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Why doesn't anyone sing in a proper British accent any more?

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I always loved Petula Clark. Great first name for a start. But also, she sang PROPERLY, and on real POP SONGS. I mean Julie Andrews was proper in Mary Poppins, but Petula actually had HITS.

Like this, great song, and she sounds like a jolly nice young lady.

Why don't we have singers like this any more? Eh?

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Don't you mean English?

Just thought I'd get it in before the Scottish/Northern Irish/Welsh/Cornish/any other British contingent of the Massive put the boot in.

If you're talking about RP (Received Pronunciation) Sophie Ellis Bextor is the only one that springs to mind and "that bird from the Art Of Noise whose name eludes me" helped them do very well for themselves by being sampled by the Prodigy. Not really singing though.

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donttellhimpike | 19 November 2011 - 9:20am

Authentic Briddish dialect..

step right this way..

(I doubt even MAM will want to defend her)

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Declan | 19 November 2011 - 5:11pm

garagish - had to laugh.

garagish - had to laugh. More likely to be garidge.

She tries hard but really needs to know her subject matter a lot better

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andrewdavidlong | 19 November 2011 - 11:05pm

"That bird...

...from the Art Of Noise" being Camilla Pilkington-Smyth, I discovered today. Of the Pilkington family. Explains her cut-glass enunciation, doesn't it?

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donttellhimpike | 27 November 2011 - 12:26am

Have an up for the pun

although if she were true to her roots she'd sound like Johnny Vegas

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Humphrey Plugg | 30 November 2011 - 12:33am

British accent?

Like DTHP above, I assume you mean RP and the one that springs to mind is Sarah Nixey either on her her own or with Black Bow Recorder.
If you really mean a British accent then there are loads, The Lovely Eggs are clearly British, as is Kate Rusby, Nick Lowe is cleasrly British from his singing, then there's Glasvegas.. I'm sure the list is very long indeed.

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JohnW | 19 November 2011 - 9:52am

Black Box Recorder...

Glad you mentioned them... Something like this?

Luke Haines, too. Always sings in his own accent. Still making great records. Like this:

http://open.spotify.com/user/doublevisionary/playlist/5FLvQS1FkaaNlZk9bi...

His book 'Post Everything' details the rise and fall of BBR in typically hilarious and dry style.

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Adman | 19 November 2011 - 1:03pm

Tracy Thorn

TT sings in an impeccably English accent. So does Pye Hastings. And Richard Sinclair. And Robert Wyatt. Hmm, trend forming here.

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Twangothan | 19 November 2011 - 10:44am

Er - English/British

Sorry, it's all the same to us convicts and colonials, in that I mean an accent that is recognisably from the UK as opposed to the US.

So can I get this straight - British includes Irish, Scottish, Welsh - English means England - hmmm, of course.

(retrieves garment left at door)

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Mousey | 19 November 2011 - 10:10am

Yes

Because the Reid boys and Lily Allen, they sound the same!

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sitheref2409 | 19 November 2011 - 11:59am

In the folk world

anyone singing in anything but their own accent gets laughed at.

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Jorrox | 19 November 2011 - 10:16am

Neil Tennent

is always well enunciated. Lilly Allen and Kate Nash have very clear English accents when they sing - even if it isn't RP.

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BigJimBob | 19 November 2011 - 11:06am

If we're talking regional accents

then surely here are three pretty strong and distinctive ones:

(Shack - Comedy)

(Ian Dury and The Blockheads - Billericay Dickie)

(The Fall - Hit The North)

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Humphrey Plugg | 19 November 2011 - 12:18pm

Madchester

Shaun Rider always sings in pure Manc. If you can call it singing (pronounced with a hard middle g).

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paulwright | 19 November 2011 - 12:32pm

"Downtown" sung in a British accent?

Surely that sounds like this?

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Topical Tim | 19 November 2011 - 12:36pm

Maximo Park

English accent thick enough to spread on yer stottie cake:

And I can't believe this lot haven't been mentioned yet!

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keefus | 19 November 2011 - 1:10pm

How to de-sexify Sex Machine and still make it sound sexy

You want a posh English accent? You want enunciation? You want vocals so dead pan they make Neil Tennant sound like some attention-seeking X Factor caterwauler?

Ladies & Gents, I give you Deborah Evans-Stickland of the Flying Lizards, giving a performance of Sex Machine that the Godfather of Soul could never have imagined in his freakiest dreams. Brilliant!

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Bob Sacamano | 19 November 2011 - 1:14pm

Let's go back a second

"Downtown" is in the Top Ten Greatest British Pop records ever made. If you disagree you are wrong.
Also one of the greatest fade outs in pop,The Trumpet is brilliant.

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Sour Crout | 19 November 2011 - 1:26pm

OP thesis

seems to exclude the way language is used in large areas of "Britain" today. That language is a cross pollination of Estuarine/Afro-Caribbean/Asian and flavored with indigenous local accents. But broadly speaking, Bristol, Birmingham,Manchester and the good ship Lahnd'n share similar vocabulary and tropes.

Sometimes, this is borderline comical as in an exchange I heard in a bar in Bristol recently where two twenty somethings were earnestly engaged in conversation about shoes, with one employing the immortal phrase

"man, dem is like well nang trainers innit blud" except in a Bristolian twang a la Little Britain's Vicky Pollard.

As on the streets and in the homes of "Britain" so it is in the music and you don't have to delve too far into Grime or Dubstep or Brit Hop to find examples. Mainstream music from Mike Skinner to Tinie Tempah to Cher Lloyd is full of Its presence.

For example, here is Mr Dizzee Rascal and "Stand Up Tall"

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Sheev | 19 November 2011 - 3:03pm

Dido does.

All hail the sexy queen of bland with one of her two decent songs!

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Mr Fade | 19 November 2011 - 3:05pm

Dido

Still would

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Six Dog | 21 November 2011 - 3:49pm

Still wouldn't

buy a magazine with her on the cover though

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Runcible | 21 November 2011 - 4:13pm

Readers Wives?

.

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Six Dog | 21 November 2011 - 4:35pm

Strap-on Dido Party #7

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Brookster | 21 November 2011 - 4:52pm

I always thought Dido should

I always thought Dido should have made an Xmas album entitled 'No L'. That is all.

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Andy Lynes | 29 November 2011 - 5:52pm

Saint Etienne

Sarah Cracknell does not exactly sound like she born deep in the heart of Texas...

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Kjell | 19 November 2011 - 4:14pm

As a Sassenach

I'm a sucker for sexy strong Scottish sirens. Lulu from the same era as "Our Pet" is still belting 'em out and KT Tunstall's whisky-tinged vocals earned her a hand crafted guitar from distiller Talisker. But if it's enunciation you want then Annie Lennox's crystal tones hit the spot every time.

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donttellhimpike | 19 November 2011 - 5:16pm

Let it not be forgotten

that Charlie Chaplin wrote This Is Your Song.

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Bruised Mike | 19 November 2011 - 10:37pm

I think it was "This is MY Song"

but anyway - your point is...?

Terrible song IMHO, OTOH he did write "Smile" which is a beautiful song

Here's Nat King Cole's version

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Mousey | 21 November 2011 - 3:23am

How about this from Petula Clark

Her none-more-Roedean and completely spiffing version of Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. Jolly good show!

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Rosbif | 20 November 2011 - 11:53pm

It's all about enunciation

[NOEL COWARD - Mad Dogs And Englishmen]

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mojoworking | 21 November 2011 - 4:38am

Good point

I always admired Tommy Steele for singing in his natural accent and not trying to emulate Presley like all the others at the time. And I've always been a huge fan of Anthony Newley too for the same reason..

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Gurney-Slade | 21 November 2011 - 8:21am

Surprised this wasn't posted already...

Just released in Ireland, this version of Downtown features the woman herself on backing vocals with the Saw Doctors...

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Bamber | 21 November 2011 - 3:30pm

Feckin' Marvlus..

How come the Saw Docs look like Pet's aged relatives? She's lookin' not bad for a wartime entertainer.

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Jorrox | 21 November 2011 - 5:07pm
whitehorsehill | 21 November 2011 - 3:50pm

Professor Green

Is youz sehying dat Prof Green doesn't speak to da massif is a pwopa English accent? Das rad man. Sick. Innit...

God I want to slap him.

SPEAK PROPERLY YOUNG MAN. You are 27 years old from Hackney (even that's subject to debate) - not a primary school kid from Brooklyn.

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Six Dog | 21 November 2011 - 3:56pm

One day

he's going to regret having those shit tattoos done on his neck.

Probably next year when he's back on the dole.

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mojoworking | 23 November 2011 - 9:26am

They cover up a huge scar

from where he was stabbed in the neck and nearly died. Don't think he'll end up on the dole either, seems a well-balanced chap although his second album's sadly gone all emo-rap.

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Mr Fade | 29 November 2011 - 5:41pm

Stabbed in the neck?

I didn't think his music was THAT bad.

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mojoworking | 29 November 2011 - 11:01pm

Why doesn't anyone sing in a proper British accent ANYMORE?

Anymore.

Nearly all these examples are from people who made their name and most of their records (or at least, the good ones) well over twenty years ago.

So who sings in a British accent nowadays? I know that Dizzee Rascal's accent is as British as Sue Lawley's, but as I understand it that wasn't the thrust of Mousey's original question.

Sophie E-B, Sarah Nixey and Dido, yes. Amy MacDonald sounds pretty mid-Atlantic to me in that clip. Any more for any more?

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Runcible | 21 November 2011 - 4:23pm

A bold move by Spain anyway

electing Roger Whittaker

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Jed Clampett | 21 November 2011 - 4:56pm

Singing uses a different part of the brain than speech.

This might be why the vowel sounds tend to sound American.
Our brains have a speech centre and singing centre.
People who have had strokes can learn to talk again by singing.

I'm a singer who tends to sing a lot of soul. I'm also reasonably
well spoken. When you hear me sing you'd be in no doubt that I was English
but I certainly wouldn't go out of my way to pronounce things in an English accent. I have tried in the past but it just sounds twee and camp.
Try singing "yeah baby" in a soul style with an English accent...Doesn't work does it!
Doesn't feel natural to sing either.

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Mrxsg | 21 November 2011 - 5:53pm

Paul McCartney's dad

on hearing She Loves You for the first time in 1963, turned to Paul and said "That's very nice son, but there's enough of these Americanisms around. Why couldn't you sing 'She loves you, yes, yes, yes?'"

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mojoworking | 23 November 2011 - 8:01am

That's the way to do it!

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mojoworking | 23 November 2011 - 11:01am
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