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Who's consistently good?
Posted by tkdmart on 23 May 2009 - 2:08pm.
Who, musically speaking, never lets you down?
Is there anyone?
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Entertainment For Lively Minds
Who, musically speaking, never lets you down?
Is there anyone?
Steely Dan
Old stuff, new stuff, I love it all.
Newer stuff - consistently good...
Old stuff - consistently brilliant
Seconded
I mean "thirded"
Fourthed...
...everything by the Dan, old and new, is in a class of its own.
yes
Newer stuff
consistently very good. But the older albums are in another class altogether.
Hmm
Some of these are not active anymore;
The Triffids
The Go Betweens
Eyeless in Gaza
Abba
Handsome Family
In fact only two are currently producing new music, so i'm not sure that really fits your remit.
Could think of a few more, but then a long forgotten clunker of an lp invades my memory.
Great shout
for the Handsome Family. Can do no wrong.
That's a big ask
To be never let down, musically or otherwise. While I admire your optimism, I can't think of anyone who hasn't the odd 'off' moment and let something substandard slip through. There are plenty of people who I am prepared to forgive for the occasional lapse, because the rest is so good and I can hope for a return to form.
LOW(e) and FOW
Two artists Nick Lowe - even his CD of outtakes and b-sides is excellent and Fountains of Wayne - the only problem they cause me is the gap between releases but then I suppose that that's what helps the quality control, I can't see either of those artists releasing their "Sandinista". I'm a big XTC, Sparks and Elvis Costello fan and I would like to include them in the list but I just can't.
Pearl Jam
for me they've never had a wobble .. their last album possibly. Horses for courses an all that though.
my current faves Biffy Clyro have yet to disappoint too.
Nick Cave
As far as i'm aware, Nick Cave has never really put out a bad album has he? Maybye his style has changed a few times, but theres not really anything of his you could really call "bad" is there? Live shows pretty good too.
And on that note, he's just been confirmed for Glastonbury! Big time win!
Agreed
You're so lucky, seeing him at Glasto.
I could..
..(and do, often) call everything he's ever done derivative toss.
Jazzers mainly
I've yet to be let down by Thelonious Monk, or by Charles Mingus.
I love everything by the Fleshtones, too : however I am aware that their output is variable, and they act as kryptonite on my critical faculties.
Gillian Welch and David Rawlings...
and of course Supertramp.Stackridge
Then, now and in the future - I've heard snippets of their new CD coming out in July. Live they are always a good night out. Even Mr Mick gets to you eventually.
Seems people have one good album or...
...just have the knack for great music.
I can't fault much that Conor Oberst of Bright Eyes or Colin Meloy of The Decemberists have done - always excellent. The list of people with one good album is much longer.
Ian McNabb and Karl Wallinger (World Party)
Actually, that isn't to say I like everything they have done, but both are insufficiently prolific to be in the league of Costello or Thompson who consistently entertain but have proportionately more dross amongst the jewels overall. Not much, mind.
Technical question: how do you write a line thru' something, as PC sensibly did?
Strike
It's just the html tag "Strike".
I learnt how to do that today...
and, my dear Retropath, it was your legendary aversion to Messers Hodgson, Davies and Co. that prompted my attempt at japery.
A further example:
Gilbert O'Sullivan's body of work, when taken as a whole, p***es all over much-trumpeted 'artists' like Bob Dylan and John Lennon.I thought as much.
Actually I quite like Indelibly Stamped.
100th podcast
Frazer - Now you know what you've learnt this week!
Ian McNabb and Karl Wallinger
I agree that both these guys were overlooked in the 80/90s - both have produced many excellent songs
Grandaddy/Jason Lytle
Jason Lytle has never written a bad song. He can't help himself - he's made out of melody. And Bob Dylan (obviously!)
Clem Snide
Every Album is a winner as is Eef Barzalay's solo stuff.
Wilco too
Tom Waits/John Martyn/Warren Zevon
These guys don't seem to have done much wrong...
Supertramp and The Waterboys
Both have had the odd bad track bud generally class all the way.
Based on this post
Based on this post
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/confessions
I'd say there's another guy batting "one for one"...
Eels
Pretty consistent if you ask me.
Eels
I'd second that.
Thirded
(althou Shootenany was more than a bit weak)
I'd also unashamedly put up Elvis Costello, Waits and XTC.
Oh and They Might be Giants
Fourthed
Looking forward to Hombre Lobo on June 2. Not sure if the Taleban beard is a wise career move, though.
He's already tried the
Unabomber look
so guess he felt it was good to go for a different approach
If I remember correctly
he launced that look on September 10, 2001.
I Like Birds
I luuurvvveee Eels. Except when they did a grungey concert in boiler suits at The Astoria in Spring '06. Godawful, and you can get the DVD of it on the official website.
Nah
that was great too. a complete volte face from the 'Strings' tour. And the 15 min version of Not Ready Yet gave you the chance to stretch your legs, go to the bar, browse the merch stalls and make a few phone calls
Agreed
I've got all the albums and had been led to believe that Eels live could be a bit erratic but after the loving the live at the Town Hall album I decided to get a ticket at the next opportunity. It was that Astoria gig. It's put me off a bit (it's not put me off Eels, I'm very impressed with the new album) ... perhaps I should give him/them another chance.
Little Feat
Every one a winner! From early psycho Americana through Nawleans funky and even the "fuckin' Weather Report" stage. Post Lowell only really good rather than consistently excellent....oh that other bands could be "only" really good.
Why - fantastic songs, fantastic playing, knowing where the groove is, not sounding like anyone else and always sounding like themselves. Who else can you say that about?
The Fall?
Well, the "not sounding like anyone else and always sounding like themselves" bit anyway.
Not so sure about the songs, playing or the groove though.
(still love 'em to bits, mind...)
Spangles, they're great !
May I draw your attention to "I Am Curious Oranj" especially the stage show with Michael Clark cavorting around like a big jessie. Not good.
Might have improved
with thus curious character
Supertramp...
minus perhaps 'knowing where the groove is'.
And can I just preempt someone adding 'and minus fantastic songs' below....
The Feat
R U serious ? What's the point of anything after 'The Last Record Album'. All that jazz-rock wittering afterwards was just so much wank. Have they ever come up with another 'Willin' ? ....Thought not.
RANDY
NEWMAN...OK Im off
and
I´ll fight anyone who says it ain´t so
You'll get no argument from me...
...another vote here for Mr. Newman
What was that?
Did I hear someone shout "Faust"?
Randy Newman
The clue is in the name. A pudgy guy who wants a hot chick. His whole career is based on being an outsider.
Oh,
and Teenage Fanclub.
Depeche Mode
One of the few bands that have a unique sound. Within seconds you know it's them and only could be them - even if they are standing in a line playing recorders.
Exciter wasn't all that, erm, exciting...
I'm a big DM fan, and would put Violator in the top 10 albums of all time, but have to say that Exciter left me pretty cold. Other than I Feel Loved, little of it was especially memorable. I felt Ultra, too, was a below their usual impeccable standard. So I'm deilghted they've returned to form with Playing The Angel and Sounds of The Universe. Just my opinion, mind.
Still "good" though...
I put Ultra up along with their very best, so we are not seeing eye-to-eye there but I agree with the spirit of what you are saying about Exciter. However, even Exciter - a low point - contains The Sweetest Condition, Dream On, I Feel Loved and I Am You and these are wonderful enough to rate the record as "good".
I stand corrected
I'd forgotten TSC and Dream On. Great songs. But Ultra is still one of my least-played DM albums. The grungy sound just didn't work for me, and I thought Alan Wilder was very sadly missed.
Talking Heads...
...never let me down. From Talking Heads 77 through to the brilliant, underrated Naked - I love them all. No one else sounds remotely like them.
Agreed, they were very consistent...
but 'True Stories' wasn't the greatest, was it? You're spot on about 'Naked'... they really went out on a high.
Gnashes teeth...
...No, you're right - can't say I listen to True Stories that often, although Wild Wild Life is a great song to start the day with - like a quadruple espresso !
Studio good, Soundtrack bad
True Stories the proper album was excellent. I thought that the True Stories soundtrack album was the dodgy one and I probably only played it about 5 times - remember the days when, if you wanted to hear a relatively obscure album you had to buy it first?!
I concur. Only really got into them in the last few years.
Even their originally unreleased offcuts/demos/ were great.
In Asking Land is fantastic, to say nothing of the rehearsal version of And She Was from the re-issue series which wipes the floor with the actual single to these ears.
By the way Talking Heads fans, their original CBS Demo tape is available in full, and in pretty great quality 'on the web' if you catch my drift.
Talking Heads - and you
can include David Byrne's solo work which is consitently interesting and consistently good - words that don't always hang out together
If you'd care to name your favourites...
I'd be really interested as I've not followed DB's solo work very closely.
Knee Jerk
I would agree it it wasn't for the fact he released Songs From The Knee Plays which is a little bit um... avant garde for my tastes.
Away from the Rockosphere
I think DB is one perhaps like Ry Cooder (another consistently good contender) who is at his happiest at the margin - outside the mainstream. I do not think other than the initial astonishing collaboration with Eno "My Life in the Bush of Ghosts", the best of his solo work is quite as good as the best of Heads - although all his solo stuff is always worth listening to and better than most people's best. My favourites are "Feelings" and "Grown Backwards".
It's actually in all the work that sits away from the Rockosphere - "The Catherine Wheel" (heartily recommended for lovers of "Bush of Ghosts", "The Forest (any Tinariwen fanciers should pop in here), the soundtrack for "The Last Emperor" - where, for me, his best non-Heads work is to be found.
Anyone, who has been invited to collaborate with both Philip Glass and Dizzee Rascal must have something going for him - right?
Just in the process of discovering his soundtrack for HBO's Mormon blockbuster (not a phrase you hear everyday) "Big Love". Initial impressions - again - interesting and good.
http://open.spotify.com/album/15keZT0XtxMncgVBAyJMEs
The Blue Nile
You wait and wait for the next albun and it never disappoints.
Probably another five years for the next but you know it'll be worth it.
Commended to the house
Only another few years until we get to own this beauty (it starts at 1:30 if you want to miss the inaudible banter, something you didn't always get with The Nile)
Absolutely
I saw them perform this nearly 3 years ago in Edinburgh - so don't hold your breath!
Sigur Ros
Would also say The Smiths didn't do even a bad b-side and Sparklehorse are just about perfect. And I second Blue Nile, Teenage Fanclub and Grandaddy/Jason Lytle.
Gotta agree
Got all Mark Linkous stuff and Sigur ros and love all of it.
Similarly Mark Kozelek / Red House Painters.
Old Ramon
He wasn't up to much IMHO.
kraftwerk
FACT
Beat me to it
absolutely spot on
Although I love then
There are ho-hum moments. Personally, the Tour De France soundtracks and Electric Cafe.
Not quite seconded. One and a halfed.
The first (double) album was pretty much unlistenable and I never thought all that much of Ralf and Florian but after that, I'm right with you.
It is half man, mum
Half Man Half Biscuit have not just been consistently good, but have got gradually greater. For a band that began being compared to Splodgenessabounds (I don`t wear stripey kecks, babe) and The M**c Lads (how? tell me, how so?)they have got better and better musically and are in a field of one lyrically.
Peel said of the mighty Fall `always the same; always different` (I paraphrase, of course), he could have said the same of HMHB.For a band that peaked commercially in 1986/7 and most people think split up thereafter (always, always `Fookin ell it`s Fred Titmus...loved that.What became of them?`)and have the most annoying pedantic fans *waves* this side of Dylan(see chrisrands lyric site)
HMHB
Oh get a life ! Vaguely amusing but could you listen to a whole album of vaguely amusing play on words non songs ? What HMHB are about is amusing song titles and not much else.
Yawn.....
FAQ, rag.
Weren't you someone else a year or so back, curiously familiar style?
Edit: 1 year 25/52, so maybe you were just you.
Supertramp
The UK love of Supertramp continues to amaze. I am generally guarded with negative opinion but they are a band I would walk across nails to turn off. An early contributor mentioned the Go-Betweens who I saw live twice and once counted as a band fan. Now, however, I think that their lyrics are remarkably cringe-worthy and their melodies non-existent and musicianship laughable. They have one great song, however, - Bye Bye Pride which just transcends their limitations unbelievably.
Consistently good, though? Ron Sexsmith. Amazing run. Has a voice that can divide punters but I think its a fantastic instrument.
I'm not sure the UK does have a great love of Supertramp...
and they are certainly amongst the Massive's less favoured bands. I, however, like them. I can easily understand why others might not, but they were one of the first bands I really liked and my affection has remained constant.
I'm with you
on Supertramp, everygood. Consistent, certainly....
Their whiney tosh blighted my teenage pirate radio listening days, and witnessing them at the Reading Festival in 1975 was like watching paint dry.
But without the lovely smell of fresh paint.
Pink Floyd
Always interesting, great musicianship and could cut it live unlike many.
I agree with you generally...
but Floyd's work is marred by the excrutiating pile of dung that was 'A Momentary Lapse Of Reason' - truly a horrible record - and the only marginally better 'The Division Bell'.
..and The Wall
..which only had 2 decent tracks (Run Like hell & Comfortably Numb, since you asked).
Of course they never bettered Relics.
Hate to disagree, but...
For me The Wall is the greatest album of all time. I said it, and I'm on the internet so it must be true. :)
Boo Hewerdine
All The Bible's stuff is good and his solo records are all gorgeous - he also writes consistently brilliant songs for other singers. 'Baptist Hospital' is my fave album of his...
Here's a live one:
Think The Word mag should give him some coverage!
Ron Sexsmith...
...a listen to any track on any CD would be a rewarding experience, in my opinion.
Agree
wholeheartedly.
Blue Boy?
Both my wife and I are big fans of Ron, but neither of us are too fond of Blue Boy as a whole. The other disappointment is that Steve Earle produced it.
not his greatest, perhaps...
but Cheap Hotel, Parable and Thirsty Love are three of my favourite Ron songs.
Belle and Sebastian...
... have never let me down!
The Church
The Church - consistently brilliant since the early 80s
another vote for The Blue Nile - I'm looking forward to them recording the 3 "new" songs on Youtube
that bloke from the crossroads
robert johnson was consistently rather excellent
You don't mean this bloke then...
Criminally absent from Youtube...
...is the single released by the actor Paul Henry, which I only saw once on TV (pre VCR days). It was quite a sad, fragile ballad and the video had him walking around looking lonely, standing on bridges and throwing stones into the river. Lyric :
"Here I am, waiting at the crossroads*
waiting at the crossroads of my life
wishing I could find...
...a wife."
*cleverrr!
As soon as I saw this thread,
I thought: Nick Cave. As that's already been said, I'll mention Elbow and Doves.
Also apart from those two albums released on the same day in the early 90's, Springsteen has rarely put a foot wrong.
And Tom Waits and The Decemberists have been said as well I think.
Doves
Sorry but I've got to say that the latest album doen't really do it for me. Do I need to give it more time?
Not sure about Doves...
But definitely agree with Elbow!
Lambchop.
Ten albums (6 in the last decade), all subtly different, all genuinely excellent.
I really can't bang on about this band enough: generally overlooked, but make complex, beautiful, funny, intelligent music, that really doesn't ever let you down.
Thank you
Nick, although I own more than one of their CD's I had forgotten how consistently good they are and remedied this unfortunate situation by playing through everything on Spotify.
Lambchop
Yes they are consistent. Consistently boring after 'Nixon'. I saw them at Somerset House around 2005 and the seagulls overhead drowned out a 17 piece band.....and were more interesting.
Kate Bush, anyone?
Not the most prolific artist, sadly, but she rarely puts a foot wrong. I'm not mad about The Red Shoes, although it has some good songs (marred by a bit too much Prince and not enough oomph), but as soon as she starts up you know it's her and you'll hear something that sounds like nobody else. Who else could sing about Pi and make it sound mysterious, wonderful and strangely eerie (and no, don't say Tori Amos - there's interestingly idiosyncratic and then there's just plain bizarre)? A unique woman who should be treasured.
Yep...
...must agree. A fantastic artist.
Another vote
for Kate from me. And The Red Shoes contains what will probably be the only song ever to feature both Prince and Lenny Henry (and the Trio Bulgarka!) "Why Should I Love You", and it's also quite wonderful.
kate bush consistent sure
rubbish mind you
Radiohead
They have produced seven albums now and, apart from their debut, they range from absolute classic (OK Computer, In Rainbows, Kid A) to brilliant (The Bends, Hail to the Thief, Amnesiac). Not to mention their raft of great B-sides. The most consistently excellent band around today I would say.
Excellent as they are ...
I still think the quality has been variable. No argument over OK Computer, In Rainbows and Kid A - I think The Bends may also be a contender for absolute classic. However - I personally thought Hail To The Thief was poor by comparison and Amnesiac sounds like Kid A's cast offs.
Still utterly brilliant band mind!
Radiohead?
A bunch of miserable sods who shoud realise that music is suppossed to be FUN and ENJOYED!
Miserable sods?
I can't be havin that! Fair enough they're a little bit melancholic sometimes....
Anyway, songs like Motion Picture Soundtrack and Let Down are some of the most beautiful tracks I've ever heard. They might not be 'happy songs' but they make me smile whenever I hear them:)
Yep...
.. that Van Gogh as well, I wish he could have cheered up a bit.
I've seen Radiohead twice
once in '92 supporting the Frank and Walters in the Edinburgh Venue [capacity: 300] and again in 2008 Glasgow Green [capacity : lots]
To be honest they were completely turgid and underwhelming compared to their youthful wide eyed days.
Radiohead
Could you BE more right?!
They Might Be
Giants.
And another vote for Teenage Fanclub. I have thought about it, and I can't think of a single song from either I don't like.
They might be...
Sadly, I can never see their name without remembering what Bob Geldof once called them. Cruel, not big nor clever. But I couldn't help laughing.
Good and bad ...
It has to be Bob Dylan ... always consistently good, even when he's bad.
Elbow
Get better and better across 4 albums.
But will Guy and the boys match up to Family? 7 albums, all different, all excellent. And no-one since has ever sounded like them.
Avoiding the obvious?
Beatles obviously, but also Kate Bush, Steely Dan, Ben Folds, Blue Nile, Smiths, Talk Talk, Duke Ellington, Miles Davies, Monk, Mingus and a fair few other jazzers.
Matthew Sweet
Criminally undervalued and unfailingly excellent. Apart from his new album Sunshine Lies which is just good.
Who's consistently good
Yes they are
(Apart from Face Dances and Its Hard)
Endless Wire? I like it!
Anything up there for The Smiths....?
Those aside
The Jam
The Clash (yes, even Sandinista!)
Yep
Loving all of those choices :D
Tori Amos
She's something of a "marmite" artist, but I'm firmly on her side. She's never made a bad record, and her last few have been amazingly strong and consistent.
Never one to pass up an opportunity to praise Shawn Colvin, I'd also include her; even her least good album (Whole New You) is streets ahead of 90% of the "competition".
The National
Consistently brilliant throughout all four of their albums.
Van der Graaf Generator
I have my favourites, of course, but every one of their LPs is a gem to be savoured.
Have you...
had a bath lately ?
Eric Dolphy
In picking an artist who was consistently good, I suppose it's cheating a bit to go for one who died young because, obviously, those who are still making records at 83 have a lot more opportunities to produce rubbish.
But by any standards, Eric Dolphy was consistently great:
He was great as a leader...
- Outward Bound
- Out There
- Far Cry
- Live at the Five Spot
- Iron Man / Conversations
- Out to Lunch
... and he was absolutely astonishing as a 'sideman'
- with Andrew Hill on "Point of Departure"
- with John Coltrane on the "Africa/Brass Sessions"
- with Oliver Nelson on "Blues & the Abstract Truth"
- with Mal Waldron on "The Quest"
- with Booker Little on "Out Front"
- with Charles Mingus on the great european concert recordings from 1964
That keening alto sax, that delicate, bird-like flute, and - best of all - the jaw-dropping pioneering work with the bass clarinet.
Truly one of a kind. If you've never heard Eric, the music, thankfully, is all still out there. And you're in for an extravagant treat.
Crowded House
Crowded House
Been through all my favourites - Stranglers, XTC, Beatles, Nirvana, Blur, Toad The Wet Sprocket but they are the only band that have produced consistently great albums.
Neil Finn's solo work never stood up to it, although his collaborations with Tim Finn always did
Always wonderful
Lloyd Cole, every record from 1995 - altough not a huge number - have been superb. For those who fancy it - Love Story (1995), The Negatives (2000), Music in a Foreign Language (2003)and Anti-Depressant (2008) are (music journalism cliche, ahoy) masterclasses in lyric writing. Never makes an unfulfilling record.
Sandinista
John Waite: it's not a case of 'even Sandinista' as much as 'especially Sandinista', I love all the Clash records, all 350,000 versions of them now, but I love going back to Sandinista.
Robert Wyatt's...
consistently good
People disappoint me constantly
so why should musicians be any different?
Saint Etienne especially Bob Stanley ...
.. great band, consistently brilliant, great compiler, great writer, consistently underrated.
Roddy Frame ...
.. quality songwriter, great guitarist, top class performer, all round good bloke
Edwyn Collins ...
.. likewise
Stereolab
20 odd albums...not one bad one.
Seconded
Was just scrolling down to put that at the bottom and found this there already! In total agreement.
PJ Harvey
Even the much-lamented UH Huh Her actually proves itself over time.
Laughin' Len Cohen....
....just gets better and better; "ten new songs" is a masterpiece; and his recent live shows are a joy to behold.
Well there's this artist...
..called Richard Thompso.....
FOW
I just thought of another one. The Fountains Of Wayne. Even their B-sides album is superb. I think I could only pick out about 3 weak tracks through all their albums. Pity they're not more prolific but maybe that's because the quality control kicks in.