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Wednesday 23rd June. What's gonna happen?
Posted by Beezer on 21 June 2010 - 2:45pm.
Not entirely sure why I'm posting because I have to confess I'm not all that fussed whether England win or lose.
But. It might be fun to predict the score and scorers.
So, I have consulted the oracles and fingered the droppings of small animals and I predict that:
England win 1-0.
Gerrard will score the only goal again within the first 20 minutes and England will lock the whole game down shutting out Slovenia until final whistle.
What say you? ABE flights of fancy welcomed from one and all aswell!
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Interesting
I'm not saying England won't win 1-0, but do you really think they'll try and park the bus for 70 minutes? One of the problems with England is they're not as good as they think they are and, as such, are likely to underestimate Slovenia. So, I don't think they'll see protecting a slender lead as an option.
There's also the fact that the way they're playing, I'm not sure they can protect a lead for that long, especially against a fairly slick passing side
Excellent point
Well made, by someone with a rational take on the game.
I on the other hand haven't got the first bloody idea.
But yes, I feel a 1-0 coming on.
If England lose without scoring..
they'll depart the World Cup having scored but one goal
Not great, particularly if you invested in a HD system to enjoy the opening match on ITV
Ooohhh
the Algeria game in HD. I'm glad I didn't succumb. Too much detail.
If you watched on ITV HD
like us, you missed the goal anyway. Adrian Chiles apologised for "an interruption in coverage". Grr.
From someone with an irrational take on the game:
I predict Capello will unveil a shocking new tactic which will allow Heskey and Rooney to break through the resolute Slovenian defence:
I'm sticking to my original
thoughts before the tournament started 1 - 0 to England with a goal off Crouchys boney arse in the 89th minute.
Slovenia 1 England 1...
I got the Brazil / Ivory Coast score right last night, so let's see if I can do it again...
Slovenia 0 England 3
Wayne Rooney (2) Joe Cole (1)
A nation rejoices
as England come flying out of the traps, all guns blazing, metaphors mixed and goal-scoring boots primed and working. The Cole's Joe and Ashley, the latter bombing forward like a man possessed, lay on chance upon chance for Rooney and Crouch who each net twice in the first half hour, despite the Slovenian keeper performing heroics to keep the score down. Then - and this is where it gets a bit surrealistic - Fat Frankie puts an absolute belter on target and makes it 5 at half time. Meantime, Upson plays a blinder in defence, not letting those pesky Slovenians so much as sniff an opportunity, and James in goal starts doing handstands to stave off the boredom. England take their foot off the throttle in the early second half but Rooney wants that hat trick and gets it. Defoe comes on for Crouch and gets the 7th. A nation rejoices and our status as WC favourites, at least in our own minds, is restored.
Then we lose 2-nil in the last 16, Terry red carded and Rooney in a strop.
England - 0 : Slovenia - 5
Rooney and Lampard sent off by half time.
Terry walks off after 10 minutes of second half.
Capello already on board 737 for Trieste before the final whistle.
Beckham in tears on the touchline.
England fans engage in massive vuvuzela riot.
FA expelled from FIFA.
Nation takes up hurling.
And...
Peter Crouch does his stupid dance after believing he's scored, but doesn't see that the offside flag has been raised. In his annoyance at the goal being disallowed he does one final robotic jerk and crocks his back, leaving him frozen in a bizarre position for the next 2 months.
Classic post this
Strange way to start a post which is entirely about whether England will win or lose. I'm one of the millions who was so dismayed by Friday night's performance that I pretend I couldn't care less. Wednesday afternoon I shall be in a pub, screaming at a TV. Let's not fool ourselves.
I try
No I'm really not bothered. But I do love the Massive flights of fancy that sometimes kick off given the right prod.
Whatever happens, I think we can expect to see
an awful lot of 'applauding the fans'...
We're not good enough to go out (yet)
Danny Baker suggested on his show on Saturday that England aren't playing well enough to go out yet - basically his theory is that England only go out of tournaments once they've started to play well. And if you look at 1986, 1990, 1998 & 2002 he may have a point. Though admittedly we didn't produce a single decent performance last time round.
So I'm predicting that we will beat Slovenia on Wednesday, either with a fantastic performance, or we'll somehow manage to scramble a result followed by a decent showing in the last 16. And then we'll go out.
Baker also said that England were so bad on Friday, there was a "grandeur to their mediocrity". I liked that.
History suggests
that England win the final group game
do OK and get past a mediocre team in the last 16
we all get excited
go out in the quarters despite a "brave" and "gutsy" performance, possibly down to 10 men, and probably on penalties
As Danny Baker said on his FiveLive podcast - "I've seen this movie before"
Mystic Meg...
I'll go for 2 - 0 to England.
Friday night left me shaking my head, pretty much for the next few days. Being a fan of lower league football, where expectations are relatively low (please, no last day limp over the line to safety this season lads) you feel you are prepared to see dross served up by the team you support. But Friday was, well - inexplicable...
Anger seemed pointless, in the circumstances.
2-1 Slovenia We can then get
2-1 Slovenia
We can then get on with watching some decent footah without dealing with inexplicable hysteria
Speaking as someone...
...with little interest in the outcome, I'm going to say that England are going to fuck it entirely, and come out with either a 0-0 or a 1-1. My only reason for this belief is that everyone reckons they're going to scrape a win and get through, as per, and an upset feels about due.
England will win
But it probably won't be a great performance
Capello will ditch the 4-4-2, put Joe Cole down the left and Gerrard behind Rooney (Lampard dropped).
Upson will play well, Lennon will do nothing (again!) and be replaced by Wright-Phillips. Rooney will finally score, then lose the plot. Replaced by Crouch who scores the second by virtue of standing in the right place when the Slovenain goalkeeper drops a cross.
Prediction 2-0
Given the report about the bloke looking for a bog
who wandered into the maw of doom (a.k.a. the England changing room) the other night, I'm expecting at least fifteen hundred interlopers to be prowling the tunnel after full time on Wednesday night, looking for the same lumpen group of overpaid prima donnas slouching and sweating in their designer trackies, but this time toting ill intent.
What's going to happen ?
I better remember my wedding anniversary or I'm a dead man!
I hope they win 3 nil
Restore some pride and play up to their ability. I will then forgive them last Fridays performance. That's how football works for me.
I predict
1-1, and a red card awarded to a frustrated Terry when there's ten minutes left of the game.
Also, tomorrow "capricorns will have a romantic Tuesday if they choose to pursue romance. Otherwise practically nothing will happen."
Straight from the reliable pages of my daily tabloid!
No romance so far...
...still, the night is young.
I'll be round my mates house with a couple of bottles of something, biting my nails. I can't not care no matter how hard I try.
at about 5pm
the odds on favourite to replace Fabio Capello will be named as Roy Hodgson.
With hindsight
Roy Hodgson should never have left Supe... Oh, never mind!
Olden...
but golden.
Third time out this week!
(Oooer etc.)
On Wednesday I shall be watching Pearl Jam on a comp. in Belfast
Well, it can't be duller than the football. Can it?
P.S. I am hoping that Eddie announces the Eng./Slov. result from the stage
Song for England
Macy Gray - Do Something:
Get up, get out
And do somethin'
Don't let the days of your life pass you by
You got to
Get up, get out
And do somethin'
How will you make it if you never even try?
Get up, get out
And do somethin'
Can't spend your whole life tryin' to get high
You got to get up, get out
And do somethin'
Given what Capello's been saying ...
... I'll predict he'll drop Terry, stick to 4-4-2 with Upson and Dawson (boomps-a-daisies) as his central defence pairing, start with SWP, Lennon, Daddy G and and Lumps in the midfield, and play The Hesk and The Roon up front... Slovenia will get a goal just before half time ... England will equalise with ten mins to go then the Slovs will score a second ,,, 2-1
Surely he must have been watching the games ...
England's full backs can't play with an out and out winger because they both want to get forward so much. So no SWP and no Lennon in the start XI.
Milner, Barry and Lampard in the middle, which would make Lampard feel more at home in a 3 like he has at Chelsea.
Joe Cole, Gerrard and Rooney in attacking roles, Gerrard just in behind and Cole with a free role.
Just do that Fabio and Slovenia won't know what day it is. Piece of cake this football coaching thing.
Dead right jed
Carrick rather than Milner but I think you've got the answer there. It's £6m a year; can you start on Thursday?
Tend to agree with you Jed
Despite having a fantastic first half of the season for us Lennon just hasn't been the same since he got injured. SWP shouldn't get anywhere the team ahead of Joey Cole.
I'm not convinced by Gerrard playing up front with Rooney, he seems really out of sorts at the moment, but given the alternatives of Crouchy or Heskey (too slow and wasteful) or Defoe (off form and not the quickest of football brains), I think it's worth a go.
I don't think Capello will have the guts to drop JT, despite Terry behaving like a sulking adolescent. Again, Dawson's had a good season for us but I wouldn't trust him to start such an important game playing alongside Upson who doesn't deserve his place in the squad in my opinion.
I've got a feeling we'll win quite easily on Wednesday night and then anything can happen - you need a bit of luck, a bit of confidence and a few people hitting form at the right time. The Italians came good in 2006 (they probably will again).
Look at Chelsea - we absolutely murdered them at White Hart Lane towards the end of the season - it ended up 2-1 but it should've been 6-0. They never looked back after that and won the double.
The Algeria game was awful but I don't think it'll be repeated.
Talking of SWP
I can't get to see the match
due to work, so it will be an absolutely brilliant game. England will play with the style and flair of Brazil and will beat Slovenia 3-0 or 3-1.
I'll watch the next game and we'll limp out to a last minute tap in after a moment of hesitation and confusion between David James and John Terry.
Booked Solid for Parents Evening
May be a mixed blessing, easier on the nerves.After last Friday though, not optimistic.They played like they were pissed.Terry has a lot to answer for, has his own agenda, it may be too late.
It's all about the Beeb
Since 1982 England have won just 30% of World Cup games shown on ITV, but 62% of matches on the BBC. So everything's going to be alright :-)
Whatever happens tomorrow
England need to make changes after this World cup. Firstly sack Capello and start again with an English manager who can speak English. His first job should be to drop Terry permanently. His second job should be to ensure that Gerrard and Lampard never play in the same team - It doesn't work. Next he should ensure that he does not take any players who have not fully recovered from an injury to a major competition regardless of their reputation. When you are restricted on number of players you can take where was the sense in taking King, Ferdinand and Rooney? We did it before with Bryan Robson. Will we ever learn from our mistakes??
My forecast is we will scrape a win tomorrow and draw next game losing on penalties and will return home unbeaten over 90 minutes in any game and the press using that as a crumb of comfort.
I will be stuck in an 8 hour traffic jam just outside
Glastonbury trying to get in to see it on the big screen.
breaking news.......
it's just been announced the England team are to get a new coach......
it will be picking them up from Heathrow airport on Thursday morning!