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Posted by David Hepworth on 30 December 2008 - 2:36pm.
As promised, the latest Backstage podcast features Richard Thompson. He's taking his "1,000 Years Of Popular Music" tour around England in January and February. He begins in Baskingstoke on January 14th and finishes in Oxford on February 7th. Full details of the tour, in which he is accompanied by Debra Dobkin and Judith Owen, can be found here.
I spoke to him at his Hampstead home just before Christmas. Subjects covered off include: Gilbert and Sullivan, jazz players on Connie Francis records, whether Shakespeare was Shakespeare, the travails of Britney Spears and why nothing will ever again sound the way it once sounded at the fairground.
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Peculiar
I'd never heard Mr T speak before. Does he always sound this nervous? And it sounds like Mr H is alternating between bored and angry, and shouting from inside a metal box.
Would make an interesting transcript (with a sub removing the y'knows and sort ofs) but a weird thing to listen to.
Or is it just me? Sorry.
Always
As he says, he's a shy guy by nature. He stammered as a youth and his overbearing policeman father didn't help.
He's the least likely rock and roll star you'll ever see - quiet, modest, Muslim, tee-total, looks like a geography teacher, etc, but I like to think that this just makes him all the move amazing when he plays.
Here's part 1 of the Solitary Life documentary, with lots of RT looking very uncomfortable under scrutiny:
Nervous?
Actually, yes, he does. As a younger man he was plagued by a stammer which is always threatening to break loose. I think it, oddly, part of the appeal. Gods with feet of clay and all that.
Agreed...
his shyness is part of his appeal. The transition between RT offstage and onstage is remarkable. Personally I love his sense of humour... dry as a bone and very engaging.
Enjoyed that...
Forgive me if I am wrong......
....but is/was the teetotalitarianism part of a realisation of maybe he was caning it a bit back before the Prophet conveniently embargoed such temptation? I neither know and feel it prurient to ask, but a lot of his lyrics celebrate the glory what is drinking, much in the way of many erstwhile imbibers relive their memories of wine and roses. Nothing to be ashamed of, either way, of course.
Glory that is drinking?
While I'm sure he enjoyed many of the traditional aspects of 60s musiciandom I don't think I've heard any stories relating to excessive booze and/or drugs on his part.
I've always thought his drinking songs were more on the dark side. From the early days (Genesis Hall's 'One man he drinks of his whisky/ Another man drinks of his wine/ And they'll drink till their eyes are red with hate/ For those of a different kind) to the 70s and 80s (Down where the Drunkards Roll and God Loves a Drunk) they're fairly down on drunks. There is Drinkin' Wine Spodey-Odey (sp?) on the 1000 Years album, but that of course is a cover.
A darkness that is missed.....
...is often how alcoholics describe it, or psychiatrists discussing alcoholics describe it. Having an interest professionally in this area always mkes me alert to possible declarations of experience. As I said, I have no idea about Mr T.
(Another example might be Sinead O'Connor, whose lyrics, way ahead of her bipolar diagnosis, betray a working knowledge of addiction and it language in treatment, whether hers or those close to her.)
I'm pretty sure that
in the bio that came out a few years ago, he admits to having being overly fond of the sauce whilst in Fairport, and experimenting with most drugs.
I think that was during the period in which...
he used to dress up as a medieval archer. Time to bring that look back, RT!
NOT A RT FAN BUT
This was very good indeed. RT is a very interesting man. I could have listened all day. Excellent interview David.
It seems about 20 years ago
It seems about 20 years ago since I heard RT on the radio doing a (very surprisingly long and) fabulous version of his song Hand of Kindness. Perhaps it was a BBC session. Does it, or any similar version, exist as a generally available recording? If only I could find a devil, I'd gladly sell my soul to hear it again.
Part of growing up and being British
Not had a chance to listen as still idling on a New Year break but looking forward to the invariably engaging RT. I directed the aforementioned and above embedded Solitary Life BBC film so feel slightly qualified on the subject. Yes he's a little shy at times but not uncomfortable though it'd be true to say he comes across best on his own terms - i.e. in concert.
RT's had a lot read into his work by theorising fans and journalists - not
wholly unlike Dylan. I remember Fairport cohort Simon Nicol
observing that RT's songwriting became less open to interpretation
from the 80s onwards.
Like a lot of artists perhaps, RT partly structures his life in a way that
leaves both his creative flow open and him able to get it out. That's
pretty intense work already and the rest of the time you get the feeling
he'd rather not examine or be doing with it too much. He seems to live a
very normal and full life, is very friendly and interesting, displaying a
remarkable absence of showbiz ego while being extraordinarily talented and
knowledgeable as a musician and writer. That's unique enough and doubtless
goes some way to explaining why he's so popular (deservedly IMHO) with
much of the massive.
Good work!
Good work, Paul. I enjoyed that documentary very much.
Thanks
It's really down to Richard being a great subject though. I've some self crit but I'll spare you that. Listened to the podcast now and enjoyed it a lot, so thanks due to David for intelligent conversation. And re Hampstead below - it's not Hampstead proper nor anything like you'd associate with that postcode. Nuff said.
Who influenced his playing?
After watching the Solitary Life documentary I sent this RT solo
to my son, himself a considerable guitarist, and he replied,
"F'ing brilliant. I'm not really affected by much of his stuff but sometimes... well, where the f**k does he get this stuff from? You never read or hear much about his rocking out or who influenced that part of his playing which starts to make me think that it just came from him!"
(Sorry about the cissy-prissy spelling, but I'm new here and not sure of your opinions on sweary words).
I don't know the precise answer to this...
...I suspect there are many and varied influences, but his electric solos for me seem to be bastard children of Scottish music and rockabilly. That's a Good Thing by the way. We have drones, timings and big intervals from the former, double and triple stops and unison bends from the latter.
He took a lot from listening to his father's record collection..
which included plenty of Scottish music, particularly music for the bagpipes. The drones and intervals to be found in RT's playing, rare in rock music, are adaptations of those found in the traditional music he heard as a young lad. There is also the influence of arabic music, which to my ears uses similar musical intervals. In this case RT was not the first to adapt arabic music for the guitar, as Davy Graham had done so in the early 1960s.
By no means as odd as you suggest.
Gaelic as a language bears more reference to the east than to Europe, so who is to say that there is not a connection?
Singer's Hampstead home
sorry, it did make me laugh though
and me..
hope David H went by tube to the gaff; only losers take the bus.
nah
I rekon he took the Helicopter of the Holy Ghost
The very last word of the interview...
...summed it all up - a quick 'Yep' - just the way he said it showed utter relief that it's over! (listen to the last 20 seconds again - worth the effort).
Couple of other points - I think the former Mrs Thompson would differ in his claim that he's not one for the attention. I say that because I think I recall her saying that you only had to open the fridge door and he would do a turn.
But - he does seem to be fundamentally shy, which is a good thing in my book, and this interview was fascinating - not so much for what he said (which was fine) but for the almost audible battle he seems to have within himself when talking about his career. Glimpses of an uncompromising character who may be easier to listen to than to live with!
Well done one and all.
Good to see some Cathal
Good to see some Cathal Coughlan fans on the Word. An even more underappreciated artist than Mr Thompson..