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What Are You Wearing?

Burt Kocain's picture

Clothes, they say, in their boring fake-medieval voices, maketh the man. In the spirit of getting to know of what we are each of us maketh, therefore, I urge the massive to detail their sartorial splendour as they are reading this (no cheating, please, and no shy omissions).

Let me get this thread unraveling, then:

Genuine Hawaiian shirt, twelve years old. Ukes n' blossoms on black ground, coconut buttons (made OF coconut, you fool, not whole coconuts, which would be too large to pass through any reasonable buttonhole and also drag the chemise severely out of shape.)

Billabong surf shorts with broken zip, bought second hand for under a quid at local market. Age unknown.

Oh god ... are these underpants REALLY eight years old (carbon dating by wife at time)? That's probably flattering them. The SHAME.

... aaaaand .... that's it. A simple ensemble, not without a certain raffish charm.

You?

1

given the time of this thread

should you not be wearing your pyjamas ?

Or are you in the hemisphere that is in the south.

Moi ? Suit -I'm at work.

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Junior Wells | 4 November 2011 - 3:38am

"Suit"?

Details, man ... details! Single-breasted? Worsted? Pinstripe? Shirt n'tie combo?

(Yes, I am in "that Hemisphere")

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Burt Kocain | 4 November 2011 - 4:09am

black harold boots -superior

black harold boots -superior to RMs
black pants black jacket( I am from Melbourne after all )
charcoal grey declic shirt

no tie- it's friday

that's all your getting or it gets just a little too weird.

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Junior Wells | 4 November 2011 - 6:36am

Yes, thank you ...

we have the picture very clearly. And it's in B/W.

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Burt Kocain | 4 November 2011 - 8:23am

A threadbare blue stripy dressing gown.

I'm *quite* the catch.

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Bob | 4 November 2011 - 7:57am

Hauntingly

lifelike image. One I will have in mind when I read your posts.

Come on, let's have some more - you're all perfectly willing to detail your breakfasts but not what you're wearing? Why the bashfulness?

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Burt Kocain | 4 November 2011 - 8:26am

What I didn't tell you...

...is that I'm on the tube.

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Bob | 4 November 2011 - 8:35am

That's one way

to get the carriage to yourself.

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Burt Kocain | 4 November 2011 - 11:13am

That's all very well

until the bloke standing in front turns to you and says

"Excuse me, is this Cockfosters?"

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mojoworking | 4 November 2011 - 11:25am

Entire internet

waits for rimshot line ...

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Burt Kocain | 4 November 2011 - 11:30am

"No, Poppet.

We've only come as far as Arsenal."

(Best delivered in a Roger Allam voice.)

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Wardour | 6 November 2011 - 6:25pm

Decadent Friday

the fluffiest dressing gown I've ever owned and matching slippers.

Oh, and a contented cat!

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renkadima | 4 November 2011 - 8:29am

Vizzed up

Hi-viz everything over ASLEF polo shirt, Adidas trackies, GettaGrip steelies, Chester City bobhat. Hi-ho, hi-ho, it's off to work I go.

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thecheshirecat | 4 November 2011 - 1:10pm

Must be tough

being Dean of St. Paul's these days.

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paulwright | 7 November 2011 - 9:41am

Hungover Friday.

Grey t-shirt festooned with Marvin Gaye lyrics, Diesel jeans, black socks, Timberland boots, me specs, me watch, a selection of silver tomfoolery and a huge whiskey induced hangover.

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Pencilsqueezer | 4 November 2011 - 8:59am

Suited and booted

In preparation for a meeting with one of our regional managers in Eastbourne this afternoon.

Yes, I am Living the Dream.

Suit is navy blue, three-button, single breasted. No pinstripe.

Shirt is also blue, button-down Oxford. No tie.

Black slip-ons of indeterminate provenance.

No adornments other than a wedding ring and understated Tag (Heuer, not Identity) on my right wrist.

Underwear is brash and candy-striped and I will look a twat if I get run over by the proverbial bus.

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Paul Waring | 4 November 2011 - 9:17am

Eastbourne?

Me too. Time for a pint after your meeting?

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Captain Underpants | 4 November 2011 - 11:28am

Bugger.

There would have been, had I picked this message up in time.

Sorry Cap'n - would have loved a pint, but am now in That Southampton with Mrs W, and no doubt you are in That London with the Massive.

I felt London teasing me with its presence as I drove round the M25 this morning.

And isn't Eastbourne a pig of a place to get to?

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Paul Waring | 4 November 2011 - 8:13pm

Today I will mostly be wearing

a pink t-shirt and a smile ☺

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donttellhimpike | 4 November 2011 - 9:25am

Crikey ...

.

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Burt Kocain | 4 November 2011 - 9:32am

Well

you did ask...

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donttellhimpike | 4 November 2011 - 9:55am

Paint splattered

polo shirt, paint splattered jeans, paint splattered clogs.

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Jim M | 4 November 2011 - 9:34am

Levis 501's

Blue striped Wappen shirt, burgundy Loake long wingtip brogues. I'm off for a drug/alcohol test for possible new job with Amazon. Seriously wondering if I'll pass!!!

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Steerpike | 4 November 2011 - 9:47am

A drug test

for Amazon? Blimey. I conduct drug tests on the crews of oil tankers but I didn't realised they were testing people for internet retailers. Surely British industry would collapse overnight if people who drank a bit and smoked the odd jazz Benson were to be denied employment.

Good luck!

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Jim M | 4 November 2011 - 10:21am

You would not believe

the other tests and paperwork which formed the assessment. You would think I was applying for a weekend in West Berlin before the wall came down.

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Steerpike | 4 November 2011 - 2:46pm

You should try...

...the tests for the Child Support Agency if you think Amazon's are intrusive and onerous

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Toffee the Cat | 4 November 2011 - 8:30pm

Last time...

...someone asked me that question, it was followed by the sound of heavy breathing.

I hated to do it, but I had to take out a restraining order against Helen Mirren not long afterwards as I recall.

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mojoworking | 4 November 2011 - 9:55am

A bit garish

... now I see it in harsh office light: midnight blue moleskin suit, pastel-pink shirt, bright yellow tie, black and grey hooped socks, dark brown shoes. I'm hoping that I am staying on the right side of 'clownish'. It looked much more staid in a half-lit bedroom.

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Gatz | 4 November 2011 - 9:57am

Brand new black loafers

Diesel jeans, red v-neck pullover from Hennies, Help! t-shirt, Nixon watch, wedding ring and silver Cladagh ring. Wish I was wearing a suit though....makes me feel more grown up and successful ( and less corpulent) when I do.

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Vorgongod | 4 November 2011 - 9:58am

From the top

Ted Baker stripey shirt, it's glory totally undermined by a blue jumper I'm wearing on top of it.

Uniqlo straight leg blue jeans thankfully covering (I think) M&S cotton boxers.

Thick-ish socks and a pair of beige Panama Jack lace up boots.

All of which is currently very damp after having walked through a fucking Berkshire monsoon earlier on my way to work. So I shall look a soggy sack at the mingle tonight. Nice work so-called BBC Weather (who I blame entirely)

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Beezer | 4 November 2011 - 10:07am

Its Friday...

in the office its - M&S Chino's (beige colour), Bradley long sleeved cream crickety type top (all of £5 as a promo item on the ECB online store), Timberland shoes.......

Shortly going home where the M&S chinos will be swapped for shorts and the shoes for sandals if we are not staying in for dinner tonight....

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chrisf | 4 November 2011 - 10:10am

Auction house attire

Airwalk Trainers, Ecko jeans, NZ Warriors hoodie. All bought on the cheap from eBay.

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Fraser Lewry | 4 November 2011 - 10:15am

Not as cheap

as I bought them from the local dengue fever clinic, though, Fraser. You did give them a rinse?

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Burt Kocain | 4 November 2011 - 11:04am

Oh yes

They all received a thorough scrubbing.

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Fraser Lewry | 4 November 2011 - 11:17am

Still,

if you start scratching yourself, set fire to them. Can't be too careful.

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Burt Kocain | 4 November 2011 - 11:22am

Off to the newspaper library....

.....so it's blue jeans, long-sleeved dark blue collarless shirt and, to show how hip and up-to-date I am, my newly minted Beach Boys' 'SMiLE' badge.

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ranger | 4 November 2011 - 10:16am

I am now dressed.

Working from Starbucks this morning (Citrix remote access, how do I love thee? Let me count the ways) and am now in a pink Threadless t-shirt under a check shirt under a blue hoodie under a brown casual suit jacket. Indigo Gap boot-cuts and black New Balance trainers. Also my customary black-rimmed glasses and - as I'm still walking - my MacBook on my back. Val-da-ree.

The look is Fat Unsuccessful Deluded Faux-Hipster, and soon ALL the kids will be "rocking" it.

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Bob | 4 November 2011 - 10:21am

Mm.

Nice.

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Burt Kocain | 4 November 2011 - 11:08am

I'm at work, so

Navy blue pinstripe suit (single breasted, 3 button)

White cotton shirt.

No tie.

Navy blue socks.

Black Loake shoes.

A hint of Kiehl's Original Musk.

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Leedsboy | 4 November 2011 - 10:29am

You

devil, you.

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Burt Kocain | 4 November 2011 - 11:09am

Cornish suit...

...ie Seasalt zip-up top over a t-shirt of a tiny bloke looking up at gigantic trees with the caption 'Respect Your Elders', 501s, M & S boxers, bamboo sox, FatFace shoes. Not that it's any of your business.

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mikethep | 4 November 2011 - 10:30am

I think

it's everyone's business now, Mike. And we're all a little worried.

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Burt Kocain | 4 November 2011 - 11:15am

Dapper is...

...as dapper does. WTFTM.

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mikethep | 4 November 2011 - 11:35am

I am wearing

Wellington boots and a pair of oven gloves.

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katyg | 4 November 2011 - 10:36am

Works

for me. Every time.

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Burt Kocain | 4 November 2011 - 11:09am

Are the oven gloves

on your hands?

I am merely worried that 'you'll catch your death' walking out like that.

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thecheshirecat | 4 November 2011 - 1:05pm

Are the oven gloves

from Joy Division?

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RS65 | 4 November 2011 - 3:33pm

Inappropriate for today's London's downpours...

But in the spirit of dress down Friday, today Matthew, I am wearing

Brown and white checked shirt, red t-shirt underneath, brown jeans and brown desert boots.

Have been told I look like a Womble.

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Six Dog | 4 November 2011 - 10:42am

Nothing but

my cologne.

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Five-Centres | 4 November 2011 - 10:48am

At least

it's yours this time.

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Burt Kocain | 4 November 2011 - 11:11am

Gap Jacket

-Gap Jacket: dark green, epaulettes, very nice.
-Light Blue Shirt: short sleeves (Debenhams).
-Black trousers (though the FPO reckons they're dark blue). Cotton, but in the style of jeans.
-"Casual shoes".

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kidpresentable | 4 November 2011 - 10:57am

I'm sorry,

but "Black trousers (though the FPO reckons they're dark blue). Cotton, but in the style of jeans" - aren't these, well, "jeans"?

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Burt Kocain | 4 November 2011 - 11:19am

They're not black

They're very very very very very very very dark blue.

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Six Dog | 4 November 2011 - 11:22am

Ri-ight ...

fine ... (BACKS AWAY SLOWLY)

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Burt Kocain | 4 November 2011 - 11:26am

To be jeans

To be jeans, I thought that they would have to be denim?

Whilst Wikipedia is as often the fountain of lies as much as it is of truth, it opens it's 'Jeans' section with "Jeans are trousers made from denim".

It's more that they are cut like jeans, rather than like what you would consider "smart trousers".

(They are possibly very very very very very very very dark blue, but I only think in basic colours.)

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kidpresentable | 4 November 2011 - 1:19pm

Denim's cotton, though, innit?

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Bob | 4 November 2011 - 2:51pm

Sort of

All denim is cotton, but not all cotton is denim...

That sounds like some kind of proverb.

*Update: Ms Presentable has just read this and exclaimed "they're clearly not black!!!"

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kidpresentable | 4 November 2011 - 10:50pm

Unofficial Wilco skull design tee-shirt (blue)

... blue Wranglers, grey socks slippers, M&S skids, silver chain with eagle pendant bought in Goa, wedding ring, Maurice Lacroix watch on left wrist and me specs.

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Neil Dyson | 4 November 2011 - 11:07am

You're the second

person to sport the stylish new "me" specs.

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Burt Kocain | 4 November 2011 - 11:17am

Rubber gimp suit

and a dog collar.... oh no thats later

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herringbrother | 4 November 2011 - 11:08am

Black jeans

with a dark blue shirt (button down collar); black and blue socks (slightly damp); black shoes (also slightly damp).

I feel a bit of a mess - autumn rain and cycling do not make for a smart commute.

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Phil Pirrip | 4 November 2011 - 11:18am

In addition to

a look of intense concentration, I am also wearing a tan chenille jacket from M&S, a pink and white striped Austin Reed shirt, a maroon Next tie, pale brown trousers, brand unknown, (and I'm not taking them off to check the label), red, black and white hooped Pringle socks, which looked OK at dark-o-clock this morning, and brown Farah brogues. I am red/green/brown colour blind, so although all this seems OK to me, bar the socks, others may have a different view. The GLW didn't comment, so I passed her muster. Looking at my choice of brands, I do feel as if fashion is passing me by, but WTF, it's workwear.

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policybloke1 | 4 November 2011 - 11:29am

Work attire

Black, single breasted, M&S public sector middle manager's suit, for that is what I am; and, anyway, what's the point of wearing a 'label' suit to sit behind a desk all day?

White shirt with a subtle blue check, probably from M&S too. I tried to look at the label and now have a crick in my neck.

No tie - I only ever wear a tie if my not doing so will be "an issue" for someone or other.

Black slip-on shoes.

Black socks and navy boxers from Next, I think.

Gold wedding ring. Longines watch, which, annoyingly, has started losing time and may well have to go back to the jewellers. Blue charity band in support of the Foundation set up in support of my lad's best mate who died earlier in the year. Poppy in lapel.

I've had to lock my office door to keep the hoardes of female admirers at bay...

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Red Umpire | 4 November 2011 - 12:52pm

Crockett & Jones

I'm wearing my Crockett & Jones monk-straps. Goodyear welted, of course. All the way from Northampton.
Model: Monkton. Colour: Chestnut. Size: 10½.
Quite definitely the finest pair of shoes I have ever owned. I could just sit and look at them all day. Sigh.

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duco01 | 4 November 2011 - 11:46am

you might wanna

put some pants on too...

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badartdog | 4 November 2011 - 7:24pm

Saint Hubbins

Well, I could, but then I might not have the protection of Saint Hubbins, who was, of course, the patron saint of quality footwear.

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duco01 | 6 November 2011 - 6:13pm

You will also be wearing a fragrance, Duc..

Which one today?

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Lenny Law | 5 November 2011 - 12:22am

They really are beautiful !

They really are beautiful

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Gurney-Slade | 6 November 2011 - 4:36pm

On Fridays, I arise late...

After micturation and drenching my face in ice cold water - impromptu exfoliation courtesy of a particularly abrasive towel - i don my clothing before breakfast (smoked mackerel and beetroot on rye, with black tea, if you must ask). These clothes are black briefs (M&S), black socks (M&S), black jeans (M&S), a black v-neck t-shirt (Gap), a slovenly cardigan (dark blue with a hint of grey piping at the sleeves, M&S) and a pair of low, brown Trespass walking shoes, thin of sole these days, bought in a sale from some retail outlet years ago in what i believe young people and women call a mall. Today's short-cut overjacket is more than a decade old - a black Daniel Hechter jerkin of robust manufacture. When I leave the apartment, young people point and laugh, commenting on my ample middle and unshaven face. They shout, 'You look like Ricky Gervaise, you fucking twat.' Unfortunately, i lack the Twitter followership of Mr Gervaise so cannot describe them as 'haters' to the populus in general. Then i go about the business of the day, occasionally removing a fine mackerel bone from inbetween my teeth.

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Glenbervie | 4 November 2011 - 12:05pm

Dude!

Bonus points for "micturation" and a handful of gold medals cut from beer can labels for everything else. Bravo.

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Burt Kocain | 4 November 2011 - 12:24pm

Bunking-Off Work Friday

Ancient royal blue Adidas trackie-bottoms. Navy Blue Antibalas Afrobeat Orchestra t-shirt. Toast crumbs on chin.
Nothing more to see here.

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Mike_H | 4 November 2011 - 12:19pm

"Ancient royal blue"

- is that like, dark blue? Or dark, dark, dark blue?

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Burt Kocain | 4 November 2011 - 12:26pm

From the bottom up we have

- Black M & S lace up shoes (tied them myself with a nice double knot)

- Black short socks with a blue pinstripe hoop effect (good job you didn't ask yesterday otherwise it would have been my Barcelona FC socks)

- Off white grundies (M & S. Were white once, fresh on this month)

- Dark Grey/off-black (charcoal?) M & S suit trousers (nothing special, straining waistband. Jacket, with small poppy pin badge worn proudly is in a cupboard across the office. Don't start......).

- Pale lilac short sleeved work shirt (M & S. Gets hot in our office and its warm too hence the lack of sleevage).

- Fox & Chave purse silk tie, in a rather fetching green/yellow/purple/blue modern abstract design (ideal for eating lunch at the desk as anything dripped just disappears into the funky design).

- Tag Carera watch on my left wrist - ridiculously expensive 50th gift a couple of years back from the fragrant Senora Toro.

- A thin black/white-ish string band around my right wrist. (Tied around by the wonderful staff as we left our holiday hotel in Bali at Easter as a reminder to visit again. Still there 7 months later - my sole concession to the hippy lifestyle).

- My normal Specsaver bifocals.

And, rather scandalously, under that lot I'm completely naked.

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el toro calvo grande | 4 November 2011 - 12:33pm

Forgot about my ring

burning and puckered..........oh, not that one?

While gold, plain design, wedding, worn on the traditional finger. Rather scratced and battered, raher like the rest of me.

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el toro calvo grande | 4 November 2011 - 1:07pm

relaxed

Black cotton socks (M&S), Calvin Klein black underpants (he doesn't want them back), Levi 501s, black plain Fruit of the Loom T-Shirt over a grey plain Fruit of the Loom T-Shirt and my late Uncle Steve's Red Henry Lloyd fleece (the man was nuts for Caravan, I wear his fleece with pride, in his memory).

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James EB | 4 November 2011 - 12:35pm

Drying out

Having been forced by the GLW to go for a short hike over the fields in a torrent of biblical proportions I am now sitting after a mug of hot steaming tea and several choccie biccies in a red Lowe Alpine walking top (dry), navy (not black) M & S fleece jog pants. Also adorning my wrist is a Nautica Titanium wristwatch accompanied by my new Movember charity wristband.
Work later so may pop on jeans and a T shirt to go to the office, no customers to see you so no dress code, or dress sense chips in the GLW!!!

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theglasscyclist | 4 November 2011 - 12:47pm

Black 501s gone at the left knee

I SHOULD wear a belt (I'm a lanky skinny git)
Stretchy black undercrackers, recent gift allegedly CK probably not
Thick walking socks (I work at home a lot and can't be arsed heating the whole house)
Timberland t-shirt (blue)
Jumper of reasonable merit and estimable TOG value given by inlaws last Crimbo, I think its Fatface but the label is AWOL
Mocassins rendered redundant by dog sleeping across my feet
Cheap Longines watch, gold wedding ring (my ring has actually nearly worn away)

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FakeGeordie | 4 November 2011 - 1:26pm

Today, I will mainly be wearing ... brown

Brown shoes, brown trousers, brown jumper - but a snazzy brightly coloured loosely draped scarf to zing it up a bit.

Looks fine for "friendly but professional" wear for work, but not sure how it will fit in when I go straight on to the Magazine gig tonight. Thought about bringing something to change into, but then realised I was too old to give a monkeys about what other people at gigs think of me (plus, if I take off that scarf, I'll blend into the background as soon as the lights go down).

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millymollymandy | 4 November 2011 - 2:54pm

It's Dress-Up Friday.

I'm wearing a short black dress with a green belt, plus black tights, black boots, mascara and a big smile. I've even brushed my hair and everything.

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Hannah | 4 November 2011 - 5:20pm

Centre

parting??

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el toro calvo grande | 4 November 2011 - 6:06pm

Just off centre.

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Hannah | 5 November 2011 - 1:23am

A monochrome set

Black trousers, grey and black top with black top underneath and black socks and boots. Black watch and grey and silver earrings.
Oh, and a black and grey cagoule for when I have to go out - its been chucking it down here today !

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Janice | 4 November 2011 - 6:25pm

*waves*

I told you the reason I love this blog is 'cos you can mention The Monochrome Set and no-one looks at you like a weirdo, saying "who ...?"

My sister's off to York this weekend - I'll tell her to take a brolly.

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millymollymandy | 4 November 2011 - 6:37pm

Black

Black surf shorts (picked up for 8 quid in Tesco this summer); black Quiksilver t-shirt with arms and neck cut off; black hoodie (casually unzipped); black flipflops (no socks, natch)

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LuxExterior | 4 November 2011 - 8:16pm

Lovely, scruffy, old white dressing gown!

I'm shortly about to go & get dressed up to go out with my old pal.

Will fill you in with which outfit I decide to wear in a wee while.

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andielou | 4 November 2011 - 8:35pm

On a plane earlier

and comfort primary driver - Smedley cotton vest and Merino Wool Shirt. Ancient 501s and Tod brown suede loafers. An old Ralph Lauren cashmere blazer to keep the chill out off plane

Now,an evening at home sans Light and Lids - raggedy old Hot Tuna surf top and blue cotton F&M track pants.

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Sheev | 4 November 2011 - 10:14pm

Interesting day to ask.

Funeral of FPOs granny today, hence my non-appearance at the mingle. So it was, from bottom up..

Black Oxfords, from Jones.

Black Ralph Lauren socks, kex and three-button single-breasted suit.

Purple striped Turnbull & Asser Shirt, RL Purple Label tie.

Had to put Best Stuff on out of respect and all that.

Now black 501s, Crew rugby shirt and same socks and undies as earlier.

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Lenny Law | 5 November 2011 - 12:29am

90% of my clothes are from OXFAM

green and black block print Ghanian shirt. 501 khaki jeans - top button bust, so I put on a belt. Remu Uomo slate grey pin stripe jacket, single breasted three buttons, with yellow paisley silk handkerchief. Shoes off now - but I was wearing a pair of tan dealer boots. Socks, boxer shorts are yer actual personal buys from M and S.

Nobody cares by now probably.

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BigJimBob | 5 November 2011 - 12:41am

Wouldn't know Remu Uomo

if he bit me on the nose. But
"top button bust, so I put on a belt".

BJB, you are my style guru! Have an up.

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thecheshirecat | 5 November 2011 - 9:44am

A quick re-cap, then ...

Black is the new black here, obviously. (When not the new dark, dark, dark, dark blue).

M&S benefit Massively.

A lot of you dress for something called "work", which I had to wiki.

A bit of bling here and there. A sense of scent.

A general subdued sartorial classiness, relieved by bursts of Jackson Pollock, Timberland browns and surf baggies.

Occasional sauciness.

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Burt Kocain | 5 November 2011 - 12:47am

Tonight, in a Land Down Under

we're rocking a very dodgy work-charity-do t-shirt, accompanied by Patagonia shorts and my beloved Birkenstocks. It's a balmy Saturday night, 28 degrees and we've just opened the sparkling Shiraz. Here's to your very good collective healths.

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Dadwardo | 5 November 2011 - 10:37am

bipperty-bopperty hat

peacock suit
new boots 'n' panties.
well, it is Saturday.

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badartdog | 5 November 2011 - 10:44am

Sunday pub wear

John Simons Chinos, black socks
black turtle neck (Smedley)
Tan Bass Weejun loafers
..and ready for a pint.

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Gurney-Slade | 6 November 2011 - 4:39pm

Errr

Black socks. Pants. Superdry T-shirt.

Ladeeeez?

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clivetemple | 6 November 2011 - 4:58pm

Since you asked

- Dark grey and lime green socks
- A pair of dark blue Ted Baker jeans
- Undercrackers, obviously
- A Topman t-shirt, which features a man riding a dinosaur, exclaiming, "To The Disco!" (the man, not the dinosaur)
- A burgundy Superdry hoodie
- Fossil watch with brown leather strap
- Black-framed D&G glasses

Shamefully, pants and socks aside, this is exactly what I wore yesterday too.

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Joe R | 6 November 2011 - 5:07pm

So

that's a dark grey sock on one foot and a lime green one on the other, then*. And you wore neither pants nor socks yesterday. *

("I go by thickness" - Steven Wright)

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Burt Kocain | 7 November 2011 - 9:30am
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