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What is the point of Stephen Tompkinson
Posted by woodface on 9 October 2011 - 9:55pm.
Surely he must be about the worst actor to have 'made it'. No charisma, wooden, slow talking dolt. He is shit in the shit DCI Banks drama.
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I love the Banks books
But the thought of Stephen Tompkinson as him curdles my blood.
He is a good actor though - excellent in Brassed Off. Just wrong as Inspector Banks.
Also Drop The Dead Donkey
He was very funny as Damien Day.
I'm Glad
I'm glad you wrote that and have a few ups. Apart from trailers for programmes that don't seem very appealing, I don't think I've seen him in anything else and I was wondering what the problem was. To me he's always that tall bloke in DTDD.
I will give you that, cannot
I will give you that, cannot bear him in anything else.
Surely if we're talking about wooden
then Robson bloody Green has got to be up there along with Ray Winston, Michale Caine, Sean Connery and Benny from Crossroads.
I watched Funeral In Berlin the other day
Guy Hamilton movie from 1966 I think - taken from the Len Deighton novel
very restrained performance by MC - given that he plays a disillusioned, buttoned-up character in the movie: Harry Palmer
in one scene however he confronts a traitor, in his hotel bathroom in Berlin, and after the initial arm-up-the-back-ouch, he just stands there, scaring the living crap out of anyone in a five mile radius with sheer bloody menace
and he achieved this by not appearing to do anything at all ... myself, i think MC is a rather good actor
*bad Caine impression*
The secret is....don't blink
Done this one before..
but for Connery/Caine doubters I give you:
Connery: The Offence, Wind and the Lion, Robin and Marian, The Name of the Rose, The Russia House...oh and he wasn't a bad Bond.
Caine: Get Carter, Sleuth, Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, Quiet American and of coures all the Deighton films of which the above-mentioned Funeral in Berlin is the best.
They were also both in the Man Who Would be King...required viewing for all boys.
For Connery...
... The Hill needs to be mentioned. It's brilliant.
Caine has been fantastic in many films, he's a cracking actor. Alfie, Zulu, Educating Rita, Hannah and her Sisters, Children Of Men, he's just great.
But what about good actors
playing wooden people?
Perhaps he just lost his way.....
http://youtu.be/isM1aKgV0zM
Sorry, tried to embed but.....
Here you go...
Maybe it's very good acting to appear so wooden? Not that he's wooden in this clip.
(To embed just copy'n'paste the long link under share/options)
Yeah, he's wooden
but he's no Charlie from Casualty.
worst actor to have 'made it' = Nicholas Lyndhurst
A no charisma, wooden, slow talking dolt who got lucky applies to Monsieur Lyndhurst much more.
I much prefer Tompkinson - for Brassed Off and Drop The Dead Donkey alone.
And I can't recall anything of merit Lyndhurst has done outside of Only Fools ( and no that doesn't include Goodnight Sweetheart )
Butterflies?
Definitely not
though that might just be me and my hatred for all Carla Lane sitcoms
Carla Lane sitcoms....
...
Oh dear....
Point of order
Carla Lane doesn't write sitcoms. I think they are just sits.
Hmm.
"No charisma, wooden, slow talking dolt."
He got to shag Dervla Kirwan, though. Lucky get.
Similarly, I never understood
how Peter Davison got so much high-profile work back in the day.
No comparison
Davison's an exceptionally gifted actor - sincere, sensitive (even when the budget was collapsing around him in Doctor Who), capable of terrific light comedy performances in the likes of All Creatures and A Very Peculiar Practice, and also, as a TV performer, technically precise, a guy who always ensures he knows where the camera is. The old 'wet vet' tag is hugely undeserved.
*slaps Wardour round head with Very Peculiar Practice DVD*
Series 1 obviously, still waiting for complete series box set.
Davison is a top actor. I also liked him in Campion, a Sunday night 1930's detective series. Think Brian Glover was his sidekick.
I adored "A Very Peculiar Practice"
but I put that down to it being a very strong ensemble piece which happens to centre around Davison's character. (And yes, what the hell is happening with the complete DVD? It must be a couple of years since they first announced it.)
Maybe it's typecasting, but Mr. Davison always seems to play exactly the same character. Not that that ever hurt the likes of Sid James.
(By the way, if there's an actor I consider more wooden than Peter Davison, it's his "All Creatures" co-star Christopher Timothy. I think this is why Robert Hardy felt the need to over-act horrendously in that series.)
Apparently its out today
but no one seems to have any stock as yet. Network DVD lost a lot of stock in that Sony warehouse fire so that may be the reason.
Thanks, Dogfacedboy
I'll take a look at Amazon.
Hmm.
"I think this is why Robert Hardy felt the need to over-act horrendously in that series."
Has Robert Hardy ever not over-acted in anything he's been in? I was once seated near him in a restaurant in Winchester as he boomingly discussed whatever in ringing, projected thespian tones. Bloody annoying. The manager politely asked him to keep it down a bit. He went off on one, asking who was offended by his conversation. Everyone in the restaurant basically turned round and said "We are!"
He very huffily put a sock in it.
Sorry, anyone prepared
to be the 'dish of the day' at the height of his fame has my undying respect:
Yes that is Peter Davison under a lot of rubber....
Wild at Heart
Wild At Heart is excellent. Mrs Vandelay grew up in South Africa, and watching the show and hearing all the accents always makes her cry.
I can't watch Wild At Heart for that very reason
With his hangdog face and slow delivery I find him unwatchable. But he gets so much work.
Nice guy though, which goes a very long way.
I like him in this.
Not read the Banks novels, so perhaps that helps.
Banks/Rebus Dramatizations
Both unfilmable, both have to be shorn of any sort of edge, intrigue and depth to meet Sunday evening audience expectations. Should have been left well alone. Tompkinson is not Banks. The girl who plays Annie is so far removed from the character in the book as to be laughable. Ken Stott was a terrible choice for Rebus, whereas John Hannah was ok but 15 years too young.
Tompkinson is a decent actor - as noted above, was great in Drop the Dead Donkey and also in the excellent, but oft forgotten, "All Quiet on the Preston Front".
Big fan of the Rebus and Banks books
The TV dramas were never going to match up. I'd agree that Hannah looked vaguely like how I imagined Rebus to be, but Tompkinson is nowhere near the Banks that I see.
What's the point of posts asking what's the point?
An actor can only work with the material he/she is given. I love the Banks books and Tompkinson doesn't look like my mental image of Banks. But neither does anybody else. It seems a bit harsh to slag off an actor for not matching one's mental image of a character.
I thought Ken Stott was perfectly cast as Rebus. Hannah was far too pretty.
But I think what we're all saying is that, generally, the books are better than the telly. But, like films based on books, they are different things and should be judged on their own merits. No 90 minute TV programme is going to capture every nuance of any half-decent novel.
Kind of agree unless....
the question is "What's the point of Simon Cowell" but that would lead to me getting a tad irrate and going into one about the cretinous bastard and his fuc.......... (I told you!)
My point is that he cannot
My point is that he cannot do proper acting, his version of gravitas is just slow talking.
Rebus
Got to agree Ken Stott was Rebus, Ian Rankin must have seen Stott when he set about writing the Rebus series. Hannah is a very good actor but was never going to fulfil the characterisation of Rebus.