 15th century Italian goatherds who violently objected to what they perceived as the increasingly shoddy use of language in public life.
In one notable incident, they destroyed a monastic library which specialised in self-help books, proclaiming that to receive advice from a book did not constitute "self-help", but merely "help". Serious business, indeed.

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Nick White | 8 September 2010 - 5:57pm

Marvellous point...

Nickwhite.

Three more from him later.

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skirky | 8 September 2010 - 6:56pm

I can't watch all this thread

I'll wait for the hilites

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FakeGeordie | 8 September 2010 - 6:18pm

Do they live next door

to the Hittites?

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Vulpes Vulpes | 10 September 2010 - 1:51pm

Did Mr Hepworth really use the phrase

'at this moment in time' in the original post? Seems a bit trite for one so erudite? I'll say night night - I'm off for a shower.

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badartdog | 8 September 2010 - 7:29pm

I wouldn't shag George Clooney

but my marmite

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ivan | 8 September 2010 - 8:17pm

I could write a long, smug treatise

on the inappropriate use of words like 'pedant' and 'Luddite' but I fear it may end up being rather recondite.

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illuminatus | 8 September 2010 - 8:43pm

I'm with Mr H and a bonus point

for using "at this moment in time" rather than the flawed "at this point in time".

Mind you, the start of the sentence may have been better expressed "As the current Duty Pedant....."

coat > door >

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Junior Wells | 8 September 2010 - 10:35pm

I'm sticking with this thread

Does that make me an Araldite?

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stimpy | 8 September 2010 - 10:42pm

Yer actual pedantry

Just reading the new Word magazine and came across the John Naughton piece on Roald Dahl: "Having prevaricated for 16 years, she passed the job [of writing a biography] to Sturrock in 2006 ..."
'Prevaricate' means 'lie' ('to avoid telling the truth or saying exactly what you think') - I guess what's meant is 'procrastinate'. This substitution is now so common that 'prevaricate' may well have flipped meaning altogether - well outpacing 'luddite'

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goldfinch | 9 September 2010 - 6:41am

Speak for yourself

How do you know I'm not stealing into my neighbours houses at dead of night and smashing their flat-screen tellys to pieces?

There's no coppers reading this thread are there?

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LondonLee | 9 September 2010 - 1:42pm

I'm not a Luddite.

But I can sometimes be 'a bit of a luddite...'

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Adman | 9 September 2010 - 4:19pm

In a galaxy far far away..


Return of The Juddites

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Ahh_Bisto | 10 September 2010 - 12:18pm

I`m a

1949 Morris Minor...which makes me a low light. (For classic car buffs only)

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Uncle Mick | 10 September 2010 - 7:25pm
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