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Who has a 90% male audience?
Posted by David Hepworth on 15 October 2009 - 7:34am.
I just read a review of a very well-known artist playing a big show in a major city. The review, which I'm pretty confident is accurate, says that the audience was 90% male. Now who would that be? It made me think.
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I'm going to guess
Kylie Minogue ?
attractive women
nearly always have a female following. Ladies (well some of them) want to be her and men want to bed her. Apart from her massive gay following who just like to dance to silly music... oh and me who likes some of her album fever and the songs she did with nick cave but who doesn't find her remotely attractive. (I am a bloke BTW)
**Spoiler Alert**
EDIT - I have just read down the thread and have egg on my face as David Hepworth has revealed Kylie to be the act in question. Though it sounds to me from the description that the gig was one designed for the gay community. I certainly know a number of women who passionately enjoy Kylie.
But I assume that Robert C was anticipating the gay audience angle anyway and well done for him for getting it right. I only regret that I never got a chance to play the game :-(
Bob Dylan
if the sentiments of my GLW are anything to go by.
dylans always had
a female following. All the ladies in my family who were around in the 60's practically worship him.
Perhaps the different genders generally evaluate music in a different way, with men more likely to be anoraks about it, and dylan certainly has a lot of appeal to the list makers amongst us but that doesn't mean women don't like him! They just like him differently.
And some women like making lists and wearing anoraks ;-)
Was it
that well known and much loved Rhondda based stripper Chesty Morgan?
Just trying to remember a post by a woman in this blog.
I don't think I have ever seen one.
There's quite a few
User names are not always gender-specific. But yes, the 90% is probably about right for us.
Are you sure it's that low?
Anyway - as any fule kno gurls are soppy.
I'd hope it was 75% male
just cos that would be nicer. There are lots of women who I know who are geeky and discursive about music. Maybe we need to do more outreach work. Do the ladies know they're invited? The doors have been shut for so many years.
Colin H
Did some outreach work back in April...
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/hands-whos-a-girl
well that's nice but...
it was more inreach by the look of it. Nice to see there are ladies present anyway. I occasionally get a bit spooked by being amongst so many other men. Even though I'm a bloke I generally am in mixed company in all non cyber environments.
The only other comment board I've ever really got involved with was the woman's hour message boards
. Though I can tell you there is a higher percentage of men on those boards than there is women on here... although those men were not as pleasant often as the men you find here.I had to leave those boards as all the heated debates were taking over my life literally. I spent all my time trying to get people to get on with each other. Too much work. Dunno how Fraser Lewry is so patient and he has proper control, not like someone who is posting.
Interestingly the BBC has stopped the woman's hour notice board, claiming it doesn't have the facilities to deal with it. That may be true. It was a very friction filled forum. Engaging though.
Some of the people there made a whole "the real woman's hour notice board" for themselves. But even though I liked many of them, it felt a bit too cliquey for me to consider joining. Especially as I like debate as well as politeness and empathy with each other.
Anyway there's some late night wittering for everyone. Sorry about that!
There are a few
members of the more enlightened gender amongst us.
Sexist!
What's wrong
with being sexy?
That's right
You're right! As Fraser says above, about 90%.
This makes a change I was thinking recently about
this having heard David Essex on the radio the other day repeating the classic interview cliche " Yeah, my audience is hugely diverse we get everyone from young kids to oldies". I usually think yeah right particularly about these hoards of kids crowding into some 1960's crooner. It's touching this need to relevant after all this time.
As to your act is it Mott the Hoople?
One of those
Hop Hip fellows. Snoopy Rascal or whatever he's called.
you're pretty far off
on that one. Most hip hop acts are enjoyed by women and men. They generally make music you can dance to and danceable music cuts across gender.
I know lots of women who like hip hop. And Dizzee Rascal is even more likely to have a female following than Snoop Dog as he is much less misogynistic.
Though it is a sad fact that a lot of women like misogynistic music and not always because they turn a blind eye to it (the way many of us do from time to time when the rest of a musicians output is excellent). Sometimes its just something they relate to.
Don't know if he's touring anywhere but my guess is
Richard Thompson, someone male who plays the guitar I'd say.
That narrows it down
Sherlock.
Well said!
Gee I love internet tough guys, posting that must have made you glad you woke up this morning.
I apologise
I wasn't trying to be scathing, but that's obviously how it came across.
Personally,
I thought it came accross as funny. As such, I moved it back up a mark.
Andrew Collins
wanted to see you after school Jonah...
Email
Jonah, did you receive either of the two emails I sent to you re: the religion thread? I was hoping for a reply.
How many
Richard Thompsons are there?
I was
going to say RT. How about Ry Cooder or Neil Young?
Is it shirley bassey
or Cher?
I only say this because one time we went to seen The Breeders at The Astoria and it was a rescheduled saturday night gig and they were holding G.A.Y afterwards it was funny to see one cue of balding checked shirted blokes filing out next another line of balding blokes (some with checked shirts) cueing to see Danni Minogue.
Likewise
I saw The Soundtrack of Our Lives at The Astoria and experienced same queue surprise as I left.
Also, the massive G - A - Y neon lights flashed on behind them while the band were rocking, to the hilarity of band and audience, a ruse of their lights man I suspect. If there is a more hetro-looking front man in rock, I haven't seen him.
Rob Halford?
.
Ginger from the wildhearts
once temporarily changed his band name from the silver ginger 5 to "Gingers Angry Youth" purely to use those particular stage lights at the astoria...
Same..
But with Blue Oyster Cult.
How many Police Academy Blue Oyster Bar jokes got cracked that night?
Well, it's certainly not the last three
I've been to see Thompson, Cooder and Young many times and while the men may be in a majority they certainly wouldn't make up 90% of the audience. Any act that skews middle-aged tends to attract couples.
Bananarama
According to a review I read of their concert in London on Monday there were 2 women in an audience of about 250. (Although I don't think they really count as major artist, apparently they still only got 250 despite giving tickets away)
Not sure
Keren & Sara dancing in the crowd (while the backing tapes play a way)makes them audience members!
If the post
had said act not artist - it would be Steely Dan. Or Iron Maiden.
Maiden
Always attracted a fair number of "chicks", at least from my memory.
was this
in New Zealand, Fraser?
No
Hammersmith Odeon, innit. Several tours.
ah yes, Hammersmith
- well known Kiwi stronghold.
Bet they went for fush and chups after.
Roger Waters?
Lou Reed?
It's very interesting...
...the way this winkles out our preconceptions, which often don't have much to do with reality. There may be many acts whose fans are predominantly male (Bob Dylan, the Rolling Stones, most guitar groups) but that doesn't mean that they would draw an audience that was 90% male. That's a very heavy majority. I would guess that the crowd at the football at Wembley last night would be 90% male, just as I would guess that the audience that Take That attract is 90% female.
The correct answer to my original question, to my great annoyance, was RobertC's right at the top of the page. The artist was Kylie Minogue who debuted in America the other night at the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York City where, according to the New York Times, the audience was 90% male (and, one most assume, predominantly gay).
Heaving with eager lasses
I am sure the audience for Lou Reed’s Metal Machine Trio tour was as heaving with eager lasses as the Spands reunion.
Lucky guess.
I hope that's the reason for your annoyance, though.
edit - I have on occassion accidentally elicited a rather negative response, you see.
I'd say
blooming well played that man!
Hardly anyone ever gets a DH quiz question first post - sure a special prize should be winging its way to RobertC as we speak?!
*ahem*
Yes, well done that man. But I got the Elvis' grandson one first pop, too.
*marks up scorecard*
I do remember that...
now you mention it.
*adopts unacceptably patronising tone usually reserved for 4 year olds*
And well done you...
Where's elhombre's prize?
:-)
I drank it
*but thanks for remembering, really, I'm touched*
(in the Scottish sense, of course)
Only annoyed...
...because you got it so quickly.
I saw Kylie at Wembley Arena in the early 90s
and I think your assumption is about right.
Really?
I've seen Kylie in recent years, and it was nowhere near 90% male, nor 90% gay. Most of the gigs I go to are predominantly male (that probably says more about me than the gig-going population), but not many make 90%. Magazine's reformation gig might have been close.
which artist has 90%
female audience then?
Alanis
Morrisette
70% of whom have been let down in love recently
but ironically
meet the love of their lives coming out of the maiden gig next door...
when they discover
they go to the same body piercing "artist"
but it does cause a few problems some months later ...
i realise you didn't ask for my opinion, but you oughta know ...
They split
when - oddly - she meets a Norwegian Black Metalist who helps her with the right change when topping up her Oyster card.
And he, sitting at home one night in the besdsit they've shared, picks up her acoustic guitar and puts a Joni Mitchell record on. Love at first sight on both counts.
Bon Jovi
Based on my field trip to Milton Keynes Bowl a few years back with the GLW. It was penance for the gigs that she'd suffered at my expense
90% Female Audience
How about Shania Twain?
I wonder how Kylie feels about that?
Would she be glad to get the bums on seats or would she be a little disapointed that her audiance is taking her reputation in that direction?
I think Kylie
has been consciously courting the pink pound for a good number of years, if that's your point.
Why would she be disappointed?
Kylie might be glad to get bums on seats.
The audience probably wouldn't, though..
It's Oscar Wilde's and PG Wodehouse's birthday this
week poor old blokes would be furious that the English language they raised so high could be brought so low with such weak and feeble mean spirited word play.
A tad pompous Chris, no?
Maybe he meant that they would of course be dancing...
wrote it after reading
about a bloke being kicked to death for standing up to "homophobes" (this was before the whole Jan moir thing) just fed up of lazy sexism and homophobia etc of course the easy reposte would be to tell me to "lighten up" which is what lazily offensive people say all the time instead of admitting their own mistake.
Chris..
It was a wee joke about gay men who, so I am told, like to look at other mens' bums. Had I made such a joke about straight men looking at the similar parts of ladies, would I be being heterophobic? Sexual harrassment, though, and offensive behaviour is decided by those who are harrassed or offended and if you are gay and feel offended by my post I apologise unreservedly.
90% Male
From Experience
Hardcore US punk gigs. 95% earnest young men.
As for London probably something Prog or of that ilk.
I'll guess at Marillion though Mott The Hoople is a good shout.
Marillion
have about 30-40% female fans these days, *ackshirely*.
It's not like the old days with Fish - that might well have been about 90% male.
As a female
I was thinking along prog lines...
But for Yes it would surely be more than 90%
hardcore US punk would be better served ...
... by a 95% audience of young men called Ernest
/coat
I always presume
That Paul Weller has a largely male audience but others disagree with me!
Slayer?
surely
I was
going to say that hot new Taliban stand-up, but then realised it would be nearer 99.9 per cent male
Those guys!
Those crazy guys!
and...
0.1% beards?
The only woman
I've found who likes Tindersticks is the lovely Miss Jude Rogers - surely they must have a predominately male fanbase.
Lady G
likes them actually. So that's two.
And me
That's three
Won't be KD Lang then....
Went to see her at SageGateshead last year. Safe to say, there were no queues at the gents toilets that night.
Amy Macdonald.
Went to see her a couple of years ago.
Felt very much in the minority.
So did my wife..
A night for comfortable shoes.
Thought it would be The Fall...
...or Half Man Half Biscuit
The Word magazine?
No, maybe that should be 99.9% Prove me wrong.
In response to the original question
In response to the original question, my first thought was Morrissey.
the who ,acker dacker
as David said guitar bands
Kraftwerk
Definitely at least 90% male audience. I know women, including my wife, who purport to like them, but in reality they can't stick with it the way blokes can. Small doses and everything.
Dang...
...double post