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Weak ass bullsh*t...
Posted by Adman on 25 August 2009 - 8:48am.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8219482.stm
According to the Big British Castle news website:
"The shadow home secretary, Chris Grayling, has compared parts of the UK to The Wire, a US television show which portrays inner city drugs and violence."
Whether Chris Grayling has really watched or understood The Wire or not, he had better hope this reference doesn't come back and bite him in the ass once he takes office.
It's not just about the drugs Chris!
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maybe he hasn't
got as far in his boxsets as the season that covers politics?
Never give a politician
the benefit of the doubt! :-)
I just saw the headline
"Parts of Britain like The Wire" and thought it was a report on local popularity of the series.
That's what made me
read it!!
Parts of Britain like Eastenders
Parts of Britain like Jam & Jerusalem
Parts of Britain like Coronation Street
Parts of Britain like Last of the Summer Wine
are all ridiculous, but far more plausible.
...
My manor's turning into Balamory.
He’s a silly billy isn’t he
The Home Office minister Alan Campbell assures us in that BBC report that "since 1997, crime has fallen by 36%. Overall drug use is at historically low levels and robust action is ensuring drugs are being taken off the streets. Drug use has fallen since 1997."
Everything’s fine.
Now that is like
The Wire...
Not denying there is a problem - I just object to politicians grabbing onto the nearest popular cultural reference. No city in Britain has a comparable problem with the many blighted American cities.
While I kind of agree
I suspect there are some in parts of Manchester, Glasgow and Liverpool, not to mention London, who might disagree. I don't think our cities are quite that bad. Yet.
Sure
I taught in an area of Brum where hard drug use was endemic. It is tragic. I just think it is a wrong, lazy analogy to reach for. It seems false and frivolous - what we need are politicians who are really serious about this stuff.
Wouldn't be too sure......
There are entire estates in diverse places such as Middlesbrough, London, Glasgow, Barrow, Manchester, Brighton, Newhaven, Newcastle, Birmingham, Liverpool (especially around both football grounds) and Swansea that are very reminiscent of the western in Baltimore. I'm convinced the Kensington and Kirkdale districts of Liverpool provided the location shoots for Hamsterdam..........
Isn't this all to do with...
...Dominic West going to Eton with David Cameron & still being chums? And thus all the Tories have made a note...
It just gets worse & worse...
Time to get back in my bunker and bolt the hatch!
Didn't Dominic West
Didn't Dominic West disparagingly denounce Cameron as Tory boy in an interview in the Guardian - I don't think there is any love lost.
Just another politico prick trying to look current.
Surely, it's just another silly season piece of reactionary nonsense from the right to grab headlines. Remember yer man telling people in the North to evacuate it and come to London this time last year?
Makes sense
Silly season, indeed.
Classic diversionary tactic
.. to draw attention away from the party's deep divisions on the NHS.
new
We had an incident the other day where 8 hooded men set up a checkpoint armed with sub machine guns and a rocket launcher in a main street in a village. The police stood back and watched.They handed out leaflets warning people not to talk to the police. As usual these thing dont get reported on the mainland. They didnt get the money for these guns selling roses outside nightclubs. If this isn't like the Wire, what is.
it was on newsnight last
night and the chief commissioner was grilled on it. But i do take your point.
Are you in Meigh, Painty?
Are you in Meigh, Painty? Just returned from a wedding in Craigavon and noted that while we were there, there was also some ridiculous Dad's Army style nonsense up in Galbally too.
Straight outta Bodymore, Murdaland
He might be closer than you think. Did anyone else follow the story recently about the 2 young would-be gangsters senetenced for life for the murder of Ben Kinsella (brother of a soap actress who used her celebrity to really drive this case through the media)
The Police spokesman described how they were very low down the food chain and were desperate to be gangsters so they were busying themselves trying to get criminal records. In a Wire stylee the Police recorded these 3 guys in the back of the police van as they discussed their defence tactics. The Times Online had a transcript of this discussion. It was straight out of the Barksdale gang primer. See here http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6477898.ece
There was also a linked article from a social services commentator (possibly in a Bunny Colvin / David whatisname scheme) talking about the attitutes they experienced from the local youth when questioned about their aspirations. He said they talked about drugs, gangs, money, respect etc or if it all went wrong prison and an early demise. Nobody talked about getting a qualification, a job, a "normal" family life. All pretty scary to be honest
In yet another Wire allegory in this case, a local old-school villain who was in jail let it be known that he thought the indiscriminate killing of innocent members of the public was giving the manor a bad name. As Omar would say "A man gotta have a code" Once this was known, one of the 3 perpetrators immediately gave himself up and asked for solitary confinement
I'm sort of beginning to regret my OP
I don't doubt there's a problem. Have seen it first hand. That's not really what I'm questioning. I'm questioning the integrity of drawing an inaccurate parallel between what happens in our cities and what happens in the US, in a drama.
OK when you are wrong
You are wrong.
I hold my hands up. I'm wrong. It's worse than I allow myself to believe.
I think he's bang on
With a growing number of directly elected mayors in Britain, Britain's cities are ever more like the Wire. Boris Johnson's profligate shagging is an eerie reminder of Tommy Carcetti repeatedly getting his bone on. And Torbay mayor Nicholas Bye recently went "clean shaven, like in 2000" anticipating a close run campaign - Clarence V. Royce style.
Grayling is on the money, Ted Heath will soon be back at number 10 and an era of prosperity will unfold.
tory t**t
what a pillock!
moss side does have it's problems and so do places like salford, whythenshawe, kenny in liverpool but to compare them with a tv show like 'the wire' is simply ridiculous
what's he going to say next that strangeways prison is going the same way as the shawshank redemption?
That's my instinct junkiecosmonaut...
But I'm getting a confused picture from the Massive... I am beginning to wonder if I don't appreciate the full extent of the problem.
Maybe I should let this go but:
Is Britain really like the Wire:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8219693.stm
Anger at Tory Wire comparison:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8221231.stm
Anyone else think it's BS?