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We're celebrating the 60th birthday of the 45 on our new podcast

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ImageIt's 60 years this week since the invention of the 45 RPM record so we got out the gramophone for a bit of a record party. Mark Ellen, Kate Mossman and David Hepworth gathered round a steaming turntable to play hot biscuits by old favourites plucked at random from a mysterious bag o' wax, wonder whether Sting has finally lost his looks while Terence Stamp still has his, advise readers on how best to approach a Triggerfish and remember the early days of the Sony Stowaway.

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I have a marvellous book...

...called Lady With a Spear, written by a women called Eugenie Clark. It records her early career as a marine biologist when she was studying Plectognaths, which are beaked tropical fish with spiny skins.

It is from this book that I learned that Triggerfish will give you a nasty bite and are best admired from a distance.

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backwards7 | 2 April 2009 - 1:56pm

Dear David, Mark, Fraser and Kate

that was a really lovely podcast - thanks very much for taking the time to do it. Just listened to it whilst walking the dogs on a beautiful spring evening, have got 2 weeks off to spend with my better half and my newborn and I feel so ridiculously happy right now. All the best to ya.

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badartdog | 2 April 2009 - 7:16pm

Ian Hunter will be *70* on 3rd June this year...

I didn't know that, I googled it.

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Patrick Crowther | 2 April 2009 - 8:03pm

Ian Hunter without shades

See the back sleeve of the vinyl compilation "Shades of Ian Hunter".

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Seamus | 3 April 2009 - 12:41pm

About 8 weeks Older

Than Terence Stamp (22 july 1939)

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Sour Crout | 3 April 2009 - 3:45pm

But a wee correction regarding the Mott The Hoople reunion

Ian Hunter has certainly continued gigging ever since they split up, but not, as you claimed, with any of the other original members, so this is a genuine, first-time-since-the-70s reunion. It sounds pedantic, but it's an important point to me, and I suspect to many others who are going to seem them in October: We never saw them first time around. They may well be not as good as 30+ years ago, but it'll be better than not having seen them at all.

I had tickets for what turned out to be their final tour circa 1974, but the Edinburgh date was among those cancelled when Ian Hunter took ill. Then I did something really awful: A schoolmate had missed out on tickets before they sold out and had nagged me non-stop to buy my tickets, increasing the price he offered every time. You know what's coming, don't you? When I heard it was cancelled, I waited until next time he asked and said "Oh well, go on then" and accepted way over the odds for them.

And I wonder why I was bullied.

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Lucky Tiler | 6 April 2009 - 5:24pm

Great to hear some 45s...

and in particular, 'Let 'Em In'. What a tune that is... I love the piano part, it's so understated and beautiful. Proof (if any were needed) that Paul McCartney made some *brilliant* records after The Beatles split. Time for a Wings reappraisal, methinks...

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Patrick Crowther | 2 April 2009 - 8:54pm

You are so right.

He made some brilliant music in the 70s, not much in the 80s but has been on great form in the last decade.

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dai | 2 April 2009 - 9:54pm

Macca is like...

Peter Cook - acknowledged while he was still alive but only with certain reluctance. Then one day he'll be gone, we'll realise he was The True One and we'll miss him like hell.

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Archie Valparaiso | 3 April 2009 - 11:39am

Hallelujah to that Archie

Was watching the Wingspan(if you will)rockumentary the other week and it prompted me to revist those early solo/Wings albums. There's some cracking stuff in there.

Like you say, we take Macca for granted - especially given the variable quality of his material - but when he's gone we'll remember how good he really was.

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stimpy | 3 April 2009 - 4:07pm

Dead right...

Was listening to 'Maybe I'm Amazed' the other day and thinking exactly the same. Some of the less-heralded tracks on Band on the Run too ... 'Bluebird', for example... the colossus that is 'Live and Let Die'... if it hadn't been for the Beatles, how celebrated would McCartney be as an individual? In fact, to be more specific, if it hadn't been for Lennon... No wonder he's twisted inside...

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ageing hipster | 3 April 2009 - 11:37am

Post-Beatles, there is no contest between Lennon and Macca...

John Lennon's good stuff - one needs 'Plastic Ono Band' and 'The John Lennon Collection'

McCartney - considerably more, even if one only counts his records up until 1980.

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Patrick Crowther | 3 April 2009 - 7:34pm

The Bank of England

The crow coin press

Keen-eyed observers may have noticed the heraldic images of crows and magpies that bedeck the exterior of the Bank of England.

Both species of bird are commonly sighted within the bank’s vicinity, where a number of small cubby holes, spread out along the walls, allow them to deposit shiny metal items, in return for food pellets. The collected metals are subsequently pressed into coins, the size and thickness of an old ten pence piece.

Crow coinage has no tangible value and is not considered legal tender. Its hypothetical value is used when calculating the nation’s gross wealth and therefore has an impact on the economy and on government spending plans. In 2005, a report estimated that 20% of the UK's monetary assets are accounted for by crow coinage. The report went on to consider the effect that a decrease in the corvus population might have on the economy, especially in the nightmare scenario of a bird flu epidemic.

More recently there have been attempts by the EU to abolish crow coinage on the grounds that it presents a distorted picture of the UK’s economy and confers an unfair advantage on the country.

The wartime reserve vaults

A throwback to 1914, when the public were encouraged to donate leather, cloth, scrap metal, cardboard and wood, to assist with the war effort. An additional vault was opened in 1989 to accommodate plastic materials.

In 2007, the Bank of England announced that a Eurofighter Typhoon warplane had been constructed exclusively from materials stored in the vaults.

Bounder’s Hole

Until 1992, employees of Bank of England were bound by a strict code of conduct that was intended to promote sound judgement and a level-headed temperament. The reach of this code extended into banker’s private lives, governing their leisure activities and even their interactions with their families. Failure to abide by the rules could lead to imprisonment in Bounders Hole - the bank’s private jail. Prisoners were expected to fulfil their usual daily commitments to the bank. However, at the end the working day, instead of returning home they would be escorted back to their cells.

To modern sentiments, the bank’s 20 page code of conduct seems unusually draconian. Innocent pursuits such as the flying of a kite could earn you a jail sentence of up to six weeks. Flying a kite up to its highest height (defined by the Bank of England charter as “a distance exceeding the earth’s atmosphere, or to the fullest extent of the kite’s string”) carried an additional four week penalty.

It’s all a far cry from 2009, where the prison sentences of white collar criminal are a tradable commodity and rogue financier’s debts to society represent an expanding market.

Threadneedle forest

Not a real forest, but a blanket term used to describe the potted Dwarf Oak trees that are dotted around the interior of the bank, each under its own growing lamp. The wood pulp is renowned for yielding a good quality paper that is used in the production of banknotes. In 1964, there was a minor diplomatic incident after a species of voracious, paper-eating beetle entered the bank in a bundle of French currency and made its home in some of the trees.

The Telegraph Room

It has been a tradition since 1918 for the first two clues of in The Daily Telegraph crossword to be provided by senior figures in the establishment.

Currently the clue for One Across is written by the head of the Bank of England. The clue for One Down is penned by the head of MI5. The clues from the bank are sent by email from the telegraph room, which, according to a senior figure, is “a glorified cupboard containing a computer and an old Bakerlite dial telephone.”

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backwards7 | 3 April 2009 - 7:06am

The Hat Exchange

PhotobucketThe unprecedented industrial and financial might of the British Empire in the mid-19th century had one unforeseen consequence for the Bank of England.

Such was the flood of incoming wealth, particularly in the form of gold bullion, that in 1881 the Bank's concerns about security forced it to offer a clandestine service, about which little was known until very recently.

The Hat Exchange is believed to have worked like this. Bullion was traded not, as is popularly believed, in the form of ingots but rather smelted into flattened doughnuts, like Saturn’s rings. These disks were then sewn into the brims of bowler hats by a vast host of milliners at the service of the Crown, working from heavily guarded premises disguised as sweat shops in nearby Spitalfields.

Upon arrival at the Bank, the City gent would head for the Hat Exchange (whose secret entrance was the third stall on the left in the gents' public conveniences on the ground floor) and either hand over a "laden" hat to make a bullion deposit, or receive one in exchange for a "dummy" hat, to make a withdrawal.

Cunningly concealing the nation's riches from the Kaiser's spies in this way was not without its setbacks, however. By the 1920s, the foundations of London Bridge were sinking at the rate of an inch every eight years. The bridge had been steadily weakened by the accumulated strain of thousands of laden gold traders - or "bulliers", as they were known* - crossing the bridge at precisely 8:46 every morning. Although the bridge was widened and the foundations were reinforced to ease the load (according to the official story, to relieve traffic congestion), it was clear that the whole structure would have to be replaced, and it was eventually sold off to the Americans.

With the advent of the armoured security van in the 1960s, the Hat Exchange - always a rather troublesome procedure - became obsolete, and the once-emblematic bowler hat gradually disappeared from the City landscape as inexplicably as it had apparently arrived.

The then-imminent closure of the Hat Exchange was cheekily referenced in the James Bond film Goldfinger (1964), in the scene where the Korean assassin Oddjob is killed by his own laden bowler hat in the vaults at Fort Knox.

(* The words "bullier" and "bowler" are both derived from the same root: the Old French boillir, to boil down.)

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Archie Valparaiso | 3 April 2009 - 2:45pm

Visit the BoE museum

It's free!! The Bank of England has a great little museum. We stumbled upon it after the Lord Mayor's Show one year. Worth an hour of anyone's time. Only open during the week and the (very) occasional weekend though.

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Phil Pirrip | 3 April 2009 - 3:58pm

Any free samples?

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stimpy | 3 April 2009 - 4:09pm

Regrettably not

.

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Phil Pirrip | 3 April 2009 - 4:15pm
stimpy | 3 April 2009 - 4:18pm

I owe you a space

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Phil Pirrip | 3 April 2009 - 4:36pm

'ere Backwards...

Have you been eating those big white mints from the urinals again?

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stimpy | 3 April 2009 - 4:17pm

As Harry Hill would say.....

How do we discover who writes the best post, Archie or backwards?
Fight fight fight!

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Retropath2 | 3 April 2009 - 12:18pm

Digital storage

Regarding the difficulties of keeping a digital archive up to date, I was reminded of a story about the German government-owned TV station (our own version of the BBC, or at least they like to think so...). A friend of mine was doing research for a documentary sometime in the early 90s and discovered that the people there couldn't play back the archived news broadcasts from the 70s that they had transferred to fancy digital a few years before. Turned out that they didn't have the equipment anymore.
Luckily they could later replace their useless files - the East German secret service had recorded the daily news on trusty magnetic tape, and these reels are the source of the clips you can now see on the station's official website.

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Mychael | 3 April 2009 - 2:59pm

Try accessing a copy of the BBC's much vaunted

Domesday Project from 1985. You'll need an LV-ROM player - plenty of those still hanging around :-)

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stimpy | 3 April 2009 - 4:14pm

Great podcast

One of the best. Thank you.

I am a bit puzzled, though, as someone whose chosen intoxicant is alcohol, as to why anyone would take more than the first snort of something that caused pain, streaming eyes and bleeding. Was there an upside?

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Thomas the Rhymer | 3 April 2009 - 4:18pm

Dennis Hopper

More of a fox than Terence Stamp, in my opinion. I'd certainly hate to see the portrait in his attic.

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Mark Gould | 3 April 2009 - 7:42pm

Is it just me

or did the podcast end suddenly when they were talking about the Bank of England? Did I miss something after minute 38?

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alankngal | 4 April 2009 - 10:56am

Not not really...

It faded out (very slickly, Mr Lewry) at 39:21 with 'No Woman, No Cry' as a musical 'bed'. Mr Hepworth announced he had a social engagement with a Mr Collins, and Mr Ellen and La Mossman went back to watching helicopters circling the Pentonville Road.
Mr Lewry went out to buy a triggerfish baguette.

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SirTerence | 4 April 2009 - 8:08pm

I still have...

...4 mini disc player/recorders. The 2 hi-fi units I have each have one and I've 2 portables....couldn't tell you the last time I used any of them.

I got them when they first came out as a means of digitally recording cds from the library rather than putting them on cassette. The portable ones were much smaller than a discman. In fact, I think they were out before the discman.

I put their demise down to cd burners on computers coming right down in price and blank cds costing a few pence each. I think a pack of 5 blank mini discs still costs around £6.

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bigsteviecook | 4 April 2009 - 3:07pm

I blame the ipod

I think the demise of the minidisc is also closely linked with the rise of the ipod. The minidisc was just beginning to be a useful portable music option (even standard discs could squeeze about 5 albums on) when along came the ipod which was about the same size (volume wise) but could hold lots more CDs (mind you to start with, they were more about 4 times the price).
I have some very good (well better than they have a right to be) live recordings that I did with my minidisc recorder in my pocket and a microphone clipped to my shirt.

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JohnW | 5 April 2009 - 10:29pm

I have a lovely sony

minidisc player. I never use it, but I'm reluctant to let it go. Just because it looks so, well, nice.

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Futurenoir | 5 April 2009 - 3:58pm

The fundamental problem with the minidisc....

...was the company behind it, Sony, couldn't be seen to promote its key quality, which was that it was a brilliant home copying tool.

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David Hepworth | 6 April 2009 - 8:06am

...and, as so often with Sony, they tried to keep

the technology proprietary. You'd have thought they'd have learned from the Elcaset and Betamax but, no, they still wanted to own Minidisc.

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stimpy | 6 April 2009 - 8:48am

Mini disc user

I may be wrong but I do believe that Danny Baker uses mini disc for his vast and immeadiate sound catalogue some of which is definately home recorded.

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Lunaman | 6 April 2009 - 7:45pm

You are

not wrong

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SirTerence | 7 April 2009 - 11:35am

Thanks for using my question BUT...

You missed the opportunity to use the phrase China 'sodding' Crisis.

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RaeEarl | 6 April 2009 - 9:37am

Sony Stowaway

The British Electric Foundation did a cassette-only album called 'Music For Stowaways' during that brief period before the Stowaway was officially renamed the Walkman - must have been 79/90?

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stimpy | 6 April 2009 - 4:32pm

Sod the Maldives

I've dived with Triggerfish in a wreck off Chesil Beach in Dorset. Believe they swim up from the Med for the summer. Mind you, I know where I'd rather have seen them.

By hook or by crook I'll be the last (again) in this thread.

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andyhealey | 8 April 2009 - 4:29pm

I demand an apology!

All of those faders are at zero and there's a big red lead going into the desk from some sort of electronical device, not from the Dansette. This picture is faked! I demand a refund of my licence fee....oh, hang on...

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skirky | 8 April 2009 - 8:49pm

Picture

Guilty as charged, kind of. I forgot to take the picture during the recording, so this was snapped after everything was switched off. The dansette, however, was recorded "live" on the room mics, not through the desk.

The electronic device, technology fans, is an Edirol R-09 digital audio recorder.

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Fraser Lewry | 8 April 2009 - 9:19pm

Nice bit of kit.

Does it do Dobly?

ps - is it just me or is Lord Hepworth of Islington turning into Elliot Gould?

http://www.vh1.com/sitewide/flipbooks/img/movies/people/g/gould_elliott/...

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skirky | 8 April 2009 - 10:01pm

Maybe it *is* Elliot Gould

A new Cameron Crowe movie set in the offices of The Word - a sort of Islington Almost Famous?

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stimpy | 9 April 2009 - 9:42am
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