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Which of these men is trying to appear "cool"?

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David "Dave" Cameron tells us (unconvincingly) how much he likes Florence & The Machine in blokey rag Shortlist

Meanwhile The Sun has asked various religious leaders what they listen to. Turns out Rowan Williams, Archbishop of Canterbury likes a bit of The Incredible String Band. Which of these men is trying to appear "cool"?

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Both, of course

Both wrong too

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MarkHagen | 18 February 2010 - 2:39pm

Cameron and music

I don't know about "trying to be cool" but I believe Cameron's enthusiasm for music is genuine - either that or he's a bloody good actor. I heard him on Desert Island discs, and the way he talked about his choices suggested that he's a man with a definite engagement with music. I particularly remember him saying he and his wife often differ about music, "but the one thing we agree on is early REM."

But then again what do I know? I'm the sort of person who thinks anyone who cycles to work can't be all bad.

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Theo Zoffrok | 18 February 2010 - 2:56pm

"either that or he's a bloody good actor"

That's the Oxford English Dictionary definition of "political leader" I believe.

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Molesworth | 18 February 2010 - 3:10pm

Cycles to work

Yes, with his car following him

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el hombre malo | 18 February 2010 - 4:35pm

Erm

Yes, I know that. It's not the point though.

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Theo Zoffrok | 18 February 2010 - 4:59pm

It is for me

(I'm not saying everyone has to agree with me)

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el hombre malo | 18 February 2010 - 6:08pm
ganglesprocket | 18 February 2010 - 3:05pm

Hedgehog Song


And he has a beard.

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Seamus | 19 February 2010 - 1:04am

he's hardly

saying how much he likes FATM, hes just saying he bought it. Probably hasn't even listened to it yet.
People like Brown and Cameron probably don't listen to much music, mainly because they don't get much time to do so. Then when they're asked about music they feel they have to say something.

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Simon Ford | 18 February 2010 - 3:15pm

He obviously hasn't listened to the FatM album...

...because, had he done so, he'd have said how unspeakably awful it is. Imagine: 'Hmmm, yairse, the last CD I bought was by Florence and the Machine. Fuck me, Jeremy, it stinks!"

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pocket.calculator | 18 February 2010 - 3:36pm

Apparrently..

she can't sing either.
Anyone know why this band in particular has become the fashionable one to slag off on this blog?
Did I miss a meeting?

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Doug B | 18 February 2010 - 4:12pm

Rowan Williams must be a Word Blogger...

I mean what with the beard and the mention of the Incredible String Band.

He must be on here under an alias...wonder who he is and if he'll turn up at our next pub get-together?

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Retro Man | 18 February 2010 - 3:20pm

I reckon he's....

Retropath 2.

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Patrick Crowther | 18 February 2010 - 3:51pm

Haha...

come to think of it, I do miss Retropath2.

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Retro Man | 18 February 2010 - 4:32pm

I had them down as

HudD & Middlerabbit

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Dave Amitri | 19 February 2010 - 12:35am

If they said that to me.....

....my devious mind would immediately leap to the conclusion that David Cameron liked Florence and the Machine and the Archbishop Of Canterbury liked the Incredible String Band. Maybe I've been doing this too long.

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David Hepworth | 18 February 2010 - 4:52pm

Whereas my naive mind would think...

"Oh, I don't really give a flying bollock either way", and move onto something else. I'll just go and check the Recently Updated list before retrieving my coat...

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illuminatus | 18 February 2010 - 5:14pm

no

I think you would just be right Dave!

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Bingham | 18 February 2010 - 7:39pm

As usual,

David Hepworth has the answer

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Sheev | 19 February 2010 - 12:40am

In a previous life

I worked for a popular hard rock band and I was delighted/amused when the Prime Minister himself admitted to being a fan:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/3270217.stm

Not sure how *they* felt about it, mind you. It's not exactly the cool seal of approval.

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hungoverdrawn | 18 February 2010 - 5:01pm

Didn't Cameron

Make up a story about 'hangin' out backstage with radiohead a few years ago?

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MrSib | 18 February 2010 - 5:24pm

if they were going to make up something

It might be a bit more impressive than that. No-one would make up liking the Incredible String Band, since virtually no-one has heard of them outside of message boards such as this one. If you were trying to impress people then Florence wouldn't be first choice (much as I love her).

I reckon they probably just like the artists they say they like.

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Mavis Diles | 18 February 2010 - 5:37pm

Who knows?

David Cameron and Rowan Williams might actually like listening to music. And today that happens to be FATM and TISB.

Today, I like Percy Faith.

Just a thought.

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Five-Centres | 18 February 2010 - 5:42pm

"Toffs" who went to Eton

"Toffs" who went to Eton don't listen to pop music like everyone else. Even the ones who have grown up in the rock'n'roll era only listen to string quartets. If someone asks them about it they get their servants to tell them what to pretend to like. True fact. Read it in the New Statesman.

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Richard Lowe | 18 February 2010 - 5:44pm

I met Cameron in 1990

and at the time, he was a pretty big Smiths fan. It must pain the more bug-eyed among us, but it is possible to be a politician, even a Tory and to genuinely enjoy music.

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Occam | 18 February 2010 - 5:51pm

I think the whole "i really like pop music" pose is tiresome

I'd vote for anyone who said "I'm too busy trying to make sure your children aren't unemployed throughout their lives to waste a second on the Arctic Monkeys or Florence and the bloody Machine or anyone."

But FWIW, I once stood next to Tony Blair when he developed a very convincing little riff about Leslie West and Mountain that he'd rehearsed in the car on the way to the event. (Barristers are all quick studies).

And FWIW2 David Cameron was in the Word tent at Cornbury a few years ago digging Echo & The Bunnymen and he wasn't doing that to get votes.

And anyone who votes for anyone because of the pop music they say they likes deserves to wake up to Ahmadinejad building a gallows in Whitehall.

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David Hepworth | 18 February 2010 - 5:58pm

You should try and book the Arctic Monkeys next time...

... maybe Gordon Brown will show up?

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ganglesprocket | 18 February 2010 - 6:42pm

I’m not sure whether to read...

...David Cameron’s endorsement of Florence & the Machine as a desperate cry for help; a carefully orchestrated PR re-branding of the Tory leader as a flawed human being, capable of making really bad judgements; or a noble attempt by the man at inflicting credibility-sapping, career-ending damage on Florence Welch (see Margaret Thatcher’s TV endorsement of Thrashing Doves on Saturday Superstore).

Archbishop Rowan Williams is clearly at the vanguard of a belated Anglican initiative to ensnare the youth of the 1960s. His fondness for the music of The Incredible String Band should be regarded in this light.

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backwards7 | 18 February 2010 - 6:45pm

Don't you miss the days of Edward Heath

For this alone - he was a keen classical musician and conductor, and didn't bother to pretend to be anything else. He still won elections. Also a lifelong bachelor, and it's hard to see any politician being allowed to get away with that these days without explanations being demanded.

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Melville | 18 February 2010 - 6:59pm

Shortlist

Next week, Cameron will be giving an exclusive interview about Florence & The Machine songs he can actually name to the magazine EvenShorterList.

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Andrew_Collins | 18 February 2010 - 7:29pm

She's a good songwriter though.

Have you heard Candi Staton's version of You Got The Love - possibly even better than Flo's? Good sign when you can get old disco divas covering your songs. If Florence can write ten more songs as good as YGTL she'll go a long long way.

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Mr Fade | 18 February 2010 - 10:48pm

Leave the archbish alone

I'm sure I've heard of him praising the Strings before. In fact I think he wrote a piece about them for a book or something? I think his favourite song is First Girl I Loved. A very good choice. I believe he's genuine.

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Stephen Merrick | 19 February 2010 - 12:52am
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