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Lucas Hare's picture

Technical question, this. I guess I'm talking to Fraser.

Over the summer I realised that the site's font had got a bit smaller. I wondered if it was anything to do with me accessing it abroad. Then, by chance, I realised that whether or not there was a 'www' included in the web page address made a significant difference to whether or not I got the easily readable version for optically challenged individuals such as myself, or the smaller/neater/but a bit of a strain version.

Now it's all gone small. Am I doing something wrong or is it a change your end?

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Oh, hang on

It appears to be different again. No 'www' definitely results in bigger font. Is this deliberate?

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Lucas Hare | 22 September 2010 - 9:43am

Uhm

The font is the same size it has been for the last year, and whether you use "www" or not shouldn't alter the size of it - you're accessing exactly the same files with exactly the same attributes applied to them.

The only thing I can think of is that it's some kind of browser glitch at your end - have you tried other browsers?

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Fraser Lewry | 22 September 2010 - 9:59am

Hmm

You're right. I'm using Firefox, but it doesn't seem to happen on Safari.

This all started when I went to the USA. Can you imagine why that might be the case? Now that I think of it, Facebook went a bit weird too. It was all stretched.

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Lucas Hare | 22 September 2010 - 10:03am

In Internet Explorer....

....I'm not sure which version I have but it's probably the latest one as I use Windoze 7 .....go to View > Text Size and you can make the fonts larger.

HTH.

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bigsteviecook | 22 September 2010 - 10:03am

Using Firefox

I get the same as Lucas, except my font is smaller without the www, not bigger. Comparing the html sources for the two shows up quite a few differences including the following line:

[script type="text/javascript" src="/misc/textarea.js"][/script]

(brackets changed so they render)

I suspect what's happening is that one is bypassing part of the stylesheet and using the browser default; mine happens to be smaller than Lucas's.

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Fraser M | 22 September 2010 - 10:08am

That's interesting

I'll explore that one. Thanks.

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Fraser Lewry | 22 September 2010 - 10:11am

I can't replicate this

Are you sure you're comparing source code examples from the same page? textarea.js only appears on pages with comments - so not on the homepage, for instance.

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Fraser Lewry | 22 September 2010 - 10:52am

FWIW...

...Firefox renders text smaller without the "www" than with, on my machine too.

Funny stuff. Got to be a linking-to-stylesheet issue, no?

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Bob | 22 September 2010 - 12:23pm

I'm perfectly willing to be proved wrong

But I can't see how that would work. Whether you access the server with www or not does not affect the path to the css files. www and non www are the same place.

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Fraser Lewry | 22 September 2010 - 12:35pm

I'm sure you're right, on reflection.

The only way that could happen is if the stylesheet is absolutely linked (which it isn't) and in any case, it wouldn't have that effect - we just wouldn't get ANY formatting in one of the cases.

Weird, though.

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Bob | 22 September 2010 - 1:04pm

Fairly certain...

You've got me doubting myself now! I used this very thread both with and without the www.

I used the "compare" function in Word to flag up the differences. I only chucked it in quickly, and didn't save, so if you can't replicate I wouldn't rely on what I said.

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Fraser M | 22 September 2010 - 12:33pm

Put it this way...

If it was this page, and textarea.js wasn't showing in the source code, then the comments box wouldn't appear on this page. Did you notice if it was missing?

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Fraser Lewry | 22 September 2010 - 12:36pm

Yes

The comments were on the page both with and without the www.

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Fraser M | 22 September 2010 - 1:26pm

No Squint, No Cry

There's a Firefox add-on called No Squint (or NoSquint) which lets you set font size for different websites. Other similar add-ons are probably available.

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Nick White | 22 September 2010 - 10:09am

OK

I've increased my Firefox font size from 16 to 18. Which makes the Word site the way it used to be, but most other sites a bit too big for my liking. Ah well. No big deal, really. I'll get used to it.

And I must book that eye test.

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Lucas Hare | 22 September 2010 - 10:11am

No Squint 'til Hammersmith

NoSquint should let you set the Word website to, say, 150%, leaving other websites unchanged.

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Nick White | 22 September 2010 - 10:17am

Thanks for the tips

I shall wait until Fraser's had a nose around and then, if necessary, I may use No Squint. Thanks, everyone.

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Lucas Hare | 22 September 2010 - 10:23am

I discovered

a neat function a few weeks ago. If you hold down the keyboard [Ctrl] key and scroll the wheel on the mouse back and forth, the web page you are viewing will zoom in and out accordingly.

It seems to work with Firefox, IE and Chrome within Windows. Not sure about Macs though.

Additionally, if you hold down [shift] whilst scrolling, you can move back and forth between pages.

Hope this helps (eye test booked for this weekend).

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Phil Pirrip | 22 September 2010 - 12:11pm

screenshot

27" iMac, left window Safari, right FF
Photobucket

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James Blast | 23 September 2010 - 5:20pm

This getting weirder

It just shrunk while I was on the page. I didn't refresh or anything.

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Lucas Hare | 28 September 2010 - 9:55am

Hmmm

I suspect this is an issue at your end rather than ours.

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Fraser Lewry | 28 September 2010 - 9:58am

Ok, thanks Fraser

I shall try something else. Thanks again for listening.

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Lucas Hare | 28 September 2010 - 10:11am

Never mind Lucas

We all have issues at one end or the other

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Mousey | 28 September 2010 - 10:15am
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