Word magazine - niche?
Posted by Twangothan on 7 April 2008 - 12:44pm.
According to Barbara Ellen in yesterday's Observer, Word is a "niche" magazine. Which niche exactly? (I believe BE is an ex-NME hack?)....
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Maybe...
... she meant to say 'nice'.
Quite the opposite in fact...
the reason The Word is the only magazine I buy each month is due to its diversity. All types of music are covered, from the 'Tangle to Burial, there is superb, informed cultural commentary from David Hepworth and others and it generally appeals to people who wouldn't consider Oasis to be the best band ever. If 'niche' means 'appealing to someone with a brain' then yes, I suppose it is.
I'll get me coat then
I don't mind being treated as an untermensch for liking (no, loving) Oasis, but can we just give it a rest and say that a lot of people who read The Word don't like them but some do and that's OK?
It's fine by me if people like Oasis...
they've had their moments... but the best band of the last 20 years as some people make out? Give me a break.
Can I just say...
...many of the music critics on The Guardian and The Observer tend to really get my goat. Too much sneering and posturing for my liking; many of their writers are too in love with themselves to pass reasonable judgement on any given album, in my opinion. And yes, most of them seem to be ex-NME or ex-Melody Maker.
that'll include Jude Rogers,
that'll include Jude Rogers, Rob Fitzpatrick and Laura Barton I presume? ;)
Also i thought she mean't you can keep them on a "shelf" in the wall or in my case a pile in bathroom!
Out of mild interest
a recent court case revealed that the Guardian Media Group has a minority stake in Development Hell...
wheels within wheels
.. and wild eyed loners get slagged off for spotting conspiracies and connections in the media. Full disclosure is what we need.
Patrick already nailed this question:
"People who can write interviewing people who can talk for people who can read."
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/shirty#comment-27620
Obviously this equates to "niche" in Barbara Ellen's lowest common denominator world.
I buy three or four music mags each month.
Word, Mojo, Uncut and, once in a blue moon, Q. Apart from Q (which i fell out of love with a LONG time ago) I enjoy all of them. They all have their good AND bad points. I realize this is the Word website but the amount of abuse any rival music publication/journalist is subject too on this blog is starting to put me off Word! Not because of the mag itself - although the Moz piece by David Quantick really ticked me off - but because of my fellow readers! Come on, I'm sure David, Mark (ex-NME i think) and the rest of the Word crew can take a bit of minor criticism without the blog regulars on here having to jump to their defence. For the record, i read Barbara Ellen's piece and didn't for one second think she was having a go at Word, just pointing out that it appealed to a selective readership.
Do you know grac,
I was just thinking the same thing myself. I concur with absolutely everything you've just said.
Me too
I felt slightly pleased by selectivity.
Yes...
...having now read that article in question there wasn't anything bad about the mag. I'm still not a fan of some of their articles (particularly the blogs) though.
Like it or not...
The Word caters to a demographic, just like any other magazine.
This takes me back to the time I picketed Endeavour House with a handmade sign that read: Damn you, I am individual, only for a passing employee from Development Hell to remark: "Actually our market research indicates that you will shortly undergo a midlife crisis, which you will attempt to resolve by purchasing a McFly album."
I didn't say there was anything bad about it
I just wondered what niche we are in?
Media pack
Kindly refer to the foot of this page for an idea of what niche we are meant to be in. I suppose being niche means not catered for by the mainstream, which is kind of true, and quite a good thing going by what the mainstream represents.
Hmmmm ...
The "Play some old" / 'OAP Sound System' niche that everyone three threads over seems so keen to embrace presumably? Now where did I leave that McFly CD ... ?
She's absolutely right
The Word is a relatively small-circulation magazine which caters for a fairly small "community of interest", i.e. intelligent writing about contemporary popular culture for a reasonably intelligent readership whose tastes and interests are more rareified than the mainstream mass market. It is therefore a "niche" magazine. I don't think we'd want it any other way; and I don't think Barbara Ellen used the term "niche" to either belittle or criticise the magazine.
About the only thing I agree with Barbara Ellen about though.
Does that mean that BBC2 is
a "niche" channel?
I suppose so yes
If you take "niche" to mean appealing to a minority rather than the mass market mainstream, which is the sense in which it was applied to The Word. You could also say The Observer is a bit of a "niche" paper.
Barbara Ellen......
.....writes very well and has done for many years, I think, and is one of the reasons I buy the Observer (along with Nigel Slater and Jay Rayner, but thats another tale). I think niche is quite a decent epithet. It implies no criticism. I read it with some pride, sad git that I am, as it made me feel that a niche was a cosy haven of like minded, give or take some variations in taste, individuals. God forbid we embrace the mainstream. The Q is long enough for that already (geddit!)
P.S. to Grac: a little bit of funpokery at the buffoons of Unshod and Slomo cuts no mustard compared to the lashings given Heppo, Ello and the Frazester from the Irregulars. I buy the same trio of mags as you and enjoy 'em too, but, hey, some humour does no harm. And I still think the editor of Unshod should get a haircut and stop beaming in tales of excess from yonder years as it is no longer big and no longer clever.
(Q is unreadable claptrap of course, unreservedly.)
You are right Retropath2
But, there is media comment about our favourite mag some of which is warrented and some not. Bottomline is a bad call was made, the guys put their hands up and admitted it.
Job done.
No reason to go on offensive against anyone. And like you said a little humour does no harm but it seemed to me that the "lets trash Moz stuff" was getting a little silly.
I like it when my "niches" have a little perspective.
Agreed that Uncut's editor is no advert for ...
a life of drink 'n' drugs but some of his story's do make me laugh and a recent Joe Cocker anecdote was particularly touching.
Touching?
In an indie way, I hope.
Yeah...
...those anecdotes from the editor of, ahem, 'Unshod' do nothing for me either. I'm not an Uncut fan by any stretch, but I still wouldn't have put it down there with NME or Q. Don't buy Mojo now but I've never had a problem with it; it tends to have more maturity, without childish potshots, and has not been fashion/trend conscious like Q and NME are.
Mojo
is "Classic Rock" without the Metal and with the Folk 'n' Country.
Classic Rock
is Jeremy Clarkson.
Nothing wrong with a bit of...
Clarkson!
While Mojo
is Bill Oddie.
Blimey, Vulp
You make it (Slomo) sound quite good! I cancelled their subscription much as I took Word's out, as much as in pique as they had failed to add a cover disc and because I wanted the Shelby does Dusty.
I feel too young for Classic anything......
Listened to a
"Classic" podcast and you are right even that feels old.
Just a thought.....
why have we not twigged? Barbara Ellen. Mark Ellen. Related? Um, previously related?