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Which of these men is trying to appear "cool"?
Posted by simonperrins on 18 February 2010 - 2:35pm.
David "Dave" Cameron tells us (unconvincingly) how much he likes Florence & The Machine in blokey rag Shortlist
Meanwhile The Sun has asked various religious leaders what they listen to. Turns out Rowan Williams, Archbishop of Canterbury likes a bit of The Incredible String Band. Which of these men is trying to appear "cool"?
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Both, of course
Both wrong too
Cameron and music
I don't know about "trying to be cool" but I believe Cameron's enthusiasm for music is genuine - either that or he's a bloody good actor. I heard him on Desert Island discs, and the way he talked about his choices suggested that he's a man with a definite engagement with music. I particularly remember him saying he and his wife often differ about music, "but the one thing we agree on is early REM."
But then again what do I know? I'm the sort of person who thinks anyone who cycles to work can't be all bad.
"either that or he's a bloody good actor"
That's the Oxford English Dictionary definition of "political leader" I believe.
Cycles to work
Yes, with his car following him
Erm
Yes, I know that. It's not the point though.
It is for me
(I'm not saying everyone has to agree with me)
Anyone who likes The Incredible String Band is cool
End of story
Hedgehog Song
And he has a beard.
he's hardly
saying how much he likes FATM, hes just saying he bought it. Probably hasn't even listened to it yet.
People like Brown and Cameron probably don't listen to much music, mainly because they don't get much time to do so. Then when they're asked about music they feel they have to say something.
He obviously hasn't listened to the FatM album...
...because, had he done so, he'd have said how unspeakably awful it is. Imagine: 'Hmmm, yairse, the last CD I bought was by Florence and the Machine. Fuck me, Jeremy, it stinks!"
Apparrently..
she can't sing either.
Anyone know why this band in particular has become the fashionable one to slag off on this blog?
Did I miss a meeting?
Rowan Williams must be a Word Blogger...
I mean what with the beard and the mention of the Incredible String Band.
He must be on here under an alias...wonder who he is and if he'll turn up at our next pub get-together?
I reckon he's....
Retropath 2.
Haha...
come to think of it, I do miss Retropath2.
I had them down as
HudD & Middlerabbit
If they said that to me.....
....my devious mind would immediately leap to the conclusion that David Cameron liked Florence and the Machine and the Archbishop Of Canterbury liked the Incredible String Band. Maybe I've been doing this too long.
Whereas my naive mind would think...
"Oh, I don't really give a flying bollock either way", and move onto something else. I'll just go and check the Recently Updated list before retrieving my coat...
no
I think you would just be right Dave!
As usual,
David Hepworth has the answer
In a previous life
I worked for a popular hard rock band and I was delighted/amused when the Prime Minister himself admitted to being a fan:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/3270217.stm
Not sure how *they* felt about it, mind you. It's not exactly the cool seal of approval.
Didn't Cameron
Make up a story about 'hangin' out backstage with radiohead a few years ago?
if they were going to make up something
It might be a bit more impressive than that. No-one would make up liking the Incredible String Band, since virtually no-one has heard of them outside of message boards such as this one. If you were trying to impress people then Florence wouldn't be first choice (much as I love her).
I reckon they probably just like the artists they say they like.
Who knows?
David Cameron and Rowan Williams might actually like listening to music. And today that happens to be FATM and TISB.
Today, I like Percy Faith.
Just a thought.
"Toffs" who went to Eton
"Toffs" who went to Eton don't listen to pop music like everyone else. Even the ones who have grown up in the rock'n'roll era only listen to string quartets. If someone asks them about it they get their servants to tell them what to pretend to like. True fact. Read it in the New Statesman.
I met Cameron in 1990
and at the time, he was a pretty big Smiths fan. It must pain the more bug-eyed among us, but it is possible to be a politician, even a Tory and to genuinely enjoy music.
I think the whole "i really like pop music" pose is tiresome
I'd vote for anyone who said "I'm too busy trying to make sure your children aren't unemployed throughout their lives to waste a second on the Arctic Monkeys or Florence and the bloody Machine or anyone."
But FWIW, I once stood next to Tony Blair when he developed a very convincing little riff about Leslie West and Mountain that he'd rehearsed in the car on the way to the event. (Barristers are all quick studies).
And FWIW2 David Cameron was in the Word tent at Cornbury a few years ago digging Echo & The Bunnymen and he wasn't doing that to get votes.
And anyone who votes for anyone because of the pop music they say they likes deserves to wake up to Ahmadinejad building a gallows in Whitehall.
You should try and book the Arctic Monkeys next time...
... maybe Gordon Brown will show up?
I’m not sure whether to read...
...David Cameron’s endorsement of Florence & the Machine as a desperate cry for help; a carefully orchestrated PR re-branding of the Tory leader as a flawed human being, capable of making really bad judgements; or a noble attempt by the man at inflicting credibility-sapping, career-ending damage on Florence Welch (see Margaret Thatcher’s TV endorsement of Thrashing Doves on Saturday Superstore).
Archbishop Rowan Williams is clearly at the vanguard of a belated Anglican initiative to ensnare the youth of the 1960s. His fondness for the music of The Incredible String Band should be regarded in this light.
Don't you miss the days of Edward Heath
For this alone - he was a keen classical musician and conductor, and didn't bother to pretend to be anything else. He still won elections. Also a lifelong bachelor, and it's hard to see any politician being allowed to get away with that these days without explanations being demanded.
Shortlist
Next week, Cameron will be giving an exclusive interview about Florence & The Machine songs he can actually name to the magazine EvenShorterList.
She's a good songwriter though.
Have you heard Candi Staton's version of You Got The Love - possibly even better than Flo's? Good sign when you can get old disco divas covering your songs. If Florence can write ten more songs as good as YGTL she'll go a long long way.
Leave the archbish alone
I'm sure I've heard of him praising the Strings before. In fact I think he wrote a piece about them for a book or something? I think his favourite song is First Girl I Loved. A very good choice. I believe he's genuine.