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I'm thinking of buying my first bike for over 25 years. Things seemed to have changed. It was all 12 speed gears, GT handlebars, razor thin tyres and equally thin saddles when I was last in the market for one. Now it all seems to be mountain, hybrid, hardtail. . . .

So, can the Word Massive point me in the right direction?

I'm looking for something that I can pootle around on residential streets (to the shops etc), along cycle paths at the local park with my daughter (I'm fed up running to keep up with her!), the local canal towpath and maybe slightly more adventurous local cycle paths in the future. I may even commute occasionally if I'm brave.

My limited research has so far concluded the following

- Go to a bike shop not Asda
- Make sure you get the right size frame (top bar measurement)
- Test ride some bikes if you can
- Giant, Kona and Trek are reputable brands.

I have about £300 to spend. Any recommendations? How much should go on the bike, how much on accessories, helmet, lock, etc?

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Hybrid

I reckon it's a hybrid bike you want. A mountain bike will be too sluggish on the road for you, and a road bike or racing bike won't like the rougher cycle paths (canal towpaths tend to be a bit gravelly and rocky).

Definitely go to a proper bike shop (not Halfords), and go to one where they will not only sell you the bike but set it all up and service it for you, preferably with another service after a few weeks to check everything is in order. You can get a decent Trek bike with your budget and have change for accessories (they'll probably bung a few goodies in with the bike if you're lucky).

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Dr Volume | 13 April 2010 - 1:31am

Seconded

Hybrids are the biz.

Unless you are thinking about plunging down mountain bike trails regularly, you probably don't need something with suspension; it'll just slow you down, especially on hills.

Aside from that, the usual advice is to go for as light a bike as you can afford.

Something like this:
http://www.edinburghbicycle.com/ebwPNLqrymode.a4p?f_ProductID=12410&f_Su...

Or this:

http://www.edinburghbicycle.com/ebwPNLqrymode.a4p?f_ProductID=11585&f_Fu...

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Lando Cakes | 13 April 2010 - 9:03pm

I've just ordered up a

I've just ordered up a Revolution Courier Race Disc on the Bike to Work scheme, adding a rack, mudguards and a kick-stand.
This is to replace my Edinburgh hybrid, that's lasted me about 12 years of pretty much daily use, so I'd agree with the hybrid advocates: quicker than mountain-bike wheels; more comfortable; sturdy in the urban environment.
Discs seem like a good weather-proofing idea. I'd have got hub gears, too (for the same reason), had they been compatible with the ordered bike.

Anyway, bikes are a good way of commuting: you know how long it'll take you to get around and parking's easy!

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iainiain | 13 April 2010 - 11:53pm

Weight

If your main purpose is to get from A to B rather than as a keep fit tool then look at the weight. No point in pushing about more than you have to.

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JohnW | 13 April 2010 - 7:19am

cycling to work

If you're thinking of riding to work occasionally, and you work for a large enough organisation, then you might be able to get a bike practically half price - worth asking about.
I'd probably go for a 'hardtail' mountain bike if you're thinking of having a go at some local trails. A friendly local bike shop should be able to help you navigate the jargon. I wouldn't actually get too hung up on the brand, though. There are lots and if you go to a decent shop they'll probably be Ok. Giant make very good bikes in your pricerange. Feel free to post any you're considering. I'm sure there are plenty of us who'd give it the once-over.

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Lying Doggo | 13 April 2010 - 7:48am

Thank you. I might just do

Thank you. I might just do that. Fantastic advice from the Massive as always.

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eddie | 13 April 2010 - 7:14pm

Bike 2 Work

Meant to post this before - a link to the Bike 2 Work scheme. (There are others.) Might be worth trying to persuade your employer to sign up?

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Red Umpire | 13 April 2010 - 7:53pm

Whatever bike you choose...

...get yerself a rear-view mirror. Being able to see what's coming up behind you (and how near they're likely to get) allows you to plan your manoevers way in advance and can literally be a life-saver. However, avoid mirrors that are too convex as they make everything look miles away right up to the point when it wallops you. Jim Blackburn seem to make the best ones.

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Ipsie Dixit | 13 April 2010 - 9:58am

I agree...

... about the importance of a rear-view mirror.

Blackburn mirrors are the easiest to find in shops, but hopelessly fragile, in my expensive experience. The Mirrycle is harder to find but I've never broken one yet, whereas my three Blackburns lasted about a week each.

The other essential item I would recommend is a high-visibility jacket.

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Inky Fingers | 13 April 2010 - 8:11pm

I didn't know about the Mirrycle.

And as you say, the Blackburn ones - although good mirrors (with real glass and a good angle of view) - break if your bike falls over and the plastic mounting bracket shatters. Mine last rather longer than a week, but I do seem to get through one a year. And Blackburn don't provide any spare brackets do they? Oh noooo!

Still, having had a look at the Mirrycle's STI-mounted jobby, they'll certainly get my vote next time! Thank you for that.

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Ipsie Dixit | 13 April 2010 - 8:33pm
stimpy | 13 April 2010 - 8:37pm

...and a dolly in a basket

...and a dolly in a basket on the back. Lovely.

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eddie | 13 April 2010 - 11:33pm
stimpy | 14 April 2010 - 7:03am

£300 in a proper bike shop

buys a decent bike. Specialized or Trek are both good value at that price - £300 gets an aluminium frame with front suspension. I would suggest a mountain bike type but maybe look at having the shop swap the knobbly tyres for a a more road friendly type if you are rarely going off road. Get a little saddle bag, a spare inner tube and some puncture repair sticky patches. And buy a helmet and some gloves for when you fall off.

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Leedsboy | 13 April 2010 - 11:20am

Marin

I use a Marin Novato (hybrid) for exactly the sort of cycling you plan to do, though I try to cycle to work at least once a week. I'm not sure what the price is as it was a 40th birthday present from my wife. I love riding it though.

Recommendations:

- go to your local bike shop - you'll get much better service and they'll sell you a bike that's suitable for you, not one to meet their sales targets.

- I'd agree with Dr Volume and would recommend a hybrid, but the guys in the shop will be better able to advise you.

- if you're going to cycle in the dark or even just in poor weather conditions, buy the best lights you can afford.

- if you plan to lock your bike up in public places, buy the best lock you can afford.

- not sure about helmets. I wear one - mainly to make sure that my kids do when they're on their bikes - but my mate who's an ardent cyclist doesn't. He says they've been shown to be of great benefit to kids involved in bike accidents, but not for adults. I don't know what his sources are.

- I'd definitely buy gloves too, as Leedsboy suggests: fingerless for summer; full for winter. Badly grazed palms can be bloody sore!

- if you get tubed tyres, get the shop to put Stan's No-Tubes in them - it'll cost around £50 but will save you the headaches caused by punctures, flats etc. More info here.

Enjoy your cycling!

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Red Umpire | 13 April 2010 - 11:56am

Writing from experience

I would always wear a helmet now. Whilst unlikely to be much help in a major crash they do offer graze and whiplash protection for small spills.

In the last few years I've come off twice, once without a helmet and the other with. The first, I went over the handlebars, fortunately at low speed, broke my sunglasses, received a black eye and grazes to forehead and cheek. For the second I hit a patch of wet leaves at speed and slid on sideways for several metres. The extension of the helmet stopped my neck muscles from stretching and prevented the obvious impact with the ground.

Agree with gloves. Get out there and enjoy.

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Phil Pirrip | 13 April 2010 - 11:49am

Sounds like

you're after what I was looking for...

Went to my nearest Evans branch - really clued up, friendly and not in any way pushy staff.

Bought this bad boy (for a bit of tootling, parks etc) - got helmet, luminous jacket, decent lock and lights on top and it came in just over £300

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/dawes/discovery-101-2010-hybrid-bike...

Very happy with it!

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sleepytigercub | 13 April 2010 - 5:07pm

Thank you everyone

I'm bowled over by all the useful advice. Feel free to keep posting any thoughts. Can't wait to start looking at the weekend...!

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eddie | 13 April 2010 - 7:17pm

My twopenn'orth

Hub gears are great: less faffing around with derailleurs, much easier to clean, less to go wrong.

Experienced bike shop staff are invaluable for getting you the right frame size, seat height and so on. And they are susceptible to requests for discounts off locks, lights and other gear if you stress the money you're spending in their shop.

Being visible and assertive will benefit you more than a helmet. There is anecdotal evidence that motorists are more careful when passing un-helmeted cyclists than those with lids; and that there is a tendency for cyclists wearing helmets to take slightly more risks. More on that story here.

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Rosbif | 13 April 2010 - 11:21pm

Thirded...

...or fourther, or whatever. A hybrid will be comfortable and nippy and all manner of just right. And yes, go to a decent-ish bike shop (although personally I'd include Evans in that, not sure if this is a popular opinion...)

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toby1kenobi | 14 April 2010 - 9:22am

Got it!

Followed your wise words and visited a few proper bike shops. The third one I went to was brilliant, spent loads of time with me and let me take a couple of bikes out for a spin. Ended up with a Marin Larkspur, spent more than I planned but worth it in the long run. Picked it up today and if the weather holds I'll be off for a short ride this afternoon.

Thanks again for all your help.

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eddie | 1 May 2010 - 1:09pm
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