Entertainment For Lively Minds
Why watch TV at all?
Just read the "Is there too much entertainment" thread. My question is why bother watching TV at all? I gave it up two and a half years ago once I realised what a load of tosh I was watching. I haven't missed it at all and won't be going back.
Instead I occasionally watch DVDs of things recommended to me by family, friends and on here. If I want to watch sport (I particularly like football and rugby), I go to the pub or to an actual live sporting event.
My viewing this year has consisted of Homicide: Life on the Street, Weeds, the fourth series of Battlestar Galactica, a handful of rugby DVDs covering Lions tours in 1997 and 2001 and England's World Cup win, completing The Wire and a number of films. I've also discovered that there are some quite brilliant old films now available in box sets - most of Powell and Pressburger's best work for about 20 quid for example.
Who needs the current dreadful output of TV? This way, I can even filter out the odd gem to watch at a time and pace of my choosing. Can anyone tell me what I'm missing?
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I don't encourage this kind of thinking
My livelihood depends on people watching TV.
I see your point
As I record just about everything I watch on TV these days I could just as easily watch it from DVDs but I like to watch a lot of football and I've never enjoyed watching it in a pub. What you don't get if you rely on box sets is the odd little low budget gem that isn't worth marketing. I've recently enjoyed "Genius" and "Never Seen Star Wars" (yes yes, I know they were both on the radio) and I can't see them transferring to DVD.
Football can also be watched at friends' houses
Indeed, I prefer watching sport with other people and I can get big matches (Champions League, European Championships, World Cup) via legal internet streams from the Dutch equivalent of the BBC. Rugby is another matter but I've watched this at friends' houses and in pubs this year and I even flew to Edinburgh to watch Scotland v Italy.
Your other point is rather reduced by the fact that your examples were not TV ones.
Not radio
The two programmes I mentioned were television shows, I said that I knew they'd been radio shows merely because I expected someone else to point that out.
wot no telly
You forgot to mention how many bland , mundane and useless conversations are cut short when you reply " don't know mate I don't have a telly " . TV does have its role, however it could be argued that there cannot be a Cathy come home moment where society is already so fractured .
The only down point is the constant hassle from the TV licence bods .
Well,
The European Cup Final tonight could be one argument for TV.
Ah, but that is no problem
I have a computer so I can watch it via the livestream from the Dutch public broadcaster (I live in Holland). Presumably something similar is available from ITV?
However, Champions League evening is an annual big night for myself and a couple of friends. We drink fantastic wine, eat a great meal cooked by ourselves and watch the match. I can also host it with the internet stream option.
ITV! No Thanks!
Good grief! It's bad enough watching football on an LCD TV set - watching on a computer screen is presumably awful. Also, watching an ITV stream would mean putting up with the ITV coverage which will be awful. I'll be watching on Sky.
Bad time to be asking
I get the Radio Times, and the only shows I've circled next week are all on the radio. We are entering the Nothing On Telly season, its harbinger usually being the start of Big Brother.
Ask again in the autumn. Maybe something worth a damn will turn up by then. (Wouldn't bet your Wire Boxed Set on it though.)
And yes, before anyone else says it...
I am already aware that in the 21st Century I am a Bateman cartoon : The Man Who Bought The Radio Times For The Radio.
Actually...
...I was going to say The Man Who Bought the Radio Times.
Since Monday…
… I've been grappling with non-possession of a TV, and the recent Word feature on the state of British TV was a contributory factor in the final decision to give it the old heave-ho (not out of our 3rd floor window, sadly). Not regretting it yet (although I must admit I'll miss the Apprentice tonight).
It'll be on Youtube within a couple of days
Before we had kids
we swore we would never plonk them in front of the telly just to get an hour or two of peace and quiet. After we had kids, reality bit.
If we still had no children then I would agree with you. I honestly think I could live without it (although if I could just pay a tiny fraction of the licence fee to get only BBC4 that would be nice). Like Fraser in the other thread, I have a huge pile of unread books. If I didn't have a TV I think I would probably get through them a lot quicker. I know the option to actually turn off the TV is always there, but somehow that never seems to happen.
I've got a child of nearly three
He has a small number of DVDs which he occasionally watches. However, he rarely wants to.
Crikey
I would not have missed the hilarious spoof-Star-Trek-alike episode of CSI last night for the world. Just a shame that House is back in a few days on bloody Sky One. You know where you are with Five.
why do people get rid off their tv
rather than just not watch stuff they don't like. I still don't understand why people have this massive reaction to it. Elsewhere I pointed out all the rubbish books that are printed but no one say's how much they hate reading nowadays. Watching stuff via the net or dvd is still watching tv.
Don't you end up with very narrow viewing if you only watch DVD's reviewed in music magazines and Broadsheet papers?
Like I say I do find the strong reaction very interesting.
Why...
keep a kennel if you no longer have a dog?
keep rugby boots if you longer play rugby?
keep a cassette player if you no longer have cassettes?
keep a bike pump if you no longer ride a bike?
so, why keep a TV if you no longer watch it?
Sure if you don't use something get rid of it
but it always seems to be a big gesture and like people who go running the "we don't watch tv " brigade always have to tell other people in a way that people who don't read poetry or play computer games don't feel the need to.
Anti TV but not other mediums?
I'm with Chris G, I don't really understand the idea of being Anti-TV just because there is a lot of rubbish on. Surely it is just a medium by which information and entertainment are presented, as are books, magazines, the radio, the internet... All of those have rubbish on them too, not everything is meant for everyone, you just pick and choose what you want.
My mum doesn't have a computer because
as far as she's concerned, there's nothing for her on the Internet. Is she 'anti-Internet'?
My sister doesn't have a radio in her house because she does like listening to the radio. Is she 'anti-radio'?
By the same token, some people don't have a TV because, as far as she's concerned, there's nothing for them on TV. Are they 'anti-TV'?
Does not having access to a transmission medium automatically mean you're particularly anti-that-medium?
I don't have a poodle but I'm not 'anti-poodles' :-)
That's not what I'm saying
I'm talking about people who are always telling you " we don't watch tv" as if it's full cultural meaning and of course they tell you again ten minutes later and in fact drive through town on an open top bus shouting through a bull horn "did I say we haven't got a telly".
ps someone who didn't listen to the radio would be really weird :)
Ah... ok... I get you now...
I know a couple of people who don't have a TV - not sure I've ever seen/heard anyone make a *big* issue out of not having a TV though.
I think that's different
I have a TV in my house but no cable or digital contract so I can't receive any TV (there is no analogue via aerial here in Holland). To be honest with you, the reasoning was more that my better half were watching far too much dross and couldn't turn it off. This solution works much better for us - watch some good/great stuff of our choosing and not have the problem of mindless zapping all evening or watching tosh.
I don't include myself as someone who doesn't watch TV. I clearly do but I just can't receive the standard output of the TV companies.
Microwaves
Likewise, people who don't have a microwave seem compelled to tell everyone about it.
Are microwave ovens that ubiquitous?
I've never owned one but didn't think that was anything unusual to be honest.
Don't get the "all or nothing" approach
Some TV is good. A lot is utter dross. My view of which is which changes with my mood and how much wine I've had. But why deny yourself access to the occasional good bits, even if they are few and far between. I got rid of my rugby boots when I stopped playing, but I still like to watch the occasional game on TV.
To get rid of your TV says to me there's nothing worth watching on, ever, and there never will be. I'd agree it does sometimes feel like that, but usually something turns up.
PS : I don't tweet, have never facebooked, and am a spotify virgin. But I live in hope....
Re: my mum doesn't have a computer
Not necessarily, but following on from the original post, if she was saying "Why use the internet at all / who needs the dreadful output of the internet" you might feel that you could say that she was 'anti-Internet'.
...if you were saying "Why have a poodle at all / who needs a dreadful poodle" you might say that you were 'anti-poodles'.
etc.
I am...
anti-poodles!! and all other small dogs, can't stand them! I like tv though!!
The paradox of having Sky +
is that we watch less TV. We used to watch any old rubbish that was on - now we just watch the rubbish we really want to - and much more importantly - when we want to.
Thus - not only does more mean less in this instance, it means a happier house - as often if the Light is watching "Lost" or some programme about one woman's desperate struggle against something desperately struggleworthy - I can sneak off and have intercourse with you lot
I haven't missed it either and I think that is worth mentioning
I watched television almost every single day for thirty-five years. Sometimes I watched it almost all day. I have watched a lot of television. And I read a lot about it too: as a fan, about its history, how it's made, what it means. Some of the most enjoyable, or thought-provoking, moments of my life have been down to television. In fact, I've even sought out some of the people responsible and thanked them. I am not anti-tv.
I moved house at Christmas. I had no tv and lots to do. You can learn a foreign language in the time it takes to move a bank account. I vowed not to get a tv until everything got done. Everyone who knows me gave it a fortnight. I was amazed at what happened next: I DID NOT MISS TV AT ALL. I think that's interesting. I had put an awful lot of time and effort into being a discriminating tv viewer over the previous twenty-odd years. It was a major part of my daily life. I never imagined that it would be so easy to live without it.
I still watch tv at friends' houses, of course. Watching the match live on tv has turned into an event again. I'm sure that my standard of living would be improved by having a stockpile of The Daily Show, Charlie Brooker, TV Burp and BBC4's foreign films to look forward to. It would be quite costly though. I don't want to organise my evenings around 8:30pm so I'd have to buy some kit - and a licence of course. They're good shows but they're not worth £400. I could keep spending and get The Colbert Report. How did the bigger channels miss that? You can buy a lot of box sets for that money. I could even watch the ones I've got.
I honestly believed that within six months I wouldn't have had a clue what people were talking about. There'd be some catchphrase or controversy or something. I glance at the front pages of the tabloids or listen to Radio 5 Live and I'm back in the loop. I'm not aware that I've missed anything unmissable on tv at all. (A lot of the examples of top-quality documentaries in this thread date from 2008 and earlier.)
I'm not an evangelist but I have mentioned my-life-without-television on two threads now. I think it's worth sharing. Why was it so easy to give up? There is a lot about tv I really dislike. If I worked in tv I would be interested. When the digital changeover happens there will be millions of people with tv sets that don't work anymore. They might race to the shops to get a Freeview box or a new set. Or they might not get round to it. And if they don't get round to it they might not miss tv at all.
The latest series of Charlie Brooker
is probably a bit of a loss. In fact, a fair bit of BBC4 stuff is quite compelling. But hell, that's what the iPlayer is for. I have a TV in the corner but it's getting less and less use as time goes on.
And I really can't remember the last time I bothered watching ITV, except for being able to catch the occasional TV Burp and Al Murray's show and that was hardly religious. Other than that. Nada. I find ITV News just unbearable.