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Vinyl Collection and Torrents
Posted by craig42blue on 9 October 2009 - 6:34pm.
Just wondered if any legal minded souls out there can advise on the matter of the legality of downloading torrents - mp3 or flac when the user ALREADY OWNS a vinyl (or cassette) copy of the copyrighted album or track.
Any ideas?
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turning it into
different format breaks the copyright so it's illegal shame because your argument does have some sense about it.
Ripping
So ripping CDs to MP3 is illegal ? I thought there was fair use clause that allowed you to do this kind of thing once (or twice)?
I am sure
that there is a fair use type clause for copies for "your personal use" where you own an original cd or lp, whether it is an mp3 copy or a tape copy.
But is there a sticking point when the copy you download from a torrent site is sourced from a different format (say cd) from the copy you already own (say vinyl)?!?
Legal shmegal
I don't see any moral or ethical problem in this circumstance, on the grounds that:
(a) if someone paid for it once then s/he'll be blowed if they pay for it again - it was an album, not a cinema ticket
(b) the original purchase of the album did far more good for the artist in helping get them some degree of fame & success at the time, than it will now (when they've presumably got a proper job instead)
I sleep at night, whether or not the copyright police do.
I tend to agree with you
but am interested to know if anyone has ever presented such a defence asthere have now been a fair number of cases both in the US and here in the UK.
Amen!
I'm skint, I ain't paying for it again
isn't the issues
with mp3 compared to tapes is that you've changed the format from audio single to mp3 where as tape it's just audio to audio.
Also bear in mind...
...that the way that Bittorrent works is that you're usually uploading bits of a file that you've already got, while you're still downloading the bits you need. So, you're not just replicating something you've already got, but you're distributing it to other people (even if you delete the torrent after it's finished downloading, rather than letting it seed).
seems fair
to me, share and share alike
I'll freely admit...
That I have done this, on occasion. The way I see it is that I've paid for my 'copy', and I can only listen to one 'copy' at a time, so I've not really diddled anyone out of anything.
Of course, I know that the music industry in their ever-encompassing greed would see it differently, but I think that if it's a crime, it's way down the list as compared to someone illegally downloading something that they've never paid for in any alternative format...
All said and done, though, I still like to buy vinyl where possible as nothing else comes close... :)
(on another note: interesting to see that some contemporary vinyl releases also include coupons to download MP3 audio of the same album, which is a very sensible thing indeed IMHO).