Your Mission
Mrs Vixen and I are lucky enough to be off to the Emerald Isle for the long weekend. The B&B is booked, the hire car is being valeted as I type. The car has a CD player. The B&B room has a CD player.
Your mission, should you decide to accept it, is to suggest the playlist for our perambulations through Mayo and Galway and on to the Connemara coast.
We're looking to plunder the boutiques of Clifden and Spideal, bringing back a hefty stash of Irish music, new or old, to enhance the limited number of Christy Moore, Horslips, Chieftains and Goats Don't Shave titles we already own.
Make your suggestions, fellow travellers on music's highway; miles will be driven whilst listening to them and Guinness will be drunk to them.
Slainte!
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Bringing It All Back Home
The soundtrack to the BBC series of the same name, originally released as triple vinyl but now (I think, still) available on a double CD.
a good mix (to my quarter-Irish ears) of traditional Irish bands and other (mostly American) artists performing other material with strong Celtic influences.
Good tip Paul,
my Amazon wish list just expanded.
A totally fantastic collection...
...of ancient and modern takes on Irish music (and a bloomin' great documentary too!), most of it performed in an intimate live context. Paul Brady's performance of his "Nothing but the same old story" is a spine-tingling masterpiece of frustration and chip-on-the-shoulder venom. One of my fave songs of all time.
The old plank road
The Chieftains with a bunch of guests, many of whom are country singers - thus reinforcing the migration of people, music and ideas from the Emerald Isle across the Atlantic. You might add a copy of "Thousands are sailing" by the Pogues onto a playlist, just for good measure.
Crikey, and only a fiver, hmmmmmm
Amazon now slightly richer, me slightly poorer. Cheers!
The Saw Doctors first and second albums
'If this is Rock and Roll' and 'all the way from Tuam' are both heavily influenced by that neck of the woods. ITIR&R features N17, about the road from Galway to Sligo (and which emigrants leaving Tuam, Co Galway would have used to get to Shannon Airport) whilst ATWFT has the wonderful 'Clare Island'. Lots of other songs on the albums namecheck wee places you might or not pass through.
Both albums are genuinely great stuff; i went to school in Tuam around the time that the Saw Doctors were starting to make it big(-ish!) and even still, this many years on, i get a wee wave of nostalgia when i hear anything from them.
Beat me to it
Both great albums and ideal for a holiday car trip.
Saw Doctors prescription
Are these the best Saw Doctors albums all round? I heard there's a great live album - would that be the best place to start?
Live album?
No, it's shite, surprisingly, as they are anything but, live, normally, but then again, one is seldom fully critically intact at Glastonbury or Cropredy........
naw retro - your critical faculties were
largely unimpeded; they're a great live act too. I still fondly recall the 8 minute version of Teenage Kicks they did (complete with Accordion solo and numerous Undertones on stage with them) at the Point Depot on New Years Eve 1992
Ahh Teenage Kicks by The Saw Doctors
was the best encore ever - even better than the Big Dish doing Refugee.
Don't know the sequence
but "All the way from Tuam" never fails. I posted elsewhere that it got me a night of free G&Ts in San Francisco when i put "The Green ad Red of Mayo" on the jukebox. Wonderful.
darned tootin...
Hay Wrap (especially the instrumental break in the middle) always gets me too...the tune being 'The Wests Awake' but arranged to make it sound like a national anthem.
Can I go up on top?
I promise I'll be careful!
Get That Wasp...
....off my sandwich......
a pedant writes
"I swear to God i'll be careful..."
Tears
A fair cop.
A friend of mine - a passionate Sunday morning footy player - actually started sobbing (albeit when well refreshed) during "Broke my heart", surely one of the few good songs about footy. Another thread?
Roscommon CBS 1981
A dreary afternoon
We travelled down from Tuam
I saw that open goal
I can see it still
Fifty-fifty ball
You nearly got me killed
You broke my heart
Tore it apart
We lost that spark
When you broke my heart
We might have won the game
But I just didn't care
You went and let it go
Just like I wasn't there
I saw you comin' in
I wasn't marked at all
I had it in the net
If you had passed the ball
Chorus
I was standing on the edge
Of the parallelogram
Roarin' me head off
Pass it in Sham
Play it in low
Don't hesitate or stall
Will you open your eyes
For Christ' sake
Pass me the ball
Chorus
Their full-back was big
But I was small and fast
I had him left for dead
If I had got that pass
A girl can foul you up
Tear your life apart
There's more than just one way
To break a young mans heart
And you broke mine
That's two more
for the shopping list then, thanks!
The Emerald Isle
Has to be Van the Man - why not with the Chieftains on "Irish Heartbeat"?... and maybe some Waterboys?
Anyway, good job the car has a CD player cuz the tape's going to self-destruct in 5 seconds........
Have a Guinness (or three) for me!
You are entirely correct
that there has to be some Van. I didn't mention him because I've got every last disc he's ever done, and Irish Heartbeat will be with us on our little trip.
King's Bar in Clifden does a nice pint, I'll raise a few.
Now yer talkin!
You mention some of the obvious suspects, tho' I can't believe a trip to Spiddal (if that is the same as Spideal) could possibly not include the trio of Fishermans Blues, Room to Roam and Too Close to Heaven, by the Waterboys, even if the chief 'boy is a scot.) All made in or near Spiddal. So from there a quick leap into Sharon Shannon, ex Waterboy, um, girl, herself. If jollity is your game, follow the road to Tuam, home of the Saw Doctors, another loose W'boy connection, with Anto Thistlewaite siding with them after ceasing to be a W'boy.
Further north is Paul Brady territory, any of his best of's would be a good start, but only that as you will be drawn in. Some ladies worth a punt would be the 3 golden voiced colleens, Dolores Keane, Mary Coughlan and, with a new CD just out, Eleanor McEvoy.
Traditional music is endless, with Altan holding the sceptre, I feel, but Lunasa and Solas hold up well. And of course, the elder statesmen of Planxty and the Bothy Band. De Dannan are good in parts. Moving Hearts first is fabulous, the rest less so.
Some ethereal piping, some of Davy Spillane holds up well, I like Atlantic Bridge and whilst we're skirting into new agey stuff, Clannad are a whole lot better than erstwhile member. thereof, Enya.
I am sure I have missed out loads, as I write remembering andy White, Ron kavana and, how could I forget, Sean-nos Nua, Sinead O'Connors marvellous traditional take. And I hope your Chieftains includes Celtic Heartbeat with Van.
Final suggestion: Bringing it all back home, the dble CD soundtrack from the TV series, with as good a panoply of irish and irish related and derived music as you can find.
Slainte!
Thanks Retro.
The first Moving Hearts was already in my overnight bag, along with Irish Heartbeat, but you've given me another half dozen names to watch out for.
I'll be printing out this thread to take with me, and the plastic will be getting a good flex, I fear.
And yes, Spiddal, as the maps show it, is really Spideal.
Moving Hearts
Memories of art college back in the distant early 80's come flooding back - skinny jeans & red Kickers and smoking OPs (i.e. other peoples') cuz I was skint.
The first album is all I ever heard & I've never got around to getting it on CD.. still that's true of about 400 other albums!
Great pipes, if I remember..
There is a good "Best of"...
...double CD, selected by Donal Lunny, including nearly all the first album and scatterings from the rest.
Steve Earle...
... Steve's Last Ramble & Galway Girl (from Trancendental Blues).
Blinding tunes wrote while Mr. Earle lived in Galway (recorded with Sharon Shannon).
Emerald Earle
While we're on Steve Earle, I also love his song "Dixieland" off his album with the Del McCoury Band, "The Mountain". It shows the exact crossover point between country/bluegrass and Irish folk. From the Irish angle it's like a great lost Pogues song.
Oh and Vulpes
If you make it up to Westport, Co. Mayo, you'll have to visit Matt Molloys pub. He was in the Chieftans, and seriously, the Guinness is awfully good there.
Down the road from there is a wee village called Mulranny where the Dad was from and which forms my only 'brush with rock'n'roll' story which i might as well regale here
It's 1978, I'm 4 and my dad was, er, 55 - lets just say that Popular culture and, well, The Beatles have passed him by. We saunter on up to the Hotel there for a stroll - or rather i was on his shoulders when we notice a huge crowd on the front lawn. Using nothing more than brass neck, the Dad (with infant on his shoulders) jostles his way to the front where i recall a load of cameras and the like and, lo, a helicopter lands. I don't remember that much, save that a bloke with a hat and glasses gets out along with this smaller bird in tow.
He makes a run towards the hotel, coming straight towards us. He sorta bangs into the Dad and almost sends me flying off Dads shoulders. He stops. Turns. Helps me back up and says 'Sorry mate'
Yoko said fuck all, obv...
Cheers, Ivan
I'll be checking out the map for Westport while Ryan Air try to flog us a stale egg sandwich and some Dublin tap water for 20 Euros.
Good job your old man didn't get too close to that chopper with you on his shoulders!
Steve Earl
I'm beginning to realise this blog is seriously bad for my future finances.... my CD hitlist is growing by the second!!!
Celtus
For the more chilled-out moments I recommend "Moonchild" by Celtus. I bought it after hearing several tracks on Bob Harris' Saturday night show. Probably one of my favourite albums from the 1990s, but is done an injustice by the cover of the re-release.
Top tip.
I ordered the album on the strength of your enthusiasm. Got back from Ireland yesterday evening and it was here. Good call.
The Pogues
Do yourself a nice compilation of the Pogues, lovely stuff.
Yup, you can't beat...
London, can you.
OK, OK, so Phillip Chevron was a Radiator from Space and Terry Woods was Gay and Terry Woods etc etc.......
Fair point
Fair point Retro but The Pogues were a band that opened my ears to a whole host of folk music which maybe I wouldn't have listened to otherwise. I think their "non-Irishness" along with the forementioned Steve Earle and The Waterboys shouldn't exclude them from being played whilst holidaying in the Emerald Isle. Their obvious love of the music of that country makes those artists perfect car music IMHO.
Didn't know that Terry Woods was gay? ;)
Ho ho, good one.
Funnily enough, Phil Chevron is.
Chevron
Didn't he write a song (Radiators era) about not being able to meet his boyfriend(s) under a clock-tower in his home-town where traditionally young couples would meet, because of his sexuality? Think I read that once but have no idea of the name of the track.
And there's more ....
Another vote for Altan, particularly their earlier albums, before they signed to Virgin.
Other groups not yet mentioned:
Dervish, I particularly like 'At the end of the day'. I remember seeing them looking very bleary-eyed at a lunchtime concert at Sidmouth - I don't think they knew that you could get up before 3 pm.
Patrick Street with Andy Irvine and others.
Four Men and A Dog, which I love. Double fiddle attack with banjo and bodhran and great rhythm guitar (Arty McGlynn on their first album). My favourite is 'Dr A's Secret Remedies', just good fun, I love Hector the Hero and Me (irish Folk Blues!)
And nobody's mentioned Christy Moore so far, so I just have.
Finally, if you include Irish-American music, as a (bad) fiddler myself I can recommend:
Eileen Ivers, her first album is very good and traditional but then 'Wild Blue' is the Hendrix of Irish music, if you don't mind a bit fusion-ish. The opening track just makes me want to throw my violin away, I can't compete.
Martin Hayes and Dennis Cahill. Just the greatest fiddle playing imaginable. He plays the jigs as if they were slow airs, he just seems to have so much time for the slides and turns - effortless. 'Lonsome Touch' is my folk Desert Island Disc, but their live in Seattle album has the amazing 27 minute track which starts with the most haunting of slow airs and they gradually build up speed as they switch from tune to tune and style to style. Great playing. But if you like your Irish music at full throttle it may not be for you.
Christy Moore was mentioned....
.....as a given, in the opening gambit. His brother, Luka Bloom, is OK too.
4 Men and a dog, terrific, saw them at some festival yonks ago. I think they have just regrouped. Patrick Street likewise quite never go away entirely, and have the great Ged Foley, ex the House Band currently with them.
Thanks for reminding me of Wild Blue/Eileen Ivers: another I used to have on cassette. fabulous stuff!!
Damien Dempsey is probably mentioned best under proceed with caution: he is either to your taste or awful. His byline is irish meets marley, which sort of explains it, but he is, um, a very angry fella.
Luka Bloom is Christy Moore's brother?
Well, I've learned something new today. Luka is playing Glastonbury this year - well worth a look I feel.
Damien Dempsey played Leftfield at Glastonbury last year and very fine he was too - not particularly angry as I recall although somewhat passionate.
Damien is a good mate of Ian Prowse of Amsterdam, who have Christy Moore guesting on the beautiful 'Nothing's Going Right' on their new album, 'Arm in Arm'. The combination of Christy's appearance, and the fiddle of Miss Anna Jenkins, would make Arm in Arm an ideal companion to your trip as well.
Ah! Dervish
That's another one to CD-R and pop in the bag then, I've a copy of Healing Heart here somewhere. Thanks for the reminder!
And a mention for Sidmouth! Memories of my days in Exeter, when Sidmouth was but a hop down the coast. I probably still have pint glasses that belong to one or more of Sidmouth's finest hostelries, having somehow returned to my sweaty mitt time and again during their journey from bar to bar, band to band, song to song.
Greatest folk festival in the known universe, bar none.
Goin to My Home Town
Rory Gallagher's mandolin driven ecstatic anthem never fails. Watch yer dont spill your pint. Have a great trip.
Feck!
Yes. That's going on the car CD the minute I start the engine.
Not mentioned so far.....
.....for some reason but Bap Kennedy is superb!!
Lonely Street and Domestic Blues are wonderful albums in an Irish/Country/Americana style.
Planxty
Planxty - The Well Below The Valley. Fantastic.
Harp on
Derek Bell who played harp etc with the Chieftains made a great record as a tribute to the legendary harpist Carolan, it's on emusic and I can't recommend it enough
http://www.emusic.com/album/Derek-Bell-Carolan-s-Receipt-MP3-Download/10...
I want it to soundtrack my drive around the Dingle peninsula...
Seconded
Very good.
Thirded.
;-)
Fourthed
Ordered. You buggers will be the ruin of me.
That's why I like the Word blog
I would never have in my life imagined that Irish harp music would be any good let alone this good. That's going to be downloaded next month.
Thanks very much for the tip.
top marks to Derek Bell
for having an album called 'Derek Bell plays with himself'
Or you could try
All of the above are excellent choices, or you could try something by the Afro-Celt Soundsystem, does exactly what it says on the tin. You can´t go wrong with the late Joe Dolan´s Greatest hits. Or the curious hybrid of Irish Country and Western.
au contraire
you can go very very wrong with the 'curious hybrid of Irish Country and Western'. Trust me, Vulpes, old mucker, give Joe Dolan a rattle if you will. He had a fine voice and some belting tunes, but steer clear of Irish C&W - terrible 3 chord twaddle and Bontempi organ style drums in the background.
Truly hideous. I know this, 'cos it's all that local radio plays around these here parts...
The truly, truly terrible
has to be experienced first hand and without preparation, then one can truly see the horror. I didn´t mean to lump poor old Joe in with the nightmare of Irish C&W, great singer, a belter of songs if you will and a true gentleman.
Have you gone yet, Foxy?
Just a quick additional. The Blacks, Mary and Frances. Avoid like the plague, despite an often good choice of material and good musicianship, both remain twee twaddle.
And whilst exorcising demons, Goats Can't Shave! Now they're a load of unlistenable bollox, aren't they!? Saw them support the Oysters once and, ahead of that, bought them on a Cooking Vinyl cheapo offer. One track good enough for posterity, the rest, as they say, unlistenable claptrap.
I have noticed the plethora
of dodgy "Celtic" crapola on sale in airports and tourist traps across the island, and certain reoccurring names have been added to my vetoed list.
We must agree to disagree when it comes to the Goats, however. I confess to a fondness for shouting "We'll build our own Las Vegas in the hills of Donegal" at the top of my lungs when driving through the lanes of the west coast counties.
We have indeed gone, and returned.
The weekend was sound-tracked by those of the recommendations above which were already on my shelves, and there is a new little pile of musical goodies to explore, either bought over there or arriving from Amazon daily, courtesy of the Word Music Encyclopaedia, aka this blog.
We had the best weekend possible, it was marvelous.
Slainte!
I know that this is way too late but...
... you should also check out Brian Houston's album "Sugar Queen". He was mentioned in the good Christian artists thread but don't hold that against him, he's genuinely good. "Sugar Queen's" a great collection of rootsy bluesy tunes in slightly Van-the-Man-if-he-wasn't-now-a-curmudgeonly-old-thing-a-wee-bit-too-content-to-phone-in-a-performance-these-days mode (and before any flaming starts I'm a Van fan from waaaaaaaay back). Great album!
PS Glad you had a great weekend. We love Ireland and being let loose there in a hire car is one of our fave fave things!
other bands
These are more Anglo-Irish than Irish-Irish though you wouldn't know. Kate Bush Hounds of Love is fantastic when driving round the country - all those big drums, big vocals and big ideas and in the Ninth Wave an extended jig sequence. She has worked with Donal Lunny and although some were a bit sniffy about her Irish I think her version of Mna Na h-Eireann is magical and on the extended version of Hounds she also does an unaccompanied version of My Lagan Love.
Sharon Shannon - big in the charts here with Mundy/Steve Earle for Galway Girl - has a track called Cavan Potholes (which is on the same Donal Lunny organised album Common Ground which has Mna Na h-Eireann). It's superb when you are in a car trying to avoid the same things.
Other names to check out are Gemma Hayes, Director and Fionn Regan - who was nominated for a Mercury last year. There also was that fantastic album from Hal a few years back which was made for sunny days driving in The West.
Guilty pleasure would be Bono being as pop as he gets on a Disclab remix of his and The Corrs (yes the Corrs) version of Ryan Adams When the Stars Go Blue. Sounds great along with other U2 tracks such as Ground Beneath Her Feet and the magical 'In a Lifetime' which Bono did with Clannad.
If you want one album out of all this, I would pick Hounds of Love. And one track - Cavan Potholes. It'll grow on you!
Too late
Just checked the dates. These choices will have to do for the next time you visit Ireland - there will be a next time won't there? One more mad choice - Kate Bush covering Sexual Healing with the added extra of uilleann pipes. Mad but it works -it was a 'b=side' or extra track with the single King of the Mountain.
We love the place, and go as often as we can afford to.
This thread has left me much poorer financially, but the CD collection has been enlivened no end.
The "Common Ground" compilation, along with several other titles, is on its way to me from Amazon, and as I type this postscipt, Sharon Shannon's absolute belter called "The Diamond Mountain Sessions" is worrying the neighbours.
Fantastic.