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what do you use to back up your data?

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Hi all. I'm looking into buying an external hard drive to back up my music and other stuff. What do you, massive member, recommend? I'm a mac user and am looking for something with 1tb of space. I've read wildly varying reviews of a number of brands on Amazon and would like to hear your thoughts.
Thanks in advance.

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I is Mac too

and I badly need a new back-up, money is tight so I'll be interested in replies

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James Blast | 24 October 2009 - 10:44pm

I'm also a fawning Mac disciple

I've been using a 500 Gig Western Digital HD for nearly 2 years. No problems, whatsoever.

*The one I bought is still available on Amazon. Mixed reviews, but that's the nature of the beast. There's also a 1TB Seagate with mostly satisfied users.

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billyous | 24 October 2009 - 11:07pm

I got the...

...640Gb Western Digital version about 6 months ago. A couple of weeks ago it stopped working....it was actually the power supply unit that had packed in. Ebuyer dont sell it anymore but they told me to send it back and I'd be refunded. Problem is....I'd lose all my data. Did a bit of research and it seems this power pack is shit. I bit the bullet and bought a replacement/compatible power pack. The actual hard drive seems to be the business though.

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bigsteviecook | 25 October 2009 - 4:40am

my 250G Seagate

is reporting probs, I can still get data off it but can't write to it which is a shame as there's over 100G available

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James Blast | 24 October 2009 - 11:50pm

I'm using

a Maxtor 1TB hard drive to store all my music - had it for about a year with no problems so far.

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KDH | 25 October 2009 - 12:14am

LaCie

is OK

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chabsy | 25 October 2009 - 12:29am

Drobo

For a simple solution then theres not much of a difference between Seagate and WD for external drives. LaCie drives are good and often add different interfaces, but tend to be a little more expensive and as they do not manufacture the internal hard drives themselves, tend to use those from Seagate / WD etc etc. If you are on a Mac its worth paying a little extra to get one with a FW interface (FW800 is great if you have a newer Mac) - I find that FW gives a better sustained transfer speed than USB2. Also go with more storage space than you will need - if you are looking at 1TB then get 1.5TB / 2TB. Its surprising how fast you fill it up (especially if storing video).

The main problem with external drives is that whilst they tend to be a little better in terms of reliability (as they are not in constant use) they are still disk drives and can still fail and lose all your data. Whilst reliability is pretty good these days and the manufacturers give a 5 year warranty, thats little consolation if its your data that goes down the pan....

Personally I use a Drobo (www.drobo.com). This is basically an external box that standard 3.5in drives can be slotted into and configured as a RAID 5 array. The beauty of it is that (a) the data is protected - if one drive fails, you just swap it out and (b) its expandable - when you run out of space, you can swap the drives for newer / larger ones without losing or having to transfer your data (as long as you do one at a time). It holds up to 4 drives so you can start with 2 and expand as needed etc etc. You can even mix different drives / capacities. I have mine set up with 4 x 1.5TB drives which gives me 4.5TB of usable space.

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chrisf | 25 October 2009 - 4:43am

How noisy is your Drobo? Do

How noisy is your Drobo?

Do you have your main itunes library stored there and if so how is the access speed? Any other configuration tips?

Cheers

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tim tunes | 3 November 2009 - 2:05pm

Drobo

Not noticed that its particularly noisy - its hidden away under the desk, which probably helps.

Yes I have my main iTunes library on there - about 3TB worth of music, movies and TV shows (its been a long year ripping those DVD's). Its connected via FW800 to my iMac which is connected direct to the Airport Express. I have two Apple TV's running via WiFi (802.1n) off this and video streams smoothly to both (you get a 20 - 30 seconds delay whilst it bufffers to the Apple TV but thats all). Access from the iMac has never been an issue (guess the FW800 helps here) and it will easily cope with copying large files to the Drobo whilst playing music via iTunes etc

As to the exact access speeds etc, that may be on the website...

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chrisf | 3 November 2009 - 4:02pm

Thanks, think i may be

Thanks, think i may be purchasing

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tim tunes | 3 November 2009 - 5:02pm

Do you care about noise?

I've just been investigating external drives for my Mac and I was pleased to discover that you can now put together a 650G 2.5 inch firewire drive. Why is this a good thing? Simple, noise. No external supply, no fans no drive whizzing faster than you need it to. There are downsides, you can't get a terrabyte one and they cost a bit more per gig but it's nice to have the choice. I'm actually planning to use mine to permanently expand the capacity of my Mac Mini because I just noticed that it only has 1.5G free!!!

Always remember that there's a difference between a backup and an archive. Generally you don't need such a big drive for a backup (which I would count as keeping your constantly changing data) and an archive (for things like a music, video, photographs).

Having said all that, if you use a laptop (or laptops) I think the best solution is a NAS drive sitting in a cupboard somewhere because it's effectively always connected to your PC which is a major incentive to backing up - remember a backup drive is only really a backup drive if you actually get round to using it!

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JohnW | 25 October 2009 - 7:09am

1TB / 2.5in External HDD

You can just get 1TB 2.5" external drives.......

http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/external/freeagent/freeagent_g...

They are not yet available as internal laptop drives (the 1TB ones use 4 discs inside and so are thicker)

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chrisf | 25 October 2009 - 7:27am

Only USB2!

I was specifically talking about drives with a firewire interface though as the OP is a Mac user.

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JohnW | 25 October 2009 - 8:21am

It'll come......

... I work for a certain disk drive company that is referenced in the above thread. The FW / USB versions are usually a little later than the USB only one.

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chrisf | 25 October 2009 - 11:12am

Disk formatting

I just thought of one more thing that I'd be interested in someone shouting me down about the foolishness of the notion but I always make sure that I do as much of my backup as possible on a FAT32 formatted drive. I know that there are practical as well as technical limitations in doing this but if my Mac or Windows PC died and I need files I want to be able to plug my backup into any PC available (OSX, Windows or Linux) which would be a problem if I had an HF+ or NTFS formatted backup drive. I only use native formatting if I think I'm going to need to store files over 2G.

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JohnW | 25 October 2009 - 9:29am

Ipod

I've backed up my music (around 11,000 tracks) with external hard drives three times. And three times the hard drives have become corrupt.
I have a feeling it may be a problem with my very old, and very slow, PC. I had to restore to factory settings about a year ago and it has become painfully slow and laboured since.
I keep two iPods up-to-date, so I'm hoping they act as a back up, particularly as my PC is close to death!

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Native | 25 October 2009 - 11:28am

DVD

All hard drives die eventually, usually when you need them most. Anything you really care about (especially photos) should get burned onto DVD as well as whichever kind of backup drive you go for.

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dr.memex | 25 October 2009 - 12:40pm

Hello clouds..

Has anyone taken the plunge and dared to back things up online and started working cloudwise? Being a pitiful Windows bod and having sufered at the claws of nefarious viruses a couple of times, I'm getting tempted.

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Lenny Law | 25 October 2009 - 9:58pm

Not what a cloud is for.

Why should you suffer from a virus any less if you store stuff on a far away server? Data is data is data. It will be the same 0's and 1's wherever its stored.
The two major advantages of "cloud" computing (I hate the term) are that you can get at your data wherever you are (as long as you have a decent Internet connection) and your data doesn't get destroyed by fire, flood or theft at your house. The first of those can be sorted by a properly set up NAS drive at home.

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JohnW | 26 October 2009 - 7:17am

Backup? Data?

Why nothing! What could possibly go wrong?

All my photo's are on CD's and I shall be hoping Santa will help me invest in something large and external. My old PC went 'Phut' a couple of years ago and it was a nightmare.

You possibly heard the swearing.

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Beezer | 3 November 2009 - 2:18pm
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