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What was the most charismatic record shop of all?

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Image Back in the early 70s, when there were no megastores with extensive inventories of specialist music, the only place you could really get traditional black American music was Doug Dobell's shop in London's Charing Cross Road. It was actually two shops next door to each other. The jazz shop was full of disapproving blokes in horn-rimmed glasses smoking pipes and talking about Bix. The folk and blues shop was full of younger blokes in those long stripey college scarves picking up Excello reissues of Lightnin Slim and looking through the imports that they could never possibly afford. This was the place where the young Mick Jagger and Jeff Beck used to come to buy Buddy Guy records, which were literally unavailable anywhere else.

Welcoming? Was it hell? Snobby and condescending? You bet. Dobell's didn't survive the redevelopment of the West side of the street and I seem to remember it was briefly in new premises somewhere near The Ivy but now it's gone forever. But in its heyday it was a place where you could literally spend all day going through the racks, acquiring an education by reading the sleeve notes and ear-wigging the most elitist small talk.

Anyone else got any similar favourites? And have you got pictures?

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NEWPORT COURT

In the 1970s in Newport Court, off London's Charing Cross Road, were 4 second hand record emporiums virtually all next to each other. Shabby, chaotic and grasping they occupied shack like dwellings and dim lit basements, dusty musky and smelling faintly of the thin polythene covers each album was masked by. If, upon purchase, you wanted to keep this murky sheath it would be an extra 5p.

You could browse for hours through LP's singles and EP's and rarely did their stock ask more than £1.50 - for records that today go for thousands. I bought Bowie's Man Who Sold The World dress cover for £1.30 and a James Taylor double bootleg for an outrageous £2. Still have them both. They always had jazz burbling away but sold almost only rock. Man, Ten Years After, Stray, Gentle Giant, stuff on Vertigo, Pye, Transatlantic and Deram. I would give anything to be able to mooch around the old circuit one more time.

They always sort of looked like this

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Bodhisattva | 6 January 2011 - 12:49pm

In idle moments

I often fantasise about what I would do with a time machine - go back to London circa 1970 & load up on as many Vertigo swirls, pink Islands & obscure prog albums as I could cram on board.
Gary

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garyt | 6 January 2011 - 1:30pm

Has there ever been a more evocative label design?

Proustian rush; outrageous gatefolds by Keef, lined inner sleeves with that logo again, infra-red photography, elaborate fold-out covers and musicians you'd never heard of before. Wonderful.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 6 January 2011 - 2:06pm

That is the

charismatic Bill Forsyth. Moved to Blenhiem Cres. W11 and since then, apparently, to Red Lion Arcade 165/169 Portobello Rd. W11. Well worth a visit if you are in the area of a weekend.

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Dr.Pill | 6 January 2011 - 2:30pm

seconded

Top man.

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Runcible | 25 April 2012 - 4:35am

Not forgetting...

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Bodhisattva | 6 January 2011 - 12:54pm

Markets

When I lived in London in 1973-74 you could go to street markets and get current albums that had been presumably disposed of by lucky journalists for several p less than than even Virgin who were the cheapest.

I remember buying Ralph McTell's "Easy" in this fashion.

Maybe some music journalists from the time can shed further light?

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Mousey | 6 January 2011 - 1:08pm

I have a strong

memory c.1973 of seeing Nick Kent loping towards Berwick St. market with a stash of new LP's under his arm. I doubt he was rushing home to review them.

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Dr.Pill | 6 January 2011 - 2:18pm

Steve's Sounds

just off Charing Cross Road. My sister worked there through the 90s and into the early 21st century until Steve closed down. Some new stock, but mostly 2nd hand. A massive amount of their rarities and limited editions and collectors bits and pieces came from either record company staff themselves (promos and the like) or journos out to make a few extra quid.

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SimonL | 25 April 2012 - 1:22pm

Cash Sir?

Eighteen records all due for release by CBS next week sir? I'll offer you £15.

For any hack working the music press 1970-90 THIS was their private bank of choice. Fantastically surly staff.

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Bodhisattva | 6 January 2011 - 1:06pm

You blooming Londoners!

Cumbernauld only had a blooming Our Price when I were a lad.

*fires up Hovis advert music*

As I shuffled disconsolately around one central aisle packed solely with U2 cds and blooming heavy metal I knew the day would come when I would have access to London and its Berwick Street of delights I had heard tell of. Specialist shops! With obscure funk records! And soul music! And reggae by people other than Bob Marley! I would follow those self same pathways that led to the musical discoveries made by Joe Strummer, Keith Richards, Jimmy Page and every other artist I loved so well...

Except I didn't manage to move here till they had all closed. Apart from Sister Ray.

Snooty record shop assistants? Musical education on the racks? Rampaging snobbery? I dreamt of such wonders and now they are gone...

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ganglesprocket | 6 January 2011 - 1:12pm

Luxury!

We didn't even have the luxury of a branch of Our Price. Just Woolies, Boots and a section in one of the supermarkets.

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JQW | 6 January 2011 - 1:16pm

Camden Town

When I first started working in Camden a mere eight years ago, there were tons of specialist record shops. Now there are about two. I never go in them except occasionally to the Record and Tape Exchange but it's not what it was.

I'm too young to remember a proliferation of record shops in the purest sense - where I lived they were always part of gift shops though there was a small shop in the nearby town where I went to sixth form that we'd go to on Tuesday lunchtimes to hear the Top 40 being revealed. I don't remember buying much there though. Usually I went to Boots, Woolies, Carrefour or WHSmith. Virgin Records & Tapes was a bit scary.

When I was a student in Southampton there was a great one called Weasels on St Mary's Street, that I used browse in for hours. I think it's gone now. Otherwise it was just chainstores. On that score, I always liked the big Tower at Piccadilly Circus.

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Five-Centres | 6 January 2011 - 1:22pm

Early/mid-80s London...

... had a plethora of record shops, with about half a dozen in Camden alone, and Camden Market at the weekends (which at that time was often a good day out - bet it isn't now, if it still even exists) additionally had stalls selling second hand vinyl goodies. One could easily spend a whole day doing ALL the North/Central London shops, if one started early enough. A lot of the early part of my record collection came from doing those "rounds" on a regular basis. I guess I wish I'd bought more stuff, in fact, since a lot of the items that we used to see for pennies now fetch serious money. That is, of course, hindsight speaking.

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PhilC | 6 January 2011 - 2:47pm

compendium books

stumbling on this post i got to reminiscing about camden high street in the early '70s. there was hardly anything around there except for dingwall's, a few pubs including a mildly infamous drag joint called the black cap, plus a lot of kebab places.
AND london's hippest book store -- compendium books. it was the best place in town to pick up the american underground & music press - the berkeley barb, the village voice, rolling stone, crawdaddy, zap comix, etc. as well as the london underground press - frendz, it, oz, etc.
does anyone remember compendium? great place.
oh, for a time machine.....

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honkytonking | 24 April 2012 - 10:46pm

Another Compendium user

I didn't move to London until the early 80s, but a visit to Camden around then always had to include dropping in to Compendium.

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Carl Parker | 25 April 2012 - 1:07pm

In Barnsley


We had Casa Disco and Scene and Heard. There was also Woolies, WH Smith and if I remember rightly Boots used to sell records as well.

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Neil Dyson | 6 January 2011 - 1:24pm

talk about proustian rush..

"disco house" as only recently worked out it was called in English. Never thought to see that familiar bag ever again. Not sure when you left "tarn" (assuming you have) but in my time, there was also EGS records, a couple of second hand places in the covered market and a branch of Our Price opened next to Smith's. But yes to the others, all part of my Saturday morning teenage browse route.

I once naively confused the diligent middle aged brown tabarded staff of Smiths by trying to buy a obscure reggae 12 inch I'd heard on Annie Nightingale show.

EGS along with Casa were probably best, (EGS sold concert coach trip tickets in the days before the net).

One of my most cherished memories of EGS was on it's opening day; an huge crowd had been drawn by the promise of free records for the first 100 customers. The owners had also booked the spikier haired one from Black Lace to open the shop. After short in audible speech he cut the ribbon and was immediately knocked aside by the rush. His last words as he came up for air one last time was some thing like " Hold on you nutters ,I'm in Black Lace". Happy days! I think a got an Ultravox remix 12" : (

None of the places in town were really "temples of cool" I think we were just happy to have access to any music outside the mainstream fare of Boots etc.
Thanks for the pic.

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Chris G | 6 January 2011 - 2:48pm

I must be of an older vintage than you Chris

I believe Scene & Heard became EGS after I left tarn (1981 - although I did return for a couple of years mid 90's).

I forgot to mention Neals up Eldon Arcade where I bought a record with my own money for the first time - Two Little Boys by Rolf Harris!

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Neil Dyson | 6 January 2011 - 5:11pm

Groove records

on greek street. Yellow bags of quality.

"There was a little old lady with grey hair who looked a bit like Ann Widdecombe. She would sit in the corner, and when you asked her for records she would suggest other records you might like. She knew everything, which tells you why independent record shops are so special; they aren't staffed by part-time students who stand around looking slightly bored. They are run by people who care. If you asked her for the new Scott La Rock, she would know it had just come in, and shuffle off into the back to get it."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/apr/16/independent-music-stores-mus...

that was Auntie Jean

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Tips tifter for cheapo cheapo

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gaz | 7 January 2011 - 12:37pm

Village Music in Marin County, California

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I went here once. It smelt of wood, patchouli oil and coffee. It was the kind of place where Dan Hicks would shop. Closed in 2007.

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David Hepworth | 6 January 2011 - 1:31pm

Bet he never shifted any Grateful Dead albums either

oh no sirree...

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stimpy | 6 January 2011 - 3:50pm

I dont know about the records

but I'd have bought the Lauren Bacall cut out

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Molesworth | 7 January 2011 - 11:55am

record store from mill valley

i spied nicky hopkins there once looking through the noel coward section. yes, there was a noel coward section! much missed -- noel, nicky and village music.

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honkytonking | 25 April 2012 - 2:04am

Camerasports in West Byfleet,

2 surly and superior blokes behind the counter. When I walked up with my newly released copy of Darkness On The Edge of Town one of them cleared his throat, held the album above his head and announced to the Saturday morning shopfull, "See, someone in this shit town has some musical taste. If any of the rest of you come up here with anything less than this you can fuck off." Happy days. Oddly enough, I remember leaving the shop feeling 10 feet tall.

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niallb | 6 January 2011 - 1:43pm

Good Vibrations Belfast

Late 1970's and the charismatic but slightly intimidating Terri Hooley behind the counter.

At the time the shop was situated above a vegetarian/health food shop on Great Victoria Street and I was a frequent visitor after school.

The first place I knowingly had a conversation with a Catholic of similar age. We could tell each other apart by school uniform. Prejudices were left at the door along with our school bags.

An oasis of sanity amongst the madness that was Northern Ireland at the time.

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Sebastian Beach | 6 January 2011 - 1:52pm

As I spent virtually...

...every Saturday from 1972-1976 in there it would have to be the late lamented 'Ear-'Ere Records (see what they did there?)in Lancaster. It started off as a stall in the market before moving to what seemed like the height of luxury - an actual shop! - round the corner in Penny Street.

Clogging up the racks next to me at various times - John Waite, Johnny Green of Clash road manager fame, record company top bloke Malcolm Hill & Richard Allinson. In the actual racks: the MC5, Bowie, Dolls, Springsteen bootlegs, Nils Lofgren, Sparks, Emmylou. Oh how we laughed when we first heard "Bohemian Rhapsody"...

The staff were surprisingly tolerant of a music-obsessed teenager & even now, nearly 40 years later, it still brings a smile to my face to think of it. Take a bow Barry Lucas, Nigel Waller, Roger Moorhouse, Malcolm Redpath & Eric who's surname I have shamefully forgotten!

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MarkHagen | 6 January 2011 - 1:57pm

'Ear 'Ere

Considering that I grew up 10 miles away, I also seemed to have spent a lot of time in their first shop just outside the market. Buying plenty of vinyl albums in the late seventies and early 80s. I think I used to get tickets for Lancaster Uni gigs there as well!

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craig42blue | 8 January 2011 - 2:02pm

Spillers Records Cardiff

The "oldest record shop in the world"

http://spillersrecords.co.uk/

Still around, but they recently moved a few feet away from the original location after a long fight against closure.

Also the superb (but now pricey) Kellys Records on the balcony in Cardiff Market. Bought many great condition records there for a pound of two.

http://www.kellysrecords.com/

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dai | 6 January 2011 - 1:50pm

Spillers!

In my youth I spent bloody hours of any given day in there. Sold a record collection to Kellys to fund a trip abroad to visit a GF, too....she wasn't worth it.

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BigJimBob | 8 January 2011 - 12:08pm

What??

Kellys gave you enough money to fund a trip abroad? Or were you only going as far as Bristol?

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stinglikeabee | 9 January 2011 - 9:38pm

Well

it was a contribution to the costs and I did flog a lot....

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BigJimBob | 10 January 2011 - 1:01am

Great Shop

Bought my first record in Spillers and spent most of my teenage years either in there or like yourself on the balcony in the market.Great memories.A mention must also go to Buffalo Records on The Hayes another superb shop where I spent perhaps too much of my Saturday afternoons.

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Alan33 | 25 April 2012 - 3:15pm

Selling Records

How many time have I walked into the above pictured Cheapos and with a squared jaw thought, "Right, I'll not accept a penny under thirty quid for what I have under my arm..."

Then Grim Phil would take the discs from me with a sigh, start flicking through the cache and seperating them into three different piles that I could never fathom would, after a pause, mutter...

"Eight quid on those"

To which I would say,

"Righto!"

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Bodhisattva | 6 January 2011 - 1:53pm

The three different piles

Yep. Still no wiser.

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bathmat | 6 January 2011 - 2:46pm

Piles...

1. Rare stuff that will shift
2. Deep catalogue that will make the shelves look good
3. No Parlez

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stimpy | 10 January 2011 - 6:16pm

Virgin Records

long before it was ever a Megastore. Bottom of Corporation street in Birmingham - it had aircraft seats with headphones and there was lots of cigarette smoke mixed with incense.Great staff too.

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Steve Turner | 6 January 2011 - 1:58pm

Plus

the window was painted with the triplane off the sleeve of Jefferson Airplane's After Bathing at Baxter's.
I remember Tim the manager well. Nice guy.

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Carl Parker | 6 January 2011 - 2:07pm

Thanks for the comment.

I wish someone would post a photo of the window painting somewhere. Unfortunately I lost most of my memorabilia when relocating to San Francisco many years ago.
Unusually pleased to come across this mention, and again, thanks for the nice comment.
Regards
Tim

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timstratton | 11 May 2012 - 2:33am

Ditto the Plymouth branch.

Big enough for about 5 people to stand cosily shoulder to shoulder while they avoided stepping on the two or three further punters who could fit on the legless sofa that ran up one entire side of the shop, beneath two pairs of dangling 'phones. One customer might be grooving almost horizontally on cans to the latest waxing from Back Door, while the shop reverberated to the grinding organ chords from 'Nantucket Sleighride', to which all five heads would be nodding appreciatively. It was a proper record shop, staffed by proper hippy capitalists, and stank of afghan coats and stale roll-ups. Most excellent.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 6 January 2011 - 2:13pm

It's still there...

There's a shop as you head out of East Finchley in London called Alan's Record Shop. I have no idea how he remains profitable, if indeed he even is. It is a roll of the dice as to wheter he's open or not. When he does open it's sometime around midday. The place is in a little bit of a state, but it has personality.

This blog post about a typical interaction with the store is quite amusing...
http://32rpm.blogspot.com/2009/06/last-christmas-i-took-time-out-to-visi...

Oh look, here are his opening hours...
http://www.alansrecords.com/page3.html

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DrJ | 6 January 2011 - 1:58pm

I've driven past there 47,593 times

and not once has it been open. I shall try and drive past between 12 - 6pm next time.

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Hannah | 25 April 2012 - 3:57pm

You want Charisma?

Skeleton Records, Birkenhead. 1972-1976 vintage.

No shop front, just a door that opened off the main street in between two other dingy shops.

A long, dark, narrow corridor that opened up into a single room, divided by a counter which was to the right as you entered. The counter housed a few small boxes of singles - generally imports with the centre hole punched out.

Ahead were the racks containing second hand albums (covers only). Loads of samplers (some in circular covers) and, for some reason, numerous copies of 'Dark Side of the Moon' (by Medicine Head, not Pink Floyd).

To the left were the racks of 'Imports' - in fact, bootlegs all on the 'TMQ' label.

To effect your purchase, you would take your selected cover to the counter and pass it to the 'head' on the other side. He would place his rollup in the overflowing ashtray, then find the vinyl that corresponded to your cover from one of the racks behind the counter. Price handwritten on the inner sleeve having been matched with that on the album cover, he would then ceremoniously unveil the disc itself and pass it to you for the ritual checking for scratches. If you were happy that the disc was scratch-free (or at least not so scratched that it wasn't even worth £1.10) then a brief nod and the exchange of coin would conclude the transaction.

Bags were, I believe, brown paper rather than plastic although my memory is a bit hazy on the subject.

The shop did have an upstairs - a staircase led up from the right of the store to an upstairs room. Rumour has it that clothes (perhaps cheesecloth) and 'smoking paraphernalia' were sold upstairs, along with certain 'essential oils' which certainly included patchouli. But none of us were ever brave enough to venture up the stairs to confirm this.

Skeleton moved to bigger, airier premises in the late 1970s, but left the magic behind.

And yet - on occasion, I will idly flick through my vinyl collection and select a disc - perhaps Rory's 'Irish Tour', or Traffic's 'Mr Fantasy' - and gently ease open the sleeve.

And the faint smell of patchouli will once again drift past my nostrils...

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Paul Waring | 6 January 2011 - 2:08pm

The dark door

I always felt a bit out of place in there as the only opportunity to visit it was after school, when I would of course be in school uniform. I always felt the 'head' was looking down his nose at us.
They were also fairly derisive of music that wasn't rock. John Lawlor asked about Stevie Wonder (this was Talking Book era when he was turning the Tamla image into a very serious one) and was given just a curt "No".

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Carl Parker | 6 January 2011 - 2:38pm

Skeleton

I think the magic is subjective - I remember Skeleton in the late 80's/early 90's when it was just by the Park hotel in Charing Cross - first floor only, you had to climb steps straight off the street, I think. You could spend hours working top to bottom - gazing at the rarities in plastic high up on the walls, to the regular albums/12s in the racks, and then the slow realisation that you were destined to rustle through the cardboard boxes under the racks.

Sold many of my treasures there - I worked in Woolies on saturdays at 16, and initially spent my wages on New Order, Pet Shop Boys etc rarities (yes, Woolies had rarities!) and then eventually sold them at Skeleton when I got more interested in beer and ladies at 18/19!

Fabulous place!

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AgentGraves | 6 January 2011 - 5:49pm

The 'Dance Music' record shop in High Bridge, Newcastle.

Utterly baffling. all white with a set of decks and a small rack of 12" singles - maybe 100 in all - in white card sleeves labelled '185BPM/Hardcore/Teancebump#FFi5#/12:57 They had more record bags on sale than they did records.

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bathmat | 6 January 2011 - 2:09pm

Impact, Chester

Situated on the north Watergate Street row, this was the first rock record shop to open in Chester. Previously you could go to Rushworth & Draper, Hilda Catherall or the music shop in Brown's of Chester, but these were all shops that saw themselves as classical music shops, that had to cater for the "popular" music consumed by young people which was profitable, but ever so vulgar.
Then Impact opened in 1970 / 71 and suddenly we found a shop you could spend hours in on a Saturday listening to stuff Peel played and even more that he didn't play. The two guys behind the counter, who's names I can't recall, were very tolerant of teens hanging round, flicking through the racks, only making occasional purchases. I doubt that I could afford more than an album a month in those days.
Was it charismatic? Probably not especially so. However the original two did create a certain atmosphere that changed in some imperceptible way when they moved on (to become photograhphers I think). Their replacements did OK, but it just wasn't the same. But for me and I'm sure many others it was a celestial cavern in an otherwise dull provincial town.

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Carl Parker | 6 January 2011 - 2:24pm

Impact Records

As I recall the blonde chap was named Pete and the dark haired one was named Steve. Both were kind, tolerant and helpful to my naive 15- 17 yo music junkie self. I have fond memories of that place.

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gomad361 | 21 May 2011 - 12:09am

Those names

ring a bell with me.

No doubt at some point we stood side by side, flicking through racks and then performed the record shop pas de deux as we changed places.

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Carl Parker | 21 May 2011 - 11:08am

the most charismatic was...

... the one you grew up with, hence The Other Record Shop, Union Street, Aberdeen, in the 1970s, now long gone. Eclectic would be the word; i met both The Valves and Elkie Brooks there ... I googled, not much online about it, but it does seem to have been part of a chain?

Also, from just over two years ago...
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/oh-record-shops-we-used-know

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Glenbervie | 6 January 2011 - 2:36pm

A chain it was...

...there was one in Stirling & I'm sure at least one in Glasgow & Edinburgh...

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MarkHagen | 6 January 2011 - 5:05pm

The Beat Goes On

The best branch of Cambridge's mini-chain: Andy's Records. I spent many happy hours browsing the secondhand delights downstairs. LPs were cheap enough to buy based only on the cover. I still love albums selected in this way, e.g Rickie Lee Jones (is that a cigarillo?), Average White Band (saucy logo), etc.

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Trumpey123 | 6 January 2011 - 2:40pm

Red Rhino Records, York

Was my indie Mecca. Whatever I heard on Peelie I'd find it there:

See You in Havana by The Hit Parade? Check.
Born Sandy Devotional by The Triffids? Check.
Good Technology by The Red Guitars? Check.

before I became an indie kid I also loved scouring the mammoth racks of 7"s in HMV in Leeds and was always overjoyed to find Dirk era Adam and the Ants singles and the like.

Them were the days.

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toiras34 | 6 January 2011 - 2:57pm

Elton's Little Earner

In the booklet that comes with Eltom John's Capt. Fantastic LP is a great picture of Musicland - the heads record shop that he used to work in on Berwick Street W1. He used to be given time off to record Woolworth cover versions. Classic early 70s store - none of your chart stuff there - but Bless The Weather always in stock. Alternatively, good luck with getting your Amon Duul II albums here.

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Bodhisattva | 6 January 2011 - 3:08pm

Ray's

In the West End - before they wound up in Foyles. Especially the 'hen's teeth' section. Good to see I'm not the only one who kept all his bags.

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John Medd | 6 January 2011 - 3:29pm

Probe Records in Liverpool

Growing up in 60's Liverpool there were branches of NEMS everywhere, and the best of these was the famous one on Whitechapel. I used to love going in the soundproof booths to listen to the latest singles....no obligation to buy. As the seventies dawned and our 6th form tastes veered towards 'progressive' music and albums rather than singles, two exciting and very different new shops arrived. The Virgin store on Bold Street with it's bootlegs, 'interesting' smells in the upstairs listening area and general hippy vibe. Then there was Probe Records in Clarence Street, near the bombed church, up the hill from the city centre. This was run by a guy called Geoff Davies who knew his stuff. The first time I ventured in there he was playing a live Beatles bootleg very loud. Marvellous. That area of Liverpool was fantastic, with the nearby University, Philharmonic Pub, and of course the Everyman Theatre with the likes of Pete Postlethwaite, Trevor Eve, Bernard Hill, Anthony Sher, Julie Walters all appearing.

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Baz | 6 January 2011 - 4:01pm

Clarence Street?

Was that a separate branch?

The Probe I know is currently on the corner of Slater Street, just down from the Jacaranda.

But back in the day, it was just off Whitechapel, on the way to Mathew Street in what is now an upmarket boutique. A very intimidating place, with a young Pete Burns working with The Prof to intimidate and pour scorn upon any young schoolie (ie me) who might come in to browse, and mayhap buy the latest Teardrop Explodes single...

Great place.

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Paul Waring | 6 January 2011 - 4:28pm

Yes

As a pimply faced 18 yr old student I bought Lennon's Starting Over single from an extremely unimpressed Pete Burns. He almost threw it at me.

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dai | 6 January 2011 - 5:04pm

Clarence Street was the first shop

Paul, I'm talking about 1971/72, so I guess Geoff moved the shop to more accessible premises in the city centre later on when it was more established. It was certainly on Clarence Street when I frequented it.

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Baz | 6 January 2011 - 5:16pm

not sure which

branch I bought it from (circa '86) but I got "Brotherhood" by NewOrder from there I was visiting my brother at Uni and was as excited about going to Probe as going to grown up student drinking dens with brothers mates. Did the usual thing of staring at it for 20 minutes before buying. Didn't HMHB records come from here originally I think that was part of the appeal too.

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Chris G | 6 January 2011 - 5:41pm

That predates me then

I first became aware of Probe in 1977/8 at the onset of Punk, when its location (just round the corner from Eric's) was ideal. Think it moved up to Slater Street sometime in the '90s?

I probably started solo record shopping in around 1972 at the unbelievably trendy Virgin store which, if memory serves, was upstairs in Bold Street somewhere? Prior to that, it would have been NEMS on shopping trips with my mum, or Beattie's department store in Birkenhead where I bought my first two LPs with my own money - Imagine and Who's Next.

In answer to Chris G, HMHB were definitely on 'Probe Plus' which was a label offshoot of the shop, I think. Home also to the wonderfully-monikered (if ultimately disappointing) 'Jegsy Dodds and the Sons of Harry Cross'. The city centre shop was on a corner, in an old brick building up a few stone steps? Slater Street is a bog-standard 'square' modernish shop, all glass and aluminium.

See also Backs in Norwich, record shop and label. Bought many New Order 12" singles in there, as well as obscurities by Gee Mr Tracey and The Fire Hydrant Men (featuring the Fabulous Fezettes) on the 'Backs' label.

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Paul Waring | 6 January 2011 - 5:54pm

Probe - It's moved again...........

It's now in a tiny room just next to The Bluecoat - you can still buy a huge range of HMHB t-shirts if you fancy.

I can remember that when I moved to Liverpool I would only ever buy Fall releases at Probe - can't remember why but somehow seemed the right thing to do.

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southstand | 6 January 2011 - 8:31pm

Romford

I was trying to find an image of Downtown records in Romford Market (to no avail). However I came accross this rather splendid picture of a record store in Romford in the 60's. Anyone recognise it? Its possibly Wells Music Store.

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Martin Simmonds | 6 January 2011 - 4:21pm

Downtown Records

Was not just one record shop, but a chain! They had branches in various other Essex towns. I grew up in Southend, and in the late 70s there were lots of hip record stores there. Happy days.

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PhilC | 7 January 2011 - 2:57pm

The Cow Wynd

in Falkirk was the street where Brian Findlay's Record Shop was. I can't remember the dates but it had to be early 70's. It then became Bruce's Record Shop. Bruce was Brian's brother and later was the manager of Simple Minds. Later on it became Sleeves. I remember one of the blokes behind the the counter wearing a "If it ain't stiff...it ain't worth a f*ck" t-shirt. I also remember going in with a friend and he said to one of the workers "I'm looking for Tom Waits?". Said employee looks at other employee straight faced whilst both shake their heads and replies "Nope, he don't work here!".

I think it was a small chain of stores in Central Scotland that lasted up 'til around 2000.

This is the Kirkcaldy shop.

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bigsteviecook | 6 January 2011 - 4:49pm

Rocking Horse Records

Was, in the late 70's and early eighties, the coolest record shop in Brisbane. The place to go for those new Go-Betweens releases. Still going strong albeit at a different address and logo as below:

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Steerpike | 6 January 2011 - 5:13pm

The original Virgin store

In Oxford St. I found it very intimidating. For a start I seem to remember it didn't have its own entrance but you had to go in through a shoe shop (a bit like some of those "respectable" bookshops in Soho).

When you'd got into the shop you found extremely hip staff and aircraft seats (was Branson already showing signs of how his career would go?) that I was far too intimidated to use. I was young, mind.

I remember Dobell's as well. Shame when it went.

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Thomas the Rhymer | 7 January 2011 - 8:59am

I want up the stairs...

...at the back of Shelley's Shoes many times. The fledgling Virgin was tremendously brazen about the sale of bootlegs. I bought CSNY's "Wooden Nickel" and Deep Purple's "H Bomb" there, possibly off RB himself. I've told him of this since and he maintained they never sold bootlegs. He retreated from this position by saying, "Actually I didn't know what was bootleg and what wasn't so perhaps we did..." You did Richard.

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Bodhisattva | 7 January 2011 - 3:06pm

£1,045 fine, apparently

From the superb book, "Bootleg: The Rise and Fall of the Secret Recording Industry" by Clinton Heylin:

"Dub [a Los Angeles-based producer of bootleg records]: 'One of the things I had done to throw people off in this country was to have our plant here have labels that said "Made in Holland" on them, because of the liberal laws in Holland. So when the copyright control in Britain wanted to make an example of Virgin Records on Oxford Street, and went in there, got rough, wrecked the place, confiscated the records - anyway, the record companies had a big write-up about this, "Pirated records seized at major store in London," and all of this shit. It was a little hole-in-the-wall at that time. We would get Melody Maker, and I'm reading about this bust, and it said, "Scotland Yard after careful investigation has traced the operation to Holland." All they had done was looked at one of the records, which was made here in LA but which said "Made in Holland" on it!'

"The Virgin Records bust, and a court judgement against the boss, Richard Branson, in March 1973 (which resulted in a £1,045 fine), had an almost immediate impact. Not only did bootleg product disappear from all Virgin outlets, but 'alternative' retailers began to file their bootlegs away in some dingy alcove downstairs... (In a gesute of bravado, the bootlegger responsible for the 1978 Sex Pistols bootleg "Indecent Exposure" dedicated the album to Richard Branson, by then no longer the mere owner of a chain of retail shops but also mogul of the Virgin record label, which put out Pistols product officially. Its rear cover included a press cutting recording Branson's own prosecution for the sale of Deep Purple bootlegs five years earlier.)"

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Wardour | 8 January 2011 - 7:43pm

Manchester

I remember as a student in Manchester back in the 80's there was a second hand record shop on Oxford Road. Was trying to remember it the other week when responding to the "whats left to release on CD" thread as that's where I got my vinyl copy of the Buckingham Nicks album.

I remember it being totally disorganised and the owner being rather unfriendly, but was always interesting.

Still can't remember its name......

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chrisf | 7 January 2011 - 9:17am

I was just about to post about this..

Pandemonium records. Run by a miserable old beardy get who used to charge you fifty pence just to look round. The place has now moved but the miserable beardy get is still there..

http://www.pandemoniumrecords.co.uk/look.html

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Lenny Law | 7 January 2011 - 11:43am

*Cue Twilight Zone music*

I was thinking of the same feller too! I went to his shop once after reading an article in the MEN. Every nook and cranny was stuffed with vinyl records.

I found a disc I wanted but he decided, as it was his last copy, he could not sell it to me. Instead he offered to copy it onto a cassette and post that on to me. For a fee of course.

"George does his best to keep the damp at bay and he is currently fighting eviction." - that was the same story back in the day on Oxford Road. I think he plays on this now for what, essentially, is someone's overgrown record collection.

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Beany | 7 January 2011 - 12:31pm

Edinburgh

Some of the best record shops are to be found where universities dwell. Edinburgh had loads of excellent establishments in my youth: my personal favourites were Greyfriars Market in Forrest Road, and Headquarters, a boutique with a downstairs second-hand record shop featuring liquid projection, comfy chairs and non-stop music. They were happy to play the album you were interested in to help you decide whether to purchase it. Helpful, knowledgeable people.

Delighted to have found this site which brought back memories:
http://www.edinburghgigarchive.com/page28.htm

Enjoy!

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Baskerville Old Face | 7 January 2011 - 3:52pm

Black Sedan, Manchester

Anyone remember Black Sedan in Manchester, they were in that first floor shop on Oxford Road before Pandemonium. We were in town trying to track down some bootlegs, about 1973 I think, and got directions to Black Sedan from the staff in the old Virgin shop in Lever Street. They'd just been busted for selling boots but were happy to tell anyone who was interested where you could find them. Eventually found the place up a rickety old stairway above a veggie cafe. That was a great shop, I got piles of stuff from there. They moved into the university precinct further down Oxford Road around 75 and while still good it didn't have the grotty ambience of the old place and was never quite the same after that, particularly after they got busted for selling boots as well.

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the purple avenger | 7 January 2011 - 5:34pm

Two still open that I like

are Concerto in Utrechtstraat in Amsterdam and Ben's Collectors Records In Guildford, rather different in character but equally engrossing. And how come no mention of Amoeba so far, probably the best record shop in the world and worth a trip to LA just to go there.

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Bruised Mike | 8 January 2011 - 1:16pm

Contempo

Went there a few times in early 80s to look though and wonder about the great collection of Soul and R&B in the true sense. It was in a very seedy alleyway near Tottenham Court Road and not very big but it had lots of treasure there.

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Ozmium | 9 January 2011 - 12:51am

No mention yet

of the fantastic Cob Records in Bangor. Literally the only place for miles that sold anything I might want to buy when I was a teenager. Still open I think.

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ceepee | 10 January 2011 - 3:07pm

Unfortunately, I can't remember its name.

There was this little shop in York, circa 1990, situated a little out of the city centre on Walmgate, a road not at all troubled by tourists.

They appeared to mainly deal in vinyl, although they had some CDs. Their stock was mainly divided between re-issues of late 1960s material (in particular psychedelia) and pre-war blues compilations on the Document label; in fact I can't recall them actually stocking anything contemporary.

They also ran another shop over the road that sold wind-up gramophones and clocks. When they finally closed (they can't have lasted that long), some of their stock ended up over the road.

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JQW | 10 January 2011 - 3:27pm

Vibes

The one shop that will forever hold a special place in my heart is Vibes in Bury. Fantastic shop. I've just checked on t'interweb and they're still trading. That's made my day that has.

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cradlerock | 10 January 2011 - 6:49pm

Record Collector, Broomhill, Sheffield

I don't know if it was ever the most 'charismatic' record store, but it has always been chock full of good stuff that even the megastores didn't stock.

It is still there, thank goodness. If HMV in the city centre ever shuts, it will be the only serious record store left in the whole city.

Now that is a sad statement to make....

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Mr Sparks | 10 January 2011 - 9:35pm

Never got on with the place,

Never got on with the place, could never work ou the filing system.

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woodface | 15 April 2011 - 11:29pm

I loved Record Collector

Used to spend my lunch hour in there. Bliss.

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Hannah | 25 April 2012 - 4:06pm

Robin's Records Norwich

Full of afghan coat wearing hippies in the mid 70s selling “progressive” albums, I don’t think they sold singles in those days. When punk took off they opened a separate singles shop, next door, if I remember correctly. Happy days of a 3 hour, round bus trip to buy one album.

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Rab100 | 10 January 2011 - 10:33pm

Norman Records

Makes a very decent stab at bringing some character to online record shopping. The weekly reviews email is a corker.

Quite happy to slag off the new releases and send out confirmation emails stating "Thanks for you order. Enjoy your crap 2/5 purchase."

In slightly related news - new independent record shop opens shocker

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/8772815.Vinyl_countdown_to_record_shop_...

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spt | 16 January 2011 - 7:55pm

Dobell's

I recall the last week of Dobell’s queuing in a half stocked shop to purchase a record for the last time. I even kept the shop bag from that day.

I am working on a project to archive the History of the British record shop any body interested passing on their stories please p.m. me.

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leon parker | 12 April 2011 - 4:50pm

Tony's on Park Street.

In Bristol, Tony's fought the good fight for a long time against the evil tsunami of nasty little shiny polycarbonate discs.

He had vinyl in spades, and always kept two racks right in front of the till with the latest secondhand acquisitions. Needless to say I checked those first every time I was in there, which was usually at least twice a week.

Riffling through four feet of newly arrived, mostly collectible vinyl right in front of the staff ensured a good rapport with them; they could see your eyes light up at the sight of that Led Zeppelin boot you'd been searching for since the days of your youth, and they liked seeing it.

Tony himself was the ideal record emporium host; always happy to chin wag about Little Feat or whatever it was you were looking for, and more than happy to let a regular like myself descend into the Stygian depths of his basement stock room (long forgotten rooms below street level like something from a Rebus novel) for a rummage.

I came back from a holiday having heard a track from Roogalator on an obscure local radio station in Scotland, asked Tony if he had any of their material in stock, and was invited to check the basement. He thought he did have some, but that it was still unsorted and unpriced, lurking in the dungeon.

An hour later, brushing cobwebs from my hair and blinking into the light, I clutched the elusive album in my hand.

"Here it is Tony, you were right, you did have it. How much do you want for it?".
"Four quid?".
"Deal".

What a gent, what a shop.

What a shame it's gone. Thanks, Tony, you made my music buying a pleasure for many years.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 13 April 2011 - 7:03pm

Isn't it funny...

...that the soulless High Street majors are now (almost) all gone and the only survivors of the digital shake-up are the indies - the ones who really love the product?

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bowbrick | 15 April 2011 - 9:38am

Revolver Records, Bristol

Just on the Triangle at the top of Park Street. Through a door and up a flight of stairs (natch) into a room where, behind a counter, often stood a pre-Massive Attack Daddy G. Only to be approached if you were convinced that your purchase would meet with approval. Otherwise it was best off heading to Rival down the hill...

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Producer Matt | 15 April 2011 - 11:54am

Seconded, almost as good as Tony's.

From time to time I used to go in there and ask the guys, "OK, I want some psychedelic magic", and just buy whatever was recommended. There is a fat wodge of my vinyl collection that I acquired that way, and it still regularly gets a spin. Prime examples are the staggeringly good samplers 30 Seconds Before The Calico Wall and Beyond The Calico Wall, along with a load of Pearls Before Swine discs, and some brilliant Group 1850 material.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 15 April 2011 - 11:09pm

Record Collector

This months Record Collector has my feature in Collector in which am trying to get interest in my development of the British Record Shop Archive. Is in the shops now.

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leon parker | 21 April 2011 - 11:13pm

Someone just sent me this

Looks pretty charismatic and it's still going!. I think I might be going to Accrington this weekend...

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Dr Volume | 22 April 2011 - 12:56am

Please report back good Doctor

I sense a future Massive mass trespass will be needed to view merchandise.

May I also draw your attention further afield to Henry's Records in Burton upon Trent, close to the railway station and in front of the Coors Brewery. www.henrysrecords.co.uk There are more photos on the website which show off the rock 'n' pop memorabilia properly as well as a list of stock. The one below only shows half of the shop and nothing of the wondrous artefacts on the walls. I will be leading a raid on the property next week to see if Henry can match past finds e.g. John Inman LP

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Beany | 22 April 2011 - 10:07am

Evocative

Quite apart from the Bowie dress cover, Vertigo swirls, Island pink labels etc., if someone turned up on the Antiques Roadshow with an array of record shop bags and paper sleeves like the ones shown above, it would grab my attention more than a battered bit of crockery.

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ranger | 22 April 2011 - 7:00am

Romford Sounds Familiar

Sounds Familiar was a large second-hand shop set in a basement in crappy North Street. In its 1990s prime it had a lot of cheap, offloaded vinyl collections passing through its racks and on a lucky day it could be a treasure trove. I discovered post-punk by buying stacks of Rough Trade/Fast Label 45s for under a fiver and in hindsight regret not forming a band just before that sound went mainstream. No funny business from the staff either. When the market for vinyl dried up the place went, but it's a local legend.

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pessoa | 25 April 2012 - 2:16pm

Martins Records...

... in Chorley, with the lovely Saturday girl, Jill. Long gone. Used to spend my dinner money on singles. I was a skinny lad.

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Formbyman | 25 April 2012 - 2:50pm

The one in Blyth in the 70s,

Which I forget the name of.

Even in the late 70s, Blyth, Northumberland was a strange economic and temporal backwater: (Still is)You got off the bus there and were immiediately taken back a decade in time. Things like punk rock and home ownership simply hadn't happened there, and it was full of longhairs in brushed denim suits. There was a little record shop in the bus station manned by one of those guys, who'd obviously lost interest in about 1970 and kept the store open on the grounds of having nothing better to do and the annual rent being a healthy goat. Most of the vinyl was still priced in pre-decimal currency, as late as 1979. You went in and he's be sat at in the back smoking a funny-smelling rollup and reading the Daily Mirror, and would reluctantly get up and flog you something if you insisted.

What this meant though, was that if you were a young post-punker with an open frame of mind, you could go in with a couple of quid and buy records by The Third Ear Band, Can, and other bands that were completely off the cultural radar at the time. It was my entry point to being an insufferable hipster/wanker.

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bathmat | 25 April 2012 - 3:34pm

Selectadisc

Nottingham. Can't speak for the London one. It had black walls and smelt of socks. It was ace.

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Moose the Mooche | 25 April 2012 - 3:39pm

Manzi's, Swiss Cottage

Anyone recall Manzi's in Swiss Cottage? How about the little stereo shop on St. John's Wood High Street in the late '60s that sold records in the back??

And, of course, Musicland (always smelled like patchouli) and One Stop near Tottenham Court Road -- those were favorites.

There was an interview once with Elvis Costello where he talked about One Stop. Somehow those American imports from the West Coast seemed so exotic.

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honkytonking | 26 April 2012 - 9:22pm

there was

a record shop in Leeds near the railway station back in the early seventies. The walls were painted black and there was a large cut tree in the centre also painted black. Can't remember the name of it (Paint ir black or doom and gloom from the tomb possibly) Mind you you could hardly see anything in there.

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hubertrawlinson | 26 April 2012 - 9:35pm
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