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When will 'Phoney Beatlemania' bite the dust?
Posted by James Blast on 5 September 2009 - 9:50pm.
I like The Word forum, I like the people here, I like the way things I'd forgotten are revived and my memory sparked.
I don't like all this Beatles worship, and I pray it stops soon.
Very soon.
How's the weather with you?
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Here Comes the Sun
Well its been dull today but its getting better.
Of course there was nothing
Of course there was nothing 'phoney' about the clash?!
Dampness on the edge of town
Well, I'm in Glasgow, so therefore it's raining, and it's never too early to recycle!
Give it another 40 years and maybe then it will have died
Don't count on it
We'll be celebrating the 80th anniversary of Abbey Road....and The Beatles will still be capturing the hearts and minds of countless more generations with their timeless magic and wonder.
Possibly
Hopefully 2025 will bring a retrospective of "This Is The Sea" and the majesty of The Waterboys.
Very good!!
We're all waterboys this summer north of Hadrian's thinngy.
Mike Scott is a Scot(I think)...maybe that's where he got the name?!
The Waterboys
are such a fine band. Good on you, as they don't seem to get mentioned much in these parts. The remasters were very good, weren't they ? This The Sea, Fisherman's Blues and Room To Roam especially, and the bonus material was largely high quality and excellent in places, especially on the latter two. Good songs, not filler, just no room for them on the original vinyl releases. Wonderful celtic folk/rock/blues/gospel fusion in there. I'm hoping to finally get to see them live sometime, after all these years.
Anyway, back to the Beatles. No it won't, thankfully.
Wtaerboys Live
A fantastic band live. I 've lost count how many times I have seen them live but if you want to hear them at their best try and track down the double live CD from 1986.
Do you mean
Live Adventures Of..? That's a fantastic one. 16 year old me turned up at Acton to see them only to find I was a week late.
It was summer '86. Jazz tobacco was to blame at the time I fear.
Yes that is the album
My favourites are The Pan Within/Because The Night and their version of Purple Rain.
I'm with you James.
We'll be getting a new mag on our doorsteps very soon. I noticed one of the mag's rivals had the fabs on the cover...maybe we'll get a beardy like Zevon, or Loudon, or Earle or Costello. We might even get a girl!!
What is this 'girl' you speak of?
Hmm?
Ray-ay-ay-ay-ay-ain
the weather's fine
addendum
Help! is on the telly, I like that bit and it's stopped raining
Next weekend
Once the BBC has stopped showing the ads for the re-releases and those that want them have put the box sets on some specially constructed new shelving this recent Beatles overdose will be a thing of the past - hopefully sometime next weekend.
Of course we will have the "Which ones did you buy?", "Why does it sound just like I expected it to?" and "Where's the hiss gone?" threads in the meantime.
Phoney Clashmania
More to the point, when will phoney Clashmania bite the dust.
At least the Beatles sold records worldwide to both genders, all races and all ages, and, crucially, didn't wear crap clothes at every opportunity.
Seconded
Posturing bores who morphed into poor man's Stones wannabes. Yawn.
not a big Clash fan myself...
...but always thought they looked great.
I'd rather a Clasher
than a Beatler be. Thank the lord that they don't get fawned over by The Word massive. If they're still irritating folk, they're still doing their job.
They're not irritating
They're not irritating people half as much as The Beatles are with these re-issues.
Of the many (unfair) accusations that can be levelled
at The Clash, crap clothes is certainly not one of them.
Epstein got the suits badly wrong, Lennon and McCartney's face fungus was a bad bad choice too (suited Starr and Harrison though!). Simonon/Rhodes and Jones dressed The Clash IMMACULATELY
Rock The Catwalk
'Immaculately dressed' says it all really.
Action Man Joe
So they look really cool on the 'Rock The Casbah' (can't remember the actual title) album cover do they?
Naaahhhh, they look like kids playing at soldiers.
I agree
My point being - more style than substance.
Don't forget the ill-advised 'Clash man the barricades'
photoshoot in Belfast
Just four blokes outside M&S really innit?
But don't think we weren't grateful for their stylish and sympathetic support. Not until years later when Jim Kerr stood miming on a windswept dockland would a people (or at least their bowels) feel so moved.
The Beatles
were far superiorly trousered.
No One sings like Dylan
*ahem*
And who says Bob
never gives the fans what they want! :-)
Beatles Bollocks
should be consigned to the bin now. It is getting pretty bloody boring.
Waterboys live is a great experience - seen them about 5 times, each show very different, each show memorable in its own right.
Is it too soon to point out that
it's only 3 years until the 50th anniversary of 'Love Me Do' (5th October 2012 if you want to put it in your diaries). Just think what the marketing frenzy will be like between then and 8th May 2020 (that's the 50th birthday of 'Let It Be' trivia fans), and God knows what formats will be available by then.
P.S. The Waterboys quite good too.
Copyright on the new records
Your post reminds me that as far as I know, copyright on recordings was for fifty years, until recently, when it was extended to seventy years in the EU.
I may not be quite right about the details, but does anyone know if this means that the new re-issues will now be copyright for seventy years? As the work on these remasters has been going on for some years, it must have started when the limit on copyrght was still fifty years. As that limit would have been approaching, starting as Steven says in 2012, could this have been a factor in deciding on the reissue?
I think that once Macca & Bongo are permanently horizonal
that might well be that... The last living witnesses are disappearing rapidly.
I love the Scouse Mop Tops, but I do know what you mean, James. I really do.
Yeah - let's talk about something else for a bit...
Did anyone know that the St.Etienne deluxe editions are on Spotify now?
Sounding good, I reckon!
Good God
St. Etienne. Call a priest. No, better make that an exorcist.
Tales from turnpike house
Is a corking record... Guest appearance by David Essex... C'mon - you know you want to!!
cheers Adman
I know the advice is "if you don't like it avoid it" but when the forum is swamped by it and threads you were happily playing on are skewed towards "God's One True Band", I feel some 'moderation' is required. There was a thread about Ride reforming that grew out of another Oasis split, I love Ride me, and Curve and The Chameleons and The Pale Saints, let's have some chats about them and turn The Massifs' heid thataway.
just for a change
Pale Saints
Sea of Sound. I loved that track and did like the album. Lost long ago. I bought a another one one back then and the line-up had changed and there was a new female vocalist. Shite album.
I must confess
to being guilty of starting a recent Hey Jude Hitmakers thread... But in my defence I did start the Ride one!
At least
with all the royalties coming in Macca can up his alimony money to Heather - not that she needs it, she will only waste it on Shoe.
well
I LOLd
No, she'll give it all to charity
because that's what she's always done, and no-one ever recognises her tireless fundraising and selflessness, like y'knaa.
Divven't like to taak aboot it, mind...
And any left
will get spent on Cuprinol
She could celebrate by
going out and getting legl...oh, hang on.
The Clash???
..purlease!
About six good songs, a pretty good frontman (who couldn't sing) and a strong sense of being in the right place at the right time.
Fondly remembered only in comparison with that well known boy band Towers Of Lon..sorry The Sex Pistols.