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When vinyl was king...

mojoworking's picture

...people would sometimes do this kind of thing when they gave records to loved ones. It's simultaneously touching and yet tantamount to vandalism at the same time, isn't it?

34 years on (this is a 1977 pressing) I wonder if John and Sheila are still together. Did they live happily ever after in a Milton Keynes semi with a bunch of grandkids who visit on weekends and holidays, or did John pack up his loon pants and run off with the floozy from the Co-op after he discovered punk?

Those six kisses make Sheila appear a little needy if you ask me and the fact that the LP ended up being traded in doesn't bode well for a happy ending.

My wife still has a couple of LPs which her sister gave her as birthday gifts many years ago. Both of them have a soppy greeting complete with kisses writ large in biro on the front cover. Whenever I stumble upon them the record collector inside me winces involuntarily.

Writing on records (other than autographs of course): is it a crime against humanity, or can it ever be acceptable?

What’s your experience?

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Crime

You know the answer is crime. You'd need a pretty good lawyer to get you off that charge.

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JohnW | 14 October 2011 - 7:04am

My dad put

stickers all over his with his name on and this helped me win an original piece of art worth £3500 so I have no problem with it.

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jimmyshoes01 | 14 October 2011 - 8:12am

Don't rub it in you git

I entered that competition as well, only to be sadly disappointed.

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Spider-mans arc... | 14 October 2011 - 11:27am

looks like it didn't take long

for John Peel's wife to sell off his record collection

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Nick Duvet | 14 October 2011 - 8:13am

I have a similar aversion

to well-meaning messages in books. Surely the writer's intentions should be clear by the gift alone?

And as you point out when the gift is passed on the recipient's feelings for the gift are made only too clear.

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donttellhimpike | 14 October 2011 - 8:26am

Books

I did think about including books, although at least the annotation is usually hidden away inside on the title page, which makes the defacement slightly less of an eyesore.

A lifetime ago when I was 7 years old, I won a bible at primary school (don't ask) and for reasons unknown the RI teacher decided (totally unbidden) to try his hand at calligraphy and wrote my name and the details of the prize in large lettering inside the book in the font we would later come to know as the Motorhead logo.

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mojoworking | 14 October 2011 - 8:51am

Not an Investment opportunity

it's a gift.Have no problem with people writing on records or in books. When i get a record or book i don't think 'Great ! keep it in mint condition so i can knock it out on eBay in 30 years' I want to read/listen to it.
Like those kids who kept Dinky toys in the original packaging and never took them out,It's these people who are responsible for the mess the world is in. Who didn't tear open the box to get to the car. ? It's a Toy car not a Securities bond. Rant over.

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Sour Crout | 14 October 2011 - 9:51am

I fondly remember James May buying a mint Hornby train

at auction and promptly tearing the box open and binning the packaging before stuffing the train in his pockets :-)

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stimpy | 14 October 2011 - 1:53pm

Yes!

And the look of abject horror on the faces of the "collectors" around him was absolutely priceless.

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Six Dog | 14 October 2011 - 4:43pm

Up With This Sort Of Thing!

My room would be a lot easier to navigate if I stuck by Mr. May's actions, Hell! today I threw out a box that housed a very nice 'Shrek in his outhouse' figure, the box has been sitting on a shelf gathering dust and nicotine stains for about seven years.

I hope his wasn't a stunt box... yeah, I know - this way madness lies...

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James Blast | 14 October 2011 - 11:00pm

I love...

...the records and books with comments in them. I don't buy a record or book to sell in 30 years, I buy/bought them to listen to or read.

I don't have a camera handy, but my Animal Krackers LP has a brilliant note to myself (aged 7). "I'm lissening to this becase Daddy hates me."

Excellent choice of record there for me, I think.

About ten years ago, I picked a Salinger book off my shelf that had been bought for me by a colleague when I was 18/19, but never read. Inside was a very heartfelt, loving message. I never saw it at the time. I wonder what he thought about me completely ignoring his plea.

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JoLean | 14 October 2011 - 10:04am

"I'm lissening to this becase Daddy hates me."

That's SO sad...!!! Must have been a bad day...

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PhilOBrien | 14 October 2011 - 4:42pm

Are you thinking of Animal Kwackers?

They had a TV show when I was a kid. They were a tight glam rock covers band and the singer was called Rory (a lion) and the drummer was called Bongo. Every week, Rory would read a story and the others would sing:

"Rory, Rory, tell us a story
Rory, Rory, tell it like it is"

The other memory was that they performed original material sometimes and would claim the song as their latest "hit" single. I don't remember them troubling the charts.

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Austin | 17 October 2011 - 2:03am

Yes

It was them - just wrote r rather than an w.

You forgot Twang and Boots.

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JoLean | 17 October 2011 - 9:01am

Books not vinyl. I had a friend

who's ex boyfriend was a best selling novelist. He was a bit of an arse by all accounts. One of his books had a girlfriend character directly based on her which painted a very one sided view of a failing relationship, favouring the man.

My friend took it upon herself to type out a message explaining to the reader this dishonesty and filled in a few gaps about the author. She photocopied loads of these notes and every time she was in a Waterstones slipped the message into the relevant chapter of his books.

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Zanti Misfit | 14 October 2011 - 10:23am

"There's a rockabilly party on Sauturday night ..."

I have a lot of records that I sort of "borrowed" from my older sister: Beatles albums, T Rex singles, Move singles, Kinks singles and Mott The Hoople's "Roll Away The Stone" (in which Ian Hunter asks Lynsey De Paul if she's ""gonna bring your records" to the "rockabilly party on Saturday night") and pretty much all of them have "Jane Lowe" written on them in girlie teenage scrawl. That's what people used to do. Kids took their records to parties and "marked" them to avoid disputes about whose was what.
I have a lot of second hand records and books too, with other people's names, or little messages in them and I like it. I bought my copy of Four Tops Greatest Hits Vol 2 "pre-owned" in a second-hand record shop nearly thirty years and I know who the previous owner was and where she lived: Cathy Mythen 176, Stonedale Cres. Croxteth Liverpool 11. It's a record I've played an awful lot over the years and I've sometimes wondered about Cathy': what she looked like; what became of her; if she still lives at 176 Stonedale Cres. And I've often wondered what possesed her to get rid of an album with Walk Away Renee, Still Water, Do What You Gotta Do, Yesterdays Dreams, I Can't Help Myself, Simple Game etc. on it. Daft cow.

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Richard Lowe | 14 October 2011 - 12:02pm

I went through a phase

Of stapling concert ticket stubs to the inner sleeve of the lp that was being toured. It's quite a nice reminder of times long gone when every now and then I dig out the vinyl and see one.
As for books, I have some with messages written by family who are now long gone and that's nice as well.

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BryanD | 14 October 2011 - 1:50pm

Strange though...

No-one seemed that worried when Porky did much the same!! I always used to look forward to those obscure and surreal little messages on the run off grooves. You can't scratch in the run off of an MP3 file. Sigh...

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Trevor_Raggatt | 14 October 2011 - 2:22pm

you can

write a load of bollocks in the 'Comments' box when you do a 'Get Info' in iTunes

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James Blast | 14 October 2011 - 4:29pm

Brilliant!!!

I'm off to write twaddle in the Get Info "Comments" box right now... one track down only about 22,000 to go!

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Trevor_Raggatt | 18 October 2011 - 10:50pm

No one worried

about the Porky Prime Cuts messages in the run out grooves because they were added to every copy of a particular release at the manufacturing stage and as such were an integral part of the record itself, along with the sleeve, label and inserts. They often related to the music or artist and were usually quite witty and/or enigmatic as well.

They can't really be compared with a former owner's name or a dedication of undying love written in biro.

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mojoworking | 15 October 2011 - 5:33am

I've been racking my brain

for the past two days trying to remember the Bowie ones and found these on Bowie Wonderworld;

SCRATCHED MESSAGES ON VINYL ALBUMS: (These messages were scratched on by Tony Visconti). Scary Monsters And Super Creeps: I can't think.... of anything.... Lodger: No sense is better.... than none at all. "Heroes": Dave's RCA. Stage: (Side 1) Zig. (Side 2) Stame. (Side 3) Loroes. (Side 4) Helows.
SCRATCHED MESSAGES ON VINYL SINGLES: (These messages were scratched on by Tony Visconti). Boys Keep Swinging: Your Bicameral Mind.... Mind Your Bicameral. Fashion: So There! Alabama Song: Ta Kurt. Space Oddity (acoustic version): Sorry Gus. John, I'm Only Dancing (Again): At last. John, I'm Only Dancing (72 version): Shape of Things....

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donttellhimpike | 16 October 2011 - 5:55pm

I bought

heaps of old punk singles, many i already owned, from Grouchos in Dundee about 20 years back. All the covers had been customised with home made stickes utilising that stuff like ticker tape with raised lettering. Most of the stickers were political slogans ("fuck the front", "black and white unite and fight", all that good stuff).
They are a good, if not better, representation of the times that bore them.

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drilltime | 14 October 2011 - 11:06pm

Dymo Tape?

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stimpy | 15 October 2011 - 9:05am

Impossible

to remove without causing terminal damage to the sleeve/label.

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mojoworking | 15 October 2011 - 9:08am

"Fuck the front"

usually preceded by "You needn't think you're putting it in there"

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Moose the Mooche | 16 October 2011 - 6:14pm

I bought "Eat to the Beat" in a charity shop

It has my first name on the cover with "love from Kath XX". I thought of pretending that I had once had a girlfriend called Kath who loved me enough to give me such a damn good record.

Couldn't go through with it.

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Moose the Mooche | 16 October 2011 - 6:10pm

It could be worse.

I own/have owned a fair number of American records where the owner's name has been scrawled onto the sleeve and/or label with a thick, black, permanent marker. Perhaps the worst being the otherwise pristine White Album (sleeve, poster, back of pictures and all four labels. Curse you, Greg Farnam, whoever you were.)

That said, I have a copy of "A Collection Of Beatles Oldies" (the Fame reissue) whose labels were signed by my classmates at school (I'd bought it during the lunch break in my last week at school.)

With regard to the John Martyn album, mojo, I'd be less worried about the scrawl and more concerned with the damage that the snot that appears to have dried onto the run-out groove might do to your stylus!

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Wardour | 16 October 2011 - 6:53pm

For all we know...

...it might not be snot ;-)

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mojoworking | 17 October 2011 - 1:10am

What do you mean

"was"?

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Mousey | 18 October 2011 - 11:11pm

Good call!

For some of us, vinyl will always be king.

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mojoworking | 18 October 2011 - 11:48pm
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