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Who came up with the phrase...
Posted by JustinQuirk on 12 November 2009 - 3:09pm.
For reasons to long to explain, a friend called me this morning to see if I knew who (journalist/magazine etc) originally came up with the phrases 'Britpop' and 'Trip-Hop'. I'm tempted to say someone on Q or Select for the former, but I'm stumped for the latter. Any suggestions?
And while we're on it, I've seen Word's splendid 'Landfill Indie' in a bunch of places since they came up with it. Any other mags or journalists that could lay legitimate claim to naming a movement? (did Neil Kay come up with New Wave of British Heavy Metal?)
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I'm sure
that someone is Word-land coined the term "Britpop" and has mentioned it in the mag before. I think it's one of the Andrews, potentially Mr. Collins.
I thought
I remembered reading that it was Andrew Harrison.
Wikipedia claims Britpop was Maconie
at least in the 90's usage:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Maconie
and it was discussed here:
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/vladrock
Sorry
This is why I made that association:
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/users/andrew-harrison
I think NWOBHM was someone at Snouds
Geoff Barton maybe?
Sounds, for sure
Geoff Barton would have been my guess .
Showing my age
I know it came up somewhere recently, but wasn't it Mark Ellen who came up with the Fab macca Wacky Thumbs Aloft sobriquet? While we're on the subject, pound for pound, Word does seem to coin more than the average mag.
John Harris
came up with Britpop apparently, although I think Collins and Quantick also claim they did
Britpop
Older than you think, and in a different context. The OED dates it to 1977 in the NME 'At home The Sex Pistols are public enemies. In Sweden, they're an important visiting Britpop group.'
(The OED credits the earliest mention of Trip hop to Mixmag in 1994: 'This is trip hop, a deft fusion of head-nodding beats, supa-phat bass and an obsessive attention to the kind of other-wordly sounds usually found on acid house records')
but the OED's context for
Britpop is wrong no one would classify the Pistols in 1977 as stylistically/philosophically (in respect to later bands I use this word advisedly) etc the sames the Bluetones, Billy Ocean Colour Scene or Oasis. Oh and I thought it was Stuart Maconi who claimed this one.
From a Stuart Maconie interview...
'I’m sure someone must have used the expression before me about the Hollies, or the Beatles, back in the ‘60s. But I was the first person to use it about bands like Oasis and Blur, and I wish I got royalties from it.'
Found here:http://www.wlct.org/Culture/linconline/stuart_maconie.htm
I wish i could do those fancy block quote thingies, damn it...
To do block quote
type blockquote between a < and a > at the start of the quote.
Now go to the end of the quote and do the same again, but put a / after the <
Hope that helps (and works!)
Cheers Reno
.
To go further back...
Jerry Wexler, later a very influential record producer, invented the term Rhythm and Blues while working as a journalist on Billboard.
Before that time Billboard's black music chart had been called, first, Harlem Hit Parade, and then Race Records. Wexler's suggestion of Rhythm and Blues was adopted in 1949.
Trip Hop
I heard it was first coined around the music of a band called Marden hill. I know them so will try to find out who first said it.........
Is that Marden Hill
as in Matt Lipsey?
The very same
We used to be in a band together in the eighties.
He's been directing
Psychoville I noticed, good on him. I, er, used to go out with his sister an awfully long time ago now...and of course I knew you Passion Puppeteers back in the day, supporting a mooning Paul Young at Hammersmith and dossing down on our floor afterwards. Those were some days...
Greetings Paul
I'll drop you a message.....
Didn't Stuart Maconie
come up with "Lionpop" or something like that before "Britpop" was coined?
Also - is HJH a Word thing, or does that have another root?
Daily Express
Its non-ironic use there was first commented on here almost simultaneously by Andy Lynes and Captain Underpants. It took off immediately. I don't know if it's appeared in the mag yet, though.
Lion Pop
was a term I seem to remember being bandied around Cud.
Thank you...
...one and all. Was slightly embarrassed to ask the original question as I feel like I should know all these things (by osmosis if nothing else), so many thanks for all the illuminating responses. Cheers.
Landfill Indie?
One of the defining terms of the late Noughties. Who coined that one?
Landfill Indie
Andrew Harrison of this parish, wasn't it?