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Which popular sports do you not understand/appreciate?

Uncle Wheaty's picture

I love cricket and many other sports but there are some that I just fail to appreciate on any level.

The two I always fail to see any value in are Speedway and Basketball.

There must be more The Collective don't "get" I guess?

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Horse racing...

lots of wee folk in garish outfits on nags? No thanks.

I do like this, however...


My money would have been on Alf Ramsey's Porn Dungeon.

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Patrick Crowther | 18 June 2009 - 7:29pm

I have absolutely no interest in horse racing

whatsoever but do enjoy the occasional day at the races. The sights, sounds, atmosphere, buzz - it's a great day out. And if you go with the attitude that you're going to drop £5 or £10 or £whatever per race, any win is a bonus.

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Mark JF | 18 June 2009 - 8:48pm

Jockeys freak me out

They're always too small for their skin. Scary as hell. Some people get weirded out by clowns; for me it's jockeys.

So, obviously, horse racing's not really my thing.

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Captain Underpants | 18 June 2009 - 10:29pm

Speedway

Does Speedway still exist?
It used to be a regular feature on Sportsnight with Coleman in the early 70's. It was popular enough to make Ivan Mauger either winner or runner up in BBC Sports Personality of the Year around then. I haven't seen it for decades.
I always found a strange fascination in watching motorbikes going sideways, for the most part, round a cinder track. I don't miss it though.
The worst sports event ever to be televised (I know it's not quite what you're asking for) has to be Dressage where horses are manouevered very slowly back and forth, while dressed with ribbons in their mane and tail. It makes synchronised swimming look riveting.

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Carl Parker | 18 June 2009 - 7:30pm

Speedway

Is currently undergoing something of a revival on Sky - they've Murdoched the sport, so there's now a "Premier League", cheerleaders, cameras inside the riders' jockstraps, etc. But it's still set in the traditional Speedway heartlands, so a typical glamour tie will involve Poole taking on the might of Kings Lynn.

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Fraser Lewry | 18 June 2009 - 8:24pm

Speedway

is fairly big where I grew up. When I was a kid, my local team won the domestic treble (equivalent of Premier League, League Cup and FA Cup) one season and because both my friend's Dad and brother rode for the team, I used to go often and spend time in the pits.

But you know what? It was still utterly, utterly rubbish.

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Joe R | 19 June 2009 - 9:19am

Massive in Poland

true..........

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Six Dog | 19 June 2009 - 3:13pm

Rugby, Fishing...

...and motor ( ahem ) *sport* of any kind.

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eddie g | 18 June 2009 - 7:35pm

All of them

a complete and utter waste of time.

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Riccardo Gargiulo | 18 June 2009 - 7:36pm

You beat me

to it.

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Adman | 18 June 2009 - 11:29pm

And me!

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kidpresentable | 20 June 2009 - 2:54pm

Speedway

Agreed. Whichever bike gets to the first rin the lead wins. It's as boring as that.

Rugby League - poor relation to Union.

But the winner by miles (although it's more of an event than a sport) is the Boat Race. No-one I know (with the exception of a couple of ex-public school boys at work, which says it all really) could care less about it, and yet TV companies actually pay good money to televise it.

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Johan | 18 June 2009 - 8:22pm

Watching or playing?

I'll watch football match after football match. I like watching and playing golf. I like playing tennis but watching it bores me rigid. I quite like watching the occasional baseball game (not quite as much as is on in our house though - my wife watches it). Just about everything else I could happily never see again. Top of my "why do people want to watch this?" list are cricket, athletics, swimming and anything that involves a boat... did I forget to mention snooker?

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JohnW | 18 June 2009 - 8:26pm

Most of them

I'll watch Rugby (Union of course) but that's about all. I used to be fairly heavily involved in rallying back in the 80s but have no interest in watching it these days.

(Not too sure I approve of this new 'Collective' thing - all sounds worryingly socialist/anarchist to me. I'll stick with the 'Massive' thanks.)

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stimpy | 18 June 2009 - 8:42pm

Rugby

I would be interested to know why you put (Union of Course) in brackets after Rugby and also why Johan thinks Rugby League is the poor relation of Rugby Union.I prefer Rugby League as i find it a cleaner game and can tell what's going on,whereas with Rugby Union they kick the ball a lot,i can't tell whats going on and the only person who seems to know the rules is the referee.

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heathwilliams | 18 June 2009 - 8:59pm

It's

the six tackles thing. They just run into someone six times in a row before they ever actually try a bit of adventurous passing. And I like the set pieces in Union, scrums and line-outs.

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Johan | 18 June 2009 - 9:44pm

Why union?

I live in Wales :-)

Personally, I feel Union is a purer form of the game. It seems to me that League has been 'dumbed down' to make it faster, easier to understand and more appealing to the viewing audience.

Finally, I went to a Union playing boarding school in the south of England - that gives me a natural bias toward the Union code for all the predictable socio-economic reasons.

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stimpy | 19 June 2009 - 9:31am

League

all the way I'm afraid . Are the pockets in the shorts still the norm to keep their hands warm?

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gaz | 23 June 2009 - 5:30pm

Collective vs Massive

I'd choose Tony Benn over Tim Westwood every time!

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torrential1 | 18 June 2009 - 8:54pm

What about...

syndicate?

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Patrick Crowther | 18 June 2009 - 9:04pm

I like We Few, We Happy Few

or Whiffs for ease of use

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Sheev | 18 June 2009 - 9:29pm

What about

The Selective instead of the collective?

Please no 2 tone linked responses!

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Uncle Wheaty | 18 June 2009 - 9:35pm

Hmmm

Football - good to play and watch but can't abide the hype. Have just got bored watching Italy Vs Egypt.

Cricket - Good excuse for a beer. Opportunities to listen to old boys decrying the flash antics of the on-field wannabes have provided many hours of amusement.

Rugby - Both codes have their merits. Love the 6 Nations whoever is playing and will get to Wembley sometime for the Challenge Cup Final.

Badminton - One of the most underrated sports of all time. Trouble is it's rubbish to watch. Playing ... now that's another matter.

But sodding F1 - believe me I've tried. Friends, relatives, colleagues have all extolled its virtues. For the last Grand Prix I pinned my shorts to the sofa with me in them and watched 53 laps of ... nothing. Nothing happened! But surely the sound, the noise, the technology. If I hear a vintage turboprop or fast jet fly over the house I'm outside in a flash and having witnessed seven Harrier's performing a sychronised bow where the ground is vibrating with the intensity of sound, frankly a bunch of pithy engined asthmatic mosquitoes processing around some tarmac sort of pales into insignificance.

By comparison the coverage I saw of the Moto GP last week had more happen in 5 minutes than the whole 4 wheeled version.

Now for real excitement try live Ice Hockey. Infinitely better than anything the TV can rustle up. For a start you can see the puck which is always an advantage.

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Phil Pirrip | 18 June 2009 - 10:14pm

I'm like a dog

If it involves chasing a ball about I'm in - if it involves skates or horses, I'm off.

Hang on a minute - monkey tennis flash.

Celebrity Horse Racing on Ice fronted by Vernon Kay.

You'd watch that wouldn't you?

Thought so

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Sheev | 18 June 2009 - 10:01pm

It's been proven by science...

...that unless you are born within the sound of a pitch (is that even the right word? or is it a green?) you will never begin to understand, much less enjoy, cricket.

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Ian McGillis | 18 June 2009 - 10:53pm

new

Not true. We grew up in a republican area of Northern Ireland and we played cricket every summer. The chucks didnt like it but we loved it. Saying that i dont understand the nauances of the game but as a child it was a game we played everyday from June till the footie started in September. Great game.
Rubbish sport has to be tennis,closely followed by F1

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paintyface | 19 June 2009 - 12:42am

Rubbish and brilliant sports

For feck's sake lads (probably no lasses - although happy to be wrong): golf. Utterly pointless.
I agree with Paintyface, I share his shared background in Nationalist NI and we loved the slap of degenerating tennis ball on inexpensive Lifestyle Sports (or occasionally homemade) willow from June-September.
Along with glorious summers of gaelic football, the greatest sport on God's GE. The perfect mix of subtle ball play, shrewd tactical acumen and unadulterated violence in back of beyond town lands.

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PaddyH | 19 June 2009 - 1:25am

new

Nice one Paddy but although i love my Gaelic, hurling is the best game i have ever witnessed. Im baised here as my wife is fgrom Kilkenny and it is a religion down there.
Ps who is your county,mine is armagh and we havn't a mission this year. Like to see Cork win it this year.

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paintyface | 19 June 2009 - 3:11pm

I live in Australia..

..sport..and the people who play it can go and get fucked.

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shane pacey | 19 June 2009 - 1:56am

Basketball: What's not to understand?

The athleticism of Jordan must make him one of the (apologies list-aphobics) top handful of sports people of all time. It does cross all boundaries.

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PaddyH | 19 June 2009 - 2:04am

Bounce, bounce, bounce....basket!

Bounce, bounce, bounce....basket!

Bounce, pass, bounce.....basket!

Bounce, bounce, pass....miss!

Repeat ad nauseam for however long it takes.

Final score - 110-108 or somesuch.

Where's the tension?

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Paul Waring | 19 June 2009 - 10:05am

110-108

There's the tension. Most games aren't that close.

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Fraser Lewry | 19 June 2009 - 10:14am

Basketball is all wrong..

..it´s unfair on short people ( who´ve got nobody to love ) and is reserved for tall freaks of nature. It should be banned for being discriminatory, or maybe they could lower the baskets for us short-arses, or have height divisions, just like weight divisions in boxing. That´s it!

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On The Fence | 19 June 2009 - 10:31am

Exactly

Basketball is repetitive dross.

The replies below try to give it credence but if this is all it has to offer just have a penalty shoot out and save your time.

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Uncle Wheaty | 19 June 2009 - 8:53pm

It's a game for freaks.....

When was the last time a Larry Byrd broke through?

You have to be 6ft 10 to even stand a chance. US colleges have medieval racks to stretch out talented youngsters.

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Six Dog | 19 June 2009 - 3:20pm

Have you seen this?

It's called Slamball.
I just keep expecting to see Ben Stiller.

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Blue Sky | 19 June 2009 - 4:51am

Slagging off Bono

has become a bit of a sport...

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Mark JF | 19 June 2009 - 7:44am

Daft rules

I don't like any sport where, if you get tackled, you get to keep the ball. That rules out Rugby League and American football.

The other daft rule is the second serve in tennis. It's reasonable, when playing with very small children, to allow them a second go if they made a mistake. The idea that some six-foot-six musclebound multimillionaire with a racket made of Semtex who can hit the ball at 150 mph can make a complete mess of his serve and then be allowed another chance is preposterous.

And don't get me started on leg byes...

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Inky Fingers | 19 June 2009 - 8:20am

Golf

Why anyone would want to watch or play "proper" golf when crazy golf is infinitely more fun is beyond me.

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Joe R | 19 June 2009 - 9:20am

Fore!

I was saying exactly the same thing to the missus the other day. How good would a world championship crazy golf tournament be?

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doomah | 19 June 2009 - 12:29pm

How close do you live...

to Hastings?

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Fraser Lewry | 19 June 2009 - 4:06pm

Chess-Boxing,

Until recently, I assumed this was a Monkey Tennis but no, it exists, people have been playing it competitively since 2003.

11 alternating three minute rounds of chess and boxing - competitors may win by knockout, checkmate, referees decision or elapsed time.

(shakes head in amazement)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_boxing

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stimpy | 19 June 2009 - 9:37am

General rule of thumb

Any sport with cheerleaders is rubbish including 20/20. Prime offenders are American football and basketball. It's like they are saying, "We know it's dull so when you get bored you can watch these girls."

That said I'd rather watch an hour of any of those sports than five minutes of Formula 1 it's a mass celebration of death.

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Cookieboy | 19 June 2009 - 9:45am

Cheerleading is a sport

Have you ever watched a cheerleading team? I don't mean the type that you get in this country that just seem to... um... shake their pom poms, I mean a proper acrobatic type of team that you would see at College Football matches in the States. In the early days of DTH satellite (before Sky Sports) they showed cheerleader championships which I thought were very entertaining.

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JohnW | 19 June 2009 - 2:34pm

George W Bush's Claim To Fame...

... (apart from being a red-neck war-monger (alledgedly)) is that he was a cheerleader at college.

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Reno Dakota | 19 June 2009 - 4:44pm

Rugby Union

Union really is the absolute arse-end of dull: 15 fat, thuggish bastards sweating their way round a pitch. There's no grace, balance or anything resembling true rugby skills. "We've got the ball! Kick it! They've got the ball! They've kicked it!" What annoys me is when there's a decent overlap, and they still bloody well boot it into the stands.

The only decent - genuinely skilled - rugby players who grace Union are the ex-League players, e.g. Jason Robinson. Union only stepped up a notch when ex-League coaches, e.g. Shaun Edwards, came in.

I'm actually not that crazy about Rugby League either, but I know which code I'd rather watch. At least in League there are tries and exciting attacking moves.

Also, Darts seems to be getting disturbingly popular, which is actually a good thing, simply because I can now claim that Pork Scratchings are training food for a honed athlete.

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peterthecook | 19 June 2009 - 10:09am

"At least in League there are tries and exciting attacking moves

As I said earlier, the League rules were deliberately designed to ensure a more attractive game for the spectactors :-)

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stimpy | 19 June 2009 - 10:14am

That's a big brush you've got with the tar there Peter....

Whither JPR, Gareth, Phil and Barry? O'Driscoll, Fox, Campese, Lynagh, Slattery and O'Gara.

Personal opinion only, I'd say there's more skill, technical ability, nuance and drama than League. RL seems solely based on running into people fast 6 times, then doing it again!

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Six Dog | 19 June 2009 - 3:23pm

...and scoring tries of

...and scoring tries of course as opposed to spending the whole game kicking penalties, didnt association football come up with that?

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gaz | 23 June 2009 - 5:33pm

A celebration of death?

No-one has been killed in a Formula 1 race since 1984 - I suspect more people have died playing (say) squash or golf in that 25 year span.

In the 55 years that Formula 1 has existed, 24 drivers have been killed in competition. Compared to (say) many other sports this isn't a large number although, of course, F1 has many fewer participants than other forms of sport.

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stimpy | 19 June 2009 - 10:09am

I was referring to the fans

It's a modern day version of The Wicker Man and the drivers are the ones in the basket.

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Cookieboy | 19 June 2009 - 10:15am

Ayrton Senna?

I think he was the last driver to die in a race and it was definitely post-1984.

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Joe R | 19 June 2009 - 10:31am

Oops... sorry... my typo

Senna and Ratzenberger were 1994 (not 1984). Previous to that were Paletti and Villeneuve in 1982

http://www.f1complete.com/content/view/228/383/

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stimpy | 19 June 2009 - 10:40am

That link

What is it if not 'a celebration of death?'

Disturbing stuff. Anyone remember Rollerball?

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Captain Underpants | 19 June 2009 - 11:57am

It's a list of facts

no more, no less

Anyone got any figures how many people die on the golf course each year?

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stimpy | 19 June 2009 - 12:06pm

Figures, maybe

but not a blow-by-blow description of how each one got burned, flattened, etc like you have there.

Golf isn't a celebration of death. But it's certainly one of the early stages of it.

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Captain Underpants | 19 June 2009 - 3:21pm

I didn't read beyond the list of dates as

F1 isn't something I have any interest in but, as a sport, I wouldn't say it's "a celebration of death".

If you're talking motorsport in general, I'm not sure any is a "celebration of death" - if only because the cars and tracks are so much safer than they were.

However, I get the impression that NASCAR is certainly "a celebration of accidents".

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stimpy | 19 June 2009 - 4:03pm

I wonder how many people

watch the first couple of laps of a Grand Prix, just to see if there's any horrible accidents, then turn off before the procession bit? I've done that, to my shame.

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Captain Underpants | 19 June 2009 - 4:21pm

Calling all actuaries: we would like to see those figures.

Which sporting activity has the highest mortality rate per 1000 participants? Boxing? Mountaineering? Show jumping? And what about all those athletes and cyclists drugging themselves to a premature death? At least boxing faces up to its dangers. If I'm ever to be punched in the head I would like a team of medics and a lot of life-saving equipment on stand-by, on hand.

What about paralysis? Is trampoleening more dangerous than rugby? And if it is, why does anyone do it? (A. Adrenalin.)

I've followed music and the national team sports on a daily basis for the past 25 years. I can't think of many cricketers, footballers or rugby players who've died before the age of 35. A few road accidents and weak hearts. I can think of plenty of musicians in indie bands who have died before the age of 35, sadly. A few road accidents, drug overdoses, cancer and the like, and suicides (depression can be a fatal mental illness).

If I were really clever I could convince an academic body to give me some money to write an essay about it.

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Robin Clarke | 23 June 2009 - 12:10am

Not really sports

Curling..?? ..Explain , please
Rythmic Gymnastics..pile of nonsense, balletic yes, sport no
Synchronised Swimming..it´s lovely an all , but it´s not a sport.

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On The Fence | 19 June 2009 - 10:35am

Curling

Curling is bizarre enough anyway, but why on earth do they need to have a separate competition for women?

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Inky Fingers | 19 June 2009 - 1:53pm

Not sure I have a problem with curling

After all, it's just bowls but on ice

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stimpy | 19 June 2009 - 2:26pm

Lucky enough to get to Sydney 2000 Olympics

and I've been a big fan of Beach Volleyball - and Women's
Pole-Vaulting since.

It was the sheer athelicism and tactical subtlety I admired.

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Sheev | 19 June 2009 - 10:52am

I've started to enjoy cricket lately

and I can watch a game of footy if one side is caning another but my interest in sport twitches about in the doldrums mainly.

I tend to agree with Dylan Moran on sports fans who once said something like, 'There you are in the stands, with your double-chin, your belly bursting through your £75 replica top, holding a pie - shouting advice to some of the highest paid and talented athletes on the planet. What the f*ck do you think you look like?'

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Beezer | 19 June 2009 - 4:21pm

As a huge fan of Speedway and Rugby League...

I'll get my coat.

I seriously do not trust anyone who says they don't like sport.

It's like saying oxygen smells funny.

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Neil Dyson | 19 June 2009 - 4:42pm

American Football

I love most sports and can see the attraction in a few others that don't particularly interest me but American Football? I've tried to get it but it seems to be built around advertising. There's no rhythm to it. I doubt even RP McMurphy could inspire me.

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Adhoc Man | 19 June 2009 - 8:24pm

Cricket, Darts, Snooker and any motor sport of any kind

however i am actually grateful for their existence, they are very good for poking fun at.

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freddieofarrell | 19 June 2009 - 10:16pm

Womens cricket

Its wrong just plain wrong

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richardh | 21 June 2009 - 10:10pm

World Cup T20

Having been at Lord's yesterday and watched the girls do their thang - as a prelude to the men's final - can I just say it may be you who is plain wrong.

Anyway, it's the one sport where England are best in the world.

Congratulations to Pakistan and hope that it helps ease some of the torment of that nation.

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Sheev | 23 June 2009 - 5:42pm

All of them

especially cricket

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Five-Centres | 23 June 2009 - 5:34pm

a few to be getting on with

golf, rugby UNION, basketball, athletics

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gaz | 23 June 2009 - 5:34pm
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