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When did pop music get so NOISY?

Joe R's picture

Last week, I listened to the entire Top 40 on Radio 1. I'm not about to denounce all modern pop music as rubbish; some of it was pretty good.

However, what was most striking was how NOISY everything was. Most songs had no semblance of dynamics and any trace of subtlety had been sledgehammered out of them. I was wondering why this is and came up with three possible reasons:
- the "loudness wars"; as covered by The Word before, now you can see songs represented as waveforms on ProTools, the temptation is always to "fill in" any gaps
- shorter attention spans; thanks to the internet and particularly social networking, people get easily distracted, songs no longer have time to "grow on you". They have to catch your interest right away otherwise... oh, look, a squirrel.
- competition; music is now often listened to on the move. Therefore, any song has got to compete with ambient traffic noise and sometimes other music leaking out from poor quality headphones.

So, any other suggestions as to why this is?

In case you're wondering, in the class of 2011, THIS is the worst offender (maybe NSFW due to fruity language).


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I think you've got most of it covered.

Most of it is just laziness, though. That song you just posted is just a cut and paste job of lazy "dirty pop" clichés: dispiritingly unerotic sexual content? Check! Swearing? Check! Using autotune as a deliberate effect? Check!

When you're assembling a song in committee, probably the last thing on your mind is whether or not there's any dynamic range or subtlety or - heaven forbid - songcraft in there. They've got a limited number of buttons to push, and they just mash them at random. And it works as a sales device, so why not do it all the time?

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Bob | 14 March 2011 - 11:03am

Jessie J

God! How I loathe this sort of 'music'.

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Steerpike | 14 March 2011 - 11:13am

See, I really don't.

I like pop, and particularly electro pop. I just think this is a bad example.

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Bob | 14 March 2011 - 1:40pm

I think my epiphany came...

... when I was forced to listen to a lot of Capital Radio and the unbelievable horror of The Black Eyed Peas doing I've Had The Time Of My Life came on. It was my very first "But it's just a noise!" moment I've ever had. But I stand by it.

I may not like grime or dubstep very much but it's a crafted and created sound, just because I'm not a fan doesn't mean it's rubbish. But this tune was a cover, with all the nuance (of which there wasn't much of) removed, a thumpy beat, crap rapping and autotune everywhere. It was offensive because it was lazy. The elements were "take a well loved tune by many, add modern stuff, make it noisy" and it was awful. A lot of pop these days has at least two of these components and it's dull.

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ganglesprocket | 14 March 2011 - 11:21am

I don't like Black Eyed Peas but......

....it's a hard nose that doesn't recognise Will I Am's pop chops.

I don't know of anyone over the age of 11 who will admit to liking them but yet they sell (by today's standards) a humungous amount of records.

All the usual suspects are present and correct. Autotune, Vocoder, sample, compressed to within an inch of life and a skimpily clad singer.

Are these any different to the "formula's" to sell records introduced by the likes of Epstein, Chinnichap, Gordy, Moroder, and SAW?

Different times, different tools. Same pop demographic.

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Six Dog | 14 March 2011 - 5:35pm

I think it's quite cool

Unusual, lot of full-on, attitude, cool sentiment, good tune.

It's a great calling card for her first single - and it's certainly done the trick

And she can really sing.

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Chimney Singing... | 14 March 2011 - 11:30am

Another Jessie J fan here

I really like Price Tag.

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Hannah | 14 March 2011 - 1:37pm

"Price Tag" is better

I think, but I'd still say I very much don't like it. There's something quite funny though about the UK act who's had the most money thrown at them and promotional weight behind them all year singing about how bad capitalism is.

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Joe R | 14 March 2011 - 1:42pm

Ha!

I didn't know that about her promotional spend etc. That is rather amusing indeed.

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Hannah | 14 March 2011 - 2:17pm

Can I just point out

that my facts regarding money spent on her are completely made up. She's been very heavily promoted though.

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Joe R | 14 March 2011 - 3:16pm

Not as much as you'd think

'Do It Like A Dude' grew way beyond everyone's expectations very quickly. they haven't had time to spend as much as they'd like, they brought the album forward to cope with demand.

They haven't spent as much on it as say, Rumer.

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Chimney Singing... | 14 March 2011 - 4:00pm

It's about the production though...

... isn't it?

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ganglesprocket | 14 March 2011 - 11:32am

That's what I meant

...it's cool, full on and goes with the attitude of the song. It makes an impact by having loads going on which ties in with the attitude of the tune and the first line 'stomp stomp I've arrived'.

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Chimney Singing... | 14 March 2011 - 11:34am

it's not just pop music

a lot of those emo rock bands fill every space of a record with noise. Completely drowning any song that might be under the layers of pro tools.

Hopefully it's a production fad like the over use of fairlights in the 80's and they'll eventually realise things sound better with out a noise on every track.

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MrSib | 14 March 2011 - 12:00pm

This is why many

modern albums are hard to sit and listen to from start to finish. It just becomes white noise that you tune out and you find yourself incapable of remembering anything afterwards.

I find the first two Muse albums and the first Arcade Fire album (Funeral) also suffer from too much crammed into too small a space. Hate U2 all you like, but at least a bit of space is always left which they could fill in but they don't. That Arcade Fire album sounds great on shuffle but put two of those songs back to back and I just blank out.

Absolution by Muse (album three) is by far their most consistantly heavy release but some space was left here and there and it is a pleasure to listen to (one of my fabvourite metal albums).

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LOUDspeaker | 14 March 2011 - 1:44pm

The 90s

This started back then, huge amounts of compression on every bloody track left right and centre making every part of the track loud. While on some things it sounds great, on others it removes any trace of subtlety.

20 years of it so far, it's more than just a fad...

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SimonL | 14 March 2011 - 12:58pm

Do It Like a Dude lyrics are

Do It Like a Dude lyrics are attacking mysogony, aren't they? Or am i reading too much into this? She sounds pissed off.

And I must say I admire her spiky black lipstick.

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Zanti Misfit | 14 March 2011 - 2:02pm

Not really My Bag

just to say albums from Paul Simon, Dutch Uncles and Michael Head And The Red Elastic Band coming up they will get alot more of my attention

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MrRadio | 14 March 2011 - 2:54pm

Can we stop blaming Pro Tools for music please?

It's really just a computer programme, it's like blaming Microsoft Word because novels aren't as good these days as when people were typing them on typewriters (this isn't an opinion I hold, I just use it as an example).

It's just a set of tools for people to use however they wish (which is probably how they came up with the name).

It's entirely possible to create a song in Pro Tools that only uses 4 tracks (or less) and doesn't fill every single space with noise before being compressed and limited to buggery rather than mastered properly. That hardly anyone does that says more about the producers and record companies than the software. And it's entirely possible to make music that's just as bad-sounding using any of the other major audio applications.

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Dr Yang | 14 March 2011 - 3:40pm

I'm not explicitly blaming ProTools

In fact, I've never used it. My understanding was that common consensus was that since ProTools became widely used, people could "see" their tracks as a wave form. If you can see the tracks you can see the gaps and the temptation is there to "fill in" those gaps in order to make more of an impact.

Yes, a bad workman blames their tools. It's not the fault of ProTools per se, but its functionality has led to this trend.

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Joe R | 14 March 2011 - 4:49pm

It's all been noise since acid house was all the rage

All that shouting for attention. But just as well it's loud, as i can't hear a thing otherwise.

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Five-Centres | 14 March 2011 - 4:11pm

Blame it on radio.

The louder your song is recorded, the more it stands out, particularly when people are listening in cars, and the more it sells. Detailed in Greg Milner's excellent Perfecting Sound Forever.

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Lenny Law | 14 March 2011 - 5:04pm

Oasis records were mastered particularly loudly.

Partially because of the heroic intake of alcohol and marching powder and partly because Noel wanted them to sound good on the radio.

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Six Dog | 14 March 2011 - 5:39pm

Making sure that....

your record sounds loud on radio has been going on for years. Motown records were mastered louder for radio and jukeboxes so that they would sound 'better' compared to quieter songs.

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humphreym | 14 March 2011 - 6:05pm
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