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Your favourite city
Posted by Prestonia on 12 December 2010 - 11:46pm.
I'm just off the train from a weekend in Edinburgh : copper skies, beautiful buildings, (the very old perfectly situated next to the very new), a fascinating range of independent shops that sell stuff you didn't know you needed, a wealth of galleries containing an embarrassment of riches and more bars than Shane Macgowan could shake a stick at, (including the Cafe Royal - the world's best pub, no contest). Is there anywhere else I should see?
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San Sebastian
takes some beating. Lovely bars with delicious pintxo. Beautiful town with great beach in a bay. Laid back but smart during the day, lively and still smart during the evening. Wonderful restaurants and very walkable. It's full of fun and surprises and yet very relaxing.
I'm with you there, Leedsboy
I absolutely love San Sebastian. It's a marvellous place, we go there for at least a week every year and never get bored with it.
London
A lot of people - especially Londoners - find this hard to understand, but I love London. I like big, bustling cities, especially those rich in history, and London is up there with the best of them. Plus, it always feels like there's so much exciting stuff going on in the city. I'm sure that if I lived there, I'd be skint in no time - not due to the relatively high cost of living, but because I'd be out and about every single night doing something different.
I love London too.
It's not my absolutely favourite city, but I love (sort of) living and (not-sort-of) working here. It attracts a lot of criticism, some of which is justified and some of which isn't, but there's no doubt that it's a beautiful and exciting place to be.
Paris
It IS expensive, but Paris (particularly in the Springtime) is a beautiful city.
Paris for me
as well. Stunning buildings around every corner and one of the few places I've been (together with New York) that was just like I thought it would be.
I've been half a dozen times but there are still many things I need to see there.
An eyeful
I could quite happily sit under the Eiffel Tower for hours. Justing looking at it fills with awe. Glorious structure.
They say you can see Chartres cathedral from the top.Whats the point? Go to Chartres.
Some of the samller cities of France are worth a mention
- Chartres
- Tours
- Vannes
- Montpellier
- Nantes
- Rouen
Loads more and all within easy reach thanks to ...erm...I was going to say RyanAir but best not.
I would add
Strasbourg to that list too.
Pompidou Centre
After a disastrous fortnight in Languedoc we had a few days in Paris at the end of this years holiday. The museum of modern art in the Pompidou centre single handedly saved the day. Really interesting fun art that my 10 and 7 year olds enjoyed hugely. They thought rest of Paris was pretty good too.
Vancouver
It seems to have everything. Mountains, sea, really friendly people, good food, good beer, and it feels safe and very civilised. Even has clean public toilets.
Catterick
It's got soldiers, eight (l think) bars, one nightclub, narrow minded people and easy access to the A1.
Want more? You can't handle more!
What about the extensive shopping?
Tesco, Aldi, Greggs and Peacocks. This place really does have so much to offer. Not sure I could handle the hustle of living in the centre of it though. Would probbaly chose to live in one of the beautiful suburbs like Colburn!
Chicago
Working liveable Midwest city - with the finest skyline,. Lake Michigan, restaurants, bars, clubs and a rocking aquarium and pier - and the Blues Brothers...
plus
Wrigley Field!
Lucca
Wonderful walled Tuscan city, usually overlooked as tourists rush around Florence and Siena.
Obvious, but...
New York is the greatest city that I've visited. Apart from anything else, it is a living, breathing monument to the idea of what a city should be. My no. 2 is Florence.
Oh yes..
New York knocked Madrid off my top spot. I've never fallen so instantly and totally in love with a place.
Me too
New York, just the best city to walk around. I like cities and I love the architecture, all the Brownstone buildings and fire escapes remind me of US tv shows from the 70s.
Agreed
We were surprised by how easy it is to walk around. And the architecture is just stunning..
Many favourites.
London is probably my favourite city full stop. Other favourite UK city is Newcastle - I love the Geordies.
Outside of UK I would say Montreal, Vancouver, New Orleans, Tokyo, Buenos Aires, Paris, New York and Amsterdam.
Least favourite would be Lima which I found threatening despite the great colonial architecture.
Newcastle is great
- moving to the North East was the best thing I ever did. The people do make it, but its a handsome city and quite small so you feel you can get to know it properly. Otherwise - New York, Cordoba (city?), and quite a big soft spot for London
Newcastle, because it's home..
Currently working away but going back for Christmas on Wednesday, when the train sweeps around the corner onto the King Edward Bridge and I get my first sight of the bridges it always gives me that tingly feeling.
Berlin
For a man who hates cities (I grew up bang in the middle of London and have tried to escape ever since), I love Berlin, particularly West Berlin before the wall came down. It had a special feel then but still retains something different. It probably helps that I have been visiting and staying in Berlin for some 23 years or so, and have very good German friends there. It also seems to be less rushed than most cities I have experienced so, at a push, if I was forced to live in any city in the world, Berlin would be my choice, with York second.
And is also an affordable place to live
I suspect this may be due to all the bankers being in Frankfurt, but means that the grass roots art scene can thrive in a way that now seems impossible in London
Wellington, NZ
A proper city but small enough to walk around and big enough to have thriving local music, art, comedy and sport.
Weather can be atrocious but often isn't - but even when it is, that makes the many bars, restaurants and cafes all the more inviting.
Has its own funicular cable tram and some households have their own domestic system because their houses are built on a sheer rock face. They travel up and down in a little bucket.
Which brings me to the people. Many of them have a weather-beaten je ne sais quoi that you can spot a mile off. My wife and I enjoy spotting them on the news - "I bet she's from Wellington" and more often than not, the word will appear beneath the name.
1) Rome
2) London
3) Edinburgh
I am a cider drinker
I love, love, love Bath.
This may have something to do with the fact that I lived there for three years while a student, so there are lots of good memories associated with it.
It's easy to become blasé about it if you see it every day, but the architecture is just stunning, even the simplest two-up two-down looks gorgeous compared to most city centre dwellings. Due to the whole city being a World Heritage site, they're very fussy about what gets built - hence no ugly retail park-style buildings; nightclubs and soforth have to be underground.
The first time I ever visited, driving along the A46, you can see the whole city from above - it really takes your breath away.
Plus, there are the Roman Baths, the Royal Crescent, Pulteney Bridge, The Rec, I could go on. I haven't lived there for a couple of years now, but I still visit whenever I get the chance.
Another vote for Bath
If, for some reason, I had to move from Edinburgh, my next UK choice would be Bath. Everything you say is true; it's a real gem.
Our last visit there - admittedly quite some time ago - was enlivened by the Bizarre Tour of Bath, which was a complete hoot.
Bath does it for me too
My daughter has just started there at the Uni as a first year student so we've had the chance to visit. Shame the Uni is up on the hill. The city is gorgeous, big enough (just) but not unmanageable. Problem is, my daughter's not as enamoured with it - hates all that golden-hued stone.
There's cities and cities.
As far as proper, metropolitan cities go, I love Rome. I could never get tired of Rome.
In terms of cities to actually live in, it's pretty humble but I love Lancaster. It's beautiful, it's friendly, it's on the doorstep of the Lake District. It's also the FPO's hometown, and we're planning to move there in a couple of years. I can't wait.
I like Lancaster too
I spent about a year and a half working in that part of the world. There were some really good place to eat and an excellent real ale pub with live music - Ye Old John O'Gaunt.
The John O' Gaunt is great.
Lancaster is pretty well blessed for good pubs, as you say. The Water Witch down by the canal has one of the best beer and whisky selections I've seen, and when we move, I'm agitating to buy a place no more than 2 minutes' walk from it!
Admit it
You just want to be near the North West Massive 8-}
We don't mind meeting in the Water Witch.
Damn right!
I realise there will have to be a quarantine period, but I'm hoping that my Northern passport is approved and that I'll be able to enlist in the NW Massive. I'll try not to talk like Danny Dyer or anything, I promise.
How things have changed
I lived in Lancaster from 89-97 (and worked with Prestonia for some of that time too). As I recall The Water Witch was closed for the second half of Euro 96 because every match shown during the first half resulted in someone being thrown through a window.
The John O'Gaunt was my local, but I preferred it before music took over every night.
Blimey.
It's certainly pulled its socks up, then. Have a look at it now.
Lancaster
is home for me these days and it's a great place to live. The GLW lived in Edinburgh when we met, whilst I was stuck in Preston - when we decided to shack up together employment circumstances dictated that she headed south to move in with me. After about a week she'd had enough and we moved up here instead, (it's a bit like a mini Edinburgh - lots of old stone, nice bars, arty cinema, two theatres and a castle on a hill in the middle).
The Water Witch has a great sister pub called The Sun - dimpled glasses, ace beer, dark corners, etc.
The Sun
Is that in Sun Street?
Off up to Lancaster for Christmas in 8 days. Can't wait.
That's the Sun Cafe Bob
..The Sun Inn's here. Superb rooms too :
http://hotels.yell.com/wl/servlet/xmlbrochure/index.do?hotelid=35428&trk...
Ah, the John
I once had a fling with a barmaid from there while I was at university in Preston. Such memories.
No...
... the John was the one where all the barmaids were blokes in drag - wasn't it?
Are you saying Leanne was
Are you saying Leanne was really Leon?
N'Awlins
then LA. However, all the cities that get mentioned i will undoubtably like as well. But New Orleans every time gets top billing
For music
you just can't beat New Orleans. Nowhere else like it. Avoid Mardi Gras though.....
Sorry, hated every minute of being there......
....and that was pre-Katrina. Nothing against the people, but the place was a dive.
Weird
LA and New Orleans are probably my least favourite cities anywhere, especially the latter.
well i was there
for 6 months pre-katrina.
all about what you're into I guess. people & food,
wherabouts in lA did you stay?
Venice?, Silverlake?, Los Feliz?, the Strip?, Brentwood?, malibu?, santa monica?
big place that LA.
LA
I've been half-a-dozen times or so - generally I'm put up by a friend in Palms, although I've also stayed in Marina del Rey and in Burbank. What I don't like about the city is simply its spread: I like claustrophobic, overbearing cities that are built upwards instead of outwards. It's for the same reason that I prefer Shanghai to Beijing, even though I generally prefer Beijing residents as people.
As for New Orleans, I've only been once, post-Katrina, and haven't seen much beyond the French Quarter and Bourbon St, which I found to be hellish version of Camden High St. It didn't help that a woman was stabbed to death outside my hotel minutes after I arrived, but these things will tend to colour your judgement.
fair enough
yeah it is big. i kinda dont mind the outwards prefer that than the claustraphobia of not seeing the sky.
much like south london then ;).
Not been back since katrina, so can't comment these days.
both fair points though, all good , cheers for the reply!
I'm guessing...
... you've never been to Blackburn.
ewood park?
that's enough for me. not as racist as Burnley though if that floats yer boat
Another vote for Chicago,
love this place - wonderful and very beautiful skyscrapers, the EL tracks, the history, the lake-shore drive, Oak Park to see Frank Lloyd Wright's buildings and I could go on and on. The biting wind was a bit much though, still if I will insist on visiting in November. Also, two contrasting cities in Italy - the madness of Naples (read Gomorrah if you must, but best just to go there and you'll either hate it or love it) and the elegance of Florence (if only the coach parties could stay away, could be even better). Also, living in London you forget what a great city this place is and it is, just wish we could get the transport right.
London transport
I know it's one of a Londoner's favourite pastimes, but is the public transport really that bad?
I did used to work in the biz, so I'm slightly biased, but it seems people fixate on the few negative aspects rather than the many positive ones.
As a general rule, trains, tubes and buses move a large amount of people round the city without major incident. If something goes wrong, the knock-on effects can be huge, but this is because public transport in the capital is so popular, all the services are running at full capacity. If public transport was as bad as everyone made out, surely people wouldn't use it.
Mustn't grumble.
I've been using commuter rail and the Tube for 3 hours a day for a year and a half. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times the system's gone seriously tits up, not counting strikes. In fact, I can count them on the fingers of one of Terry Nutkins's hands.
I think London transport is pretty bloody good. It's expensive, though. My commute costs me £185 a month.
Mainly it's the price I grumble about.
And if you need to use the tube at around 8 in the morning, the overcrowding is truly horrendous. My greatest fear is Northern Line, 0815 am, breakdown in tunnel. I think I'd go postal.
Indeed
I've had that happen to me on the Tyne & Wear Metro. Stood cheek to jowl in the morning rush hour the train stopped dead undergroud and all the lights went off. Quite a few people started freaking out (which was good news for me as bizarrely nothing calms me more than other people panicking). Anyway, we got moving again after a couple of mintues but I got off at the next available stop and walked the rest of the way.
Favourite pastime it may be but with some
reason.
I don't think it should be a matter of pride to say that at least nobody dies, there have been enough incidents of trains being stuck in tunnels, I am not encouraged that there continue to be a lot of 'signal failures' or is this the catch-all excuse for anything that goes wrong ? The fares are damned expensive and rise every year without any discernable rise in the level of service and I can do without inane announcements telling me not to stand the other side of the yellow line (i.e: the tracks). Most announcements are not in the least bit helpful to those who might need them - blind travellers, for instance. I pay a lot of money to use the service and people use it because they have no choice (try parking in central London) and it's not a lifestyle choice. I therefore have every right to fixate on the things that go wrong and to expect more. I will gladly accept that the stations on the Jubilee line extension ( Canary Wharf and Westminster) are things of beauty and the Oyster card is a really good innovation. But, things could and should be a whole lot better.
By comparision, I have lived in Tokyo and the underground & rail system moves a similar number of people (albeit in congested trains) but works a whole lot better than in London and cheaper as well.
the jubilee line
bet it wasn't a weekend...
Ah, Tokyo
As well as being the anagram lover's Kyoto, it's also the answer to London transport's very own Godwin's law. Have an argument about London transport and before long somebody will mention Tokyo. Every. Single. Time.
Tokyo's rail network was built in the 1960s and had enough money invested in it that it isn't mixed-traffic; that is, short-distance passenger trains, long-distance passenger trains and freight trains don't share lines. Also, due to the shape of Japan and the location of Tokyo, trains just run up and down the country.
The UK's rail network was built in Victorian times to cope with the level of traffic of the late 19th Century and has simply been upgraded since. All trains run on the same lines and the popularity of rail travel is such that some sections of the network run at full capacity. Due to the location of London, the UK's rail network is effectively a spider shape, with London as the body, and all lines (or "legs") leading towards the same place.
As I said, it's far from perfect and I agree it's far too expensive but, most of the time, your train arrives on time and gets you to where you want to go when you want to go there. As for overcrowding, the amount of money that would have to be invested to upgrade the rail network to allow more trains and/or carriages is eye-watering. As ridiculous as it sounds, it's probably cheaper to build the new high-speed London-Birmingham line than it would be to update what's already there.
All very true, as it
applies to the rail network and there are many non operational reasons for the less than glorious state of the UK rail system - government mis-mangement and funding - but my concern is the underground system in London. We have the best underground map, the fantastic designs and artwork but the system as it stands at present is, I think, far more from the model hoped for in the 1930's when Frank Pick was at the helm. For a start there was a more of a public service ethos then which I just don't think is the case now (it may sound trivial but why should it be our responsibility to bring a bottle of water on the train in the Summer. Could you not do something about the heat which on some lines is pretty unberable ?). I take your point about Tokyo and do not have your expertise but is there any reason why the most recently built line in London - The Jubilee Line -always appears to be closed the most for engineering works and why the building of the extension was fraught with so many problems ? We can't blame history for this and Paris, a city with an old system, managed to upgrade and have a seemingly more reliable system.
In its defence...
You say: "there have been enough incidents of trains being stuck in tunnels."
There have been two, to be slightly more precise.
maybe because I'd a blissful time at college there
But it's gotta be Galway.
Ah Galway, brings
a glow on a cold morning - what a fine place and that great bookshop, is it still there ?
If you mean Charlie Byrne's,
If you mean Charlie Byrne's, then yes.
If you mean Kenny's then no, it's moved online.
Great city. Useless bit of Galway info: Justin Vernon, aka Bon Iver, once worked in a mobile phone shop for a summer in Eyre Square.
Not a big fan of big cities
So I'd say Bruges. Manageable size, not overwhelming. Excellent chocolate, beer, and mosselen-friet (not in that order though).
“So he's having a really nice time?”
“Well, I'm having a really nice time. I'm not sure it's really his cup of tea.”
“What?”
“You know, I'm not sure it's really his thing.”
“What do you mean it's not really his thing? What's that supposed to mean? It's not really his thing? What the fuck is that supposed to mean?”
“Nothing, Harry.”
“It's a fairytale town, isn't it? How's a fairytale town not somebody's fucking thing?”
Coming Up?
What's up there?
The view.
The view of what? The view of down here? I can see that down here.
Ray, you are about the worst tourist in the whole world.
Ken, I grew up in Dublin. I love Dublin. If I grew up on a farm, and was retarded, Bruges might impress me but I didn't, so it doesn't.
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two manky hookers and a racist dwarf
I "heart" NY and London
But for somewhere different go to South America and try Santiago (wonderful street sculpture everywhere) or Guayaquil which is just simply marvelous.
Is Guayaquil worth a visit then?
Going to Ecuador mainland and Galapagos next year. We have Quito and Cuenca pencilled into our itinerary and could stay off in Guayaquil at the end of the Avenue of the Volcanoes part of our trip. Had heard conflicting views so would love to hear your thoughts.
Agree about Santiago - spectacular backdrop, and clear air. We had a personal guide show my wife, my daughter and myself around the city. He took us back to his house and shared his wine and some truly great empanadas with us. They are very friendly towards the British.
Clear air in Santiago
You were lucky. Santiago is one of the most polluted cities on earth, as it sits in a natural bowl and collects smog that would disperse in other locations. Most locals would say it's the one thing they don't like about their city. Great place, though.
Must have been lucky
We had clear blue skies. I had expected it to be smoggy like La Paz but it wasn't. Fraser, I believe you were also down in Patagonia - did you get to Punta Arenas? Now that is one quirky place.
Yes
I loved Punta Arenas. It's the only place I've ever been where you could buy a crossbow at the airport duty free shop. And that cold air sweeping in from the south... wonderful.
Punta Arenas
Worth visiting just for the cemetery! What a fascinating place, easy to spend a full morning or afternoon there.
Guayaquil has a beautiful and very modern waterfront and exploration brings many rewards. Like all South American cities it has it's dark side but stick to the tourist areas and it is fantastic. If you're a footy fan a match at the Estadio Monumental Banco Pichincha, home of Barcelona Sporting Club is a very memorable experience.
Guayquil
I had a few work trips to Guayaquil back in the mid 1990s and based on that it remains my least favourite city by quite a wide margin!
It's your least favourite city
Just because you had to visit it for work a few times in the mid 90's?
By that logic I suppose Rotherham is my least favourite then!
Five of my favourites
Glasgow - it's home, so I'm biased. Weather is variable, but we've got nice people, great buildings, good restaurants, bars & shopping.
New Orleans - music everywhere, great people, great food and bars.
San Francisco - a brilliant mix of Europe and America, the best bookshops, great places to eat, and one of the best record shops (Amoeba)
New York - breathtaking. Like Glasgow, it has a reputation for rough people but I've found people there to be helpful and kind.
Melbourne - great views, great people, great shops and bars and eateries and trams.
New York
It is obvious and it is cliched but still I *heart* NYC.
Nothing in the world like it. On my first trip over, when I saw the Manhattan skyline come into view from the cab ride on the Long Island Expressway, I confess, I came over quite emotional and I'm sure I had something in my eye.
A few trips on, it still thrills. The people are engaging, the sights and sounds fantastic, the art and musical heritage second to none. There's just something about the places that makes you feel so alive. It's like a 60 watt bulb being replaced by a 100 watt bulb.
Swoon.....
I'd highly recommend anyone going out there to do The Sopranos tour of North Jersey. Great value, great fun - plus there's the additional chance to act out Sonny Corleone's downfall at the Turnpike!
Amsterdam
Beloved of the stag do I know but what a beautiful place at any time of year. Friendly people as well.
Just "be"
Couldn't agree more. Went there last summer during the World Cup. Holland beat Brazil. Big screen at Museumplein. 6 people - the Cradlerock party - not wearing Orange. It was better than the Van Gogh museum is all I'll say. It was a long night.
I could quite happily hang around the Jordaan all day. I don't feel pressured to "do" the museums and the sights. It's a great place to just "be" in.
Also home to one of the great
Rock venues - The Paradiso.
Agreed
I saw the Wedding Present there a few years ago, although it was in one of the upstairs side rooms and from memory it was a very difficult walk down to the toilets after spending most of the day drinking Guiness.
A large pink fluffy rabbit appeared on stage at some point and no I hadn't been smoking anything.
Liverpool
It owns my heart. Some cities you go to, enjoy your stay, send the postcards and then return home. But once you´ve been to Liverpool you can never leave.
I've been to Liverpool a couple of times
I left both times...
If you left both times
You must have returned at least once.*
*Exactly once, sir.
*whistles Pomp And Circumstance*
Speaking as a Woolyback
..I would probably have agreed with you. Until my daughter went to University there. Once you get to know the place a little it's fantastic. Mind you she does live on Penny Lane. (ok..just around the corner to be honest). I like the place now. Can't understand a word the natives say though
Before Grunge...
I first visited Seattle in about 1990, just before grunge exploded. I'd chosen it as one of the few destinations available to travellers with Polo Express, an international courier firm. I fell in love with the place on sight, and have been on two subsequent occasions. Geographically, it's a bit like a mini San Francisco, in that it's very hilly, and the roads parallel to the seafront are steeply tierd, rather like the Frisco roads, with the perpendicular ones sometimes extremely steep. It's surrounded by some beautiful countryside, especially to the north. And a boat trip off the coast takes you through scores of lush, green islands. It was my fantasy, when I'd made it filthy rich, to live in a big house on one of the islands, and have a chauffeured boat to bring me back in the evenings from Seattle's superb nightlife. The art gallery is fantastic and there are terrific restaurants and pubs with micro-breweries. The first time I went, the public transport system was so enlightened that it was free in the centre of the town.
What really made it was the atmosphere and the people. Oh, and I used to go to a great little coffee house, Starbucks I think it was called. I wonder if it's still going.
I love Vancouver too, beautiful place. And Hobart, Tasmania, which I found highly simpatico.
I can't imagine living anywhere other than London, mind!
Ancient Greek memories
Just before grunge I met a couple of guys from Seattle in Greece. They told everyone how terrible it was - out of the way, rainy, grey. After knowing them a couple of days they opened up and admitted they thought it was the best place in the world - they just didn't want lots of people visiting it and ruining it. Ooops - nirvana.
Favourite cities: Edinburgh (got married there - best pub in the world is between the Canny Man's and the Cafe Royal).
San Francisco - after a few days there we all started looking for jobs. Didn't find any suitable so it was back to Teesside. Why did I do that?
Dubai is fascinating because it changes every year.
Don't bother ever visiting Hull. Or Middlesbrough. Unless it is for a game.
Athens of the North
Another vote for Edinburgh from me. I've experinced many a fantastic hogamany in the city. The castle, Holyrood Palace and Botanical Gardens, Calton Hill all being on the must do list (along with a pint in the cafe royal)
Honourable mentions also to...
Krakow
Newcastle
New York
Venice
Barcelona
Paris
Memphis
Home of Elvis and the Ancient Greeks.
And of course Sun Studios, McLemore Avenue, The Peabody, Beale Street, the Gibson factory, etc etc...
Yes, a lot of the city is now a bit 'theme park' but there is still more good, free, music than just about anywhere else.
Oh, and the ribs (wet or dry) and the barbecue is to die for.
Not been to Nashville or Nawlins so can't compare - but I love Memphis.
All true
I would add Willie Mitchell's Royal Studio if you want to see a working studio. Contact them first though.
Memphis for me sits in the middle. NOLA tops with Nashville bottom.
All true
I would add Willie Mitchell's Royal Studio if you want to see a working studio. Contact them first though.
Memphis for me sits in the middle. NOLA tops with Nashville bottom.
Turin...
...amazing architecture. Fantastic food. Cocktail hour. Fashionable clothes. Surrounded by the Alps with mountains seemingly at the bottom of every street.
And a side vote for Antwerp, all of the above +beer -mountains.
London
But also Bristol, Jerusalem, Istanbul and Prague.
Just a few
For it´s winding, narrow streets and sense of history: Toledo
a city that feels like a village: Madrid
for it´s magnificence and grandeur : London
for it´s pretty women and charm and the Danube: Budapest
for the best nights out: Leon ( north of Spain )
Barcelona
Can't believe no one's mentioned Barcelona yet: utterly beautiful, loads of culture (Gaudi and Miro head of the queue), great wining and dining to be had in the many tapas bars, a fine party town, and it has beaches. My favourite city by far.
Barcelona, nah!!
Wonderful city but too many thieves. We got our camera stolen and I know many others who suffered the same experience in this city.
Barcelona
Strangely I still love the place inspite of having my wallet lifted on the way to the airport , and being very publically propositioned by a lady of the "love for rent" on a fairly main thoroughfare .
An experience all too sadly and frequently repeated.
The number of people that I know personally as well as FOAFs who have been lifted in one way or another in Barcelona is way above anywhere else that I've heard of. Maybe the best response - apart from the usual tactics to keep yourself and your possessions safe - is to doff your cap at the expertise of experienced pros and make sure it doesn't happen again.
I got badly mugged in Tangier, if that's any consolation.
Hong Kong
Watching the sun go down from Victoria Peak has to be one of the most stupendous views on Earth. My personal highlight was taking a very long bumpy busride to a place called Tai-O, a fishing village that had not changed in 500 years (except for the occasional "Drink Coke" signs)
I later found out it was about 5 miles from the Airport.
Agree Hong Kong
Where east and west really do meet, wandering round the market streets in Kowloon, amazing sights and smells & of course the Star Ferry trips across Victoria Harbour.
Loved it so much almost moved there few years ago, only problems with family stopped us
Oxford...
...I love Edinburgh too, but I'm a sucker for the whole bookshop-central / Inspector Morse / dreaming spires / Tolkieniana mystique of Oxford. Any time I've visited (maybe only 3 or 4 times, from memory, all for only a day a time) I've managed to spend the bulk of the time in Blackwells or Borders (as was). You must understand, coming from NI - where large bookshops are non existant - that this is a big deal. I'd love to live there. I'd love to have enough money to live there...
Tallinn
Absolutely fell in love with the place.
Medieval historical centre ringed by a more modern town. Incredible architecture and astonishing cultural collisions, thanks to neighbours kicking the country around like a football.
It helps if you're a bit of a history junkie - visiting the Soviet war memorial directly next door to a cemetery used by the Nazis can send chills down the spine. As well as a specially built museum (all the other museums in Tallinn were housed in existing buildings) dealing solely with Estonia's history of occupation.
Beautiful location at the 'top of Europe', with the harbour looking north to Helsinki (only a boat ride away).
Brilliant.
London
In 1992, I was studying for a couple of A Levels at a college in the London borough of Kensington. Travelling up to Gloucester Road tube every morning I became aware that the capital was much larger than I had previously imagined; the small pieces of it that I knew were tiny islands connected by god only knows what.
My interest sparked, I bought Secret London by Andrew Duncan and started attending the public lectures at Gresham College in Holborn. I saw the pianist, Joanna MacGregor, demonstrate John Cage’s prepared piano, in which heavy nuts and bolts are inserted at precise points in between the strings, transforming it into a weird percussion instrument. I saw Richard Holloway – then the Bishop of Edinburgh - expound on his secularised version of Christianity. Later at a book launch hosted by the college, he became probably the only bishop ever to quote the fervently anti-Christian philosopher, Friedrich Nietzsche, in a positive context before a roomful of senior clergy. He remains a compassionate and thoughtful man. The church could do with more like him.
I bought another Andrew Duncan guidebook titled Walking London. I‘ve followed all those walks, many of them several times. Simon Pope’s pocket-sized book London Walking outlined a journey in which you select a row from the city-wide grid map at the very front of the London A-Z and then walk from east to west, from sunrise to sunset, staying within the confines of the pages you have chosen. In this way you not only traverse a geographical cross-section of the city, but also a cross-section of a day in the life of the city - from the predawn deliveries of fruit and vegetables to the outlying grocers and supermarkets, to the bitter-sweet, post-work migration to the suburbs that Damon Albarn documented so well in his song Best Days. I used to do Simon Pope’s walk every year. It would always piss down with rain that would dissolve the binding in my A-Z. I would return home minus the front cover, my bag stuffed with loose, badly-wrinkled pages.
I still like to wander the streets of London; sit on the damp, snowy benches in the freezing cold and eat my poorly conceived sandwiches out of their Clingfilm wrapping. East London by the Thames feels more like home than Southend, where I have lived on-and-off for most of my life.
In a disused church in Dartmouth I chanced upon a second-hand copy of HV Morton’s anthologised London newspaper columns. Eventually I laid my hands on a meta-anthology containing three collections (I still haven’t tracked down ‘The Ghosts of London’). I keep it in a drawer next to my bed and read it often. Morton used his columns to paint vivid snapshots of London life: The homeless old lady asleep in the crypt under St Martin in the Fields, the young men who jointly rescued a child’s balloon from the ceiling of a teahouse, and the woman who called from the crowd at the wedding of a minor royal “Good luck dear,” have all passed away. If the boy who told his nanny that one day he would marry his sister is still alive, he would be very old now. I wonder if the little girl who embraced the puppy that had just been given to her and called it “Darling” is still with us and, if so, whether she still thinks about that dog.
Morton touched on a basic truth about the city – that it’s big enough and steeped in enough history to dilute tragedy or joy of any magnitude down to nothing. It’s the cumulative weight of all that human experience that becomes overwhelming when you think about it.
I love London. A couple of years ago I decided that I wanted to put my feelings about the city into words. Not in the way that you dash something off, post it online, and then, a few weeks, later forget that you ever wrote it. Instead something that would require an investment of time and effort and wouldn’t be good enough but would be honest. I’m a lousy historian so I made it all up. It’s not a flippant intellectual exercise in how far you can take an idea. It’s London remixed, but the essence is still pure London.
That's a neat
little love letter to the city and thanks for the hint on that London Walking book, looks interesting.
"poorly conceived sandwiches"
Amongst a crowded field, that's one of your funniest and best phrases. Up arrow more than earned (again).
"It's London remixed..."
I'd very much like to read that, Backwards. I loved reading this post.
Lovely piece..
thanks for that Backwards. I'm down there on Thursday and Friday and I'm looking forward to the trip twice as much now.
You should try and track down a copy of this : http://www.amazon.co.uk/London-Perceived-V-S-Pritchett/dp/0141014199/ref...
There's a cracking walk through the Royal Parks
That'll take you from Whitehall (St James' Park) to Marble Arch ( Hyde Park) and guess what? You only cross one road to get there. Yep, it can be done, and I should know because I walked it in 1979.
Btw, have an up for yet another delightful post from the mighty quill of Backwards. Hats Off, gentlemen! Hats Off!
There are many cities that I have come to love.
They include: in the UK: London, Oxford, Norwich (which hardly ever gets mentioned in this kind of context, but is a really lovely city); in the USA: New York, San Francisco, Boston.
But my very favourite city is: York. I was an undergraduate there &, after a gap of over twenty years, went back recently, and realised how much I love the place. Wherever you are in the city centre, your eye falls on something old, mysterious, beautiful or interesting. I would love to move back there.
Happily exiled in York
Quite chuffed really. Lancaster, my hometown, is further up the thread and my current home is here. Nice to know that other people like them as much as I.
Obviously I tell everyone at work that Yorkshire a hateful place but really I love this city. It's only flaw is that it is too flat and that Track Records closed down (it is not a good place to buy new music). Then again, anywhere with this many good pubs can't be bad.
Totally agree about Norwich.
I've lived in this part of the world for the past 15 years, give or take a couple of years when I de-camped to Essex, and there are few lovelier and greener cities than Norwich.
There is a hidden history to Norwich that few outside the City know: that it was the major financial centre in the 17th and 18th Centuries (and indeed the birthplace of modern banking), about the plague pits and tunnels, and one of the finest preserved medieval centres in England. I love it, but don't tell anyone or they'll all want to come here.
Absolutely fucking shocking football team, mind.
Newcastle
'cause it's home.
I have an enormous affection for Newcastle.
Having gone to university in the NE, gigged a good few times in Newcastle and pressed my nose up against its guitar shops' windows any number of times, it's definitely up there in my top ten. Wonderful city.
My hometown
He types, sitting in Berkshire.
Broonsaalroond!
JG Windows of the Arcade. Where I bought dozens and dozens of guitar picks.
Grainger Market. I had a Saturday morning job working for my Aunt and Uncle, helping them sell eggs and poultry from a trestle table opposite The Tripe Shop. I would sit on the bus home with my nostrils filled with the reek of sawdust and broken egg white-sticky.
the Toon
Wandered up from London in 86 and now would not live anywhere else .
Lisboa
I couldn't see if anyone had mentioned this before(?) I visited it about five years ago, and loved it. The Alfama is especially beautiful - it feels as if it hasn't changed all that much since Medieval times.
Agree about Edinburgh; it's beautiful and slightly melancholy at the same time, which appeals to me.
Helsinki
I've visited there more than anywhere else and it's so manageable and so cosy. Great bars and restaurants, nice shops, especially in the snow.
On an equal footing: Copenhagen. So utterly civilised.
Otherwise Stockholm, New York, Tokyo, Amsterdam, Chicago and Paris.
Helsinki
I'm no traveller (as I've mentioned on here before) but one place I'd really like to visit is Finland.
Don't go in Winter
..because it's cold like no cold I have ever felt before. But in the summer its fantastic. Not quite land of the Midnight Sun but as near as damn it. Helsinki is a bit dull. Turku is better.
But the best thing about Finland is the countryside. Not much smaller than France with the population of Ireland. So much space. Language is a bit tricky but "kaksi olutta" and "kiitos" got me a long way. Apologies to any Finnish speakers on spelling by the way.
Cold
Surely not as cold as Newcastle? As for the language, I was hoping I could just say Kimi Raikkonen or Sami Hyypia and hold my thumbs aloft!
Stockholm is beautiful in the summer
which is from July 6 to July 13. It´s a great city for long walks and so is Copenhagen.
In Sweden we think the Danes are constantly drunk because they can by beer everywhere. The Danes think Swedes are constantly drunk because we mainly go to Denmark for one reason - you can buy beer everywhere. These days they spray beer at you on the streets, that´s what I´ve heard.
The Ferry
Don't know what it's like these days but the Ferry from Stockholm to Turku is an experience. Not for the faint hearted.
'It means something to me'
Great choice, man, I lived in Helsinki for 3.5 years, a wonderful city, all the usual trappings of a capital city but contained within the area the size of a small town.
To anyone who's not been there, the old part of town about the Esplanadi / Bulevardi avenues looks great at any time of the year, especially during the summer - its so far north, at night it doesn't really get dark, its just a short period of near-dusk followed by usually hot weather and clear cerulean skies like you've never seen before. I once, further north, watched the sun come over the horizon there at 3am - god help those poor bleeders up in the Arctic Circle, must drive 'em batshit!
Best bits of it for me - the Torni restaraunt with its white marble art-deco interior, Cafe Kapelli with its microbrewery on the Esplanadi, Cafe Stringberg, Senate Square (so like St Petersburg it doubled for it in Warren Beatty's 'Reds'), the nearby Akatemia bookshop with its Alvar Aalto-designed coffeeshop, and the marina-lined seafront down by Merikatu. And of course my favouritest old watering hole of William K's on Annankatu.
Worked a few times in Copenhagen too - eating lunch in Nyhavn on a blistering hot day remains a strong memory. As does the weird bread / meat / gherkins / beetroot combo-melange that I reluctantly gulped down!
Favourite city though is Vienna - the cafes, the art museums (Klimmt-central), the mittel-European old-empire architecture, the food, even dared the local vino (antifreeze-frei since 1985, decent Rieslings), never did find any Viennese blues being played a la 'Dritte Mann' (though got to go on the Riesenstad ferris wheel, looking down on all the 'ants') but we did get to watch a giant screen behind the Rathaus showing a live broadcast of an opera that the local bigwigs were attending in some Alpy-schloss probably called the 'Eagles Roost'. ... and the (right, better type this care-ful-ly) : Kunsthaus. Phew, no Naughtie-stylee moment there!
BR
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Also Reykjavik
Hard to believe it is a Capital City - small enough to walk around easily and has some quaint ways about it.
Quite fancy Bergen, anyone been there and can recommend it?
Bergen is lovely, but
1. it always rains there - and I mean always. It is, I think, officially the rainiest city in Europe.
2. it is, like the rest of Norway, shockingly expensive.
It is extremely beautiful, though.
The official Bergen joke
A visitor has been in Bergen for a few days and is a bit cheesed off because it has rained throughout his stay. He turns and asks a small boy "Does it always rain in Bergen?" The boy replies "I don't know, I'm only fourteen".
Raymo's description of Bergen is spot on by the way.
Count me in for Reykjavik too; anywhere where you can get a decent coffee then sit and drink it while looking across the ocean at snow-capped mountains can't be all bad.
I like Bergen
OK, it does rain a bit but not incessantly and when it is fine, it is spectacular. As they are surrounded by mountains they don't have the amount of wind we get in Stavanger, which is also a nice city by the way.
Most surprising city
that I've visited so far is Moscow.
Spent 10 days there, plus 3 in St Petersburg, in 1999. In my ignorance I thought I'd find a place filled with grim, shonky concrete towers. They do exist but crikey moses the historic centre is one of the most colourful places in the world. The Kremlin and its environs are painted in the lightest pastel colours; lemon, lilac, green, pink etc. It looks like Queer Eye For the Straight Guy were given a civic commission.
Flippancy aside it is (or was - never been back since) a delightful sight. Couple all those colours to the shimmering whites and golds of the Orthodox Cathedrals which festoon the place and it's breathtaking on a sunny day.
I concurr
St Petersburg is stunning. Spent some time there with work and its absolutely gob smacking. Moscow is too. The area Beezer talks about is fascinating. But I didn't feel too confortable off the beaten track.
Russians are surprisingly open and friendly people. Yes I know that's patronising but I really wasn't expecting that.
They are very open.
As has been mentioned in another thread a while ago there is a vast chasm between the haves and have nots which was starting to broaden when I was there.
Branches of Gucci - doing a roaring trade - within the GUM building outside of which old ladies would be standing on corners selling their own (or at least some very old) shoes.
We stayed with friends in their apartment on the Garden Ring, which is more than anything a vast version of the roundabout at the Arc De Triomphe encircling the entire Moscow city centre. 8 lanes of knackered Lada taxis barrelling along 24/7. Think 'Demolition Derby' and you'll have the gist.
Favourites are..
Cape Town for its wondrous situation,
Boston for its oldishness (by US standards),
Venice for its strangeness,
Dublin for its pubs,
Amsterdam for its quaint wealthiness,
Bristol and Bath and Brighton for their Britishness (in a nice way),
Berlin for its lippy talk, genuinely humourous,and
Belfast for its warm-heartedness (really!).
Dublin used to be my favourite
But last time I went it was the same as any other place, all McDonalds, Gap and Starbucks. I'm sure the old Dublin is still there but I didn't see it. I used to go to The Summit pub in Howth which was mentioned in one of Roddy Doyles books. Anyone know if it is still there?
Howth
it was in 2004 when I went there. I love Howth Head, wonderful cliffside walks
The Howth train
The first time I went to Dublin I took the Dart train out to Howth. I'd been coached in the pronunciation, so I was full of confidence as I strode up to the information desk and asked, 'Which train do I need for Howth?'
She looked at me, paused, and drawled, 'That would be the Howth train.'
"Which train do I need...?"
No wonder she rumbled you.
Now if you'd said:
"Which train would I be needin'...?"
You'd have been fine.
It's a close run thing
San Francisco, which was completely not what I expected of America when I first went there in 1990 and that was my entree, but then everywhere else I went in America was nothing like I expected either....except Daytona Beach perhaps. But SF - beer, food, wine, skiing (reasonably close anyway), atmosphere. Used to have jobs too....
Dunedin NZ, but I went when it was warm and I'm told that's not necessarily representative. Kind of like San Fran in the 40's or 50's, but as a small college town. One of the friendliest places I've ever been and was serious about moving there till I found out the weather patterns.
And Sydney. Can't imagine why I'd live anywhere else unless I was forced to. Wanted to come here since I was 8 (circa 1970) and it didn't disappoint.
done Sydney
4 times now, dont bother people, go to Melbourne a nice claret as opposed to sydney's Lidl own brand vino rouge.
Good call on 'cisco . Noise Pop well worth spending a week of your hard earned
as for daytona beach got car jacked there in '88,,, so will always be an interesting place for me!
I can understand that.
I would probably struggle to make a short term visitor fall in love with the place, unlike a Venice or a New York perhaps. But I had the choice of anywhere in the world, and a job+girl in San Fran, and still came back to Sydney. The key thing is that I can't think of anywhere else I'd 'live' unless forced. I'll quite happily visit and love loads of other places. As mentioned by others, Norway has a very strong place in my affections (Stavanger, Hamer, Oslo among others) to the point I seriously though about learning the language, Hamburg has a pre/sans-kids lifestyle I love, but you'd still only get me out of Sydney with a crowbar.
And I'd sooner move to New Zealand than Melbourne, much as I like visiting. I don't know why either, but I've nailed my colours to the mast. Probably the tempo and the temperature. I'm just not so keen on freezing, which is what I'll be doing in the UK from Tuesday....
I'd also point out one strange coincidence - having lived in San Fran and Sydney for a while, they were both extensively populated by out of towners and ex-pats, and both took me a hell of a long time to get to know anyone local. In Sydney it took years to get to know Sydneysiders, and 20 years later I still know more people from country Australia, Brisbane and Melbourne than I do Sydney born and bred. Not that they're stand offish or anything, just a factor in the environment, that you're more likely to meet a tourist or a non-local for better or worse....
can I put a word in for..
Venice - romantic city par excellence and a great city to just "be" in
Manchester - ok. It's near home but I love it
Paris - see Venice.
Stockhom - especially the old parts. Beautiful. A tad expensive though
Prague - see Stochom. but much much cheaper.
York - helps if you're into history as I am.
Lisbon - very underrated. Great food. But vegetarians could starve
Weirdly...
...I hated Venice. I mean, it's fascinating and beautiful, but it was filthy and utterly stank when I went. I've rarely been as disappointed by a place.
depends on time of year
I've been 4 times. First time was in August and it stunk to high heaven. Second visit was done reluctantly as the FPOs insistence. It was late April and it was beautiful.
Ah, Venice! I'm Surprised That Isn't More Of A First Choice,
Given that it is the most gloriously improbable creation to grace the planet. Built on hundreds of thousands of tree trunks driven into swampland on innumerable small islands, Venice in its pomp must have been truly breathtaking. Classical facades and stunning marble interiors were being thrown up over a thousand years ago while
the rest of Northern Europe was living in mud huts.
Small wonder then that when overseas traders turned up hoping to earn a crust, they just stood there and gawped.
Munich...
... FPO's hometown - my favourite place - easy (like a Sontag Morgen).
Manchester hooray! Leeds boo!
I love the mix of old and new buildings in Manchester (Bridgewater Hall and Manchester Central/Urbis and Victoria station), the mix of areas and 'quarters' (Chinatown and Northern Quarter) and how they all fit together so well in a city that's easy to get around.
I'm always fond of Sheffield - the way it always tries something new, not always without government cash (the Winter Garden and the Olympic Pool) and the lovely walk-up from the train station and its fountains through the art gallery and gardens to the city centre.
London is endlessly fascinating. Using an A-Z and the Good Beer Guide, I never failed to be amazed by how it changed within a train ride or even a 30 minute walk - from the bustle of Oxford Street to the peace of Mayfair, from dirty, lively Hackney to the cobbled streets of Hampstead with carol singers outside the boozers, from grim Bethnal Green to the sterile City with its huge glass buildings.
Leeds is Britain's most overrated city - Wakefield with delusions of grandeur and good PR. Ooooh they've got a Harvey Nicks. Whoop-di-do!
Yes it does have some lovely buildings and shops - and a few nice pubs. But the city's dominated by identikit bars, overpriced flats and some spectacularly ugly office buildings.
Leeds Hooray!
It's not beautiful, it's not historic and it's not famous but it's a great place to live - all the convenience of a city and nothing north of it until you get to Edinburgh, provided you stay in the hills...
Leeds is ok but
It is ruined by the football club it has spawned, it just discolours everything. I much prefer Sheffield but I am somewhat biased as I live there , neither would top my list though. Of all the places visited I go for New York although I would probably not want to live there. London I dislike, although certain bits are stunning, it is horrible to get around and I generally cannot wait to leave.
So
nowhere cuts the mustard then?
Fair point, but home is home
Fair point, but home is home and you get used to the way of life. Of other places, I could live in would probably be Newcastle (great people) & York (just a nice place). The ultimate contradiction with cities is that often what makes them great to visit would fade with long-term residence.
Curiously enough...
...I was at Elland Road on Saturday, in the QPR end. Leeds fans are generally unpleasant in my experience - horrible sense of entitlement, bitter about Man U and just about anyone else, and generally menacing en masse. One Hoops fan was reading a book in the queue for a half time pie, and I bet that virtually never happens at Elland Road...
Harsh to judge a city by it's football club, however.
My team (Huddersfield Town)
My team (Huddersfield Town) shared a league with Leeds for a couple of seasons and I was thoroughly sick of their fans talking about how it is like a 'cup final' to play the 'mighty whites'. Ok, they had some success in te 60's and 70's but actually won very little compared to other 'big clubs'.
Leeds fans & entitlement
I think we may have got rid of that since about 1976. I supported them for 37 years and all I have is a horrible sense of foreboding. That seems to be shared by most of the Leeds fans I know and talk to at games. But would we let the opposition know this at a game?
All I ever used to hear from
All I ever used to hear from Leeds fans was, 'well it's their cup final' and other such claptrap. I appreciate that I have only really been exposed to the most rabid of the breed through internet fans forums etc.
Leeds fans
A few years ago, on a visit to Leeds to see inlaws, was taken to Elland Road. Not a football fan by any means but had one of the most enjoyable afternoons of my life surrounded by thousands of "forthright and outspoken" Leeds fans as they were spanked 4-1 by Arsenal.
Then went to Brooklands in Barnsley and had possibly the best meal I've ever eaten in the British Isles.
Merry Christmas one and all.
Kyoto
Spent time there on our honeymoon and I loved it...fascinating history and great food, and good transport system.
The friendliest people I have met.
Sydney for me
Having moved to Sydney 6 months ago after 30 years in London i'm just loving it here. Much easier to get to gigs and all the bands do festival warm-ups at small venues the best of which is The Enmore in Newtown.
Damon Albarn said last night at the Gorrilaz gig that he loved this city so there you go. Mind you, he probably said that in Brisbane as well.
Sydney has some great art deco architecture, graet beaches and stunning views and a fantastic food and coffee culture. Plus it's the safest place i've ever lived. I do miss London and british humour though which is why this blogsite is a godsend. Still buying The Word although it's hellish expensive for the latest issues.
Austin, Texas
Got to say it's hard to beat Austin. Relaxed, vibrant music and arts scene and the weather is great (25c this week? And it's their winter). Got a real skyline and Texans are soooo hospitable. People I know there complain that the summer's too hot, but I guess you don't appreciate the weather unless you get the contrasts like we do in the UK.
Tons of space, nice lakes area, and it's a short drive from the beautiful Texas Hill Country. Good food if you enjoy Texan barbecue and Tex Mex.
House prices would make the average Brit weep. Haven't experienced any red-neck mentality yet but I daresay it exists - it's Texas. And of course SXSW and Austin City Limits on the doorstep.
Why
hasn't Florence got a mention yet? The art, the buildings, the food, the very beautiful people
'Cos everyone seems to think her album's shit?
San Francisco
A wonderful place and very different from LA or the ususal image of California. A great setting and a relaxed atmosphere and great food. Has a slightly European feel to it although it is as about as far as you can get in America from Europe in distance
Seconded
I was pleasantly surprised by San Francisco. Quite laid back but feels clean and fresh at the same time.
Top five
Big Cities:
New York - exciting, interesting and never, ever dull.
London - wonderful as long as you don't commute there and are as rich as Croesus.
Barcelona - not least because being at the top of Tibidabo having a beer at http://www.mirablaubcn.com/ is brilliant.
Cape Town - Table Mountain. A mountain in thee middle of a city - genius.
Berlin - it's got everything you could want (except mountains).
Small cities:

Seville - small, welcoming and hot in the Winter.
Bruges - preserved in aspic and all the better for it.
Edinburgh - a history lesson on every corner.
York - what England would have been like if there was no industrial revolution
Christchurch, NZ - Because you can have this view
and live less than thirty minutes from the centre of town.
Mirablau
could have saved yourself a fortune,fridge,5 minute walk away is a much cheaper place with better views. For fantastic views,climb up to the radio towers in Parc Guinardo, free and they'll be nobody there except me reading a book.
Newcastle
My hometown, but still..Small enough to feel you own it, but loads going on.
Bangkok, where I lived for 4 years and still visit at least twice a year passing through to my permanent gaff, which is in Southern Thailand - flthy and overcrowded, yes, but endlessly fascinating.
Question:
How long do you have to spend in a city to truly know it? I tend to raise an eyebrow when people visit somewhere for a fortnight on holiday, visit a few galleries and restaurants, then claim to have 'done' it.
I'd say that to know a place, you have to live there.
Like that 'Onion' headline..
'woman Who Loves Brazil Has Only Seen 4 sq.km Of It'
Why I didn't put down Edinburgh - some of my greatest memories are from there, but I've never spent more than a weekend..
Melbourne
is certainly one of my favourite places to be. All the best aspects of pan-Mediterranean culture in a Pacific setting redolent of the Northern California coast. Lovely. Great pubs, good eatin', excellent live music culture and probably the best coffee in he world.
I don't have as much to compare it with as many of the people who have posted their views on a diverse range of great-sounding places.
Never go to Kilmarnock though. If the chip fat and fags don't kill you the razor to your wrists will.