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Who came up with the phrase...

JustinQuirk's picture

For reasons to long to explain, a friend called me this morning to see if I knew who (journalist/magazine etc) originally came up with the phrases 'Britpop' and 'Trip-Hop'. I'm tempted to say someone on Q or Select for the former, but I'm stumped for the latter. Any suggestions?

And while we're on it, I've seen Word's splendid 'Landfill Indie' in a bunch of places since they came up with it. Any other mags or journalists that could lay legitimate claim to naming a movement? (did Neil Kay come up with New Wave of British Heavy Metal?)

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I'm sure

that someone is Word-land coined the term "Britpop" and has mentioned it in the mag before. I think it's one of the Andrews, potentially Mr. Collins.

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Joe R | 12 November 2009 - 3:18pm

I thought

I remembered reading that it was Andrew Harrison.

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Lucas Hare | 12 November 2009 - 3:32pm
Gav Leonard | 12 November 2009 - 3:40pm

Sorry

This is why I made that association:

http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/users/andrew-harrison

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Lucas Hare | 12 November 2009 - 4:28pm

I think NWOBHM was someone at Snouds

Geoff Barton maybe?

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stimpy | 12 November 2009 - 3:20pm

Sounds, for sure

Geoff Barton would have been my guess .

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el hombre malo | 12 November 2009 - 4:44pm

Showing my age

I know it came up somewhere recently, but wasn't it Mark Ellen who came up with the Fab macca Wacky Thumbs Aloft sobriquet? While we're on the subject, pound for pound, Word does seem to coin more than the average mag.

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Vorgongod | 12 November 2009 - 3:25pm

John Harris

came up with Britpop apparently, although I think Collins and Quantick also claim they did

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Chimney Singing... | 12 November 2009 - 3:28pm

Britpop

Older than you think, and in a different context. The OED dates it to 1977 in the NME 'At home The Sex Pistols are public enemies. In Sweden, they're an important visiting Britpop group.'

(The OED credits the earliest mention of Trip hop to Mixmag in 1994: 'This is trip hop, a deft fusion of head-nodding beats, supa-phat bass and an obsessive attention to the kind of other-wordly sounds usually found on acid house records')

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Gatz | 12 November 2009 - 3:28pm

but the OED's context for

Britpop is wrong no one would classify the Pistols in 1977 as stylistically/philosophically (in respect to later bands I use this word advisedly) etc the sames the Bluetones, Billy Ocean Colour Scene or Oasis. Oh and I thought it was Stuart Maconi who claimed this one.

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Chris G | 12 November 2009 - 3:43pm

From a Stuart Maconie interview...

'I’m sure someone must have used the expression before me about the Hollies, or the Beatles, back in the ‘60s. But I was the first person to use it about bands like Oasis and Blur, and I wish I got royalties from it.'

Found here:http://www.wlct.org/Culture/linconline/stuart_maconie.htm

I wish i could do those fancy block quote thingies, damn it...

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Gav Leonard | 12 November 2009 - 3:46pm

To do block quote

type blockquote between a < and a > at the start of the quote.

Now go to the end of the quote and do the same again, but put a / after the <

Hope that helps (and works!)

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Reno Dakota | 13 November 2009 - 11:53am

Cheers Reno

.

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Gav Leonard | 13 November 2009 - 5:18pm

To go further back...

Jerry Wexler, later a very influential record producer, invented the term Rhythm and Blues while working as a journalist on Billboard.

Before that time Billboard's black music chart had been called, first, Harlem Hit Parade, and then Race Records. Wexler's suggestion of Rhythm and Blues was adopted in 1949.

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Inky Fingers | 12 November 2009 - 3:29pm

Trip Hop

I heard it was first coined around the music of a band called Marden hill. I know them so will try to find out who first said it.........

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Lunaman | 12 November 2009 - 4:23pm

Is that Marden Hill

as in Matt Lipsey?

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Paul Bernays | 12 November 2009 - 5:28pm

The very same

We used to be in a band together in the eighties.

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Lunaman | 12 November 2009 - 5:48pm

He's been directing

Psychoville I noticed, good on him. I, er, used to go out with his sister an awfully long time ago now...and of course I knew you Passion Puppeteers back in the day, supporting a mooning Paul Young at Hammersmith and dossing down on our floor afterwards. Those were some days...

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Paul Bernays | 12 November 2009 - 7:54pm

Greetings Paul

I'll drop you a message.....

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Lunaman | 12 November 2009 - 8:06pm

Didn't Stuart Maconie

come up with "Lionpop" or something like that before "Britpop" was coined?

Also - is HJH a Word thing, or does that have another root?

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milkybarnick | 12 November 2009 - 5:48pm

Daily Express

Its non-ironic use there was first commented on here almost simultaneously by Andy Lynes and Captain Underpants. It took off immediately. I don't know if it's appeared in the mag yet, though.

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Archie Valparaiso | 12 November 2009 - 6:35pm

Lion Pop

was a term I seem to remember being bandied around Cud.

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SimonL | 12 November 2009 - 7:39pm

Thank you...

...one and all. Was slightly embarrassed to ask the original question as I feel like I should know all these things (by osmosis if nothing else), so many thanks for all the illuminating responses. Cheers.

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JustinQuirk | 13 November 2009 - 12:30am

Landfill Indie?

One of the defining terms of the late Noughties. Who coined that one?

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Prestonia | 13 November 2009 - 5:25pm

Landfill Indie

Andrew Harrison of this parish, wasn't it?

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JustinQuirk | 15 November 2009 - 10:54pm
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