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Some say it's sport and politics, some say it's politicians and truth - for some it's lager and tomato juice - but for me, it's pop and politics that just don't mix.
Don't get me wrong - Rock against Racism, Rock the Vote and the like are worthy causes. And clearly pop/rock has been an agent of change for good or ill - and usually the former - in society and culture.
It's just singers or bands who get a bit finger pointy, preachy or holier-than-thou that tend to inflame my allergy rather than ignite my passion to join hands and make the world a better place.
So is a good political song a possibility? The only one that I can think of is the one below - Shipbuilding.
It works by contrast - the fragility of expression serves to underline the strength of the sentiment and the meaning is self-evident by not being obvious. I could make a case for it being a kind of love song almost. To living.
So, thoughts on any other great political songs from the pop/rock contingency?
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The Beat - Stand Down Margaret
...certainly the most joyous Protest Song I can recall.
Joyous indeed...
But I was amused a couple of years ago to hear on the radio The Beat's toaster-in-chief, Ranking Roger, positing the theory (I assume in all seriousness) that Margaret Thatcher's ejection from office could be traced back to Stand Down Margaret.
Never mind that, subsequent to its release, she stormed to two further general election victories and bequeathed a third to her party leadership successor; or that the fallout from the poll tax plus a blazing row over Europe might have done for Maggie.
What really got her out was a Beat b-side. Eventually.
Iris DeMent
There's a couple by Iris DeMent on her 1996 album The Way I Should which are powerful and not preachy, just constructed from observation. "There's a Wall in Washington" based around the Vietnam memorial and the impact of war on the families of the fallen, and "Wasteland of the Free" which is a bitter and emotional critique on the state of the USA at the time
If, as Marxist thinkers suggest, the personal is the political
then a lot of great songs are political.
Call me a pathetic idealist but I find the sight of crowds of kids going apeshit to Gossip's 'Standing In The Way Of Control' to be a wonderul, rousing, hopeful thing. Forget all the "roly-poly squirrel-munching hillbilly Beth Ditto" tabloid guff - the fact that this is a song by an openly gay, working-class woman about celebrating diverse individual identities (and the right to gay marriage) in the face of ugly conformism which doesn't preach or lecture but instead rocks like a MUTHA is, I think, a deeply political statement.
'Ghost Town' was political as hell. Green Day's 'American Idiot', whatever you might think of them as a band, and however blunt its message might be, was a massively political act to release, coming as it did in a period of terrifying conformism and complacency in the States. In context, even dance music can be political, whether it was disco and house music's defiant expression of racial mixing and diverse sexualities, or the furious anti-authoritarianism and self-organisation of things like the Exodus raves and the community actions that spun out from them in the 90s. To paraphrase Forrest Gump, political is as political does - and songs and musical styles as part of wider cultural movements have very often played an important part in social and political shifts. 'Dancing In The Streets', anyone?
The politics of dancing
The personal and the personal do inter-sect inexorably, inextricably and imperceptibly - to ouselves as much as to others.
Your point on the politics of dancing is well made. Motown was in its effect and impact a political movement.
It was - "The Politics of Dancing" - also, of course, the title of a paradigm of early 80s poptasticalism along the lines of "We don't need this fascist groove thang".
Both seem faintly ludicrous now but were an important counter to a very nasty reality of life on Britain's streets in the late 70s and early 80s - and sadly still to this day.
Quite so
there's a reason that the 'Disco Sucks' campaign in the US was SO vehement and SO ugly, with its record-burnings and whatnot: disco, for all it is portrayed as mere fluff, was THE continuation of the 60s counter-culture's political expression and message of diversity, far more than any 70s 'me generation' introspective rock bands could ever hope to be.
free nelson mandela,
plenty of Jam, Clash, Bragg, might even be one or two Dylan songs.
Curtis Mayfield & the brotherhood of soul
loads of Curtis' songs, both with the Impressions and solo - Choice of Colours, We The People Who Are Darker Than Blue, all of the album "There's No Place Like America Today".
A great Kent compilation : "Change Is Gonna Come - The Voice Of Black America 1963-1973" - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Change-Gonna-Come-Various-Artists/dp/tracks/B000...
including "Forty Acres & A Mule", "Stay With Your Own Kind" & "To Be Young, Gifted & Black".
Brother James
some more from youtube
Staples Singers :
Nickie Lee :
George Perkins :
Say it loud
You're right,of course, the civil rights movement and African-Anerican music of the time are inextricably inter-twined. That Kent compilation sounds fantastic - and has been duly ordered!
Great stuff - many thanks
it's a fabulous collection
There are some excellent books on the music too : my favourite is Craig Werner's A Change Is Gonna Come
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Change-Gonna-Craig-Hansen-Werner/dp/1841952966/r...
and the Kent collections on Vietnam are both essential :
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0000DD9AN/ref=s9_csim_gw_s0_p15_t3?p...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Anybody-Vietnam-Through-Black-America/dp/B0009A3...
and both still resonate today
Elvis Costello's
"Tramp The Dirt Down" is, I believe, as song about the death of Thatcher and how Costello will visit her grave after her death and trad in the dirt just toi make sure she is in there and that she isn't coming out again. That's pretty political, and it's a great song, too.
Agreed
When the day comes, I shall not 'rejoice' or gloat in any way, but I shall take myself away, pour myself a largish measure and play that song.
I may even shed a tear or two.
"when England was the whore of the world, Margaret was her madam..."
An unfashionable view...
...I know, but let's examine 'Shipbuilding' a bit. Clever lyrics, without doubt (although, like 'Pills and Soap', way too obscure to have any significant impact beyond a knowing clique), but their power lies in whether or not you accept the 'is it worth it?' line. The thing is, if the British government had followed the same line as in the years before of totally ignoring the Falklands and turned a blind eye to an Argentinian takeover, you can just as easily imagine a protest from the left that they were in league with a fascist Junta and had cynically abandoned its own citizens.
Also, whenever Costello is held up as a paragon of virtue I feel compelled to point out that this is the same person who called James Brown a 'jive-ass nigger' and Ray Charles a 'blind, ignorant nigger'. Yes, he was drunk, but ask yourself whether you've felt you couldn't stop yourself shouting racist abuse whenever you've had a few too many. No? me neither.
and i feel compelled to quote
Ray Charles' response 'Drunken talk isn't meant to be printed in the paper'.
Costello and co were clearly trying to wind up 'the enemy'. Bruce Thomas' “Fuck off, steel-nose,” to Steven Stills for example. A dumb drunken twattish moment was used by fading stars to get themselves some column inches.
The Falklands? - 'two bald men fighting over a comb'.
Not too different to Clapton's drunken Birmingham outburst then?
and, if anything, more offensive as it was personally insulting to the individuals concerned.
I'd say it
was different in that Clapton in some way believed what he was saying, drunk or not. Costello in no way thought that about Brown or Charles apart from trying to get a rise out of Bramlett and Stills.
Trouble is that his and Riviera's attitude towards the press meant the media pounced on pissed prattling to cut em down to size. Not to say they didn't deserve it
Can you provide a post alcoholism reference for
your belief that Clapton "believed what he was saying"?
My understanding is that he has frequently stated that the comment was made in the depths of his brandy addiction and came out of nowhere.
One could, of course, argue that Clapton's comment was the result of an illness, whereas Costello's - if done merely to "get a rise out of Bramlett and Stills" - was inexcusable.
Both were equally
crass, stupid and ill judged and there are no winners in playing racist slur off against racist slur. I wouldn't excuse either of em, brandy fueled illness or just plain idiocy.
And I'd suggest that both incidents have little importance to their 'art' (apart from killing Costello's in the US) or really reflects who either man is. But if anyone wants to believe that they point to a deeper racism or bigotry then that's fine.
Costello (not Lou) meets Clinton (not George)
Not sure it has killed Costello in US - he has a highly regarded chat show that is like an infinitely better version of Later - and he seems to attract some pretty stellar guests (see below)
Also, if the episode above did damage his stock with the African American music community, Allen Toussaint, for one, didn't have any qualms about collaborating with him
The Final Cut...
...despite it's reputation. "Won't Get Fooled Again", too.
I rate 'The Final Cut' very highly...
but in a sense it sounds more dated than a record like See Emily Play, and that's because of the numerous mentions of contemporary events and politicians.
Madness, madness, war...
the 70s and 80s were not just a magical time of Spangles, space-hoppers and swing-your-pants dancing to Abba as presented in so many rosy spectacled re-imaginings of our recent past but also a time of unrest, upheaval and rebellion - taking place in Bristol, Liverpool and Brixton, London. One of the most characteristic political trends of that time was the emergence of a distinct Black British voice. This voice had it's authentic realisation in the indigenous reggae of Steel Pulse, Aswad and Linton Kwesi Johnson.
It was a voice raised in anger
Linton..Fan..
..fucking..tastic. Had that LP since it first came out.
Fun Boy Three
As a couple posters have mentioned the Specials it's worth pointing out that the FB3 continued in that vein, eg, "The Lunatics Have Taken Over The Asylum", and "The More I See The Less I Believe" which is probably the best pop song ever written about the Troubles (not that the competition in that category is particularly fierce).
Papa don't preach so manically
Lots of good examples of how music can make a point in non-clunky ways - but what I had in mind is stuff like this.
Oh I see its all a right wing conspiracy and war is a bad thing. I get it now