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Why so few 2nd-hand CD's in the UK?

Keith Aitken's picture

Inspired by the bookshop thread... When I lived in California for a couple of years, I spent a fortune on used CD's - Many of the US chains have used CD and DVD sections which were full of bargains. My favourite, Rasputin Music in Newark, was about the size of a small-ish supermarket, and roughly 1/3 of the floor area was given up to the Used product. Over the space of 2 years I aquired roughly 250 CD's of various quality levels... but when you were paying between 50c and $3.99 a shot, you didn't care too much. Plus, if you REALLY hated it, you could sell it back (albeit at a loss).

My question is though.. why is this not more common in the UK? I know some of the smaller shops have Used sections, but I'm not aware of any of the larger chains having any Used product. Is there some kind of regulation regarding this, or is it just a reluctance on behalf of the industry to allow this? I guess the royalties are only paid once...

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CD Warehouse (and Wilkinsons: the new Woolies?)

In my local high street (Wimbledon) there was a shop called CD Warehouse for a few years which I think was part of chain. It bought and sold second hand CDs and was pretty good. It shut down a couple of years ago. I presume downloading, home burning, ebay and all that killed off the market for used CDs. But it did what it did well when there was a call for it. Opposite what was CD Warehouse is a shop called Wilkinsons which has been dubbed “the new Woolies” in The Times today. It sells stuff that you want/need. I went there the other day and came out with: a cat litter tray, a teapot, a ball of string and a much-needed new tin opener. Now that’s what I call an exciting shopping experience these days.

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Richard Lowe | 20 January 2009 - 6:10pm

Do they sell plungers for unblocking sinks?

(waits excitedly, hoping for a reply in the positive, whilst knee deep in dirty dishes)

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Vulpes Vulpes | 20 January 2009 - 7:30pm

Knee deep?

Foxy, you're doing it all wrong. You're washing up, not treading grapes.

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nigelthebald | 20 January 2009 - 8:04pm

You haven't seen

the size of my sink.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 21 January 2009 - 2:34pm

How

can you be sure....?

Mwah hah haaaaah....

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nigelthebald | 21 January 2009 - 3:09pm
Richard Lowe | 20 January 2009 - 8:26pm

No CDs

But they do have this for the, er, cognoscenti
http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/invt/ch01017

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Beany | 20 January 2009 - 9:53pm

Sorted.

Thanks to that, I've found the car keys I dropped into the washing up pile a month ago.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 21 January 2009 - 2:36pm

CD Warehouse in Wimbledon

When I hit hard times in nineties I would sometimes take half a dozen CDs there to sell in order to be able to feed myself until pay day. They were pretty generous - I think I got 30-40 quid. Perhaps that's one of reasons for their demise.

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Sven Garlic | 20 January 2009 - 9:42pm

Wilkinsons sells everything

but it doesnt sell the Titan Shaver. This an ingenious fruit and vegetable peeler shaped rather like a.......shaver. The TV advert selling it was very impressive but I baulked at paying nearly 20 quid. I shall have to see if it is cheaper elsewhere. The problem with these adverts though is when you actually get the product they are selling it never works for you the same as it does for the bloody magician using. Etch a sketch and spirograph were great examples of this as was the Stylophone.

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Steve Turner | 20 January 2009 - 9:07pm

I like Cash Converter style

I like Cash Converter style shops as they sometimes have half-decent second-hand CDs in for reasonable prices, and sometimes all they have are rubbish CDs.

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DavidShep | 20 January 2009 - 9:28pm

Vinyl Exchange in Manchester

Mainly secondhand CDs, some new stuff but an abundance of cheap promos out of the rep's van. Like an auction in reverse, the price starts at, say, £6 but if it does not sell it gets reduced by £1 over several weeks. If it eventually reaches £1 unsold it goes into the 3 for a £1 box. The trick is to pick up a bargain before someone else does.

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Beany | 20 January 2009 - 9:59pm
kidpresentable | 29 January 2009 - 7:21pm

Only last Friday

.

Marty Feldman
I bought this CD for £5 - I did not know it existed until then. It's bloody marvellous.

There is a whole series of Decca Comedy Classics being reissued on CDs. I expect to see a mention of this in the next edition of The Word.

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Beany | 29 January 2009 - 7:58pm

I wonder whether there may be an upsurge in 2nd hand CD outlets.

Or should that be hope. Am I naive to think there will be a volume of individuals who will be ditching (or have) their physical colections in favour of a virtual world on their computers and i-pods instead; there are several bloggers on here who suggest so. For those of us who can only scratch the itch by physically rummaging thru' hard copy, these will soon be our only outlet. Sadly these will not be the longstanding specialists who love the music- such shops have been falling by the wayside as quick as the retailers of new. It will be the entrepreneurs seeing a buck in CDs, DVDs, games and anything else.

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Retropath2 | 21 January 2009 - 9:14am

Er, Ebay anyone...?

I lovelovelove 2nd-hand record shops, but if anything's going to kill them it's going to be Ebay (and the ilk) rather than downloading or the credit crunch, as it sucks away both buyers and supply of "new" product...

To answer the original post, I think I'm right in saying that the major labels absolutely hate the 2nd-hand business, and always "hinted very strongly" to retailers that if they opened 2nd-hand sections then they could expect to have their supplies of new stuff cut off. The videogame industry did the same thing, but eventually some store group (either Play or Game) broke the embargo and now I think everyone does it.

And I may well be talking out of my rear, but I even think there was a test case where a label tried to sue someone for selling 2nd-hand records (against that "not for resale etc. etc." tiny boilerplate message on every record), but it was thrown out of court and led to the definition of "Fair Use", which includes copying for backup, personal and - little known fact! - friend & family use, and (of course) being able to sell it on later.

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Metal Mickey | 21 January 2009 - 10:01am

Shit!

Yes, I read Daveys comment about his getting rid of hard copy in the adjacent strand and remembered e -bay. But e-bay is even more impossible to browse unless you know what you are looking for, to an far greater extent than the Amazons, Plays etc etc, where they will at least have genres and sales and "those who bought this also" etc etc. Type used cd into e bay and you get an impossible list, I would expect. (I've only ever looked up specific and unavailable anywhere else records and then either been put off entirely or been able to purchase on eventual re-release (Ocean Colour Blue) or by application of "Fair use" from friends on this site.)

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Retropath2 | 21 January 2009 - 10:08am

There's a new chain on the high street

They're called "cex". I know little about them except my local branch has a whole floor of second-hand CDs and DVDs. Unfortunately, most of the CDs are Snow Patrol and Feeder though

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Joe R | 21 January 2009 - 10:22am

That would be...

http://www.cex.co.uk/products/music/

Interesting. Take That CD. We buy for 30p, we sell for £2.50. Er, no thanks I'll either hold onto it or sell it myself on Ebay.

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Beany | 21 January 2009 - 10:26am

Not the best idea in that sense

but I had a load of old CDs from my early teenage years which were a constant source of embarrassment. I lugged them down to cex and got about £25 for the lot. I'm not sure they would've sold on eBay and it was far quicker and more convenient

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Joe R | 21 January 2009 - 10:42am

Interesting.....

that Take That is worth 30p compared to what they pay for Amy, Leona and Duffy. Actually suggests they aare swamped with more Take Thats than they can shift, rather than being a generalisation of their mark-up/"handling fees". I think to be given £3 for an Amy Winehouse you have no further use of (i.e. copied/ripped) would prove quite attractive to many.

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Retropath2 | 21 January 2009 - 10:48am

Amazon Does This

Have a look at Amazon. You can sell all unwanted CDs/DVDs through them. I've been buying and selling via them for years with no problems. The good thing is you can set your selling price unlike EBay, so you don't have to get rid of them for nothing.

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Excitable Boy | 21 January 2009 - 4:13pm

You can

have a "buy it now" fixed price on Ebay and Play.com have got in on the act too.

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Beany | 21 January 2009 - 4:22pm

eBay

Set the price you're happy with and don't charge for postage. So you can put that 2CD Best Of on sale for £6.

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LOUDspeaker | 29 January 2009 - 12:59pm
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