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What is it with this 'Uni' word?
Posted by tim tunes on 1 December 2009 - 2:02pm.
Everyone of a certain age goes to 'Uni'. Parents or relatives of said students also embrace the fact that they are at 'Uni'.
As a term it covers any further education establishment from the traditionally more rarefied Universities - Oxbridge, Russell Group - to the old Polytechnics, now to any type of Further Education establishment. Everything is a 'Uni' and everyone goes there. If you are doing a sports science diploma at a local college of further education - you are at Uni just the same as everyone else.
Not sure really why it grates - apart from obvious accusations of snobbery - but it does
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Well...
I first heard it used in Neighbours, a good 20 years ago. And, like that irritating habit of going up at the end of a sentence, I suspect that it may be a vernacular tic that we may have borrowed from Australia.
EDIT: Not to say that I have any issue with this. The 'high end register', as I believe it is called, sounds perfectly normal to my ears within, say, an Australian or Californian accent. In an English accent it sounds faintly ridiculous.
Naybors
I've heard this "Neighbours" point made in relation to this word more than once, and probably with good reason - it certainly seems to have been involved in popularising it.
But that doesn't affect the fact that me, members of my family and loads of people I was at school with all called it "uni" before Neighbours existed. In a box somewhere I have school magazine evidence from about 1984.
D x
"social networking site"
Why does this have to be put in front of Facebook whenever its mentioned on the news or in a paper?
Do they really think we're that thick. I'm fairly sure everyone will know what it is by now.
Not just me then
I kept quiet because I thought it was just me. I assumed that it was just lazyness. Mind you I used to say I was at college when I was at university in the 70's mainly because I thought it sounded less pompous - probably why it irritates me when people say they're at Oxford rather than at university. If someone tells me they're going to Oxford, I'll assume they're off on a shopping trip.
I agree
I went to University in the mid 1980s but often refer to it as "when I was at College" probably for the same reason.
Yes, I tend to habitually say "College"...
...at which point I'm increasingly finding people thinking it's when I was doing A-levels (I point out that I did them at a place called "School"!).
My wife and Mum
(not the same person!) always ask me how I've got on at 'college' today. I hate the 'Uni' derivative, but sound awfully pompous when I say "It's University, actually".
College
http://www.belushi.com/college
always wanted one of these shirts ...
Oxbridge
Unless I am mistaken, graduates at Oxford and Cambridge go "down from" Oxford/Cambridge and 6th form leavers heading that way go "up to". Not sure if this applies to other Uni's does it?
Neighbours to blame for all our ills
Uni definitely comes from Neighbours.
I think for a lot of kids, having grown up watching these soaps, all their troubles, however minor, are vitally important, deserve everyone's undivided attention and must be treated with utmost seriousness, just like everyone does for the kids in these teen soaps. No wonder kids and teenagers today are so dramatic. They know nothing else.
Push someone out of a window, say to them 'You deserved it, you bitch' as they lay dying, and wait for the EastEnders doof-doof drums to kick in.
Real life comes as a bit of a shock.
Indeed
And you have to wonder just what effect the ubiquity of porn is having on young people's expectations of sex.
Crikey
we're a cheery lot today.
I can it "uni". I tell people "I went to uni". The reason being, it's a contraction of the word "university". Languages evolves, people abbreviate words. My parents call it "uni" too - it's no big deal
The place where I failed to complete my course
Evolved from a College of Higher Education into a Uni.
Just think, Fraser
If you'd have completed that course, you could have been junior vice-deputy sub-assistant for a middle manager in a small accountancy firm in the Home Counties. Instead, you get to work for a great music magazine and have a job we all dream of.
I, on the other hand, completed my degree, and now sit in an office all day wishing I was working for a music magaz... oh, hang on... it's all gone wrong somewhere.
Oh.
Worse
I'd have been a teacher, probably (and I don't mean to disparage teachers at all - it's just that I would have made a spectacularly bad one).
Narrow escape mate,
believe me. Blessing in dis guys.
I have a theory...
about why it's irritating:
Twenty years ago or so "uni" was only used by people who hadn't been to university. And that wasn't irritating to those who had precisely because it was a way of identifying and preserving the difference. Now everyone uses it, that distinction has been lost.
It's as if posh people stopped pronouncing "Ralph" as "Rafe". Then, posh people would have lost one of the ways in which they distinguish themselves from the rest of us. And that, I would imagine, would irritate some of them.
Is that what posh people do?
I've never noticed that.
I'm talking *very* posh
like "Rafe" Fiennes - or Ralph Nathaniel Twisleton-Wykeham-Fiennes,as he was christened, than whom there are very few posher.
When I were a lad...
Oxford & Cambridge were 'the University' to which one 'went up'; all others were just 'university' to which one 'went'.
Going to Oxford, one "went up to the university"
Going to Sussex, one "went to university"
Times change I guess.
'Uni' is what young people do…
… either shortly before or after they 'go travelling' (ie go to Thailand and Australia).
Victoria Wood:
"Bloody Tony Blair. Puts a poem up in a bus shelter and calls it a university."
Uni/Juvie
I used to live with a group of Americans who for the first few weeks thought I was talking about "Juvie" when I said "uni". The problem with this being Juvie is Prison for young offenders...
they were quite relieved when they finally plucked up the courage to ask what I was in for and I said Plant Biology...
-They call Uni "School" though, which is equally confusing but without the criminal connotation.
Yeah, I dun free bladdy yeers uv that crap.
Facking Ecology wannit? Wiv bladdy Chem too. Dead 'aard it was. Fuckin' four nine o'clocks each bladdy week. Bastards. The screws never let up. Miss a tootorial, you was facked. Jeezus Mary an' Joe.
Similar
When was at university I told people I was 'at Durham', you could tell they half wondered what I'd been in for and how come I was out so early. This proved surprisingly useful sometimes.
Maybe because everything is a University now ?
There are quite a few institutions that are now Universities that were Technical Colleges 25 years ago - Glasgow Tech is now Caledonian University, Paisley Tech is now The University Of The West Of Scotland, Dundee Tech is (I think) now the University of Abertay.
And the ones that were Universities then (Glasgow, Strathclyde, Dundee, Aberdeen, etc) are all still operational.
Bollox
I went to a Poly not a bleedin' Metropolitan University, or Met.
Flippin eck, even my hometown Bolton has a Uni now and signs all over the town pointing you in the right direction. Mind you, if it's good enough for a sprog of Tony Visconti...
'Uni' grates with me...
but not as much as 'cuzza' being used as a substitute for 'curry'.
Varsity
Here in NZ, people say "varsity" as a generic word to mean further education after school. Not sure how that came about - but it will probably have something to do with rugby I bet.
I went to art school
but have an older cousin who studied at Glasgow university in the 70s, we as a family (and AFAIK the rest of Glasgow) always referred to it as the 'uni'.
PS. I've never watched Neighbours