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What was the name of that drink we used to drink?

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I have just received an email from Paul Du Noyer suggesting we go for a "light and bitter". He is, of course, being funny. Nevertheless, this set me thinking about all those drinks we used to drink that have either been withdrawn from the market or have been moved to the very bottom shelf of the pub.

I fancy that everybody out there can remember just one. Mine is Jubilee Stout. Look, I'm not making it up.

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Breast milk.

Can't show you the label tho.

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ChaosandMorphine | 19 January 2009 - 11:43am

Light and bitter

My friends and I still drink this quite often. It's not unusual for someone who is out of step with the round to ask for a bottle of Old Bob to top up their pint.

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Gatz | 19 January 2009 - 11:50am

I remember that

How about:
Pernot and water?
Scotch and American Dry Ginger
Babycham
Pony (Panty Remover)
Scrumpy
Watneys Red Barrel

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Silverdog | 20 January 2009 - 2:38am

Do they still make:

Whitbread (I think) Forest Brown, in bottles. My first illicit pub going tipple of choice, ahead of moving on to a year of Carling Black label. Thank Christ I lived where I did and could be supping Harveys Sussex Bitter by the time I became of age. Virtually unsourceable outside Sussex, more is the pity.

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Retropath2 | 19 January 2009 - 11:51am

Ah, Forest Brown…

Me and my mate had a big run on that while we were at Exeter University in the early 80s. I didn't twig until much later how low in alcohol it was (is?).

BTW I had a nice pint of Harveys in London's lovely Lamb & Flag pub only last Wednesday; and there's also a great Harvey's pub near Borough tube (sorry, can't recall name).

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David Rothon | 19 January 2009 - 12:20pm

If I'm not mistaken

That'll be the Market Porter. And the Harveys is indeed lovely.

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Stan Halen | 20 January 2009 - 3:12am

Royal Oak

...Tabard St, their only pub in London...don't all go at once it's not massive....used to be my local before I moved out to the 'burbs *sniff*

http://www.harveys.org.uk/theroyaloaklondon.php

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Richie B | 20 January 2009 - 12:52pm

The bar in Mardon Hall

used to be the best place for a proper pint on campus - and the guzzle du jour in my day was called 'IBD' (that's Instant Brain Damage, of course) made with a half of Royal Oak and a bottle of Imperial Russian Stout.

Larvely.
Hic.
(falls over)

Was the bar (which was set up each opening night on trestle tables in a common room) still there in the 80s?

Is it still forshortening academic careers to this day perhaps, or have the Health & Safety Nazis put paid to it?

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Vulpes Vulpes | 20 January 2009 - 1:20pm

Imperial Russian Stout...

...is still available, but not on public display.You have to tap your nose and request it from under the counter. As I can't make Manchester or Cambridge Winter Ale Fests this weekend I might have to pop in...perhaps there will be some Xmas Ale (8.1%) still available....*drool*

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Richie B | 20 January 2009 - 1:39pm

Ah - Harvey's

I know I'm home when I can see the South Downs and taste Sussex Best. Ever tried their Old Ale?

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Bigsby | 19 January 2009 - 5:29pm

Certainly

I spent 1957 - 75 living in Lewes. The Lewes Arms, built into the castle walls was my nearest to a local, when John Owen was the landlord and the folk club was upstairs and the W.g. gracefully cricket team of assorted longahirs supped downstairs. Magical days.

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Retropath2 | 19 January 2009 - 5:46pm

Merrydown

No nights on this Devil's brew Retro ?. Once worked security for Brighton festival and got paid in cases of Merrydown

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paul beard | 19 January 2009 - 9:01pm

Don't get me started!

Merryfuckingdown! Nothing merry about trying to keep that down you. Ciders and fruit wines, all so sweet and potent that one session puking that up and never again. Nearly as bad as the Moniack (spelling? Should, IMHO be Maniac)Castle fruit wines from Scotland. Those colours, that thumping head, o the horror, the horror!
Wnt to school with one Andrew Howie, son of the owner/MD of Merrydown. He got expelled, I recall. Probably a fatcat captain of industry by now.

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Retropath2 | 20 January 2009 - 2:11pm

Rab!

pass th' Buckfast! Shall ah tell ye a dorty story? More Buckfast!

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Vulpes Vulpes | 20 January 2009 - 2:38pm

The only beer brewed for the tin.

Not sure if this still around so long since I've had any I bet it was rotten.
You can still get youngs(?) light ale mind.

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Chris G | 19 January 2009 - 11:52am

A few spring to mind

A Party 7
Worthington E
Double Diamond
Long Life
A pint of mild
Cream label

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Martin Simmonds | 19 January 2009 - 11:55am

Party 7...

....many moons ago I took over a wines and spirits section of a well known supermarket in the days before everything had to have date codes. There was some out of date and discontinued Party 7's or similar with a stamped date. We spent some time rubbing the dates off and put on sale. Sold out but had people coming back for more as the stuff was like Rocket fuel!!!!

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Tony Donaghey | 19 January 2009 - 6:49pm

Long Life

Yeah I remember in the big tins cos I'm a quick starter... Now I drink Bavaria from Holland cos it too is in big cans for CHEAP!

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Silverdog | 20 May 2009 - 1:45am

Banks's Mild

Not sure whether this is still available or not. When I lived in the Aberystwyth area (mid '70s to mid '80s) it was the only safe tipple in the Banks's pubs in town. As for their bitter, the saying was "If you think the bottom's dropping out of your world, drink Banks's Bitter and feel the world drop out of your bottom." Bass Mild was popular amongst older drinkers in Swansea at that time. I bet that's gone now.

Worthington White Shield was good for getting quickly ratted, as was a local brew from around here (Watford) which I'm sure is no more - Colne Spring by Benskins. Both of these would normally be drunk half-and-half with bitter.

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Mike_H | 31 October 2009 - 9:41pm

ONE EACH, PLEASE!

I think everyone's got one.

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David Hepworth | 19 January 2009 - 12:03pm

Showing my age

Hooch

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Chimney Singing... | 19 January 2009 - 12:06pm

Hooch

Are you saying that's gone?

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David Hepworth | 19 January 2009 - 12:09pm

Oh yes

Gone without trace. I'd imagine that it was superceded by Smirnoff Ice and wkd.

To be fair the novelty wore off pretty quickly for us lot

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Chimney Singing... | 19 January 2009 - 12:10pm

Wasn't there one called

'Mog' as well? It may have been alcoholic cream soda from what I remember

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Joe R | 19 January 2009 - 12:27pm

I remember

Decoda Soda

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Chimney Singing... | 19 January 2009 - 12:33pm

Ah the heady days of

snakebite and black

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Ricardo Invitado | 19 January 2009 - 12:08pm

We need the recipe

What's the black?

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David Hepworth | 19 January 2009 - 12:09pm

It's

currant. Beloved of university hockey teams c.1987. Very sticky and not much fun to clean up after.

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Ricardo Invitado | 19 January 2009 - 12:11pm

I graduated from university 6 months ago

I can tell you it's beloved of university hockey (but mainly rugby) teams c.2008 as well. Anyone calling it "snakey-b" deserves a good slap in my opinion

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Joe R | 19 January 2009 - 12:25pm

snakey b

omg they don't call it that nowadays do they ? ... think I am showing my age here .

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aquamarina | 12 July 2009 - 6:43pm

If spilt before drinking....

or "spilt" after drinking?

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Retropath2 | 19 January 2009 - 12:33pm

Sadly both...

MO seemed to be pour said liquid over your campadre's head then "drink until you chuck".

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Ricardo Invitado | 19 January 2009 - 12:48pm

Stop it

You're making me all misty-eyed!

I used to be a barman and you'd get extra kudos if you could draw a big purple 'S' in the head of the drink with the cordial.

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Joe R | 19 January 2009 - 12:51pm

That's a lot easier

than a four leafed shamrock in the head of a Guinness.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 20 January 2009 - 2:39pm

FOUR...

...leafed shamrock!!!!

Sacrilege!

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Nicodemus | 20 January 2009 - 2:57pm

Up in Scotland that was called...

a diesel!!

Never tried one, but I always imagined the name described the taste.

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theblindstagger | 20 January 2009 - 4:49am

Drank buckets of the stuff

Drank buckets of the stuff at college. You'd wake up with the the snakebite n black moustache that stayed for days. Not a good look and a bit of a giveaway to teachers when you turned up late.

You can't buy snakebite in pubs now.

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teapot | 15 February 2009 - 7:29pm

snakebite ...

oooooh now that is a blast from the past ...mmmm they were nice I think we all got trollied on those in our youth

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aquamarina | 12 July 2009 - 6:41pm

Skol lager

that made Fosters taste nice.

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Retro Man | 19 January 2009 - 12:26pm

Top Score

Hull Brewery's finest - made Skol seem like the height of sophistication.

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Mikhail | 20 January 2009 - 12:04am

Was a Hull Brewery Mild man myself

at I believe 27p per pint when I started drinking.
Did Hopfenperle replace Top Score?

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Pinmonkey | 31 October 2009 - 7:39pm

Blimey, Mr P

Have you been hibernating? :-)

And yes, Hopfen...was the sophisticated move into true lager connoisseurship by the estimable Hull Brewery, after the more 'prosaic' charm of TS.

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Mikhail | 31 October 2009 - 7:57pm

Some blogs just deserve resurrecting don't they?

Twas a sad day when Mansfield Brewery invaded the area.

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Pinmonkey | 31 October 2009 - 8:08pm

Pint of Mild and a Rum’n’pep

Common order for old couples when I worked in a pub about 25 years ago was a pint of Mild for him and a rum’n’pep (peppermint cordial) for her. Don’t think you get Mild in pubs much these days. Certainly not down south

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Richard Lowe | 19 January 2009 - 12:27pm

Still plenty of mild in the Midlands...

It's a speciality of Banks's houses.

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stimpy | 19 January 2009 - 3:58pm

For the designated driver

How about Tab Clear?

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Joe R | 19 January 2009 - 12:28pm

This one's mine…

Cherry B.
Everyone of a certain age must have encountered this promotional flexi:
http://www.wfmu.org/365/2003/058.shtml

Apols if I've posted this before, but I do love the voices of the famous Cherry B twins.

Amazingly, you can still buy Cherry B if you know where to go. It's pretty grim - not a patch on Babycham.

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David Rothon | 19 January 2009 - 12:28pm

Oh, that flexi!

I do indeed remember it. Most be forty years ago at least.

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David Hepworth | 19 January 2009 - 1:04pm

About 1961, I think

We had one knocking around at home, which I eventually destroyed in a small fit of pre-teen ennui. Hugely regretted this years later - and since then I've found two more copies in junk shops/car booters.
I wonder what was the correct order or popularity. And if anyone ever won that Sunbeam Alpine sports car, etc.

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David Rothon | 19 January 2009 - 1:10pm

The Summer of Hooch

My friends and I still refer to the Summer of '96 as the Summer of Hooch. Oh it was a joy to be alive - I was 18, Brit Pop had made my Supergrass-esque mutton chops a potent aphrodisiac and Euro '96 was providing us all with our footy related kicks. Hooch was the fuel of this halcyon period - especially when mixed with Stella to make a 'power shandy'. These days I simply drink Hydes Mild. It's not the same.

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Jamie_Bowman | 19 January 2009 - 12:29pm

Ah Hooch, Gin and Hooch was

Ah Hooch, Gin and Hooch was a popular tipple around that time for me..

Or Two Dogs...a large Gin and Two Dogs was always a winner...

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Mat Riches | 19 January 2009 - 12:42pm

was two dogs the original that got

muscled out by hooch I seem to remember that as a drink two dogs wasn't bad every so often just a long lemon drink with some vodka in it.

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Chris G | 19 January 2009 - 1:02pm

Correct Chris

Muscled out of it. I ran a bar in 94/95 when 2 dogs hit the shelves. It was Australian in origin I believe.Sold well the suddenly disappeared due to the overwhelming popular Hooch." 2 dogs was nicer

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paul beard | 19 January 2009 - 2:45pm

"Glamour" models on beer cans...

Does anyone remember what beer it was that used to have the pictures of page three models on?

Just reminded me of the old peanut holders that used to hang up behind the bar in pubs - the more packets of peanuts bought the more that was revealed of the bikini clad Farrah Fawcett lookalike pictured beneath...

Good to see we are much more sophisticated these days - pass my copy of Nuts magazine!

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Retro Man | 19 January 2009 - 12:36pm

Tennants

That was Tennants lager - enjoy: http://www.cannyscot.com/

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Gatz | 19 January 2009 - 1:14pm

Well, the Tennent's Lager

Well, the Tennent's Lager cans of my 70s youth featured full tin-length shots of a selection of gels (one confusingly named "Stella" if I remember correctly), but mostly clothed in various blousy outfits.

Dreadful beer, but it fuelled many a school disco north of the border.

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McKinley60 | 19 January 2009 - 1:19pm

Nuts

The brand was Big D I believe.

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gerry d | 23 January 2009 - 8:58pm

Tennants lager!

Probably still does.

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Retropath2 | 19 January 2009 - 12:37pm

Kestrel Lager

Cheapest of the cheap lager from the 1980s. Slogan was "It Bites". It didn't.

It was Tennents lager that had the "lager lovelies" on their cans. They're collector's items now I believe (the cans, that is). Retro beat me to this I see - but I think I have the right spelling! cheers

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Stephen G | 19 January 2009 - 12:43pm

Kestrel Super

certainly bites. But not as hard as Amsterdam Maximator, the king of Superlagers.

Not quite in the same league as Knock-Out however, which was 10% I think (as was Force Ten) and the packaging for which depicted a pair of cartoon boxing gloves.

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Chimney Singing... | 19 January 2009 - 12:46pm

Slightly off topic, but

On Friday I "invented" the Lilibu.

A lovely mixture of Lilt and Malibu...Yum.

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Mat Riches | 19 January 2009 - 12:42pm

On that subject...

...me and a couple fo mates invented a drink once called the "Peter Clohessy", after the Irish rugby player who had stamped rather nastily on a Frenchman's head that very afternoon (February 1996, I believe it was). The drink was a bottle of Diamond White Cider(8%ABV) poured, with a shot of Vat 19 (Golden Rum), topped off with a dash of blackcurrant. We only christened it the "Peter Clohessy" the next day, as we all woke up feeling like someone had stamped repeatedly on our heads.

Good days......

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Iain McKinney | 19 January 2009 - 1:01pm

Skona Lager

The cheapest lager in Britain. Used to work in Sainsburys and I recall it being £1.29 for four cans. It was weak (and tasted weak). We used to sell mountains of it at Christmas.

It was what you took to parties, put on the table and cracked on with someone else's Stella.

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Lee Rimmer | 19 January 2009 - 12:46pm

Colt 45.

Yeuch.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 19 January 2009 - 12:56pm

the perfect accompaniment

to a cowboy dinner, boom boom. pfft pfft.

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Ricardo Invitado | 19 January 2009 - 12:58pm

Colt 45

"Every Tom, Jack or Walt
Who likes the taste of malt
Will love the malt in a Colt 45"

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stimpy | 19 January 2009 - 4:00pm

Harp Lager

Is that still around? 'Harp. Stay Sharp' That was your catchphrase.

We drank it in cans when I was a sixth-former. One on memorable occasion headbanging to Freebird. Anyway I recall thinking 'lager is sh*t, isn't it?' even then.

As was/is Pernod and Blackcurrant. Utter poison. And yet we swilled it down like the buffoons we were.

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Andy Barrons | 19 January 2009 - 12:59pm

In Ireland..

it's certainly still brewed and available although a lot of its former market share has now gone to Heineken et al.

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Declan | 31 October 2009 - 8:27pm

Breaker

In the mid eighties there was a strike at the major breweries with the consequence that pubs didnt have any draught beer for a couple of weeks. I recall drinking 5 cans of Breaker and hardly being able to stand up let alone function.It was somewhat bizarre.

Whatever happened to Barley wine - as an underage teenager that was the drink we got from the Off licence that would get us drunk the quickest. A couple of bottles of Mackeson and a bottle of Barley wine nearly always did the trick.

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Steve Turner | 19 January 2009 - 1:05pm

Breaker!

Thankyou!
I've been trying for hours to remember that!
Mid-eighties in the Bodega! Happy days.

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ChaosandMorphine | 19 January 2009 - 1:25pm

Whitbread Trophy Bitter

"Whitbread Big Head, Trophy bitter, The pint that thinks it's a quart". What was that supposed to mean?
In the TV adverts the barmaid used to place this huge glass on the bar that looked more like it held 5 gallons.

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Carl Parker | 19 January 2009 - 1:07pm

Great use of the word 'quart', though…

… and possibly the last time it ever appeared in a British ad.

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David Rothon | 19 January 2009 - 1:13pm

Interesting (oh all right not very interesting) fact

The little man in specs in the ad was called Danny Schiller and he later appeared as the transvestite maid in the film "Personal Services". I think he dies a couple of years ago.

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Tim McGuire | 23 January 2009 - 10:27am

I know courage is still around

This is from my blog beer promotional records, I've also have Camra dixyland jazz one at home that's truly dreadful .
"It's a pity that Courage is so ropey nowadays!"

"Here comes Courage" Artist Unknown


I quite like this tune it's got some good sub shadows twanging guitar
"the Courage Twist" Unknown Artist


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Chris G | 19 January 2009 - 1:26pm

Take Courage

Mark Eitzel does a song on his "Songs of Love Live" album called "Take Courage". It's based around the sign for the beer that he used to see every morning when he went to school on the bus. In his sleevenotes he says "Now I'm older, I find the beer almost undrinkable".
He should know.

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Grant | 19 January 2009 - 10:51pm

Black & Tan!

...half Sweetheart Stout and half McEwan's Export.
A 70s favourite of the gimmer and beginner alike and sweetly akin to sucking on a tin of condensed milk.
Quite fancy one now...

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McKinley60 | 19 January 2009 - 1:28pm

My dad once asked for one of

My dad once asked for one of these in a pub in Belfast... the kind of pub where that put his health in danger...

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ratbiter | 20 January 2009 - 3:09am

Snowballs

Always a snowball on Christmas eve, from when I was about 9 I think. Very, very posh drink.

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Mr Drayton | 19 January 2009 - 1:29pm

Snowball…

… we tried in vain to obtain a round of these this New Year's Eve in Willington, Derbyshire - the sort of place where you'd imagine they'd never gone out of fashion. But to no avail. (We were luckier a couple of years back in Wells-Next-the-Sea.

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David Rothon | 19 January 2009 - 1:56pm

didn't they have

any advocat or lemonade?

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Chris G | 19 January 2009 - 1:58pm

Nope, no advocat…

… can you believe it?
BTW is there any way to make a snowball OTHER than advocat and lemonade? (And a cherry…)

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David Rothon | 19 January 2009 - 2:02pm

thought you meant the ready made

version

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Chris G | 19 January 2009 - 2:11pm

don't forget...

...a little splash of lime cordial - now that's posh

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Mr Drayton | 20 January 2009 - 1:48pm

A real snowball

Advocaat, vodka (equal measures) dash lime cordial, dash orange squash, lemonade over crushed ice.

Tastes like eggy sick.

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Neil Dyson | 21 January 2009 - 4:40pm

Back in the day ...

... the early 80's when I worked behind the bar, I used to loathe snowballs. It seemed every 'other 'alf wanted one when punters were queueing 7 deep (remember the days when pubs were busy!) They were too time consuming to concoct.

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Steerpike | 19 January 2009 - 9:00pm

I know we're only allowed one each and that…

… but did no one here ever 'seek out' the lager of Lamot? The TV ad seemed to be aimed squarely at 15-year-old metal heads, so there must be a few…


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David Rothon | 19 January 2009 - 1:39pm

Light and Bitter....

The drink of Kings. Still served and purchased by myself around the hostelries of London.

You cannot ask for this drink any further north than Harrow, or any further west than Hounslow. The bar staff will look at you funny and/or try to pour the light ale in first, clearly showing a lack of respect/knowledge of the true London drinking ettiquette.

Sadly hard to get hold of in music venues or anywhere that employs southern hemisphere bar staff...

Anyone for a can of Ace with an Advocaat chaser? Failing that, mine's a Bailey's and Cherryade

And reading that back, it sounds very Al Murray.

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John Waite | 19 January 2009 - 1:45pm

Beer at home means...

Yes Davenports. Growing up in Birmingham this was a favourite. I remember not remembering much about a tour of the brewery in the early '80s. And who could forget their classic bitter advert


If I was feeling flush it would be some Top Brew Delux, often though a pint of mixed (half bitter half mild)

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Simondrsmith | 19 January 2009 - 2:07pm

Beat me to it.

But were you an Ansells Bitter man ?. The pint for real men.
In the same vein as Davenports you could get Alpine pop. This was also delivered to your door from a lorry From Wolverhampton that came to our estate every wednesday.
Been out the country for a long time,can you still get.......?
Red Rock Cider
Sol (the original lime in the bottle beer)
White Shield (Which you had to be seriously careful when pouring it)
Mackerson
Shandy Bass
Marston's Low C (an early Atkins Diet fave )

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paul beard | 19 January 2009 - 2:57pm

The Alpine Van

Thank you for mentioning that. We had that here in the North East. We lived on a cul-de-sac with a tight turning circle and a highlight of the week was watching the Alpine Van trying to turn around and running a book on whose car or wall was going to get totaled this week.

On the booze front Ace Lager was the cheap lager I remember best. 4 cans for £1.20. I kid you not. Awful, tasteless, virtually alcohol free but, you know, really cheap.

Before I discovered Double Maxim. Mmmmm.

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Mike Todd | 19 January 2009 - 3:33pm

You're Welcome Mike

Ace lager famous for 8 Ace from VIZ of course

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paul beard | 19 January 2009 - 4:07pm

My lowest point

Summer 1986. World Cup. Unemployed, almost broke. My housemate goes out to watch the England - Argentina Quarter Final; I'm reduced to watching at home, with 4 cans of Ace to 'enjoy'. Sixty-odd minutes in, had to go to the boys' room...thereby missing the greatest ever World Cup goal. Oh, life was so sweet..

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Mikhail | 20 January 2009 - 12:12am

Sunday afternoon, late 60s, Star Soccer advert break...

"Beer at home means Davenports
That's the beer, lots of cheer.
The finest malt with hops and yeast
Turns a snack into a feast
Straight from brewery to your home
Why collect, we'll deliver
So sson you'll know why folks all say
Beer at home means Dav-en-ports
Cheers!"

...complete with little bouncy ball on the words so you could sing along to the advert

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stimpy | 19 January 2009 - 4:09pm

The second line

Was going to post this song but couldn't remember the"that's the beer "bit. At the end there was some old duffer with a bottle of light ale or something who did the cheers bit. Nice one stimpy

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paul beard | 19 January 2009 - 9:06pm

That's the one!!

He somewhat unenthusiasically held the glass up to the screen and said his 'cheers'

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stimpy | 19 January 2009 - 9:11pm

AND...

if you can find a copy of the TV advert, there's a years supply of Davvies - doubtless delivered to your door.

Apparently, Davenports are relaunching the beer at home service and want to re-run the old ad,

"However, despite trawling through archives and searching high and low, the company cannot find a copy of the Beer At Home Means Davenports television advert.

And Mr Norton has promised: "I will give a year’s supply of beer to anyone who can find me a video of the advert so we can run it on television in the summer."

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stimpy | 19 January 2009 - 9:18pm

Hofmeister - I have never been tempted to..

"Follow the Bear" again

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Charlie Gordon | 19 January 2009 - 2:16pm

Just check the vid at about 0.41

Phil Davis must be so proud to have this as part of his oeuvre. Cheesy grin or what?

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illuminatus | 30 January 2009 - 11:36am

Heavens above

He has changed.
I sometimes see him in our local paper shop. Dare I remind him of this?

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Carl Parker | 30 January 2009 - 11:42pm

Is

Castlemaine xxxx still out there? Remember when that first came out it seemed like the height of sophistication, drinking a Australian beer, how cosmipolitan.What a let down to find it was brewed in the UK

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Mint | 19 January 2009 - 2:19pm

A purple nasty

Which was a red stripe Crucial brew mixed with K cider with a pernod & black on top was the no1 bevvy with the bedford goth/crustie locals when i last worked in pubs in the uk. Major damage would follow very soon.

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Darthfarter | 19 January 2009 - 2:49pm

Nathanial Catchpole

A beer designed to kill or at least seriously maim. I drunk two bottles on a night out in 1990 and was, I'm embarresed to admit, wasted. However, I'd never heard of it before (my brother was barman and I asked him to serve me 'Something interesting) and I've not come across it since. Anyone else tried it?

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matthew | 19 January 2009 - 2:53pm

Hosepipe

A Christmas tipple drank by and named after the popular rock combo, Dick and the Fireman, a loose collective of all the session men of the early 70s, wherein Dick was the late Mike Patto, also of the eponymous group. 1/2 of guinness, a barley wine and a dble brandy. One was enough, before shifting back to the relative calm of a Warmer Shandy: 1/2 Youngs Winter Warmer, topped up with a bottle of Ramrod.
Here is a reprint of the article that so enthused me as a callow lad:

"New Musical Express, August 7, 1976
"A large brandy, a barley wine and half a Guinness," explains Tench for the benefit of the uninitiated. A more careful gaze around the table reveals that, yes, they’re all drinking the same seething concoction and daftly smiling contentedly.

Naturally a fireman should never be without his hosepipe

DICK & THE FIREMEN '76 incarnation:Mel Collins, Neil Hubbard, Mike Patto, Alan Spenner, Carol Grimes, Bob Tench, Henry McCulloch, Tim Hinkley, Boz Burrell, Simon Kirke, John Halsey."

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Retropath2 | 19 January 2009 - 3:03pm

Two I remember fondly...


a) Now only available in bottles (and bearing my surname but no relation, sadly): Macardles Ale

and

b) I remember drinking Furstenberg beer at college in the mid-late '80's but never see it now.

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Nicodemus | 19 January 2009 - 3:14pm

What the hell happened to....

Caffreys. It was everywhere in 1995 and heralded "as cold as lager, its texture would be as smooth as stout, while its taste was that of an ale.". I believe I'm right in saying it was a leading light of the smoothflow revolution which brought us the widget. Horrible stuff.

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Jamie_Bowman | 19 January 2009 - 3:15pm

That stuff laid waste to

That stuff laid waste to many an afternoon or day...As well as Carling Extra Cold....that must have been about 1995 as well...

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Mat Riches | 19 January 2009 - 3:28pm

Caffreys

It can't have gone away. I used to ask for that by name. I suppose if it's not there you don't.

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David Hepworth | 19 January 2009 - 3:35pm

Are you sure…

… you want to admit to that?

Actually, the invocation of Caffrey's has reminded me of Beamish. Is that still around anywhere? I used to like a pint of that, even though I suspected it was regarded by cogniscenti (sp?) as Guinness for wimps.

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David Rothon | 19 January 2009 - 3:51pm

That's what I liked about it

It was weak.

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David Hepworth | 19 January 2009 - 3:54pm

also the smooth flow nitrogen stuff in caffery's

gave you the "bends" (ie a rotten head the next day) if you had 4-5 pints, outside the normal effect of alcohol for producing a thick head that is!

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Chris G | 19 January 2009 - 3:59pm

I agree with all of this

I loved Caffrey's but it caused many many fuck ups at work the day after

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Chimney Singing... | 19 January 2009 - 4:35pm

Beamish is still around...

.. brewed down in Co. Cork.

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Nicodemus | 19 January 2009 - 4:23pm

but it'll soon be moving from its original site

the company was sold to Heineken, who already own Murphys (also brewed in Cork). Naturally, both will be brewed in the same facility ASAP. 120 people were told their services were no longer required only last month.

As for other drinks - I recall Caffreys being 'weakened' a few years after it hit the market. It *was* a most pallatable of drinks, but Jesus, the hangovers were shocking, and I'm relieved to find i'm not alone in thinking this. I've not seen it for an age in any boozer in Ireland, but Wikipedia says that it's still available in the UK. Can anybody confirm a sighting?

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ivan | 19 January 2009 - 5:21pm

Anybody tasted that Guinness Red

Advertised briefly last year, smacking suspiciously of a nasty drink produced by another irish brewer*. can't these fellas get it right? In Ireland black drinks good, brown drinks (except whiskey) bad. Smoothflow is accurate only in the ease with which its nasty cold soupy texture wishes the reverse journey to that initially taken.
* That's it, Beamish red. Hideous, yet Beamish stout is the smoothest of the 3 biggest Irish stouts.

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Retropath2 | 19 January 2009 - 4:26pm

This would suggest....

http://www.caffreys.com/index.asp

...that Caffreys is not exactly flourishing.

Just found out that during Euro 1996 Hooper's Hooch was selling 2.5 million bottles a week!

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Jamie_Bowman | 19 January 2009 - 3:48pm

What, you mean…

… you don't believe in the 'important and exciting developments' afoot?

(BTW I'm worried about the number of posts I've contributed to this thread. I haven't got a problem or anything, honest.)

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David Rothon | 19 January 2009 - 3:54pm

National Health Service

Back when we had a proper National Health Service, my Dad used to get this. On prescription!

Hence, my first pre-teen tipple.

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zeitgeist | 19 January 2009 - 3:51pm

a macky shandy was the first

grown up drink i ever had, it was at a friends hosue on boxing day (iwas 12), his gran poured us one and then showed how to cheat at rummy! It's proper label too

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Chris G | 19 January 2009 - 4:02pm

Ooo...

reminds me of a late 60's growing up tipple. A Macky Vimto - bottle of Mackeson with some Vimto cordial dumped in.

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stimpy | 19 January 2009 - 4:05pm

Black and Tan - a Beer Cocktail

I remember being asked for this when working as a barman in the 70's - info below taken from

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A882155

It might well be called a Doberman in a jar; 'Black and Tan' is the name given to an alcoholic drink comprising of a 'mixture' of ale and stout, or sometimes lager and stout.

The name itself is derived from a political reference to the black and khaki military uniforms worn by the special auxiliary force - 'The Black and Tans' - who were brought in to Ireland fight the Irish nationalists in 1920.

Normal practice for making a Black and Tan is to first pull half a pint of ale into a pint glass, and then, using a spoon placed under the tap, to roll the stout oh-so-gently on to the top of the ale layer.

Done properly, the procedure produces a Black and Tan; black stout on the top and tan ale, or lager, underneath. Brownian Motion aside, the two beers won't mix in the glass until they are disturbed, for example, by drinking.

A classic Black and Tan consists of a foundation of Bass Pale Ale topped by thick black Guinness, the combination of English and Irish beers somehow cementing the origin of the name.

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longtonian | 19 January 2009 - 4:33pm

Orangeyboom?

Remember the advert?

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Martin Simmonds | 19 January 2009 - 4:44pm

Remember the name?

It's called Oranjeboom - although your name sounds like a great soft drink, maybe with the flavour of Jaffa Cakes! :-)

It's still made in the Netherlands

http://www.oranjeboom.nl/B0D092EBB780470EB46466CA5F1193A3.htm#251

Like they say "plant eens 'n boompje"

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stimpy | 19 January 2009 - 4:50pm

yes... to the tune of Eye Level...

"so get tulips around a pint today...
Oranjeboom, Oranjeboom, it's a lager not a tune..etc"

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Five-Centres | 19 January 2009 - 5:51pm

Mackeson in hospitals

Was it an urban myth that patients used to get a bottle of Mackeson every day in hospital? Well, not all of them obviously but I'm sure I remember my gran telling me this.

Regarding mixes, theres the mother-in-law (old and bitter) and our Dorset version of black velvet, Guinness and cider, preferably scrumpy.

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Steve285 | 19 January 2009 - 4:47pm

Mackeson contained lots of iron...

...so it's 'possible', in the same way the pregnant women used to be told to drink a bottle of Guinness every day

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stimpy | 19 January 2009 - 4:51pm

See earlier post

My Dad used to get it on prescription back in the late seventies.

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zeitgeist | 20 January 2009 - 10:34am

Guinness after giving blood

Well I don't know if that's an urban legend, but I can confirm from personal experience that the Irish Blood Transfusion Board used to offer a glass of Guinness as an option instead of tea after giving blood. I can't give blood anymore, but they were doing this right up until 2001. I don't know if they still do however. They also offered some other kinds of beers that were part of the Guinness group!

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xmorpheus | 23 January 2009 - 9:28am

Sounds more like a sponsorship deal...

...than for medical reasons!

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stimpy | 23 January 2009 - 9:38am

Probably.....

but hey - free beer! :)

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xmorpheus | 23 January 2009 - 9:41am

If they gave a pint per pint...

...in a good evening's blood doning, you could replace all your blood with Guinness!

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stimpy | 23 January 2009 - 9:52am

Nah :(

Half a pint was the most they'd give you and a pint is the most they'd take.

They had it sussed :(

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xmorpheus | 23 January 2009 - 10:47am

oh that's absolutely true...

I started to give blood in 1993 as a student. We were thrilled that you got a bottle of beer if you wished after the donation. The choice was either a bottle of Heineken or a bottle of Guinness; I should point out that the Guinness was the old-skool variety (referred by us, rather uncharitably, as 'aul-lad Guinness' in that it was the kind of stuff that gentlemen of a certain age would order in pubs of a certain type, insisting that it be served at room temperature)

I moved to the UK and worked there from '99 to '03 and found the generosity of your own Blood Transfusion Services to be considerably less hospitable, and was disgusted, upon my return to the old sod, to find that they'd ditched the booze also.

I might also add that because it'd been four years since I'd previously given blood in Ireland I was subjected to one of their questionnaires - you know the kind "have you had sex for money with a man who works part time in a tatoo parlour in Central Africa?"

I remember looking at the nurse asking the questions and saying "no"
"should i have?"

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ivan | 23 January 2009 - 10:41am

didn't they ask you about burgers?

I can't give blood anymore because I lived for five years cumulatively in the UK between 19something and 19something else. Apparently all us Birdseye beefburger kids might have mad cow disease so they won't take our blood anymore. The fact that exactly the same food was available and eaten here is apparently irrelevant!

My favourite bit was when they sent out the letter. It said that they wouldn't be able to take the blood after the end of April - so if I was going to be in the exclusion section, would I please get in and give them a pint before the end of April. Apparently my blood would only be bad AFTER that, but they were happy to take it beforehand............

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xmorpheus | 23 January 2009 - 10:51am

Sorry to poop the party.......

yes, guinness and mackeson were widely commended and even provided.But, from a pregnancy forum, her eis the current advice: "Sadly (if you enjoy stout or Guinness) this is a genuine old wives' tale! The iron content of stout is negligible, compared with even red wine - 0.05mg of iron in 100mls of stout, compared with 0.9mg in 100mls of red wine. If it is iron that you want or need, then a bowl of Bran Flakes (4.3mg of iron) or a couple of slices of beef (2.1mg) would serve you much better. Of the two foods, the beef is arguably the best, since iron of animal origin is better absorbed that other iron. As you probably know, the maximum recommended intake of alcohol during pregnancy is 1-2 units, once or twice a week. Please note that this is a maximum. Many women feel more comfortable drinking less alcohol, or none at all. A half-pint of normal strength beer or lager counts as one unit. However, bottled Guinness, in particular, tends to be stronger stuff than draught (check the '% alc vol' on the bottle), so just a quarter-pint (about 125mls) is probably equivalent to a unit of alcohol. You may like to measure out 125mls of water into a glass at home, so that you have some idea what this amount of liquid looks like when you get to the pub. In conclusion - yes, enjoy the occasional drink of Guinness - but think small glass and lady-like sips rather than a bottle!"
Cigarette manufactures used to advertise in the British Medical Journal. Times and mores change.....

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Retropath2 | 19 January 2009 - 5:06pm

Ahhh... but this were 55 years ago

when my old mum was pregnant :-)

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stimpy | 19 January 2009 - 5:28pm

Moonshine

I don't think you'd get away with calling a drink this today but I drank gallons of this stuff in the '80s. This may also explain my love of the Gosdin Brothers.


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Jamie_Bowman | 19 January 2009 - 5:12pm

Chester's Mild...

...into which the Boddies and Castle Eden slops were returned for "recycling" in the pub where I worked...

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Richie B | 19 January 2009 - 5:14pm

Slalom D

Anyone who frequented the Broken Doll in Newcastle should remember this very ,very strong lager.
It got you there!

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Hot Cider | 19 January 2009 - 5:23pm

Memories

I wish I had them. We assumed the D stood for Death. Brain Death. 4 pints of Slalom D, the Riverside, and phone in sick in the morning. Happy daze.

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paulwright | 23 January 2009 - 10:18am

I worked for a couple of years in a hotel.....

.....at the end of the 70's/beginning of the 80's.

The bars in the hotel were tied to Bellhaven Brewery. The choices of draught beer were -
Bellhaven Heavy
Bellhaven Light
Seahorse Lager
Bellhaven Dark

They were all disgusting(even after lots of practising)except for the *Dark* which was like a stout. It didn't sell well though and was discontinued after a short while.

I don't think any of them exist anymore though I do see Bellhaven 80 shilling now and again.

I'm going for a game of snooker with my mate tonight and I'll have a few pints of Guinness. One day I'll get to Dublin and find out what the Liffey Water should really taste like.

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bigsteviecook | 19 January 2009 - 5:19pm

Bellhaven

The brewery was briefly owned by Robert Maxwell I think.
They deserved each other!

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Gordon Kerr | 20 January 2009 - 9:06am

Biarritz

Biarritz
Cool, long, deceptively strong
Biarritz - the unusual

Never drank it myself, mind.

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Five-Centres | 19 January 2009 - 5:29pm

Top Deck shandy anyone?

The drink you could buy as an 10 year old and feel like you were a teenager.

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Bigsby | 19 January 2009 - 5:31pm

Oh yes

Made many a school trip more interesting. Pretending to feel the effects.

They also made one with lime in so you could feel like an Essex boy

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Chimney Singing... | 19 January 2009 - 5:32pm

Essex Boys hadn't been invented then, surely?

It was all fields round there.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 20 January 2009 - 1:32pm

Well I was a boy then, in Essex

...but I can't claim to have invented the genre.

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Bigsby | 20 January 2009 - 5:30pm
Bigsby | 19 January 2009 - 5:42pm

Alpine pop

Worked in their factory in Chelmsley Wood,Birmingham after I left school. My job was loading the crates off the conveyor belt onto the trucks. The crates were about the equivalent in weight to my then slim frame. It was bloody hard work and my thighs were bruised from giving the crates a lift onto the trucks. Lunchtime consisted of ducking out of the way of full pop bottles lobbed in your direction for a 'laugh'. I lasted one and a half days. Hardest I have ever worked in my life.

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Steve Turner | 19 January 2009 - 6:16pm

Stein Lager

No, not the Aussie variety. This was brewed by Daniel Thwaites in the '80s where I worked for 2 years. Always sold cheap in Asda but never caught on. They experimented on the staff with blind tastings against many popular lagers and it always came out well (hic). Still nobody drank it and it has gone to brewers heaven.

Somebody mention barley wine. I'm sure there will be some on sale this weekend at the National Winter Ales Festival in Manchester. There is certainly porter. I will research the ales on behalf of the massive. Think I might start with the Brooklyn Chocolate Stout from the USA at 8.5% ABV. Scheeerss!

http://www.alefestival.org.uk/winterales/

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Beany | 19 January 2009 - 7:17pm
David Hepworth | 19 January 2009 - 9:43pm

A strange ad

It reawakened memories when I saw it in a documentary on Bobby Moore a year or two back.
Who actually paid for it? Was there a National Association of Licensed Victuallers or did the brewers get together?
I'm afraid Wayne would only be interested in a "look in at your local casino" ad.

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Carl Parker | 19 January 2009 - 10:23pm

Until the mid 60s...

...many of the national brewers had an informal agreement not to competitively advertise; rather they paid money into a pool and funded generic "Drink beer, it's really great honest" adverts.

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stimpy | 19 January 2009 - 10:29pm

Carlsberg Hof

The original Carlsberg Export brewed in Copenhagen, hence the repicla Little Mermaid atop the pump. It was very rare round my neck of the Welsh woods but I remember it being rather potent. And did anyone ever try Underberg, 'The One-Shot Drink'? It was sold as a hangover cure, despite being 86% proof, and came in tiny bottles stored in a bandolier draped behind the bar. It was a staple of many a mid-70s pub, almost as much so as the nuts (KP?) that came mounted on a display card featuring a semi-clad model; the more nuts that were bought, the more of the model you got to see. The past is indeed another country.

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Graham Johns | 20 January 2009 - 12:38am

Diamond White.

I pray that this evil concoction is no longer available to the general public.

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Mr Blue Sky | 20 January 2009 - 5:45am

Watneys Red Barrel

Did I miss this one above? I still have a Red Barrel key ring somewhere in the house. The beer was very ordinary. And I distictly remember my dad (90 in a few weeks time) drinking Whitbred Light Ale: haven't seen that about for a while.

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Bruised Mike | 20 January 2009 - 6:34am

Grain and grape, helpfully ready-mixed

Responsible for my first drunk, aged 15. Never, ever again.

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Archie Valparaiso | 20 January 2009 - 8:21am

Oh come now

You've made that up.

Did they serve it with a couple of fag butts and half a crisp in the glass?

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Captain Underpants | 20 January 2009 - 9:21am

*Four* year old Scotch whisky?

(shakes head in amazement)

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stimpy | 31 October 2009 - 9:58pm

Sort of "No Clan Dew" then......

There are some marvellous drinks to start young men into a life of rack and ruin. And who of us haven't filled a small bottle with an inch or so of everything from the parents "cocktail cabinet" and quaffed it quick?

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Retropath2 | 20 January 2009 - 8:27am

Back in the day

my friends and I celebrated each others birthday with the birthday boy drinking a pint of Worseley (actually dont know the spelling but its irrelevant). Basically it was half a lager or bitter in a pint glass with the second half of the glass filled up with as many different shorts as possible ie. Drambuie, Bacardi, Rum Whiskey Vodka!! These days it would probably come with a health warning and it probably explains some of my missing brain cells!!

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Steve Turner | 20 January 2009 - 9:30am

More made up drinks!

Round our way off-licences sold cheap wine & spirits on draught. So my mate Sag (honest!) would take an empty Vimto bottle and have it filled with whisky, wine and whatever else came to mind. The name on the label was suitably crossed out and replaced with NITRO.

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Beany | 20 January 2009 - 9:46am

A pint of shit please, barman

Scott mentioned Diamond White. I believe this drink is still on sale, probably from those inner city off-licences that have their interiors screened off by perspex.

I don't think the same can be said of its partner-in-crime, the proto-alcopop Castaway, a mix of white wine and fruit juice. These two together were the constituent parts of the "cocktail" known as Blastaway.

Rather less prosaically, the unlikely combination of a bottle of Diamond White mixed with a half of Newcastle Brown was known, by my Geordie mates at least, as a pint of shit. With good reason.

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Hosskins | 20 January 2009 - 11:55am

Fancy A Shag?

Actually, that is the slogan for this Dutch beer, imported into the UK. The Aussies don't seem to like it though...

Never seen it in the shops, only at a pubs & restaurant trade exhibition. Very popular stand but not as popular as the absinthe sampling area. Hic! I once recall alcoholic slush - another passing fad long gone.

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Beany | 20 January 2009 - 12:33pm

Watney's Starlight

No-one has mentioned this "beer", which Richard Boston, in his book Beer and Skittles, claimed contained so little alcohol it could have been legally sold as a soft drink. I never tasted it, so this is the only comment I can make. Unlike Red Barrel it never got advertised in the north so it probably never got sold there.
Which reminds me of all those alcohol free beers, as advertised by Lawrie McMenemy et al. Why did they cost so much? No alcohol = no duty = profit for the breweries.

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Carl Parker | 20 January 2009 - 1:07pm

Mad dog 20/20

I remember drinking this at university
Not sure how or why I remember it

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Martin Langkjaer | 20 January 2009 - 5:46pm

Roses Bitter

According to my father, Roses Bitter used to be the creme de la creme of bitters in North Yorshire.It's no longer available and I fear the same will happen to Tetley as well, when the brewery moves out of Leeds it will be the beginning of the end. It's hard enough to get a pint of decent hand pulled Tetley round these parts, apart from my local and a couple of bars in town. Tetley Smooth is a no no and must be avoided at all costs! Would like to have tasted Roses though.

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David Wright | 20 January 2009 - 8:14pm

The saying goes...

If Typhoo put the T in Britain, who put the P in Tetley's?

Must admit to having a soft spot for Joshua Teltley's Mild, as opposed to the Tetley Walker stuff on t'other side o' Pennines.

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Beany | 20 January 2009 - 8:36pm

Mirage and Taboo

Every pub in Romford had did a very brisk trade during the 1980's. Taboo, (the red one) survived its green counterpart by some years and was latterly available in little pre mixed cans, (mixed with lemonade). A kind of poor girl's Campari.

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bloomsbury | 20 January 2009 - 9:10pm

Diamond White

Not big. Not clever. Very very ugly

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MatDavies | 21 January 2009 - 11:19am

Not alcoholic...

...but a favourite Sunday lunchtime recovery drink used to be 'Muddy Water' - Coke and Orange Juice - they need to be stirred together and form a think brown emulsion.

Great as a hangover cure though!

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stimpy | 21 January 2009 - 12:10pm

Whisky/Gin and Orange

Am I the only one that used to drink spirits with a shot of orange squash?

I sincerely hope so...

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gffcllns | 21 January 2009 - 3:40pm

Well not quite

Me & my fellow teenage mates tried various drinks with mixers.

Bitter & orange anyone?

Oh, oh, oh! I remembered another lost drink. Grunhalle Lager. Yes it was brewed by Greenhalls. Yes it was cat's piss.

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Beany | 21 January 2009 - 4:00pm

Underberg!

Tiny bottles sold from an ammo belt hung up behind the bar. Apparently a wonder cure for hangovers, never dared try it after watching a mate (who was very hungover), down one and immediately projectile vomit over the barman.

We didn't stay in the pub very long.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underberg

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Neil Dyson | 21 January 2009 - 4:52pm

Becherovka

National spirit of the Czech Republic, tastes like liquefied bonfire toffee. Vile. Still drank it though, obviously.

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bloomsbury | 21 January 2009 - 6:52pm

That sounds...

Belting! In a former career I was a civil service bod responsible for things European in Norn Iron. We celebrated the accession of the Eastern Bloc countries into the EU with a range of events, including a film season at the QFT. I also managed to get a night of music from across Europe put on at the John Hewitt, whereupon I was rendered most unwell on Polish honey liqueur provided by a Slovenian gypsy band.

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GD Nicholson Esq. | 22 January 2009 - 4:44pm

Fighting talk

How dare you sir.
No,it tastes like herbal cough mixture and is made in a distillery near my grandmothers house. To be drunk after a meal a la Jagermeister as a digestive. Not really made for having a session.

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paul beard | 25 January 2009 - 9:50pm

Vodka and Russchian

I never, ever, met anyone who drunk Russchian. Amazingly, it's still available. A mixer designed especially for vodka, the colour of dentist's mouthwash.

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Pete_M | 21 January 2009 - 7:59pm

Erm, me, I have

Tastes quite nice with vodka actually. I find most things do.
Might even save Cherry B which I do remember drinking in my mid-teens when taken into a pub with my parents for a 'treat'.
Catie

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gollywollypogs | 21 January 2009 - 10:29pm

In sober (?) retrospect...

...it must have a wide audience. It's still going strong but I can't recall it being advertised for many, many years.

Anyway, mine's a small Dubonnet.

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Pete_M | 21 January 2009 - 11:07pm

I'll join you

But I like a drop of tonic in my Dubonnet (apparently the only drink (and I don't mean only alcoholic drink) my mum could keep down when she was expecting me)
Cheers!
Catie

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gollywollypogs | 21 January 2009 - 11:46pm

Gin and Dubonnet

The late Queen Mums essential fuel (Lawd bless her etc etc etc): when she came to open up the new Students Union building some years back, the advice was that she be given a large one on arrival, seeing it was late in the day for her (10a.m.)She hoovered it and many more over the course of the visit, before being sick on the red carpet.
(Made the last bit up, but the rest is true and not at all atypical.)

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Retropath2 | 22 January 2009 - 8:38am

Here now then...

What WAS the name of that French guy who used to deliver the "Du 'av a Dubonnet...." line on TV ads back when the world was young? Some beer marques are being revived I notice, like Kents Best from much maligned Faversham brewers Shepherd-Neame, its actually rather good too. Stand by for Red Barrel Revival (not so good)

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Huggy | 22 January 2009 - 1:24pm

Why are Shepherd-Neame maligned?

I used to like a drop when I lived in SE London. Can't get it here in Southampton though (well not in pubs anyway).

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Tim McGuire | 23 January 2009 - 10:34am

I wish I was in...

Greenall Whitney land.

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GD Nicholson Esq. | 22 January 2009 - 4:39pm

Ooh yes...

...Greenalls Original, that was a pint...

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Richie B | 22 January 2009 - 5:33pm

You're

In Greenall Whitley laaaannnnd.

Oh oh oh! Think it was Greenalls that served their keg beer through a half-pint glass cylinder on the bar. At the flick of a switch the half-pint would be pumped into your glass and fill up at the same time, for a second pump action to pour your second-half. To make up your pint. You had to be there. Entranced an underage drinker I can tell you.

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Beany | 22 January 2009 - 7:16pm

The North West (& further afield?)

It wasn't just Greenall Whitley pubs that had those. Pubs that sold Borders (Border, The Prince of Ales) and Tetleys beers used them.

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Carl Parker | 22 January 2009 - 10:16pm

As did Banks's pubs...

...in the Midlands

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stimpy | 23 January 2009 - 9:15am

Bezique! Medori!

Drinks for girls with made up names. So very Eighties.

What exactly was Bezique?

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Five-Centres | 22 January 2009 - 6:01pm

Made up names?

I've no idea about Medori, but Bezique is a card game.
I don't know what it was like to drink though, I've never heard of it and Medori until now.

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Carl Parker | 22 January 2009 - 10:18pm

No No No!

It's Midori

http://www.midori-world.com/

It's a melon-flavoured liqueur and it's Japanese for "green"

and it's your bloody round - get to the bar

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Beany | 22 January 2009 - 10:25pm

regarding Caffreys....

..I remember reading in Pete Brown's excellent book on the history of beer drinking Man Walks Into A Pub that Caffrey's ale was a marketing disaster, as the mix of it being pumped with nitrogen to make it creamy and swirly combined with it's alcohol content of 5 per cent meant that "the Caffrey's hangover was one of the worst comedowns this side of heroin".

After sales plummeted due to drinkers not wanting to ever repeat this experience,
it's makers tried reducing it's alcohol content, but it was all too late.
.

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Ricardo | 22 January 2009 - 10:27pm

I guess that, when designing a new beer...

...the brewers don't do a 'hangover test' to make sure it gives the punter a tolerable hangover experience.

Can I add a recommendation for Pete Brown's* book as mentioned by Ricardo? It's an excellent read, fascinating and doesn't take its subject *too* seriously.

(* Not THAT Pete Brown)

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stimpy | 23 January 2009 - 9:18am

Caffreys

Y'know, I used to wonder why that Caffrey's used to hurt the head so much! I suppose those other creamy ones eg John Smiths, Worthington, were the same - damn stuff goes down too quickly as well....
Hey anyone seen Gold Label Barley Wine around lately? The editor of a long gone magazine I used to help out at used to down that at lunchtimes and go back to work happy as Larry (while some who might try to compete were slumped lifeless over a typewriter)

PS typewriter - arcane machine for producing letters and numbers direct on paper. Noisy, and heavy when thrown.

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Huggy | 23 January 2009 - 8:28am

As a young drinker

And I mean 10 or 11 here, I was regularly given Mathers' Black Beer with Ben Shaws' Yellow Lemonade to make a Sheffield Stout.

Following the family move to Devon, trips back to yorkshire always involved shipping a few bottles of black into the boot along with a crate of Ben Shaws goodness (yellow lemonade, pineappleade, cream soda, Benzade- their version of a popular energy drink, and orangeade). I was about 19 when I realised black beer had an alcohol content. No wonder I was subdued and happy in my youth!

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GD Nicholson Esq. | 23 January 2009 - 8:45am

Girls trying to look grown up whilst drinking underage......

Brandy and babycham
(lethal and will also dissolve your stomach lining)

Dubonnet and soda
(sickly and virtually impossible to get drunk on)

Cinzano and lemonade
(barf)

Gin and lime
(again, bye bye stomach lining!)

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xmorpheus | 23 January 2009 - 9:31am

Oh how I wish I hadn't

As an enthusiastic real ale lover I've had my fair share of beers with "Old" in their name. You know ... "Old Growler", Old "Peculiar", "Old dog breath" etc, but by far one of my worst experiences came in the 80s when for some inexplicable reason one Christmas Eve, Brandy and Babysham seemed like a good idea ... erm, no it wasn't.

However, this was topped by a brew at the other end of the scale. Again in the 80s someone (I think it was Guinness) marketed an alcohol free bottled bitter called Smithwick's. Initially this was a good solution for the driver. Tasted a bit like beer and looked like beer, both in and out of the bottle. Unfortunately, the downside was that it also gave me a hangover headache so violent I thought my head was going to explode. Never touched it again.

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Phil Pirrip | 23 January 2009 - 9:40am

Smithwicks

Erm do you mean they brought out an alcohol free version of Smithwicks or did you think that it was alcohol free? *confused*

You sure you're not thinking of Kaliber?

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xmorpheus | 23 January 2009 - 9:46am

Hic!

Could it have been the Absinthe mouthwash?

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Beany | 23 January 2009 - 9:48am

Which one did

Lawrie McMenemy used to advertise?

Why do I seem to remember these things and I have yet to hit 30?

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GD Nicholson Esq. | 23 January 2009 - 9:54am

That was Kaliber

although I didn't know the name of the guy until you said it - shows what I know about football!

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xmorpheus | 23 January 2009 - 9:57am

Barbican

Or, in his case, "Baaaaaaaaaarbican, it's great man"

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stimpy | 23 January 2009 - 9:58am

doh

Barbican. Billy Connolly did Kaliber. hey, I was on the brandy and babycham - no wonder I can't remember the last couple of years of the 80s! ;)

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xmorpheus | 23 January 2009 - 10:08am

Smithwick's

This was about the same time that Kaliber and Barbican were in their heyday but was definitely bitter rather than lager based. It was only years after that I discovered that Smithwick's existed as a real beer so I suspect that it was an old brand that the parent company dusted off and decided would be ideal to hit the target demographic. But it was definitely alcohol free with a serious kick.

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Phil Pirrip | 23 January 2009 - 10:36am

Old breweries...

In the 1970s/80s, Whitbread houses often had a framed family-tree showing all the breweries that Whitbread had taken over and subsumed into the Whitbread brand.

The odd thing was, this appeared to have been designed and displayed on the basis that it was a *good* thing...

"Here's a family tree of all the local brewers we closed down in order to be able to bring you this pint of Trophy"

(edit: Couldn't find an image anywhere else but there's one on ebay at http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WHITBREAD-Nice-Framed-Poster_W0QQitemZ300286716890...)

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stimpy | 23 January 2009 - 10:51am

Oh those were the days

Oranjeboom - you can still get this in quite a few pubs in London, my favourite being The Prince of Wales in Cleaver Square, Kennington, which is jointly owned by Dave Ball of Soft Cell fame (he can often be found propping up the bar with his mate Richard Norris from the Grid).

Mackesons - when my poor Nan was very ill is hospital last year this was what she asked for - cue my Mum and Auntie driving round various supermarkets in Kent until they eventually found it. Nan loved it and was pissed as a fart after a can of that.

Kilkenny - does anyone remember this? Irish cream ale similar to Caffreys with the same "a pig shat in my head" style hangovers due in part to the nitrogenated head. Seems to have disappeared without a trace.

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hayleyunlikely | 23 January 2009 - 10:00am
xmorpheus | 23 January 2009 - 10:09am

De Hems was always a haven of...

...Oranjeboom

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stimpy | 23 January 2009 - 10:15am

De Hems

Lovely beer in there! Alas I can no longer drink lager *sniff*

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hayleyunlikely | 23 January 2009 - 10:22am

It's a Lager Not a Tune

Oranjeboom is the predominant lager for the undiscerning down our way; it's another Shepherd-Neame brew. So not "used to drink", still do, if not in a fussy mood and having a break from proper beer.

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Huggy | 23 January 2009 - 10:21am

Guinness + Bitter: It could be worse...

When I was a young lad of 13 I would implausibly get served in pubs despite my shortness of stature. Everyone in my little set used to drink a Guinness + Bitter. On one occasion I had a bit of trouble conveying my order to the barman of a remote country pub and he served me with a half of bitter with a measure of gin in it.

I drank it just to avoid embarrassment. I don't even like gin. Or bitter, really...

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Lord Brixton | 23 January 2009 - 10:27am

Diamond White Redux

Did you know there was a Pink version for The ladies called "Diamond Blush" ?

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paul beard | 23 January 2009 - 6:22pm

Gold Label Barley Wine

There were still selling barley wine 2 years back in a small supermarket near me when I lived in East Finchley in London. I tried a bottle of the stuff out of curiousity, and have to say this revolting tramps tipple made Tennants Super taste like vintage Bollinger in comparison.

I still see Diamond White in the odd mini market, but suspect it's place in the chart of superstrong cider for hobos has been replaced by White Ace - another lethal brew with a minimal link to apples that comes in 59 pence cans, as well as the handy 1 litre bottle at a piffling £1.50.

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Ricardo | 23 January 2009 - 9:47pm

Round these parts...

...the hobo cider of choice seems to be Polaris. 2 litre bottle for 2 quid

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stimpy | 23 January 2009 - 9:53pm

Polaris?! lol. I'm guessing

Polaris?! lol. I'm guessing drinking this stuff leaves feeling like you've been nuked the next day...

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Ricardo | 23 January 2009 - 10:08pm

Oh just keep it down

to a dull roar will you. I've just got back fron the Winter Ales beer festival. Sampled the winning beer before it sold out; Atilla. Great name but 7.5% proof. Which meant I never got around to the Sgt. Pepper Stout but did manage the Lonesome Pine from the Ulverston brewery.

There's an idea for saving the record shops and pubs - combine the two! Let's go down the Mott The Hoople for a couple of pints and watch a DVD of the boys in action. Sorted.

Got a few beers in for the boys down the Firkin Podcast: Old Peculier and Old Growler. Boom boom!

Now where's me bloody bucket....

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Beany | 23 January 2009 - 11:56pm

I always thought that

beermats would be a great way to promote album covers.

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Archie Valparaiso | 25 January 2009 - 11:20am

They are

I had some that were used to promote Tony Visconti's solo album Inventory in the late '70s. Slightly laminated so they were no good at soaking up the slops but lasted a little longer than yer average mat.

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Beany | 25 January 2009 - 2:28pm

Beer at home means Davenport

I remember:

* adverts for Beer at home means Davenport - they would deliver it to you in bottles served in a crate - may have been a midlands thing.

* Smithwicks. In the UK it was low alcohol. I discovered the real stuff when visiting Ireland with my Wife in 1991.

* A dark lager being sold in the early 1980's - does anyone remember it

* whitbread slowly reducing their regional breweries. They named their property regions after their local brews - South East was Fremlins, South west was Flowers - Cant remember anymore

* Brew11 and also I think Brew10 - any once else remember these >

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andrewdavidlong | 24 January 2009 - 6:05pm

Do keep up :-)

We discussed Davvies back on 19th Jan and we discussed the Whitbread 'family tree' on 23rd Jan :-)

Brew 10 and Brew 11 were M&B

"Brew 11, satisfaction
That's the beer you're looking for"

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stimpy | 24 January 2009 - 6:55pm

Brew XI

To my shame I was among those students at Birmingham in the '70s who thought it was ever so witty to ask for a pint of Brew Ex One.

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Carl Parker | 24 January 2009 - 7:56pm

used to think

it was a pub cricket team.
Was always advertised in Aston Villa programmes. Foul stuff

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paul beard | 25 January 2009 - 9:53pm

ah memories!

As a 15 year old trying to be grown-up and sophisticated I would order Bacardi and coke, later on it was dry Martini and lemonade...

No-one has mentioned Moosehead Lager - I think it was Canadian. Mid to late 80s we used to drink it occasionally as it was quite hard to find.

Mid to late 90s there were other alcopops apart from hooch, I remember a line called Woodys that had a vanilla cream soda version.

We also invented a drink that we named "A shot in the dark" - pour half a bottle of Woodys cream soda into a pint glass, float a half of Guinness on top, drop in a shot of Tia Maria. YUM!!

Then I worked in a pub in Stockport in the late 90s for a couple of years. A half bitter and half lager was known as a pint of mixed or a chinese. And we did a fine line in dark rum and blackcurrant Hooch or gin and Lemon Hooch - absolute rocket fuel.

Once time the landlord fell out with some of our regulars and ended up in a fight with them resulting in him being punched in the eye. For the next week they would all order snakebite and black, locally known as a 'red eye'...

Happy days !!

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Em | 24 January 2009 - 11:27pm

...a mate of mine

would embarrass the crap out of us in pubs by insisting on Taboo and bloody lemonade when we wanted to drink beer with twigs in it, like Marston's Owd Roger or Black Sheep Riggwelter.

Going around the Black Sheep Brewery a few years back on the brewery tour, the tour guide intoned seriously to the small touring party that the rather potent Riggwelter was 'not a session beer'. All we could do was look askance at each other and say, 'oh, isn't it?'

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illuminatus | 25 January 2009 - 2:18pm

In student days...

...a mate of mine used to happily walk up to the bar and ask for "A pint of your cheapest beer please Landlord" in a Withnail-y kind of voice

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stimpy | 25 January 2009 - 2:24pm

Now i know

Why everyone hates students especially people in pubs.

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paul beard | 25 January 2009 - 9:54pm

beware the judder man


used to love this stuff (i think) it does'nt seem to exist anymore but the advert is still creepy

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slightly delayed | 26 January 2009 - 3:09am

Metz!

Yeah I used to quite like it too - that and Mule which was basically Bacardi and Soda with some lime in it. IIRC, that ad made it into the Top 100 Scariest Moments...?

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xmorpheus | 27 January 2009 - 9:37am

Whitbread Trophy

Does anyone remember a precursor to the "Big Head" ads in which a cartoon character dubbed Stanley hilariously performed all manner of unfeasible feats of derring-do to be asked by an awestruck admirer

"How do you do it, Stanley?"

To which our intrepid hero launched into a jingle which went:

"Oh, it's Tankard that helps you exce-ell
"After one you can do anything well"

with a big comedy trombone ending.

Youngers Scotch Bitter also had a series of ahead-of-their-time surreal ads round about 82-85, there is one on YouTube they were absolutely wondrous.

Haven't read all the thread but has anyone mentioned Party Sevens? We used to send the big lad who had a bit of fluff on his lip into the offie for one then sneak it into wherever someone had a bona fide baby sitting gig, divide it up then pinch whatever other alcohol was foolishly left about by the owners of the house, become ill then leave before the parents came home ensuring that the babysitter would get a right bollocking over broken ornaments, detritus, barfed-on carpets etc

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Preston74 | 29 January 2009 - 11:09am

Green Monster

Consisted of a Snakebite (larger & cider) with a shot of Blue Bols. Interestingly, the mixture was green rather than blue. A favourite of the Sheffield University Student Union bar.

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austinplatt | 2 February 2009 - 2:06pm

"Green Bastard" up here

The University Of Strathclyde version of this was a pint of Lowenbrau with a blue Bols. (Scottish measures are larger than English, and this would be a quarter gill.) Lowenbrau was from memory fairly strong too.

Three of these would set you up nicely for a night out.

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elhombremalo | 5 February 2009 - 8:06pm

What about Gauntlet?

A beer sold in Whitbread pubs in the early 70s and marketed as 'The Young Man's Drink'. Not enough young men took to it however, and it soon disappeared. Trophy lived on but of course dreadful lager was set to dominate the universe.

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Richard Raftery | 3 February 2009 - 8:15pm

Just watched

James and Oz drink Britain, lovely gentle ale-centric telly. lovely. Made me want to sink a few.

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Retropath2 | 3 February 2009 - 9:00pm

Just read all the threads &

have some answers.

Crusader lager was the dark lager in the '80's - never tried it.

A small can beer was given to patients on long stay geriatric wards where I worked in the late '70's with their evening meal (If they wished).

Guinness was given to breast-feeding mothers (to keep their strength up).

If you had the opportunity to try proper draught Brew XI it was a real treat.
Most places in the'70's served the keg rubbish which is why it had a deservedly poor reputation.

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Alejam | 8 February 2009 - 11:35pm

Before there were Alcopops....

Bulmers No 7 Cider
+
Special Brew
+
Ribena

Yum...then fall down in a teenage gibbering mess.

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mattmuso | 12 February 2009 - 10:08pm

what we used to drink..

I remember a brief flirtation with Grunhalle "gold" some wickedley "silly" juice. My freind Garry and myself only dared mess with it and imbume between 21:30/23:00 on friday eves. It all ways made the kebab radar kick in at 00:00. happy lost memories of '88/'89. Amazingly Garry can still sing in a professional capacity. obviously I went into education (again)

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walshy1 | 17 February 2009 - 8:20pm

I remember when I was little

I remember when I was little there was a drink called Brifcor:)) It was my favorite drink at the time. I`d love to find at least one bottle to remember it`s taste, for the sake of our past times. Even heard about a family who put their baby names after this drink.

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johanna10 | 9 May 2009 - 11:35am

Pint of snakebite and black

with a shot of pernod in it :(

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Joe Muggs | 9 May 2009 - 11:42am
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