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Who's your Del Amitri?
I can bore for Britain on the Dels as I'm sure most of you are aware, a thread suggests a song, I delve into the Dels back catalogue, a thread suggests a singer, I'm off again, I apologise, I try to avoid it but that's the hand the music gods have dealt me. I do however know that I'm not alone, not in Dels worship, but in the fact that I have a default "go to" (sorry) band. I know some of you suffer the same fate, your head tells you don't mention ......... again, you're boring the arse off everyone and putting them off ever listening to them. So let's have a cathartic thread in which we can all share that band that you just don't understand why the whole world doesn't love and doesn't marvel at the fact that YOU have brought them into everyone's life. Here's a song, damn, done it again...
Del Amitri "Come Together"
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It will come as no surprise...
...that for me it's The Hold Steady.
(The Weekenders)
Bob
following the recent thread that turned into a Hold Steady love in I promised myself I will have a proper listen. I'll find it and get the recommended first album at the weekend. I'll report back.
Yay!
Although don't start with the first album. Get "Boys and Girls in America". It's their third, and definitely the most accessible route in.
Really hope you enjoy it.
You couldn't make it up part 137
Look at the special offers and promotions if I get it through Amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Boys-Girls-America-Hold-Steady/dp/B000LE0O7E/ref...
My copy arrived today from Amazon market place
Just ripped and transferred to the iPod.
I'll be demanding my £2.93 back from Bob if it's no good!
Yes, do that
and once again thanks Bob, Paul etc for the recommendation; BAGIA accompanied me to the Lakes and back at the weekend and I never tired of it.
For that price...
I'll try again too...
American Music Club
AMC
For a few years back in the early 90s they were my favourite band. One of my all time favourite gigs was Mark Eitzel solo at the old Falcon in Camden Town. Blimey about 1992 or 1993.
AMC
Glad I'm not alone. There is no justice in a world where Bono pays to have his hat flown business class whilst Mark Eitzel mans his own merch stall.
Eitzel sort of ruined
singer-songwriters for me. After seeing him play live, I've never been able to find anyone since that can write with such heart-breaking honesty. Rufus Wainwright's a showboating fop compared to Eitzel.
(Although, in slight deference to Dave, Justin Currie's stuff has now appeared on my radar and is starting to make an impression, mainly thank to this clip)
Mark Eitzel
Yeah, I can't go to acoustic nights and see somebody sing a pretty enough little ditty without expecting them to be ripping their heart out on stage. It's often very disappointing when they don't. Not that everybody has to, but he raised the bar in my mind quite considerably.
Interesting.
I like Mark Eitzel a lot, but I can't generally bear the school of music that "rips its heart out on stage". I'm just not interested in hearing about anyone's pain: get a fucking therapist! I almost always, with few exceptions (Eitzel being one) just get embarrassed. Why are you telling *us*? Why do you think *we* want to know? A little reserve, please! A little fiction!
Agree mostly
I do actually agree, after all most 'pop' doesnt overshare. What Im looking for is the depth of feeling sometimes. A lot of singer songwriter stuff is heavy on over-information that I really don't want to hear about. Eitzel's lyrics are great, but are also quite abstract, and most of the 'work' is in the delivery.
True.
He has a remarkable way of drawing you in and seeming to confess a lot without actually giving much away explicitly. I admire that.
Depends
Heart-on-sleeve stuff is a bit of a lyrical high-wire act. If you can pull it off, it's very affecting, but if not it's just embarrassing. Most who try fall into the latter category, but not Eitzel.
Absolutely agreed.
If you can pull it off, like M.E., it's remarkable. But almost no-one can.
I
I was once in a band with a lad who attempted to write about his fractured relationship. It was all a bit 'come back Tessa'.
*shudders*
You were in a band with
Tony Blackburn?
Oi!
Two up arrows? For kicking the subtlety out of my Tony Blackburn reference? Cliquey $%£^"*"*!
(Winky thing)
After I posted
it dawned on me that you may have been referencing that particular break up. I maintain I dragged you too subtle gag over the line though.
Tap-in
I feel like Suarez against Man Utd last season. I do all the work, but Dirk Kuyt gets the final touch!
A goal
is a goal.
After last night, Leedsboy,
you should know :-)
(Muttley snigger)
Just to add to the amc love
and to echo other's thoughts on Eitzel solo.
Tool
The good type of prog mixed with the good type of heavy metal. Why you bastards aren't all listening to them mystifies me. I remember James Blast posted an image of some of his album covers and he included the Lateralus cover. My respect for Goths and their taste in music took a huge leap forward that day.
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Tool_(band)
"Tool are a Californian progressive experimental avante-garde art-rock alternative metal band. They have a high degree of popularity among intelligent people like me who like intelligent music. However, they don't really have much mainstream popularity, because they're too busy pushing the boundaries of music. Most dumbass sheeple can't handle all the polyrhythms and time-signatures and stuff, because it's not all 4/4 and 3-minutes long. They all just listen to the Spice Girls and stuff. Not that Tool care about popularity. They're way too busy pushing the boundaries of music. Tool's main message is that people should think for themselves and question everything they're told. Most people don't do this because they're just sheep. I always think for myself because that's what Maynard told me to do. "
Easy!
It`s The Church. I bore myself about them these days
Here`s their "hit"
Under the milky Way by The Church
Surely their 'hit' was The Unguarded Moment?
On the Carrere label?
I spent many a happy year in a band formed with an Australian guy because he walked into the record shop where me and the singer worked and asked if we had anything by The Church. Since they were both called Steve we renamed the bass player Kilbey - which he still answers to to this day.
Well, yes...
technically you`re probably right though wasn`t that a hit in Auatralia only?
Like your Kilbey story. I really rate the real Kilbeys lyrics and singing (though I loathe "Maybe these boys"..their worst song by a mile and allegedly about The Stranglers) and live they still cut it,man.
The Church
I too love the Church and also hate Maybe These Boys. Small world, innit.
Wilco...
... I just love 'em. Although slightly disappointed that some of them have now got beards.
Me too
Looking forward to the UK tour next month. Summerteeth was the first record of theirs I bought, I got each subsequent release and the back catalogue but didn't really get properly hooked until I saw them at Latitude. Since then I've travelled miles to see them at every opportunity and downloaded many, many concert recordings.
Tickets booked...
... for the Munich gig in November - saw them last year here with John Grant supporting them.
It will come as no surprise...
...that I take little encouragement to enthuse and proselytise (however on earth that's spelt!) anout the Mahavishnu Orchestra and Quintessence.
What WILL be surprising, however, is that I'm not posting a clip of either on this occasion.
Respect!
I think I love you.
I couldn't resist, either:
and my personal contribution:
Aum
PS:
I forgot to mention Third Ear Band. I made this wonderful discovery, amongst others, courtesy of reading 'Electric Eden'.
I suspect that I'm probably in the minority here.
Umm
Del Amitri, as it happens.
Moi aussi
As well as Aussie, at least by preference.
I'm sure my love for the Grateful Dead has already come across
in other threads. I won't bother to post a video as you all know the score by now - beards, noodling, two drummers, expiring keyboardists, etc :-)
My other 'go to' band is 72-74 era King Crimson but nothing will ever compete with the Dead for my affections.
Mr Stimpy, sir - which live album next?
I like the Grateful Dead. Or rather, I like live recordings of the Dead, say from about 1969 to 1978.
A few weeks ago I bought the "To Terrapin" Hartford '77 set on Rhino and was mightily impressed.
Indeed, it set off a manic desire in me to buy a lot more live sets from that well-known double-drummered, expiring keyboard-playered, bearded, über-noodling band. Oh yes!
So, ... this is what I've got so far in the way of live stuff:
Dick's Picks 4
Dick's Picks 8
So Many Roads
Hundred Year Hall
To Terrapin: Hartford '77
Europe '72
Live/Dead
Without a Net
I've also got Dick's Picks 12 on order.
Where would you go next, O Oracle of all things Dead?
These are the sets that I've mainly been considering:
Ladies and Gentlemen,…Fillmore East, April 1971
Rockin’ the Rhein, Düsseldorf, April 1972
Steppin’ Out with the Grateful Dead, England ‘72
Live at the Cow Palace, San Francisco, New Year’s Eve 1976
Dick’s Picks Vol. 14, Boston Nov/Dec 1973
Dick’s Picks Vol. 15, Englishtown, September 1977
Dick’s Picks Vol. 16, Fillmore West, November 1969
Dick’s Picks Vol. 18, Madison and Cedar Falls, February 1978
Dick’s Picks Vol. 28, Lincoln and Salt Lake City, February 1973
Dick’s Picks Vol. 29, Atlanta and Lakeland, May 1977
Dick’s Picks Vol. 31, Philadelphia and Jersey City, August 1974
Dick’s Picks Vol. 36, Philadelphia, September 1972
And please don't say "get them all." Mrs duco01 would be most upset...
My personal choice would be
Rockin The Rhein or Stepping Out but I heart the Europe 72 tour shows. For me that's the peak of Deaddom.
One of the Dicks Picks was a 74 show with the full 'Wall Of Sound' PA which is worth a listen.
Some Live Dead Recommendations
from a Deadhead mate (who I am trying to persuade to join this forum): -
Try Old Renaissance Fairgrounds, Veneta, Oregon 27-AUG-72 for possibly the definitive jamming show, or Barton Hall, Cornell University, Ithica, NY 8th May 77 for a tighter, funkier band.
A sublime Scarlet Begonias > Fire On The Mountain - can you hear the join ??
Both readily available on the internet as high quality soundboards.... start at www.deadlists.com (http://www.deadlists.com)
Velvet Underground
Thrilling rhythm guitar, relentless drumming, sing-a-long choruses relayed in a slightly snarky fashion
Pavlov's Dog
That should get you salivating.
The Nines
apart from my love for ELO and XTC
I really do try not to bore on
about 'em too much but it's Marillion.
I could hardly be unaware that many people loath them, and at least understand if not share many of the criticisms, but when they get it right, they can be breathtaking.
This is a song inspired by Donald Campbell and Bluebird, called "Out of this World". It inspired diver Bill Smith to locate and recover Bluebird and, later on, Campbell's body from Coniston Water. Lead singer Steve Hogarth was invited by the family to perform a solo version of the song at Campbell's funeral in 2001.
A friend of mine put the accompanying film together and the band have shown it when they perform the song live. Powerful stuff.
Marillion
Me too for Marillion. Getting people past Grendel/ Kayleigh and the 80,s is hard!How many other bands get better with age 16 albums in? For the non believers or the curious please listen to anything from the last 6 years Marbles or Happiness is the Road albums you might just start to like them!
Maria McKee
I've given up trying to convince people that she's a genius.
It's certainly harder when someone is best known for a Driving Rock Classic taken from a terrible film starring Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman.
If anyone was in any doubt, have a listen to this.
I can't understand why anyone would be put off
...regardless of the dodgy film association, I think SMH is a fantastic song, fantastically sung, and not too far away from some of the stuff on her peerless debut solo album.
I agree but...
when someone has one massive hit, it tends to overshadow everything else they do (before and after).
I heard Ralph McTell being interviewed over the weekend on radio 6 and he said that SOL was a "monster" in both ways.
Big Country
I can just back and cut out of (several of) my previous posts. But Big Country are criminally underrated.
Not everything they did was great - or even good. Peace in our time being the stand out example. But recently they've been getting far more iPod time than any other band.
Some day, one day, there will be a critical reappraisal of BC.
(Oh, and for those in the vicinity, or remotely interested, a dedication of a memorial to Stuart Adamson is set for Saturday in Pittencrieff Park, Dunfermline)
This always does it for me
Big Country "Chance"
It was Lost Patrol that always got me...
Just sounded great. Shame Phonogram's re-issued CD's sound like they've been mastered through a gauze. Shoddy way to treat a decent catalogue.
We're Not In Kansas
When doing tapes for the car, I could never decide which version I liked best, so I used to put both on the tape.
Assume you've heard this?
New Single by Big Country MINUS Stuart Adamson PLUS Mike Peters PLUS Bruce Watsons son
Another Country
Porrohman was always my top BC Tune:
But
BC without Adamson is like the Stranglers without Cornwell.
It's like low alcohol beer. It's just wrong somehow
another thumbs up for Big Country
I drifted away as a teenage fan after the 3rd album, but their 2nd LP Steeltown has a true gem in the track Come Back To Me - a song sung from the point of view of a young girl who's lover has been killed in the Falkland's War. Stuart Adamson was brilliant and brave in having the guts to sing this wonderful anti-war song from the girl's perspective
I don't really need to post anything
do I?
I'll do it for you James
Thomspon Twins "Sister Of Mercy"
(sorry)
Good grief!
Pixies
Great tunes
Nonsensical lyrics
Spaceships/UFO's
Black Francis.
What's not to like?
I've liked them since my teenage years and they have never faded in my estimation.
Yeah.
Absolutely agree. One of my very favourite bands. In fact, if I had to really pick a FAVOURITE favourite, it'd be Pixies. Or R.E.M. - one of the two, and very hard to choose between.
That said - do you really have difficulty persuading people they're worth a listen? I thought they were more or less universally lauded.
Sometimes
A friend of mine after listening to them and seeing a live DVD I gave him commented "It's just a fat guy singing about weird shit".
"Yes, isn't it great" was my response
I was met with a blank stare.
Some people, huh.
Some people, yeah.
A fat guy singing about weird shit? As you say, what's NOT to like?
Tom McRae
I've stopped bringing him up on here because I'm quite clearly the only one who mentions him, and it looks like I'm obsessed. I am, but only cos he's ace.
This song should have been huge, as far as I'm concerned:
http://soundcloud.com/tom-mcrae/still-love-you
All my self-imposed gagging order has really done is mean that I bang on about Elbow and Josh Ritter instead; my musical obsessions are hydra-like it seems.
Josh Ritter
Saw him supporting Gomez a few years back. I thought he was excellent.
I saw that too
He was great, as were Gomez.
I first encountered him supporting Tom McRae, of course. Apparently my life revolves around this bloke.
Josh is now far bigger than Tom will ever be, especially in Ireland where he regularly sells out large venues.
Hey, that's him, the cheeky sod!
I went to watch a band at the Borderline once (I think it was It's Jo and Danny) and wandered up to the stand at the back, where I signed up to their mailing list. Anyway, this bloke asked me if I'd signed up to Tom McRae's mailing list "cos he's really good". So I did.
Anyway, I went back to my missus, who asked who the support act was, just as the show was about to start, so I told her and said this bloke had convinced me to sign up to his mailing list, cos he said he was really good. Then Tom McRae took to the stage...there's no need to finish this story is there!
Elvis is King
but am also vocal about my support from Kathryn Williams, Eels, The Unthanks and others
Kathryn (with Neill MacColl)
Mark Everett "E" 'The Souljacker'
Blue Bleezin Blind Drunk - the canny lasses of the Unthanks
Manic Street Preachers
The initial lipstick, leopard prints, Clash pastiches and rollicking interviews of those early days was a blast across the meandering, mundane bows of Chapterhouse, Slowdive and Lush. They had the looks, the lyrics, the tunes and the attitude. The last gang in Blackwood. Motown Junk, Little Baby Nothing, Slash and Burn, You Love Us, Repeat etc...just thrilling. The howling desperation of The Holy Bible still sends shivers down my spine and I sit and wonder just how James Dean Bradfield managed to wrestle music and melody around those words where I think no-one else confronted with what was effectively Edwards' musings around manic depression and sinking into the abyss, could have wrangled anything from them.
Even their worst record (Know Your Enemy) still has it's moments, in particular, Let Robeson Sing and you can hear the clanging bells of complacency setting in during This Is My Truth and post that record seemed to be grasping to rediscover the muse. They've always been interesting, never dull. A band who can put out a single about the plus points of Richard Nixon's presidential tenure, another about a Pulitzer winning photographer and the Spanish Civil War can't be all bad. 20 years now. Wow.
This still knocks yer socks off every time you hear it...
"No truce with the furies"
Totally agree about JDB
He never gets the credit he deserves for his music, his vocal delivery and, as you say, his wrangling of Richie's lyrics. And has anyone else ever appeared on Top Of The Pops wearing a balaclava with "James" Tipp-Exed on the front? No.
Surprise, surprise...
On the Word blog it would have to be Taj Mahal.
I swear I can feel the Massive furiously scrolling down as soon as they see that name, again...
Also, it's difficult to explain why I love him so much, he's not the best bluesmusician ever (that would be Howlin' Wolf, or Brownie McGhee, or Muddy Waters, or Bukka White, or Sleepy John Estes, or...ah, my opinion changes from day to day!) but he was the first one I heard so he opened up that world of music for me.
And there is something instantly likeable about his style, his songs and his interpretations of other artists songs (and the fact that he very deliberately chose to record a lot of the older bluesartists songs to provide them with royalties in their old age).
I also have a tendency to fall in love with artists whose recorded output resembles a roller coaster ride. Unspeakably bad songs mingle with works of genius on the same album, and in fact some of your favourite songs by them are both unspeakably bad and a work of genius at the same time!
One exemple of that would be Marc Almond. Even when he's awful I just love it...but it's very hard to explain to anyone who's not afflicted...
Ms Locust
I take it you know that the TaJ Mahal Trio are playing Göta Källare, Medborgarplatsen, in Stockholm, on 12 November?
What???!!!
I didn't!
But I will definitely get tickets now! Hooray!
I owe you big time, mr duco01!
By the magic of Internet
I now sit here with my ticket payed for and printed out.
I'm very happy now...I will finally get to see him live!
*basking in a warm glow of pure bliss*
Man tackar, man tackar!
... jag brukar ha rätt bra koll på konsertutbudet här i den kungliga huvudstaden.
I saw the Taj
at Coutances Jazz Festival in Normandy in 2000. He was monumental.
Magnificent trousers too.
I think the Stones R'n'R Circus was shelved because TM sings all those English twits into a hole of weediness.
Loki!
...let's celebrate this epiphany with some vintage Taj. If anybody had put a bet on me posting something on this thread that featured the letters MAHA... they wouldn't have believed it would have been this!
Cool hat!
There's a photo of mr Mahal on the ticket where he's also wearing a cool hat, less scruffy though.
Now he looks very dapper in a blue suit, custard coloured silk shirt, tie and hanky in the top pocket, a very handsome older gentleman.
There's nothing like hearing a little live Taj to brighten your day (and if anyone out there still hasn't bought "The Real Thing" - what are you waiting for ?)
Colin, although I do like your nickname for me, a little voice in my head says "lookie lookie, no hands!" when I read it... ;)
Teenage Fanclub!
Sure I'm not the only one on here either.
Lovely (Did I Say)
Ooh another one
I keep meaning to try, not quite sure how I missed them. Shall I start with a Best Of?
Try Bandwagonesque first...
Nice way in.
Grand Prix
I'd get Grand Prix in preference to Bandwagonesque.
well
obviously
Grand Prix
Grand Prix is also my favourite, but nothing wrong with starting with the best-of.
You can get a double pack of Grand Prix and Songs From Northern Britain pretty cheaply though, and that is hard to beat!
Grand Prix first...
then Songs From Northern Britain THEN Bandwagonesque...
Ah, such happy listening ahead of you!
Arcana
I first heard this Swedish medieval/darkwave group on a podcast and was simply blown away by the sheer beauty of the music and the atmospheric vocals.
Since then I've made it my mission to pass on the wonder of Arcana (http://www.erebusodora.net/arcana/biography.html) to anybody willing to give them a chance. They're happy to admit their Dead Can Dance influences, but for me they take medieval-inspired music to a whole other level of absolute magic.
For me, this is some of the most beautiful music ever made. Give it a try!
Burning Spear
But tricky to strike up a conversation about him with most people.
The Fall would be next. Usually makes for lively conversation, particularly if I need to correct people who think they don't like them.
Hail H.I.M.
Still my album of choice with a herbal cigarette. Don't even get me started on the brilliance of Mark E. Smith.
Hail H.I.M.
is indeed a fine, fine album. I always feel however, that Mr Spear is a little harsh on Christopher Columbus.
Hail H.I.M.
Excellent - probably my favourite of his.
And if there's a better song written than "Door Peep" (Man In The Hills version) I've yet to hear it.
Prince
Wayward, sometimes. An idiot, sometimes. Eccentric, quixotic, maverick - all of these things, some of the time.
But a musical genius - indubitably, all of the time.
A big surprise recently
Was actually digging into Prince's catalogue from the last decade and realising that a) he's still got it, and b)some of the more recent catalogue is possibly better than what I thought was his peak (82-89).
Especially the 'piano' album 'One Night Alone' which a mate of mine was kind enough to supply. Bloody hell, beautiful album, complete with Joni Mitchell cover (A Case Of You) and some glorious vocals. As good as anything else the man has done.
Thin Lizzy
Especially the first three albums with Eric Bell on guitar - marvellous! Philip Lynott was a genius and one of the most soulful rock singers.
Free
Over the last 40 years they've been my default switch. Stil, pound for pound, the best little blues band to come out of these shores.
My friends would say it's Springsteen and I couldn't argue. He has been the cornerstone of my life on so many occassions, especially when my Dad died. Bruce's songs were what kept this particular train from careering off the tracks. Lately it's been The Promise.
Steely Dan...
When I was living in Florence my iPod died and I had no music to listen to. I decided to buy a few CDs I already owned and the first two I picked up were The Royal Scam and Aja.
I had you down
as a cert for for Supertramp Patrick.
I know...
but I don't actually listen to them all that often. They're more of my comfort band. Steely Dan I can play when I'm in any mood, at any time. I never tire of them.
Stiff Little Fingers
This one from 'Get A Life' in 1994
Concrete Blonde
In common with a lot of my favourite bands, Concrete blonde, hail from LA. They were named by their label-mate on IRS records - Michael Stipe - and peaked creatively with their fifth album - Mexican Moon.
Despite the singular talents of the core membership – singer and bass player - Johnette Napolitano - and guitarist Jim Mankey - I’ve never really got on with any of the projects they’ve done away from the group. There's something about the music they make when they get together that is far greater than the sum of its parts.
Concrete Blonde skirted around the edges of success. Joey was a minor hit in the states. Long Time Ago brought the final episode of The Shield to a wonderfully succinct conclusion.
Briefly signed to Capitol records, the band were probably a bit too eccentric and single-minded to survive in the mainstream. They didn't have it in them to be anything other than outsiders and I think that's probably why I like them.
Walking in London
is my favourite album of theirs
Ghost of a Texas Ladies Man
Clem Snide
Quite simply the Best band i've ever seen. Fabulous lyrics,great melodies and superb live.
Eef Barzalay is a genius.
one video wasn't enough
The Prisoners
I always go back to The Prisoners, a 60s garage/Mod band from the 80s, who featured a young James Taylor on keyboards before he went onto Acid Jazz fame as the James Taylor Quartet. Graham Day has spent the last 30 years making this kind of music, and is still going strong. I love them, even if there are other bands I think are better, other songs that move me more, better singers etc. But something about The Prisoners makes me feel like I'm 16 all over again. And that might be bittersweet, but it's exciting as hell.
Michael Marra
Here's why:
An inspiration
Did you spot this Lando?
A date for your diary # 1: On Fri 30th Sept local musical legends MORT WRIGGLE and the PANTHERS reform for one night only at Clark's.
Formed in the 70s, the band were one half of the amalgam that became SKEETS BOLIVER and boast the following line up: LOUIS O'NEIL, CHRIS MARRA, MICHAEL MARRA, STEWART IVINS and DONNY COUTTS.
Get here early!!
I'd love to bump into you sometime in Dundee or online.
This had quite an effect on the 13 year old me.
and it was a lot less grief than girls. Still remember listening to this on my mates walkman at school.
When I compiled
my DID, "Sheriff Fatman" was one of a few choices for the University years tracks
Good call!
I think i would probably do the same. Would be funnier to Have Surfin USM on Radio 4 though. (There will always be a part of me that is still 13 years old)
I suppose for me
it's not actually Scott Walker, since i assume people fall into three camps
a) they love him
b) they've not heard anything by him
c) they're not very keen on this avant-garde stuff he does these days, couldn't he just go back to proper singing?
The band/artist I guess that I try and get people into is Love and Money/James Grant. Here are L&M at their finest
and Mr Grant solo
3 from me
None of them leftfield (especially around here) but these are the three bands I'm most likely to mention if I'm asked what music I like.
This is the band I love the most right now.
This is the band that made me realise that some songs were written just for me.
And this is my favourite song.
The Replacements
[I Will Dare]
That is all.
Great, great band
Tim is my favourite of theirs, but Let It Be is pretty special.
Matthew Sweet
Although I'd have to say Blue Öyster Cult as well, although my love for them has become rather like Patrick's has for Supertramp.
I loved BOC as a teenager
and recently re-listened to all their albums from their debut to Fire of Unknown Origin. Have to say that either my tastes had changed or they haven't worn that well, since out of 8/9 albums I struggled to compile this 13 song sampler: http://open.spotify.com/user/boychild/playlist/38ZtEXXKKPwulyWR6K2B4n
BOC
is Boards Of Canada in my head, so this confused me somewhat!
You are correct, Simon. BOC is Boards Of Canada.
BÖC is Blue Öyster Cult.
Shame on you, Humphrey.
(Assumes smug, poncy stance)
I'm hearing
more cowbell here!
Sorry
Haven't worked out how to put inappropriate umlauts on!
I don't think Boards of Canada were around when I was a teenager (although according to wikipedia the correct abbreviation for them is BoC).
Vic Godard
Since I first saw Vic and the Subway Sect as a 17 year old back in 1978 (seems like another world) I've kept a special place in my heart for Vic. Unsung genius in my eyes.
Ambition
Popped up on the pod today. What. A. Song.
Top
No-one else likes/liked them. Not everything they did was good, but their best was transcendent.
Like "Life's Only Dreaming".
Not quite true
I still play my "Number One Dominator" CD single.
Pat Metheny
Always and forever, I'm afraid. Since before the Hep introduced him on the Whistle Test. Stripey shirts, bizarre hairdos - I care not a jot. I find his music and his playing inspiring and fulfilling. Apart from when it's pish (Zero Tolerance etc), but nobody's perfect.
Ed Kuepper
Probably the Richard Thompson of Australia, extremely varied career, not particularly well known but LOVED by his fans.
This is one of his best
The Way I Made You Feel
Depeche Mode
I had already established a penchant for pop electronica - Kraftwerk, Numan, Visage, Ultravox, Simple Minds. Also, my brother had picked up a wonderful single on Mute Records called TVOD c/w Warm Leatherette by The Normal.
I bought New Life because when I inspected the single in Woolworths, I saw that they were on Mute and it physically looked just like The Normal single!
I kind of liked the follw-up, Just Can't get Enough, but I didn't buy it - it was too cheesy, too poppy.
A few months later they were performing at my brother's university with Blancmange. I was there anyway to listen to a public debate with CND leader Bruce Kent the next day. I was a politically active, Angry Young Man and the Bruce Kent speech was the main reason why I was there. The Depeche Mode gig was very much an afterthought.
As a genuine surprise to me, the Depeche Mode experience trumped Monsignor BK's speech. The explosion of out-and-out joy in the crowd when they played Just Can't Get Enough was something I had never witnessed before. What was I thinking? It's an amazing song! And there were plenty more where that came from. Immediately, I bought the Speak and Spell LP and greedily hoovered up everything they did for the next 15 years, at least. Luckily for me, they developed and got better and have kept the quality up.
I was still an Angry Young Man about the arms race, Thatcher and much more besides, but Depeche Mode showed me that it's OK to lighten up a bit. I felt some relief because I couldn't get into the earnestness of the Gang of Four or Crass, no matter how hard I tried.
Not sure if I've banged on about Wire
*that* much on here but it always astonishes me how under-rated they are. They either get unfairly lumped with identikit punk bands or dismissed as awkward, angular and humourless. In fact, as well as making at times quite a sinister, arty racket they're also capable of churning out big, brassy pop songs like these:
They are my band too
I just love them. Everything about them.
The Fall are up there too but whereas they are always different always the same, Wire are just always different. Thrilling in fact.
When I can't think what I want to listen to I will always resort to Wire.
Thank you Dr
Wire are one of those bands i`ve missed though I think i`ve got that first track on a NME tape somewhere.
I`d dismissed them as,er..angular and awkward.
Will be investigating further, cheers
My pleasure!
The first 3 LPs on Harvest are pretty essential (Pink Flag, Chairs Missing and 154) and are Spotify-able.
The 1980s stuff is variable, but try a compilation called 'The A List' on Mute Records which is a great anthology of the best tracks.
Latest LP 'Red Barked Tree' is also well worth a listen.
True story
I don’t have a favourite Del Amitri song, but I do have an Alan Partridge-style funny story relating to them. Years ago I was working for ABC radio (the national broadcaster in Oz) at a predominantly news/talk/sport-based station not unlike Five Live. On the drive show one day the engineer cued-up Del Amitri’s Always The Last To Know to lead into the news.
Now, the presenter of the show was an old duffer who specialised in local politics and current affairs. He knew nothing about music and cared even less, but it fell to him to back-announce the meagre 2 or 3 records an hour the station played leading up the news/weather/traffic etc.
As the song ended, the presenter said, in all seriousness “And that was Del Amitri with Always The Last To Know. Well, DEL may be the last to know, but YOU can keep bang up to date with the news and weather on the hour. Stay tuned”.
Yes, he thought Del Amitri was the name of the man singing on the record he had just played.
The obvious answer is
Gary Numan. But I would also like to mention:
James
The Bolshoi
Big Country
Red Guitars
Green On Red Syd Straw Amy
Green On Red
Syd Straw
Amy Rigby
The Big Dish
Lone Justice
Peter Bruntnell
Maria McKee
Peter Bruntnell
I like him too - saw him support American Music Club (my own 'del Amitri' - see above). Nice bloke.
Peter Bruntnell the only
Peter Bruntnell the only 'pop star' I've ever actually had a conversation with. Bumped into him just before his set at The Riverside Club, Glasgow many years ago. Very amiable, modest and pleasant man...seemed surprised that I liked his album Camelot In Smithereens - didn't feel it represented him well ( this was about the time of the Normal For Bridgewater album ).
Got a copy of his new album
Got a copy of his new album - Black Mountain UFO - to review a while back. I'd very vaguely heard the name but I couldn't have told you any of his songs. Really rather enjoyed it - not a bad album at all and the songs were really beautifully written
...and Los Lobos
...and Los Lobos
I have the first Lone Justice album on vinyl
was Shelter any good?
I always found it a bit overblown and over-produced.
The first album is a snorter, though. I still listen to it. There's a good Best Of called This World Is Not My Home which has eight more tracks on it in the vein of the first album.
I have a lot of time
for Shelter. As Lenny says, it does have a more glossy production, but to me this doesn't adversely affect the quality of the songs and in some cases enhances them. The title track and Dixie Storms are particular standouts.
The Bible
"That bloke in the warehouse has got an album out" my manager at Andy's Records said, so we put it on. Loved it then, love it now, and when Eureka came out, I loved that even more. I must have worn out three cassette copies of that thing in the car over time. And suddenly it's now twenty five years ago! They were the new Steely Dan at one point you know, oh yes. http://www.thebibletheband.com/wtgbh/
Oh, and I'm going to see them next week in That There London. I'm terribly excited.
The Zombies
For me Colin Blunstone's voice is one of the greatest rock/ballad/soul voices to have emerged from these shores. He should be awarded 'national treasure' status, though that can be a bit of a millstone.
I'm just determined to catch his live performances whilst I can.
Oh I love the Zombies
...they and the Dels are permanent fixtures in my car.
Along with The Mighty Sparrow (early stuff), who is sadly under represented on YouTube
'Go 2' band?
If you'd asked a couple of years ago, XTC would be a safe bet (English Settlement onwards). Intelligent musically, layered meanings, diverse yet very individual. But then Duckworth Lewis led me to the Divine Comedy and the wider world of Mr Hannon and I find I'm saying all the same things, but more so about them. I can completely see why he may appear spectacularly irritating to many, but it works for me. And one particular pleasure is that now the years of frenetic record collecting are past, I enjoy pacing myself as I find more. There are whole albums left to explore but the ones I know are old friends. Why is it like a pair of slippers? Probably because there's usually something I find resonant in the lyrics (though I am no English Lady of a Certain Age, and neither's he), choosing topics not covered elsewhere.
Mind you, if you're talking about which bands you actually know most about, I imagine several of our teenage prog obsessions still fill our brains with trivia...
Three from me...folk, janglepop and cheese...
I guess if I had to single out some bands which I can't understand why the whole world doesn't simply adore there would be four that would spring to mind. There are two I haven't included as, perhaps being too mainstream and predictable for a chap of my age - Rush and the mighty Thin Lizzy. So for my "what do you mean you don't love...?" bands it would be:
Some folk of a distinctly proggie nature from Gordon Giltrap on OGWT.
An overlooked early 90s jangly pop band, River City People.
And finally equally loved and loathed around these parts. I'll go for "love" and here's a less well known part of their oeuvre for you.
Shack: I'll never get tired of this song
Of Mick's great vocal, John's brilliant guitar and the groove that Pete and Iain got on the live version around 2005-2006. Iain Templeton is a remarkable drummer.
The Soundtrack of Our Lives
I haven't mentioned them for a while, I've been good...
But they did *literally* change my life. It's a long story, sit me down in the corner at the next Massive get together, light my pipe and buy me a mild and bitter and I'll tell you all about it...
The new(ish) 'hits' collection....
...is superb. Highly recommended to members of the massive who need an introduction to this band.
My 'go to' band is Guided By Voices. A new album by the 'classic' line-up was announced yesterday. I went all a-quiver when I heard this news. They really, REALLY need to tour the UK though.
Glad to hear someone else who has heard of Soundtrack...!
I was also chuffed to hear about a new GBV album, I only really got into them just before they split up and have enjoyed bits of Pollard's solo stuff since then but really looking forward to some new GBV music!
Do the Collapse...
...is magnificent
This ^^^ right here....
...is true.
My favourite album too...
I much prefer this to all the lo-fi stuff, I mean "Bee Thousand" is the critically lauded one - there's even a book about it - but I think it sounds like me, banging a cardboard box with some knitting needles, my 9 year old niece strumming her bright pink plastic guitar and Mark E Smith wearing a stocking over his head singing into an old style tape recorder while we're all locked in a wardrobe. Nah, give me the highly polished powerful ROCK version of GBV any day!
Where's Sheev?
The answer, no doubt, would be David Bowie?
The Fall
The Fall are my Del Amitri.
Nope. It just doesn't sound right.
Wizards of Oz (sorry!)
Always wondered why The Go-Betweens & The Triffids were not massive. Tragically both bands struck by early deaths robbing us of great talents.
Yes, yes, yes to the Go Betweens
I have always appreciated the Triffids, but the Go Betweens are something else again as I absolutely love them. They have always been my go to band for sublime, emotional pop music which was not afraid to be intelligent, if not downright pseudy, but always with soul.
Numerous examples (Bachelor Kisses, Spring Rain, Part Company, The House Jack Kerouac Built spring to mind) but words cannot express how much I love this particular song, Bye Bye Pride
The same song revisited, this time so poignant in light of the sad loss of Grant McLennan
My default bands
mainly Fatima Mansions or anything by Cathal Coughlan. I know there's a few other takers on here.
But also James Yorkston, who is just a superb songwriter.
And the Butthole Surfers.
And garnering fewest supportive voices, Killdozer.
There's a few smaller bands bang on about to general indifference. Slow Down Tallahassee made two great albums of hard hearted bubblegum indie pop before calling it a day.
The Hellset Orchestra also called time after 3 albums of OTT but straight faced guitar-free pomp rock. (last time I looked I accounted for fully a third of their listens on last.fm.
And local band Standard Fare are way better than their name. In the slightly odd way of things these days, I'm not aware of too many glowing reports in the Sheffield Star, but they did make top 10 songs of last year in the New York Times...
Laura Nyro
From her caterwauling classics - those strange but fantastic lyrics and manic time signature changes - through to her slightly dippy vegetarian pop-soul of her later years, I've been a huge bore about her for years. And like all great bores, I bridle when a bunch of no-talents are said to be "influenced" by her by lazy journalists...see Rumer etc...
It is slightly incredible - aged just 20 knocking out these complex little pop masterpieces and seeing them hit the top 10 one after the other in the late 60s - albeit by other people.
And then the pinnacle - being able to watch Frank Sinatra looking mightily pissed off in a bacofoil suit joining the Fifth Dimension for a wierd ragtime version of Sweet Blindness.
As someone says in the comments - don't think he took the suit home after the show.
Don't have a favourite band....
Okay that's a lie as the popular tags thingy below can testify to my passion for Stackridge. As a teenage fan I could always be found backstage obtaining autographs. When the band disappeared I could be found on internet forums with fellow obsessives trying to track them down and swapping rare recordings. This all led to the band reforming, releasing new material and playing weekend gigs. I own email addresses incorporating their name and it's also a name I use on other websites (except The Word).
I always claim that I owe the best job I ever had to Stackridge. When visiting friends at Leeds Uni in the early 1970's I found out Stackridge were playing the nearby Leeds Poly. I had to go and see them. Within a year I was enrolling at the very same Poly, 2 years later I was a sabbatical officer booking the bands. 20 years after that I became the Financial Controller at the G-MEX Centre in Manchester because I had the experience of working on concerts - part of my job was to make the settlement with concert promoters after every gig. Everyone from Phil Collins, Prince, Oasis, Bjork, Meat Loaf, Prodigy, etc.
Stackridge - The Day The World Stopped Turning
some great stuff......
on this thread, but some real pants too. Nice to see.
Edwyn Collins anyone?
The Waterboys
And here is why.
Was there a better live band on the planet in 1986?
The Bluetones
Having seen them on their "Farewell Tour" last week, almost 15 years after I first did, I'd like to nominate Hounslow's finest (only?) 6 albums of ever-decreasing commercial fortunes and live audiences, but always capable of a great gig and of putting a smile on my face, which I think is the least music is supposed to do.
Expecting To Fly contains their biggest/most well-known songs and is an almost-but-not-quite classic album (at least of its time), but the following are from the under-rated Science And Nature, soon after which they were relieved of their major label contract and barely troubled the radio or the charts thereafter.
'Keep The Home Fires Burning'
'Mudslide'
Slight return
gets frequent airplay round here.
The Bluetones best-of...
...is fabulous. One or two duffers (Persuasion, After Hours) but any record containing Are You Blue Or Are You Blind, Bluetonic, If, Solomon Bites The Worm, Slight Return, Sleazy Bed Track etc. is a winner in my view. They had a few years of being a really great band.
And lo
Having imbibed, and feeling like treating myself on my birthday, "Expecting to Fly" has been purchased.
Your fault Bob. I'm blaming you entirely.
PM Dawn
Most of my fave bands/singers have at least some measure of street cred about them (The Fall, Gil Scott Heron, Wire, New Fast Automatic Daffodils, Loop Guru, The Beat, Half Man Half Biscuit).
But right up there above them all (except The Fall) are the criminally underrated PM Dawn. Largely written off as one-hit wonders, they actually produced 5 albums (to rapidly diminishing returns), every one of which is consistently gorgeous.
They seemed to lose what scrap of street cred they may have had when KRS One hijacked one of their gigs and slagged them off. Plugged away through the 90s with each album selling fewer & fewer copies, until their 5th album, Fucked Music, didn't even get an official release and was only available in limited copies directly from the band themselves.
Anyway, you could listen through all five albums without needing to skip a track- difficult to recommend one, but Jesus Wept is particularly beautiful. Just stick an album on, sink into your beanbag, close your eyes and float away.
Obligatory youtubage: I'd die without you, from The Bliss Album.
Bastards. Hate 'em.
They beat Jellyfish to the Best International Newcomer award at the 1991 Brits. A travesty.
Not that I hold grudges or anything..
Just been reading to find out what became of them
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P.M._Dawn
seems that Prince Be (the big fella) has had a couple of big strokes over the past few years and lost a leg. Poor chap.
And what is all the rage right now? Hip-hop influenced, trippy slowed-down hazy music which references/samples 80s Yacht rock and pop music. Sound familiar?
KRS One
is a pompous oaf.
A mate of mine went to see BDP in Brighton in 1989. He got 25 minutes of "entertainment", mostly consisting of preachy bellowing. Scott La Rock had a lucky escape.
Yoko Ono
This should close the thread ...
Chumbawamba.
Up to and including Tubthumping. Brilliant.
The Jayhawks...
...and here's why:
I'd Run Away. Great tune, great harmonies, great sound.
It's Immaterial
Song, in particular, is a masterpiece. Long lost album House for Sale is forthcoming, apparently.
That Petrol Emotion & Big Audio Dynamite
Most go for the 1st bands The Undertones and The Clash but above were (ARE) great