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Unsung 80s

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On our podcast (www.classicalbums.libsyn.com) this fortnight my mate Gary & I would like to talk about the unsung albums of the 80s and maybe review a couple. What are we missing?

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Ideas?

(Sorry, below the belt)

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Retropath2 | 4 August 2008 - 5:30pm

Were you born mean-spirited

Or did you have to practice?

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smurphy | 7 August 2008 - 1:39pm

Bit of both, I guess.

I blame the parents.

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Retropath2 | 7 August 2008 - 2:24pm

Fey Glaswegians in fringed suede jackets

Orange Juice You Can’t Hide Your Love Forever, which has a lovely picture of a dolphin on the cover, and this gem:


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Richard Lowe | 4 August 2008 - 5:54pm

While we're in Glasgow...

Not so much unsung as neglected:

  • Hats by The Blue Nile
  • Rattlesnakes by Lloyd Cole and the Commotions

  • Elsewhere in the world:

  • any IRS-era REM
  • anything by The Sugarcubes
  • Cupid et Psyche by Scritti Polliti
  • Tin Drum by Japan
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    Con Coleman | 4 August 2008 - 6:09pm

    New country

    In the 80s, generally a decade I found musically dull, new country was a real highlight for me - Steve Earle "Guitar town", Dwight Yoakham "Guitars, Cadillacs etc etc", and even mad old Elvis Costello with "Almost Blue", Lucinda Williams' eponymous first album all being highlights.

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    Twangothan | 4 August 2008 - 7:18pm

    Continuing the Scottish theme for a while...

    Anything by The Associates (but probably The Affectionate Punch - Sulk is better but not really 'unsung')

    The third Altered Images album (Bite)

    The Only Fun in Town by Josef K

    And a bit further south...

    Tell God I'm Here by Hurrah!

    Boat to Bolivia by Martin Stephenson and the Daintees

    Get Out and Walk by The Farmer's Boys

    Playing With a Different Sex by The Au Pairs

    Walking The Ghost Back Home by The Bible!

    Love & Hope & Sex & Dreams by The Bodeans

    Bring The Family by John Hiatt

    and of course

    Slippery When Wet by Bon Jovi

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    Paul Waring | 4 August 2008 - 7:38pm

    Deviating from the script somewhat...

    ...but what about looking at albums by those big names that were really rubbish in the 1980s: The Stones, Dylan, McCartney, Elton John...

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    Con Coleman | 4 August 2008 - 7:27pm

    Liverpool bands

    Teardrop Explodes - both Kilimanjaro and Wilder
    Echo & the Bunnymen - Crocodiles, Heaven Up Here and Ocean Rain (brother James Blast would insist that Porcupine be substituted for Ocean Rain).
    Wah! - Nah=poo:The Art of Bluff
    It's Immaterial - Life's Short And Then You Die
    Dalek I Love You - 1st (and only?) album

    and most definitely not from Liverpool

    The Sound - From The Lion's Mouth

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    Carl Parker | 4 August 2008 - 7:42pm

    Ocean Rain!

    that's where the wheels fell off for me. To continue my championing of the genre that dare not raise it's head in here:
    The Sisters Of Mercy ~ First and Last and Always
    The Sisters Of Mercy ~ Floodland
    Play Dead ~ Company of Justice
    and some other MIAs
    Shriekback ~ Care
    Shriekback ~ Jam Science
    Shriekback ~ Oil and Gold
    Shriekback ~ Big Night Music
    RevCo ~ Beers, Steers + Qveers
    Pop Will Eat Itself ~ This is the day... this is the hour... this is this!
    Big Audio Dynamite ~ This is Big Audio Dynamite
    and dreadfully overlooked
    The Clash ~ Combat Rock

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    James Blast | 8 August 2008 - 3:33pm

    Remembrance of things past

    Shriekback ~ Jam Science
    Shriekback ~ Oil and Gold

    You're right James - they were GREAT albums. Need to try to find where they're hidden at home.

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    Red Umpire | 8 August 2008 - 3:42pm

    Shame on me

    Brother Blast, how could I have forgotten Shriekback?

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    Carl Parker | 8 August 2008 - 8:47pm

    see me...

    after class

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    James Blast | 11 August 2008 - 2:54pm

    Sea of Love - The Adventures

    Sea of Love - The Adventures


    Waiting for the Floods - Armoury Show

    Go on - do 2 unsung classic 80's albums

    Good podcasts btw. Hope the little one is doing fine.

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    Leedsboy | 4 August 2008 - 11:12pm

    Broken Land

    What a song that is. Good call, Leeds.

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    Graham Johns | 6 August 2008 - 12:24am

    Armoury Show

    Evidence of quality



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    Leedsboy | 8 August 2008 - 3:41pm

    ABC

    I'd say ABC - The Lexicon of Love, but it's probably not 'hip' enough. Human League - Dare. Also - New Gold Dream - Simple Minds.

    Time for a re-issue of 'You Can't Hide Your Love Forever', methinks.

    Re: Con_Coleman's comments about really rubbish albums in the 80's by Dylan, McCartney, etc.

    I beg to differ. 'Oh Mercy' by Dylan is brilliant.

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    lainey | 4 August 2008 - 9:23pm

    indeed, and for what it's worth

    Flowers in the Dirt by Macca still gets played around my gaff. Mind you, it *was* almost 1990 by the time it came out, but still...when it's good it's a littler belter of an album. I presume Con_C was referring to Tug of War etc, but just be careful with the Tar and Brush, mate...Look what happened to Mike Batt a few posts down!

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    ivan | 4 August 2008 - 11:19pm

    Propaganda – A Secret Wish


    If British bands such as Ultravox and The Passions affected a certain European sophistication, then Propaganda, assisted by German singer Claudia Brücken’s detached, coldly intellectual vocals, felt like the real thing.

    The group are probably best remembered for their single Duel which appears on this album back-to-back with its abrasive, diamond-cut counterpart - Jewel (the same song with all the melody stripped away).

    A cover of Josef K’s - Sorry For Laughing, abandons the original’s meandering post punk in favour of a typically Wagnerian Stephen Lipson/Trevor Horn production job that is much better suited to the lyrics.

    The theatrics reach their zenith on Dr Mabuse which references the fictional criminal mastermind popularised in films of Fritz Lang and is straight-faced triumph in the face of absurd lyrics and an overblown, everything and the kitchen sink arrangement.

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    backwards7 | 5 August 2008 - 2:39am

    Felt

    Pretty much the definition of unsung. Should be up there with the Smiths as far as I'm concerned.
    Forever Breathes the Lonely Word and Me and a Monkey on the Moon are up there with the best of that decade, and any other decade for that matter. The latter is one of the very few perfect albums for me.

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    Madrid | 5 August 2008 - 6:51am

    5 for the list

    BLONDIE - Autoamerican (always overlooked in favour of Parallel Lines or the Greatest Hits)
    BOWWOWWOW - See Jungle etc. (still sounds bonkers)
    THE THE - Soul Mining (apparently the only album certified gold in the UK to never make the top 20 in the album chart)
    JULIAN COPE - Fried (loopy but great)

    And you'll laugh, but
    A-HA - Scoundrel Days (still gets regular play "round our way")

    I'll also second FELT from an earlier poster.

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    Metal Mickey | 5 August 2008 - 9:26am

    A few more...

    Tim and Pleased to Meet Me by the Replacements

    Women And Children First by Van Halen - unlock your inner 14-year-old!

    Around the World in a Day by Prince and the Revolution - much more fun and less bombastic than Purple Rain

    Abba - The Visitors

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    Jon | 5 August 2008 - 9:49am

    I am with you on

    Propaganda - Secret Wish
    Sigue Sigue Sputnik - Flaunt It (no come back!, it's actually far more influential than you would imagine)
    Big Audio Dynamite - This Is (better than The Clash. Seriously)
    The Ocean Blue - they were American, released self titled album on Sire. Very janglesome. Great hair

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    lovelyian | 5 August 2008 - 10:31am

    A couple more

    House of Love's debut on Creation was a perfect guitar record. Still listen at least every couple of weeks and every time am amazed that they didn't become huge. With hindsight it's not massively original, but rarely has that kind of thing been done better.

    Shane Macgowan's descent into comedy/tragic drunk and the Pogues status as an excuse for a piss up around christmas time means the quality of what they were up to in the 80s seems to have been forgotten. If I Should Fall From Grace with God is the one that still does it for me. Shane and his colleagues were never on such good form again.

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    Madrid | 5 August 2008 - 10:50am

    Simple Minds

    I've said it elsewhere on here before, but Sons & Fascination / Sister Fellings Call and New Gold Dream were both very good albums.

    I would also recommend Happy Families by Blancmange (despite its appalling cover), Sweet Dreams by Eurythmics, and the first, self-titled Orchestral Manouevres in the Dark album.

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    Red Umpire | 5 August 2008 - 10:58am

    Kings of the Wild Frontier

    Non Stop Erotic Cabaret

    George Best - The Wedding Present; brilliantly bittersweet lyrics. The epitome of jangle pop.

    Rage in Eden - Ultravox

    Steeltown - Big Country - Hugely underrated - get the version with Wonderland tacked on. Just some really great guitar playing.

    Darklands - JAMC (better than Psychocandy!)

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    Six Dog | 5 August 2008 - 11:43am

    That Petrol Emotion - "Manic Pop Thrill"

    Screaming Blue Messiahs - "Gun Shy"

    The Godfathers - "Hit By Hit"

    I love these records - raw, guitar driven, angry and melodic - the antithesis of the over-produced 80's standard.

    Julian Cope's first two solo albums "World Shut Your Mouth" and "Fried" were also packed full of great songs and riffs.

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    Retro Man | 5 August 2008 - 2:08pm

    Boat to Bolivia

    I'd agree with the recommendation for this one, already made above, by The Daintees. Standout track for me was always 'Little Red Bottle'

    Despite all the production polish prevalent(woah there Alliteration Boy!)during that time there was still some basic, effective guitar strumming going on. 'The Georgia Satellites' I remember as being tongue in cheek Tom Petty-type stuff and highly enjoyable.

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    Beezer | 5 August 2008 - 2:28pm

    80's Production

    put me off a lot of records of the time, I think this was touched on in a recent Podcast too.
    Aztec Camera being a good example, I could never stand their sound on record and it was only a few years back when Mrs Kitson dragged me to a Roddy Frame solo show and hearing the songs stripped down acoustic that I realzied what a superb songwriter he was.

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    Retro Man | 5 August 2008 - 2:43pm

    Steve McQueen

    by Prefab Sprout is another case in point. Whilst Thomas Dolby's work on the album is nowhere near as bad what Aztec Camera suffered, the 25th anniversay edition of Steve McQueen has a cd with eight of the songs re-recorded acoustically which is far superior to the original LP. There are many other examples, of 80's production values ruining decent music, often featuring a weedy synthesiser track and/or a cement mixer drum machine.

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    gram | 8 August 2008 - 3:09pm

    Pillows and Prayers - Cherry Red

    'Pillows and Prayers' with artists from the Cherry Red label. One of the best albums of the 80s. But does it count as being an album technically because it's a compilation? Oh, how I fondly remember paying 99p at HMV, and having no clue what it was all about (I just bought it because it was cheap), and being thrilled by what I heard when I got home.

    Felt, The Monochrome Set, Kevin Coyne, Marine Girls, Attila the Stockbroker (Is there life in Peckham?), etc., etc.

    A gem from start to finish, and it's lost not one jot of its cachet after all these years.

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    lainey | 5 August 2008 - 2:54pm
    Red Umpire | 5 August 2008 - 3:13pm

    Pillows extended

    Lovely, thanks!

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    lainey | 5 August 2008 - 3:16pm

    Monochrome Set!

    Yes! Thanks for the reminder, what a superb band they were - definitely worth some sort of review/article they have a fantastic back catalogue.

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    Retro Man | 5 August 2008 - 3:23pm

    *cough*

    It's also available at the Word Download Store for half that price, albeit wrapped up in DRM.


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    Fraser Lewry | 5 August 2008 - 3:22pm

    Begging

    your pardon!

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    Red Umpire | 5 August 2008 - 3:27pm

    ummmmm - pardon my ignorance

    What's DRM? I really don't download stuff, as you can probably tell. Only the occasional track on itunes.

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    lainey | 5 August 2008 - 3:31pm

    Digital Rights Management

    It's when record companies encode their files so that they can only be copied a certain number of times, or can only be played on a limited number of computers. Ostensibly it's to curtail the whole file-swapping/free music thing, but it's never really been accepted by consumers, and now it looks like the music industry is slowly moving away from DRM anyway.

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    Fraser Lewry | 5 August 2008 - 3:40pm

    no iPod

    Lainey, it means if you download the Pillows & Prayers tracks from the Word store they won't play on your iPod...

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    Red Umpire | 5 August 2008 - 4:06pm

    Yes, absolutely

    WMA (the format the DRM'd files come in) is a Microsoft format and not exactly iPod-friendly.

    (Sorry David - I moved your comment to keep its proper place in the thread)

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    Fraser Lewry | 5 August 2008 - 4:10pm

    Thanks!

    I was actually editing the comment to ask you how to do just that when the site told me that I couldn't access it. I guessed you were doing something clever...

    So, how do we delete posts that we're no longer happy with?

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    Red Umpire | 5 August 2008 - 4:25pm

    You

    Ask nicely :-)

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    Fraser Lewry | 5 August 2008 - 4:32pm

    Hey!

    It works. (Thanks Fraser!)

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    Red Umpire | 5 August 2008 - 4:49pm

    And Kevin Hewick!

    Who I may be having a pint with tomorrow.


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    TedLoaf | 5 August 2008 - 4:44pm

    Cherry Red...

    An off shoot of Frilly Pink?

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    Six Dog | 6 August 2008 - 9:21am

    It wasn't all horrible drum sounds & rolled up jacket sleeves

    I give you Chasing Shadows by The Comsat Angels & The Bible by The Bible, which features my Single Of The 80's in Honey Be Good. Also, I'm ashamed to say I'm only just getting into XTC - their 80's output is uniformly excellent. King For A Day from Oranges and Lemons is my new favourite song. How did I miss this...

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    Graham Johns | 6 August 2008 - 1:00am

    The Blow Monkeys

    'Animal Magic' and 'She Was Only A Grenngrocers Daughter'

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    Blue Sky | 6 August 2008 - 5:17am

    The Clock comes down the Stairs

    Microdisney's finest. (The Cathal Coughlan fanclub is out in strength this week... all 3 of us).

    Liberty Belle and the Black Diamond Express by the Go-betweens.

    I'd add my vote to Rattlesnakes and If I should fall from Grace with God as well.

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    paulwright | 6 August 2008 - 3:32pm

    Another Cathal one - Fatima Mansions

    "Against Nature" or was that the 90's?

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    Retro Man | 6 August 2008 - 3:57pm

    The The

    Nobody talks about Soul Mining anymore. This saddens me - and probably Matt Johnson, too.

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    Herman Kortado | 6 August 2008 - 11:29pm

    The Other 80s

    Absolutely - The The, XTC, Lloyd Cole, the Mighty Go-Betweens - it was quite another 1980s. Can't wait to hear this radio show; hope it is pocastable from Australia.

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    jessadams | 7 August 2008 - 11:50am

    From OZ?

    Yes, it is - and you could be our furtherst flung listnere. We are in the UK and we have listeners in Sweden, Canada, Africa, but no antipodeans. Download at www.classicalbums.libsyn.com or search fro the Classic Albums Podcast on itunes. Welcome and we'll see you there.

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    smurphy | 7 August 2008 - 1:42pm

    Oranges and Lemons 1989

    I'll look forward to the podcast. And just realised the aforementioned Oranges and Lemons by XTC was 1989 - for some reason I always pegged it in the 1990s. Maybe it's just timeless.

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    jessadams | 7 August 2008 - 10:05pm

    XTC were the 1980's for me.

    XTC were the 1980's for me. My brother and I toured Britain in an old SDI Rover with just English Settlement and the Big Express for musical company. On a whim we made a pilgrimage to the White Horse of Uffington in 1984, got lost in a small village very close and asked a chap for directions. It turned out to be Colin Moulding walking his pet dalmation. Possibly the strangest thing ever to happen to me. I think their '86 album Skylarkingjust about tops the list for me however.

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    Steerpike | 7 August 2008 - 11:36pm

    Tin Machine

    Go on. I dare you!! A classic according to some people (well, me anyway).

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    NealT | 8 August 2008 - 1:19pm

    Lounge Jazz......nice....

    ... a couple of '80's albums I refound when putting vinyl into the PC - that still stand up really well

    Thomas Lang - Scallywag Jaz
    Working Week - Working Week

    somehow they work even better with the clicks and hisses of vinyl..

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    Andrew2 | 9 August 2008 - 12:31am

    Working Week

    Working Nights is the album name

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    Andrew2 | 9 August 2008 - 12:33am

    The Flat Earth

    By Thomas Dolby

    and Don't Stand Me Down by Dexy's.

    I'd also go for Gone To Earth by David Sylvian.

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    Futurenoir | 9 August 2008 - 7:48pm

    Furniture

    The Wrong People is a classic 80's album for me. Love it, still gets played and is transferred onto the i-pod. It's the one with the hits on too.

    Also like Stephen "Tin-Tin" Duffy's album from around 84, the Ups and Downs.

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    waldorf | 9 August 2008 - 7:59pm

    UNSUNG 80's ALBUMS

    David Sylvian - Brilliant Trees - (he was 25-26 when he made this, imagine a 26 year old making this kind of solo album nowadays, incredible!) - and once again I plead with Word magazine for a re-appraisal of the man and his music, long overdue for the mag (well you do feature Tom Waits and Nick Cave quite alot... just for a change eh guys?).

    Depeche Mode - Construction Time Again - these guys were well ahead on the intelligent pop and industrial sound!

    Scritti Politti - Provision - hey it had Miles Davis on it, how untra-un80's cool is that!

    OMD - Dazzle Ships - imagine a successful selling band doing this kind of uncommercial suicide album nowadays - er hang on, were Radiohead taking notes early on?

    Personally I think there were a huge amount of fantastic unsung 80's albums, it was a decade of real creativity and also dross (rhymes with Bros wierdly)

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    über-über | 11 August 2008 - 7:52am

    Bang On

    Totally with you re Depeche Mode and I consider Dazzle Ships a masterpiece. I would put Cupid & Psyche ahead of Provision, though.

    I would venture Soft Cell's dance-heavy remix LP Non-Stop Ecstatic Dancing as an unsung 80s moment. Possibly the first such release (?) as I think it came out before Human League's Love Unlimited Orchestra thing.

    Not sure why the dance remix follow-up thing hasn't been done more - there are certain ones that eclipse the actual source album.

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    Austin | 30 August 2008 - 9:38pm

    Thanks Guys

    We'll be choosing soon and broadcasting 1st week september. You folks had a wee mention in issue #23, which featured Queens of the Stone Age and Velvet Underground

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    smurphy | 20 August 2008 - 12:09pm

    The Church

    Their 80's catalogue is unbelievable.
    "Of Skin And Hearts"
    "Blurred Crusade"
    "Heyday"-(this has "Myrrh" on it!!! the guitars, the guitars...)
    "Starfish"

    Good thing is they are still going strong and producing their best music.

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    Tiger Tiger | 28 August 2008 - 5:51am

    The Church

    I didn't realise they were still going.
    I went to see them at the Town & Country in Kentish Town around the time of Heyday. What literally stunned me was how loud they were. Days afterwards when I met my mate Simon we both found that our hearing was still recovering from the experience.

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    Carl Parker | 28 August 2008 - 10:14am

    Their last 3 records are

    Their last 3 records are very strong. Great tunes with that distinctive 2 guitar sound and Steve Kilbey's vocals. They sure can create beautiful soundscapes. They don't play very often, but I've been fortunate to see them in electric and acoustic mode a few times (living in Australia helps)and the shows are always killer-bee! I think a new record is on its way. If you get a chance have a listen the song "Block" from their last record called "Uninvited, Like The Clouds". It'll give you a taste of what they sound like now.

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    Tiger Tiger | 29 August 2008 - 1:26am
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