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What's In A Name?

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I've just received the new single from Psapp. I haven't played it and, to be honest, I probably never will (sorry, Domino) because, and I'm not proud to admit this, I just don't like their name. It makes me feel uncomfortable. I have been sent, probably, every record they've ever made and I don't think I've listened to any of them. I know, ridiculous, isn't it? And I don't think I know how to pronounce it. Is it P-sap or Sap or, y'know, something else? Am I alone here, or does everyone give some bands the swerve because they're not keen on what they're called?

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Give 'em the Elbow

I just can't get beyond that name for some reason - I could go there if they were called Groin, Armpit or Funny Groove-Type Thing Between Your Top Lip And Your Nose, but "Elbow" is a silly body part too far. It's irrational, yes, but no less real for being so.

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Archie Valparaiso | 3 October 2008 - 11:08am

Philtrum

...apparently.

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AgentGraves | 3 October 2008 - 11:42am

I bet Elbow named themselves

after a scene in the last Dennis Potter TV play.

A writer walked around the grounds of a hospital talking about what an odd word "elbow" is. I believe it was Dennis Potter's favourite word.

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LOUDspeaker | 3 October 2008 - 1:40pm

Renaldo and the Loaf liked

Renaldo and the Loaf liked it too http://renaldoloaf.turkeyworld.org/albums/EiT.htm

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Andy Lynes | 3 October 2008 - 2:07pm

And we have a winner!

That is, quite literally, true.

As a quick google will confirm.

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Paul Waring | 4 October 2008 - 8:24am

From the Psapp website:

From the Psapp website: "Encoutering Psapp chanteuse Galia Durant and her musical confrere,multi-instrumentalist and mixing desk wiz Carim Clasmann at their clandestine Kings Cross HQ-cum-studio-playpen is less like meeting a band and more like stumbling into a funny, hazy, miraculous parallel universe."

Google language tool: translate text from "Music Biz PR Bullshit" to "English"

"You have to go to a poky flat in a dodgy part of London to find Galia Durant and her mate Carim Clasmann who make hippy drippy records in their bedroom all by themselves because no one else wants to work with them."

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Andy Lynes | 3 October 2008 - 11:20am

Applause

And why is it "clandestine"? Do they, peut être, record in an MDMA lab? Maybe they think it just means "takes ages to find because someone sprayed "WIGGY" in purple DupliColor over the nameplate".

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Archie Valparaiso | 3 October 2008 - 12:26pm

I really like Psapp

Although I must admit I haven't actually heard them. But they claim to be "the only band endorsed by felines", and that makes them alright by me.

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Fraser Lewry | 3 October 2008 - 11:25am

surely

the straycats, pussy cat dolls have feline endorsement as well

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Chris G | 3 October 2008 - 2:34pm

The unpronouncables

? and the Mysterons (or was it Mysterions?)
!!!
Ken Dodd's DAd's Dog's Dead

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Gatz | 3 October 2008 - 11:30am

I once saw a band

called The Mr Rons, they were ace.

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Niks | 3 October 2008 - 2:08pm

I know exactly what you mean, Rob

I can't bring myself to listen to any band with a five letter name starting with an 'O' and ending with an 'S'.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 3 October 2008 - 11:32am

Wh-wh-what?

Pull yourself together, man! The O'Jays were brilliant.

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Archie Valparaiso | 3 October 2008 - 12:35pm

How long?

How much Googling was involved before you found another 5 letter band starting with O and ending with S, Archie?!

Very good, mind!

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Red Umpire | 3 October 2008 - 7:52pm

I should set rock crosswords, me

It went like this. "0---S". The Ovals? No, they probably existed, no doubt as as an elliptical doowop outfit, but I've never heard of them. How about Greece's premier punkabilly band, the Ouzos? Hmm. Ah, yes, got it - the O'Jays!

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Archie Valparaiso | 4 October 2008 - 8:17am

It works in reverse too

There's a band called Someone Still Loves You Boris Yeltsin and although I've no idea what they sound like, I'm very much inclined to find out.

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Joe R | 3 October 2008 - 11:37am

What about

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Niks | 3 October 2008 - 2:07pm

They are, according to their My Space

pronounced Sapp. The seem to have an unhealthy liking for Cats but they do have a good tune called Hi.

Info Bulletin Over.

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Springer Bell | 3 October 2008 - 12:49pm

Whisper it quietly

But The Trashcan Sinatras struck me as a name to avoid. That's what happens when you judge a book by it's cover.

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Beany | 3 October 2008 - 12:58pm

Same with movies

I was once offered preview tickets for a movie called Fled. The only reason I didn't take them up on the offer was because of its title. To me it sounded like a nasal illness rather than a potential cinematic classic.

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Crowdedmouse | 3 October 2008 - 1:17pm

Always given An*l C**t a wide berth...

Never liked the New Fast Automatic Daffodils and the equally rubbish acronym either.

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Six Dog | 3 October 2008 - 1:30pm

so you've not

read the poem either that is New Fads not an8l c8mt which is actually a poem as well from Pam Ayres latest foilo "scrapping houmous off the wheel..."

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Chris G | 3 October 2008 - 2:37pm

The Tragically Hip

No thanks Sir!

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Twangothan | 3 October 2008 - 2:31pm

They have 2 good songs...

Little Bones is good, as is Locked In The Trunk Of A Car. I am fairly partial to I'm A Werewolf Baby as well.

Crap name I agree, big in Canada is never a good sign either, but genuinely more good songs than Doherty ever managed.

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ganglesprocket | 3 October 2008 - 10:51pm

The Sadies

Big in Canada, great name, should be big everywhere in a just world.

On the name-so-awful-I'm-not-going-to-listen front: Ned's Atomic Dustbin.

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James EB | 4 October 2008 - 10:25am

Joe Lean and the Jing Jang Jong

So bad that they scrapped their album a week before release.

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LOUDspeaker | 3 October 2008 - 2:34pm

saw this lot

on NME tour thing and they were bobbins the ting tings blew them away (which says quite alot)
in fact that show had a flush of annoying names because "does this annoy yeah" where on the bill as well oh and Jonny Marr

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Chris G | 3 October 2008 - 2:39pm

Autechre

Is it 'Ort-ecker'? 'O-tech-r'? 'Or-te-cree'?

If I don't know how to pronounce their name, I'm not going to listen to their music.

Oh, and You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead. Another very off-putting name.

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Tim Turner | 3 October 2008 - 2:46pm

Ort-Ek-Er...

...is how I pronounce it, but being an Orbital fan I have lots of fellow fans who also like Autechre. The apparent word from the Autechre boys themselves is that they purposely chose a word with ambiguous pronunciation to trigger conversations like this and that 'it's pronounced the way you want to pronounce it'.

Could be worse - how do you pronounce this?


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AgentGraves | 3 October 2008 - 3:19pm

Pronounced the way you want to pronounce it

Oh, that's a relief, then, because I've always pronounced it "prannocks".

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Archie Valparaiso | 4 October 2008 - 8:46am

Oh Archie

Wait 'til I've nothing in my gob...!

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Beany | 4 October 2008 - 8:52am

In terms of pure ugliness ...

... I would offer Scraping Foetus off the Wheel, Carcass and Creaming Jesus. Never gone near them.

The The has always struck me as silly name, which never comes off the tongue in one piece. And there's something about the double "a" in The Kursaal Flyers that irritates me.

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Martin | 3 October 2008 - 4:20pm

Kursaal

rhymes with Wurzel, if that's of any help. Apparently "The word Kursaal is German, meaning a "Cure Hall" or spa, and it seems to have been adapted to mean a place of healthy amusement", which certainly shows someone had their finger in the irony pie.

It's a hive of scum and villany to rival Mos Eisley.

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Fraser M | 3 October 2008 - 5:23pm

and as eny fule kno

the Kursaal Flyers were from former rock-n-roll town of Southend in Essex, which for many years had a rather splendid old amusement park and dance hall named The Kursaal. It was quite the place to go, until it fell out of favour and was closed and demolished in the late 70s.

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PhilC | 9 October 2008 - 4:13pm

That's what I was talking about

I'm from Southend.

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Fraser M | 10 October 2008 - 11:17am

Won't hear a word against Mr Thirwell

But for the record my copy of Sink (mighty fine album)
lists the following):

Foetus
Foetus Interruptus
Scraping Foetus Off the Wheel
Foetus Eruptus
The Foetus All-Nude Revue
Foetus Under Glass
You've Got Foetus On Your Breath
Foetus Uber Frisco
Foetus In Your Bed
Foetus Art Terrorism
The Foetus of Excellence
Foetus Inc

The man surely deserves a thread of his own...

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Moseleymoles | 3 October 2008 - 9:33pm

Spin 1ne 2wo

I saw some programme with Paul Carrack on TV last night, never heard of the bloke but I thought he had a really good voice (crap music though).

I was checking a bit more about him and discovered he released an album of covers - Hendrix, Who, Led Zep amongst others.

Seemed interesting until I noticed it was released under the band name Spin 1ne 2wo.

Interest ended very abruptly!

Although I have unfortunately heard their music on the radio, I would have avoided Elbow if I could, not just their name but their faces put me off too.

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Retro Man | 3 October 2008 - 4:18pm

Paul Carrack....

....is quite famous if you're my age.

He wrote and sang "How Long" which was a #1 for a band called Ace in the '70s.

He was also the lead singer with Mike And The Mechanics whos most famous song was "In The Living Years".

I think he replaced Jools as Squeeze's keyboard player too, though only for a short while.

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bigsteviecook | 3 October 2008 - 4:45pm

Played keyboards on The Smiths'

debut too apparently - never knew that! I've heard of Mike & The Mechanics and also didn't know he was in Squeeze - music is wonderful isn't it - always something new to discover!

I'm not sure he's my thing generally but I was quite taken with his voice, as my mum and dad would say "he can carry a tune".

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Retro Man | 3 October 2008 - 8:04pm

Squeeze

Paul Carrack was indeed in Squeeze for a while - he sang 'Tempted' at producer Elvis Costello's insistence. Glenn Tillbrook described this as "a bruising blow to my ego...." until he heard the finished article : "...the hurt faded quickly, but the pleasure remains strong." A lovely voice indeed.

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nigelthebald | 3 October 2008 - 8:59pm

"Tempted" was indeed one of the songs

he sang now you mention it, very good it was too, although at the time I had no idea it was a Squeeze song.
To be honest my interest in Squeeze kind of finished after "Cool For Cats" & "Up The Junction".

Now, Squeeze there's a crap name if ever I heard one!

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Retro Man | 3 October 2008 - 9:26pm

Nick Lowe

Paul played in Nick's band for a few years in the 80's.

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Carl Parker | 4 October 2008 - 7:41pm

Paul Carrack is a member of that select band

That always wears a hat. Only musicians can do this.

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Graham Johns | 6 October 2008 - 8:56pm

I forgot about the mighty Spizz ...

... or was it Spizz Oil? Or Spizz Energi? Or Athletico Spizz 80? Or The Spizzles? Or, who cares? If you can't settle on a decent name then I can't be bothered to listen.

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Martin | 3 October 2008 - 5:51pm

Au contraire

Part of the fun with Spizz was finding out the name of the next incarnation.

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Carl Parker | 4 October 2008 - 7:42pm

You're right...

...I love 'em really, especially the eurovision offshoot Buck Spizz.

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Martin | 5 October 2008 - 1:52pm

The F*ck Buttons

What's that all about then?

Also, the (whisper it quietly, pretty good) Sub-Pop CD that came with a recent M*jo has a track on it by Pissed Jeans. I really can't imagine myself ever liking it...

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Red Umpire | 3 October 2008 - 7:58pm

I've never heard the music of...

John Cougar Concentration Camp, and I doubt I ever will.

Is it the worst name for a band ever, or the best? Hmmm....

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Patrick Crowther | 3 October 2008 - 9:19pm

I bought a Psapp CD and one song on iTunes

I quite like them. They did a song called "Cosy In The Rocket" which is/was used as the opening credits music on Grey's Anatomy.


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Dr Yang | 3 October 2008 - 10:11pm

As a lobbyist for the League of Obvious Headline Writers...

I look forward to Elbow being nominated once again for a prize in the same shortlist as the-soon-to-be-discovered Arse.

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Stan Halen | 4 October 2008 - 2:02am

Kings Of Convenience...

... always struck me as a band who'd be 'emo'. How wrong could you be?

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Reno Dakota | 4 October 2008 - 11:48am

I've always hated

The Dandy Warhols, which raises a smile at first hearing but grates every time subsequently. And their brothers in arms - The Brian Jonestown Massacre.

'The Strange Death of Liberal England' sound like a band whose music I'll never hear for fear of pomposity.

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DogFacedBoy | 4 October 2008 - 5:13pm

Most band names are rubbish

aren't they? Then you get used to them when they get successful. Like Dire Straits and The Beatles.

We could work this thread the other way round: like, how disappointed I was when I actually heard Pop Will Eat Itself.

D

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David Perry | 4 October 2008 - 8:10pm

Skunk Anansie

Why? And why is their singer called Skin?

Puts me off I tell you.

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Thomas the Rhymer | 6 October 2008 - 11:39am

Ah, the 80s!

Prefab Sprout - it just doesn't work for me. Yes, I know they're two words that aren't meant to go together, which may be the whole point, but it sets my teeth on edge. Never liked the music much, either.

Scritti Politti - "scritti" sounds too harsh. Green Gartside's voice used to drive me up the wall, too. And as for Wood Bees, don't get me started...

Stephen 'Tintin' Duffy - two two-syllable names do not lend themselves to a two-syllable nickname. And surely the point of a nickname is that everybody comes to know you by it. But as far as I can remember, he was always Stephen 'Tintin' Duffy, never just plain old Tintin Duffy. AND he dropped out of Duran Duran just before all the hits and supermodels. Back to the drawing board...

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MrLovegrove | 6 October 2008 - 2:37pm

Saw him...

at a Matthew Sweet/Velvet Crush gig - Mrs Kitson is a big fan of his Lilac Time so had a chat to him and asked what he was up to.

He was very cagey and mumbled that he could not really talk about it, just said he was writing songs with someone - I thought it was a bit strange, he wasn't being rude or anything, far from it, he just kind of looked quite embarrassed.

Next time I saw him was on Later playing guitar in Robbie Williams's backing band...!

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Retro Man | 6 October 2008 - 3:00pm

Sometimes there are lovely surprises.

For years I missed out on Loudon Wainwright the Third simply because I thought he had a stupid name. I hope I'm over silly things like that now?

The Agnostic Mountain Gospel Choir from last months freebie would be something I'd probably skip over in a record shop simply because it's such a mouthfull. Great track on the cd though....I bought their "Ten Thousand" cd yesterday.

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bigsteviecook | 6 October 2008 - 4:12pm

Nietzer Ebb

is a name that is a deterrent. Elbow also got off to a bad start chez moi and I can't adjust my initial feelings for them. (Also, if you're going to put 'bloke with beard' on the cover - why chose a picture when he's looking like his dog's just died? Surely a smiling snap would garner more sales?)
Erm...back to names, The Raspberries is a terrible name but I love the band.

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Mr Fade | 6 October 2008 - 4:56pm

Talking of dead dogs

The name Dogs Die In Hot Cars kind of put me off. As for Garvey's pic, is it me or is he slightly out of focus and a tad flourescent of forehead?

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Graham Johns | 6 October 2008 - 9:02pm

Looks

in focus to me. In fact I'm counting all the hairs on his chinny chin chin.

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Beany | 6 October 2008 - 9:27pm

It's got to the stage I am avoiding bands...

...because of the name. Dogs Die In Hot Cars, good mention johnsey, awful name. Can I also chuck in;
- The Ting Tings
- Does It Offend You, Yeah?
- Joe Lean and the Jing Jang Jong
- Selfish C%nt
- Honestly Mr Ganglesprocket, you won't think we're very good at all.

Surely a band name should make you kind of curious at least? Listening to any of this would take me about 10 minutes on myspace but I've never done it. Why? Cos I don't care, the names are too awful. Admittedly I may have made up one of them.

I'm sure you will all agree though, that a grown adult who calls himself ganglesprocket is well qualified to pass judgement on crappy band names.

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ganglesprocket | 9 October 2008 - 3:01pm

Toad The Wet Sprocket

They really put some thought into making that name as off-putting as possible, didn't they? Toad: an warty amphibious creature. Wet: damp, fetid, quite possibly cold. Sprocket: some kind of mechanical component; fiddly, technical and almost certainly greasy.

If they were called Turd The Putrefying Stinkhorn that would almost be an improvement.

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Hosskins | 9 October 2008 - 11:27pm

TTWS

The name was originated by Eric Idle in a parody of The Old Grey Whistle Test from his series Rutland Weekend Television. I can't find that clip so here's another.

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Graham Johns | 10 October 2008 - 12:10am

I refused to listen to that squiggle band in the 1980s

Way before Prince's symbol phase, there was a band that simply had a squiggly line as their name. They released a song called "Doot Doot". That was enough for me to give them a wide berth.

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Austin | 10 October 2008 - 1:35am

Squiggle. Also known as Freur

Eventually became Underworld, authors of the sparklingly fabulous Born Slippy

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Stan Halen | 10 October 2008 - 2:45am

Really?

I never knew that. Was there a greyhound called Doot Doot?

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Austin | 10 October 2008 - 3:35am

I usually cross the road to

I usually cross the road to avoid any band with a name that substitutes a z for an s.

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Kev Kavanagh | 10 October 2008 - 11:15am

In my record label days I

In my record label days I actually signed a local band called Electric Blue Peggy Sue And The Revolutionions From Mars. After some pretty succesful releases they were picked up by a major label for two more albums. Their original drummer used to play in a band called Kansanturvamusiikkikomissio, for obvious reasons more than often regarded as KTMK.

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Miettinen | 11 October 2008 - 11:39am
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