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Universal Cliches from US Television Drama

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The local police always hate the CIA/FBI/XFiles/Warehouse 13/CSI/Men from Uncle who are assigned to cases on their jurisdiction.

Why? You'd think they'd be glad of the help.

Any more...

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Unhelpful superiors

Despite the detectives' apparently 100% clearup rate, their bosses still gives them a hard time and never back them up.

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Brookster | 19 July 2011 - 6:24pm

Very true

but this isn't unique to American drama. British cop shows are the same, and the Danish The Killing was as well. It's often accompanied by a drink problem and broken marriage (although she still loves him really) as a sign of just being too committed to the job and having a troubled conscience.

It's a long time since I read Maigret, but I think he was one of the few detectives who was almost radical in being sober, happily married and playing by the rules.

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Melville | 19 July 2011 - 6:36pm

A variation on this

is the superior barking "I'm giving you 48 hours maximum, then you're off the case".

Alternatively, tired of the obstruction from above, the cop resigns on the spot, throws his badge and gun on superior's desk and then goes out and solves the case anyway as a "private citizen".

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mojoworking | 20 July 2011 - 3:44am

See also

"I'll give you forty-eight hours. I've got the DA's office on my back."

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Brookster | 20 July 2011 - 8:58am

Usually preceded with the phrase

"You're getting too close to this case"

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Rigid Digit | 20 July 2011 - 8:49pm

The first album by...

The Dobey Brothers was really good.

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Patrick Crowther | 20 July 2011 - 8:10am

Despite subsisting on a diet of whiskey and tabs

for the last fifteen years and sleeping in his car for an hour per night our hero can still catch villains twenty years his junior in a straight sprint. And then, without gasping for air, he will biff them to the ground while calling them names.
In a shoot out any convenient object will provide him with adequate cover from high velocity projectiles. He can pause while a dozen goons pepper the vicinity of his head with bullets before discharging his own weapon with olympic standard accuracy. He can even do this while leaning out of a swerving car.

Oh, and - it's not TV - but can I post this?

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STD | 19 July 2011 - 6:48pm

That's a genuinely great moment

from a film that had more funny moments than it was credited for.

And it made me like Marc Wahlberg more than I ever had previously done.

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Grant | 20 July 2011 - 3:25am

Blimey!

That's almost verbatim what I wanted to write but I left it at the clip because I felt I'd said enough already...

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STD | 20 July 2011 - 8:17pm

Bobby Ewing is immortal

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Uncle Wheaty | 19 July 2011 - 7:12pm

Well I was bloody surprised to find out

he's only 62 now. Dallas started in 1978.

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STD | 19 July 2011 - 7:24pm

Young med student

After early cock ups in the A&E, finds redempton by saving life of patient by spotting symptom everyone else missed

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NigelT | 19 July 2011 - 8:59pm

There is also

the unfeasibly light case load most of these hospital doctors have.

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Podicle | 20 July 2011 - 3:46am

here is the news...

Anyone who watches a TV news report about themselves (while usually on the run for a crime they didn't commit) turns it off before the report is finished. This may be to avoid the following report about a skateboarding squirrel (or something)....

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grum | 20 July 2011 - 1:54am

not only that, but when they

not only that, but when they turn on the radio/TV it is their TV/radio news report that is being presented.

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hubertrawlinson | 20 July 2011 - 1:12pm

Impatient Officers of the Law

"Open up! Police!"

Immediately, nods are exchanged - whammo - door is bashed off its hinges by one kick.

Window open - net curtains flapping in the breeze.

"We lost him, boss"
"Damn!" (punches a stuffed animal)

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Austin | 20 July 2011 - 2:19am

Cabs

can almost always be found when they're required - a quick wave and/or a whistle and one will pull up in a couple of seconds. And of course our hero always has the exact money at his fingertips (frequently without looking at the note he's holding).

And traffic is rarely built up, let alone jammed. Unless it's for comic effect.

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Sir Tainley Gno... | 20 July 2011 - 5:21am

And of course....

There is always a parking spot right outside where they want to go (I guess driving round the block for 15 minutes looking for a space, the silence broken only by occassional exclamations of 'there's one, oh no, it's disabled only' would not do a great deal for the narrative).

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art vanderlay | 20 July 2011 - 8:56am

This was made fun of on Seinfeld

George would often refuse to use his car when the group were going somewhere/he was going somewhere because he had found "the perfect spot" and thus didn´t want to move his car.

Considering your username you would already know about this though.

//Kel Varnsen

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Ola Claesson | 20 July 2011 - 10:06am

This is more of a British cop show thing

When the police turn up at the run-down council house looking for the errant scrote of a son, they always address his slapper of a mother by her first name, implying that he's a serial offender and they often drop by to pick him up. "Where is he Violet? C'mon luv, stop pissing us about".

And the mother always gives the cops a mouthful of unbelievable abuse back, which only prompts them to smash the place up a bit more.

Then there's the police snout, or informer. He's invariably a sad, consumptive figure in a dirty mac with a twitchy smack habit. They meet on a park bench, or in a grubby cafe and he always addresses the cop as "Mr".

The cop in turn treats his snout like something he scraped off his shoe before disdainfully shoving a £20 note at him across the table.

Following the next ad break the snout is usually found hanging from his own light fitting.

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mojoworking | 20 July 2011 - 5:55am

It's funny how

It's funny how the missus always looks the bleedin same.

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Lying Doggo | 26 July 2011 - 12:33pm

It's not like that on the TV...

...when it's cool for cats...

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mojoworking | 26 July 2011 - 2:03pm

Incommunicado

Just as our hero is about to confront arch villian and henchmen in their lair (* always, repeat, always in the dead of night*), goes to phone for backup. They find their phone has been lost/broken/out of battery/no signal - a deus ex machina that has been battered into the viewer's psyche in an earlier scene.

Our hero will never wait or wander the neighbourhood looking for an upstanding citizen to borrow a phone from. Which is why most confrontations are in deserted industrial estates or compounds in dense woodland.

A more believeable version would be that our hero's phone would be locked out by his 5 year old trying to get to a Thomas the Tank Engine app followed by lenghty calls to his provider and trawling through drawers and boxes looking for an IMEI number. Televisual gold, I tells ya..

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Vent My Spleen | 20 July 2011 - 8:41am

British cop show cliche

If The Bill turn up to the home of a miscreant, said miscreant's wife/mother/sister will be engaged in a domestic task, hanging up laundry/cleaning etc which they will not stop doing as they talk to the visiting officers.

When the police bang at my door I also continue with the chores as I talk with them...

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ganglesprocket | 20 July 2011 - 9:16am

Also

They speak to the law with breathtaking insolence. I go into total cringe mode with the law, as they have all the cards. If a cop appeared at my door the words "why don't you piss off and leave my faaaaimly alone" would not pass my lips.

Also hey don't learn. Every episode of the Bill they turned up at the house or flat on the Larkmead or the Bronty and burst in the front (see above) while the villain escapes out the back. Never once did they think to position a bobby round the back to nick the villain as he slides down the drainpipe.

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Twangothan | 20 July 2011 - 9:59am

Gambling huge amounts of money in "Vegas"

Is totally socially acceptable in sit coms, but not on dramas*

* See also: Paying for hookers.

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BernkastelCues | 20 July 2011 - 9:21am

Oh, and the wives of fat, middle aged "blue collar" characters

in US sitcoms will be younger, more intelligent, and unfeasibly far too attractive for them if said character is the star.

I give you the wives of .....

Jim Belushi in "According to Jim"

Kevin James in "King of Queens"

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BernkastelCues | 20 July 2011 - 9:36am

John Goodman

wants a word. How'd he get stiffed with Roseanne?

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sitheref2409 | 20 July 2011 - 1:39pm

Title of the show might give you the answer...

...she was the star of the show.
Right question is: how did she get stiffed with John Goodman ?
Answer to that is: "What - a fat houswife with a cute toyboy husband ? Cancel this disgusting show right now!" :)

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Locust | 22 July 2011 - 12:43am

When someone gets dumped

or receives bad news, they always say, "Get out!" then proceed to do a back-against-the-door slump. You know the one: they sort of slide down the door with their back...into a heap of despair.

No-one has ever done this is in real life.

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peterthecook | 20 July 2011 - 9:48am

And then eat Ice Cream like a greedy Mr Creosote...

But with no apparent health implications.

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BernkastelCues | 20 July 2011 - 9:52am

The control-freak female won over by the rough diamond.

The girl always has a straight-laced boyfriend called Todd and she is initially repulsed by our hero's lack of table manners/dress sense or his penchant for fisticuffs. However, by the end of the show she is is saying "You go on ahead without me Todd ..." as she takes a swig of whiskey from the bottle.

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mutikonka | 20 July 2011 - 10:05am

Some of my faves

When spotting a suspect from a distance, the cops always yell 'Hey (name) Stay Right There! Police!' They are then surprised when the suspect does a runner.
When fighting off an assailant, whenever said assailant has been grounded, no-one (I mean no-one) gives him a right shoeing there and then. They always leg it so that the assailant has time to recover & re-commence the chase.
When in a night club, if the singer is part of the plot, the hero will watch the (usually female) singer come on stage, do one number, then come off stage to talk to the cop/private eye/whatever.

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garyt | 20 July 2011 - 10:37am

Also in fights

a man gets kicked in the nuts but shakes it off as little more than a temporary inconvenience and comes up swinging in seconds.

The real consequence of being a victim of this has only ever been shown twice in films I have seen - in Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid and in the first Coen brother's film Blood Simple.

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Carl Parker | 20 July 2011 - 1:58pm

The hero...

...will absorb immense amounts of punishment in a fight, but will wince when the heroine dabs his injuries with a hanky.

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Inky Fingers | 20 July 2011 - 2:23pm

Also

He will take a fearful pasting and in the next scene have a slight bruise on one cheekbone and a little piece of white tape on his temple.

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Twangothan | 20 July 2011 - 4:07pm

Going through a plate glass window

appears to have no physical consequences at all. Not even a scratch.

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Brookster | 20 July 2011 - 10:43am

The lead character will always have at least one ethnic friend

Probably statistically possible, but one wonders....

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BernkastelCues | 20 July 2011 - 11:05am

That's was Charlie Gilmour's

defence, wasn't it? That and the drugs.

Going through a plate glass window
appears to have no physical consequences at all. Not even a scratch

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mojoworking | 20 July 2011 - 11:16am

I remember reading about an intoxicated

Peter Beagrie driving a motorbike through a window on a pre-season tour and needing 50 stitches.

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Brookster | 20 July 2011 - 11:29am

Hey...

..happened to me! Not an effin scratch! But there was plenty when the miscreant clamped his jaw around my right ear tho'...
Not to worry, he is dead now, I am not (Grins in a mysterious way, and slinks of back to The Hood).

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geacher53 | 20 July 2011 - 8:00pm

When driving in San Francisco

it's compulsory for police cars to become airborne on every terraced street.

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mojoworking | 20 July 2011 - 11:11am

The hard-bitten rebellious lead cop

is always paired with a decent god-fearing happily married-with-cute-kids play by the rules rookie.

They never give him an equally mean and damaged partner.

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Retro Man | 20 July 2011 - 11:16am

But not for long ...

.... if partnered with Clint Eastwood, as they will have been killed or at best become so disillusioned thay they have given the force up to teach primary school kids.

More film than TV I know but I'm sure the same applies.

Also the number of pathologists, psychologists or Crime Scene Investigators who actually make the final arrest based on their findings is probably about 100% more than in real life.

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Mike Todd | 20 July 2011 - 11:36am

100% of 0 is ...

... 0, right?

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epigone | 22 July 2011 - 8:32am

Not only that...

... the amount of pathologists, psychologists or Crime Scene Investigators who get personally involved with the crime is incredible.

They either personally know or are related to every dead body that is wheeled through the door, or are kidnapped and sadistically tortured by the serial killer, only to be rescued in the nick of time.

British TV is probably more guilty of this than the Americans.

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mojoworking | 22 July 2011 - 8:54am

Not confined to US TV

Nobody ever says "bye" at the end of a phone call, they just hang-up.

A bit rude isn't it?

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David Sutherland | 20 July 2011 - 11:22am

At Waring Towers

Mrs W and myself always, in unison, say 'byeee' on the character's behalf as they put the receiver down.

Every time.

The long winter nights just fly by round ours.

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Paul Waring | 20 July 2011 - 2:14pm

Infinite resolution on digital photos

"Can you just zoom in here?"

[Operator draws rectangle on screen]

"And can you go in on this man?"

[Sweeping zoom effect]

"Can you enhance that?"

[Furious tapping of keyboard]

Lo and behold, a bunch of big blocky pixels are transformed into a recognisable face.

I've been using Photoshop for several years and still haven't been able to master this technique.

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Brookster | 20 July 2011 - 12:31pm

Closely related to..

the computer-sussed guy who can always, within seconds of getting at a keyboard, scour any database, save the world, or reduce the system to a smouldering mess, depending on what's needed.

With about 10 keystrokes!

Magic for the modern world.

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Declan | 20 July 2011 - 3:12pm

And they always work out the most complicated passwords!

Interior, night, Mission Control. Frantic activity, lots of military types furiously tapping away on computer keyboards. Giant screen shows map of world and arc of nuclear missile heading for the US.

General Mankowitz: "It's no good, kid. We don't have the password. I guess it's too late. The first nuclear missile will strike DC in less than 4 hours." (takes photo of wife & kids out of wallet. Looks at it mournfully).

Computer whizz: "General, didn't you say earlier Al Fayhidi is obsessed with Megan Fox?"

GM: "I sure did."

CW: "I wonder..." (taps away at keyboard) "Megan Fox, born May 16, 1986..." (continues tapping away on keyboard) "... measurements 34C-26-34..." (tap tap tap) "... shoe size 7..." (tap tap) "... Hmmm... I wonder..."

GM: "What ya got, kid?"

CW: "I don't know general.... but I think I may have something here." (enters 516863426347 into password field. Huge big red letters declare "PASSWORD ACCEPTED." Everyone cheers & hugs each other.

General Mankowitz reunites with wife & kids, computer whizz kid gets the girl, fade to black.

- THE END -

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Billybob Dylan | 20 July 2011 - 5:13pm

Typing furiously all the time

Despite the 22nd-century enhancement technology at their fingertips, these rooms full of boffins do everything on the keyboard. I guess the sound of fifty mice being clicked feverishly - with the odd bod picking their's up, shaking it, blowing into the hole in the underside, then smacking it on the desk a few times - just ain't as dramatic as all that typing.

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Con Coleman | 22 July 2011 - 8:53am

And

the computers always bleep when they're processing, occaisionally accompanied by words such as "searching" flashing up on the screen.

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Jim M | 23 July 2011 - 9:31am

Aha! Let's enhance...

Genius!

gb

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gordyboy77 | 21 July 2011 - 11:50pm

I wish

just once, the dialog would go:

"And enhance."

[Techie fires up Photoshop. Filter > Sharpen > Unsharp Mask]

"Bollocks!"

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Brookster | 22 July 2011 - 9:38am

Castle

I think that they did that in one episode of Castle (starring Nathan Fillion and Stana Katic - light but enjoyable fun. But I still miss Firefly...)

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paulwright | 22 July 2011 - 2:58pm

Small and only slightly interesting fact

I shall be at a wedding on Saturday where Stana Katic will also be a guest. I'm taking orders for autographs.

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el toro calvo grande | 26 July 2011 - 2:07pm

erm..

one please, and it's not for me, it's for the Missus..

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Grant | 27 July 2011 - 10:28am

Someone on b3ta.com

seems to have been pilfering our collective brain

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Brookster | 14 August 2011 - 1:01pm

My favourite

My favourite one of those was an episode of Spooks in which they constructed an image of someone's face by analysing a photo of the back of his head.

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Lying Doggo | 26 July 2011 - 12:43pm

DNA Tests come back in hours rather than days

Government geeks can hack into anything and get complete life histories, credit details and phone log without breaking sweat. No warrants or permissions are required.

Arrested persons always a hot-shot lawyer, refuse to answer questions, say 'We're Done Here', or some variant and walk out of the police station.

Alternatively they are infeasibly rich and have some pull with the city/state authorities/mayor and can threaten the cop/investigator's livelihood.

In situation comedy shows, friends or neighbours walk straight through the front door at any time of day or night and take over the conversation/get immediate attention. Also take food out of fridge and help themselves.

Cops always have father who was a cop and who was shot in the line of duty;

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Badlands | 20 July 2011 - 1:03pm

Further to that front door thing

When friend/neighbour enters the front door, they engage in conversation with the home owner without bothering to shut the door behind them. Said conversation will proceed for 20 seconds, then the friend makes a reference to an as-yet-unseen third party (usually a wacky cousin or a buxom blonde bimbo).

And, as if by magic, upon the mention of cousin/tart's name, they walk in through the open door they've been obediently waiting behind for the previous 20 seconds, with a big grin on their face. (If it's wacky cousin, he'll be carrying a comedy object to emphasise his wackiness, probably a ukulele, and quite possibly wearing a hula skirt).

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Bob Sacamano | 21 July 2011 - 4:40pm

And...

"Government geeks can hack into anything and get complete life histories, credit details and phone log without breaking sweat. No warrants or permissions are required."

So can News International employees. What's your point...? ;-)

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Red Umpire | 26 July 2011 - 12:55pm
Neil Dyson | 20 July 2011 - 1:18pm

Heh!

Who's the singer/band?

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Brookster | 20 July 2011 - 2:06pm

Mundo Jazz

Glastonbury regulars, an acquired taste...

http://www.mundojazz.co.uk/Mundo_Jazz/Home.html

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Neil Dyson | 20 July 2011 - 2:48pm

The Sideways Gun Thing

Handguns, when wielded by miscreants, are far more accurate and effective if held sideways rather than vertically.

This does not apply to the good guys' guns.

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Paul Waring | 20 July 2011 - 2:16pm

I heard an interview

with a US policeman who was all in favour of the 'holding your gun sideways' craze, as it meant that assailants usually missed their targets.

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Brookster | 20 July 2011 - 2:20pm

There is only one type of computer

(A MacBook.)

No one in TV or movie-land owns a Dell, HP, Sony or Acer.

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Brookster | 20 July 2011 - 2:55pm

and any laptop

is always ready to use as soon as it is opened. No long boot ups or blue screen/beach ball of death. No porn pop ups for that matter.

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davebigpicture | 20 July 2011 - 6:57pm

Not to mention

infinite battery life, as they never seem to be plugged in...

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Ruff-Diamond | 22 July 2011 - 4:41pm

sneaking up on people in

sneaking up on people in helicopters - always happening to Jack Bauer

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halibut | 20 July 2011 - 4:22pm

Missing loved one...

...spotted in distance on crowded street. Our hero/heroine runs after them, just reaches them, taps them on shoulder (or spins them around violently)...and would you believe it, it's not the missing loved one at all, it's a stranger in exactly the same clothes/hairstyle (NOTE: never chase after a missing loved one in a red coat as it may be a murderous dwarf with a big knife)

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jezk | 20 July 2011 - 4:37pm

Don't Look Now,

but..............

(Sorry, couldn't resist it).

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Badlands | 20 July 2011 - 6:09pm

The heart warming standing ovation at the end.

Usually starts with one seated person rising and clapping slowly, then gradually joined by all the other people in the room applauding wildly. Hero/heroine looks sheepish. You can also guarantee that the main protagonist's rival will eventually rise and begrudgingly acquiesce with one eyebrow raised and limp smile.

See Disclosure, most Robin Williams films, last ever episode of The League Of Gentlemen and the excellent parody in Team America.

Oh hang on, none of those are U.S TV dramas. Sorry.

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Zanti Misfit | 20 July 2011 - 8:35pm

I'm sure there'a a perfectly rational explanation for this.

This was rife in the X Files where Scully would always insist that whatever apparently paranormal phenomenon they were investigating could be explained away as a group of stray cats or something, perhaps an enraged badger. The problem is, when every case you've investigated for the last ten years has turned out to be some kind of ghost, alien or genetic mutant, the rational conclusion is that this week's culprit is probably going to be more of the same.

See also Fringe, but not Scooby Doo.

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Rodimus | 21 July 2011 - 2:11pm

Older cynical streetwise urban cop

On second ulcer and third wife is always paired with young keen straight arrow ethnic minority rookie. The cynic may also be a bit of a racist. The rookie cocks up from zeal and learns the value of experience. The cynic sees his younger self and /or is impressed by a feat of intellect or brawn by the rookie, But they row in a way that means the cynic gets to throw some choice racist epiphets he then deeply regrets. There is then a late night and in no way homoerotic bar reconciliation. Then they go and get the bad guys. Cynic gets shot but pulls though. Humorous banter at the end.

You'll know things are improving between the Great Satan and the Islamic world if there is a show on these lines pairing a cynical cop with a straight-arrow suicide bomber

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FakeGeordie | 21 July 2011 - 3:06pm

Bars/clubs in America

It's a legal requirement that all bars & nightclubs feature neon lighting. Oh, and the music they play is at a volume that even a librarian would find too quiet (still doesn't stop just the right amount of people dancing to it though- the dance floor's never empty, nor is it crowded).

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Bob Sacamano | 21 July 2011 - 4:50pm

And the music they play

in these clubs is seldom recognisable. Presumably it would cost too much to license a "proper" record, so all we hear is a kind of generic rock tune of indeterminate origin.

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mojoworking | 22 July 2011 - 2:59am

Examples of the genre?

I'll start.

"48 Hours".

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Twangothan | 21 July 2011 - 6:28pm

sappy partner / wronged innocent wakes up

rubs heads and looks a bit woozy.

Sap: "aah, what happened?"

grizzled lead character with steely eyes: "although I lost you back there, I assume some gang member crept up on you and simply knocked you out with a single blow, leaving you sprawled here in plain view, but only after you had witnessed some small item of essential plot development, which you're going to tell me now"

Sap : "erm yes, they did mention some deadline, a meeting with an even bigger baddie and a very specific location we need to get to in the next scene"

Lead : " Of course, that's just what I had already begun to suspect, their plans being very fiendishly evil indeed. Are you ok to run, slightly limping, off this anonymous looking though much frequented baddie headquarters which you managed to stumble upon earlier?"

Sap : "actually yes I find that I am. Although it was a very harsh pistol whip to the skull I am not bleeding and have no loss of balance even now. It's a wonder they didn't just kick the living shit out of me and throw me in the dock. I mean I am jeopardising their intricate, high value criminal plans and am blatantly soft as shite."

Lead : " yes soft as shite with a slightly foolhardy sense of justice etc. ha hah ha..uh Hey, I parked very nearby just after they had all left, let's drive to that location you mentioned and spy on some henchmen up to no good, although we could just cut from this scene when we're past those spuriously placed oil barrels over there."

Sap : " yes. And perhaps, in the car, I could ask you some pointless questions about your back story while you rapidly freewheel around town without ever stopping at a single junction. You could turn to look at me meaningfully but silently when I eventually hit a raw nerve about your regretful past/dead wife/ex-partner/shameful stripping of rank "

Lead : " just don't get too close to me, I will not be redeemed simply by confronting my issues for the first time in years. That will have to wait until all those baddies are dead and Mr Big is arrested - just after I've done the big stunt finale but before all my plodding colleagues turn up late and mob-handed. Maybe the chief will grudgingly accept that my shoddy lifestyle and appalling work ethic consistently gets well-timed results. Ideally I could reconcile myself with that vague female character I had a sassy exchange with earlier in this episode. She actually loves successful but down at heel men with a few scars and a twinkly eye, despite making it plain she thought the opposite earlier..."

Sap : Um this is no time for idle chatter. Let's go.

*Oil barrels loom*

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Whytey | 22 July 2011 - 1:35am

Manpower levels vs Murder rates

Geographically off-topic: Kurt Wallander presides over the relatively small Swedish city of Ystad, which features several murders every week. Despite this, it only has a police force of 5; Kurt, his 2 mates Martinsson and Svartmann, and 2 gun-toting cadets

Except that is, in about every 4th episode when they summon the riot squad at which point about 25 guys arrive swiftly in a bus, all tooled up to the max. What they hayull do they do the rest of the time?

What with the manning levels being so small, it's fortunate that they only ever have one case to deal with at any one time

Despite the above, Wallander (the Swedish version with subtitles on BBC4 Saturday nights) is wonderful. Plus I get to laugh at the same point every week where the announcer says "And now, with some strong language.... Wallander". It's subtitled!

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Vince Black | 22 July 2011 - 9:00am

"with some strong language.... Wallander". It's subtitled!"

Jag vet - men vissa av oss förstår ju språket, Vince!

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duco01 | 22 July 2011 - 9:03am

Men du läser säkert textningen ändå

Det är väldigt svårt att låta bli.

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Ola Claesson | 22 July 2011 - 9:31am

interesting that you can't ignore the subtitles

(I used Google Translate. I couldn't even get a half decent grasp of French at school.)

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davebigpicture | 22 July 2011 - 9:47am

A enjoy the optional subtitles that is DVD

Sometimes I go for English subtitles, especially with stuff like The Wire. My American urban slang is not really up to date. Well, neither is my English. Or Swedish, to be honest.

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Ola Claesson | 22 July 2011 - 2:05pm

Double post

Single entendre.

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Ola Claesson | 22 July 2011 - 2:03pm

Bloody cliques

They get everywhere.

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Carl Parker | 22 July 2011 - 9:54am

Jag har inget

att säga om den här. Jag vill bara visa att jag kan också lite svenska!

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Jim M | 23 July 2011 - 9:36am

Increase your wordpower

As it happens Mrs Black and I are picking up little bits of Swedish, albeit phonetically

For instance we now know that the swedish for laptop is "leppatup"

And last week we were intrigued to discover that swedish for 50:50 is "50:50" whereas we'd imagined it would be "Swedish word for 50:Swedish word for 50"

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Vince Black | 22 July 2011 - 10:00am

I've noticed

in Wallender the Swedish for 'good' is 'braw" (possibly spelled differently) which was the same sounding word my late grandmother, who originated from Fort Augustus in the Scottish Highlands sometimes used.

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Carl Parker | 22 July 2011 - 1:00pm

Quite a lot of influence from Nordic languages in Scottish

I noticed this on visit to Edinburgh. Probably even more evident up north. It´s a Viking thing.

House in Swedish is hus and in Scottish - huus. There are lots and lots of things like that.

Braw is bra and is not just used in Wallander. I really enjoy these language discussions.

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Ola Claesson | 22 July 2011 - 1:55pm

Also...

Barn and bairn = child

Kyrka and Kirk = church

Unrelated aside: I saw a sign for a place called Skumparpa recently in Sweden. See also fart and slut - words with innocent meanings in Swedish but less nice meanings in english. Presumably swedes find some english words similarly funny. I wonder what they are...

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Sven Garlic | 22 July 2011 - 6:23pm

You wonder, do you?

The word caught is close to kåt (horny). I used to find the phrase "she was caught" very funny when I was young an childish. Also, the American way of pronouncing hurrah can get close to the Swedish word hora (hooker). This was proved in 2008 when James Hetfield from Metallica made 32 000 people very bad indeed without him being aware of it.

To take a quick look at something is called "to take a titt (att ta en titt)". A teacher of mine once wrote a list of movies about about the American Civil war - I was a history student at the time, it wasn´t kindergarden - and called the list "titt-tips", ie a list of recommended movies. I started laughing. After a while someone else joined in. In the end we had to explain it to her. Nice shade of red, that.

I´ve always found it fascinating that someone can be called, say, Dick Hitchcock in GB and America. You wouldn´t find a Snopp Liftarkuk in Sweden. If you would and he is reading this - I wish to apologize.

There are road signs that says FARTHINDER (speed bump) and if you drive fast for a long period of time you can become fartblind.

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Ola Claesson | 22 July 2011 - 7:03pm

Thanks for the info

Interesting

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Sven Garlic | 22 July 2011 - 7:28pm

Another favourite

Buys sounds exactly like bajs, which means poo.

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Ola Claesson | 24 July 2011 - 9:27am

As a fitness fan

I have used the Fartlek method of interval training and recommend it any Chubby Checkers that want quick results.

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jimmyshoes01 | 25 July 2011 - 11:16am

Fartlek?

That´s a funny word too, because lek means play.

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Ola Claesson | 25 July 2011 - 11:22am

My Sprint Coach

(many years ago - I'm totally unfit now), used to translate it literally as 'Speed Play' - we used to go out on the roads (after a weight session) in the winter and do 3 or 4 Km of jogging interspersed with sprints (and of course the obligatory burn-up for the last 100 meters).

Apart from Bra/Braw, there a re loads of fascinating comparisons between Swedish/English/other Germanic languages that we've picked up from Wallander - part of the fun of watching. Also the pronunciation of names/Place names throws us being non-phonetic(al) in many cases.

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Badlands | 26 July 2011 - 12:17pm

The pronounciation of names and places

Is one of my favourite things with the Branagh Wallander.

- He was spotted in Brosorp (Brösarp), but Beddul (Bertil) says he saw him in Stedensdorp (Staffanstorp). Not an actual line, but still.

Speed play in Swedish is intervallträning. Would like to hear Wallander say that.

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Ola Claesson | 26 July 2011 - 3:07pm

Just out of interest

Do any of the actors speak in Southern Swedish accents/dialect? Does such a thing exist, and if so, would it matter to Swedish viewers?

(Over here, regional accents/dialect are taken for granted in gritty Northern police dramas, or those set in 'Larndarn' (I am an expatriate Londoner).

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Badlands | 27 July 2011 - 10:42am

No they don´t and yes it does

The part of Sweden where Ystad is located is called Skåne, which I´m sure you know by now. It belonged to Denmark until 1658 and the accent spoken there is still the obvious result of Danes forced to talk Swedish. A lot of people have problems understanding this accent. So yes, it probably would matter to some Swedish viewers.

Accents in Sweden are less and less present though, more so in the cities than the countryside. I´m sure it´s the same in England. But "skånska" is still very easy to recognise with its diphtongs, ie blending of vowels. And there are various sorts of "skånska" at that.

I live in the south of Sweden, slightly to the north of Skåne, and my accent is also the kind of accent people are keen on impersonating. I´m often told I don´t speak with an accent and people have even refused to believe me when I´ve told them where I´m from. Probably for the better. :)

The first time I went to Liverpool I was slightly disappointed by the lack of proper Scouse.

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Ola Claesson | 27 July 2011 - 11:06am

around the NE of Scotland

quine is the word for girl ... noticed while watching one of the Dragon Tattoo girl movies that kvinna (Swedish for woman) is pronounced much the same way ...

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Glenbervie | 2 November 2011 - 1:18am

Leppatup?

I will use that from now on. :) Some people say 50:50 as femti:femti (spelled femtio:femtio). Fem means five and tio means ten.

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Ola Claesson | 22 July 2011 - 1:57pm

And the dialogue

"Yes....no.......I don't know" (in reaction to confirming a love interest in the love interest.)

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jimmyshoes01 | 22 July 2011 - 9:22am

"This is Angel Dust!!"....

The cop exclaims, after dabbing a dainty pinky in unidentified white powder.

Frank Oz in Trading Places, springs to mind.

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Gabriel Syme | 22 July 2011 - 2:24pm

Suspects in cars can be tracked

by driving 20 yards behind them. They never notice they are being tracked.

An aside
As part of a management team-building beano I was once schooled by some alleged former spooks in the art of surveillance. We were given a "target" (an ex spooks GLW)and told to follow her wherever she went. We followed her - she in her Vauxhall Astra and us in our fully tooled up Mondeo- out of the training centre, and promptly lost her, on a road with only 1 other car on it.

As instructed we rang back to base to be told how to meet up with our target again. It took 7 more phone calls to navigate our way to the local shopping centre (and 1 badly kerbed wheel) where we put our "on foot" training into effect. I tracked her into Debenhams and then stealthily followed someone completely different out the other side and then in and out of WH Smiths, Starbucks, Claire's Accessories and finally La Senza. Talk about no hiding place.

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fortuneight | 22 July 2011 - 3:00pm

Seatbelts

Seatbelts are never worn, & collisions never lead to injury.

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jackthebiscuit | 22 July 2011 - 3:21pm

Which of course leads us to

the inevitable scattering of rubbish bins / vegetable stalls when the chase is on and the reversing lorry that always knows it has to block the cops, but never impedes the bad guys.

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Carl Parker | 22 July 2011 - 5:57pm

The cops slowly walking down the dingy dead end street

think the bad guy is hiding behind one of the dumpsters or around all the garbage. They can hear someone trying not to be heard in there. YES! BECAUSE IT CAN`T POSSIBLY BE ANOTHER BLOODY CAT, CAN IT? THAT WOULD CERTAINLY BE THE FIRST TIME THAT EVER HAPPEND! OMG!

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Ola Claesson | 22 July 2011 - 7:07pm

Cats on TV

and they just can't show a cat in any scene, without a loud 'miaou'! Just in case you didn't notice?

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Londonjazzer | 23 July 2011 - 2:03pm

A family member gets

A family member gets innocently caught up in the crime.

Usually down to

a) the protagonist arriving at the lead detective's remote country home after dark when his spouse/child is alone making an elaborate cup of tea requiring them to walk from room to room, all of which have the lights on and the curtains open.

b) the protagonist is the lolly-pop man at the lead detective's child's school but remains beyond suspicion because the lead detective's child actually lives with his estranged spouse (they split up because of his workaholism/alcoholism inability to settle into family situation. what with him being a bit of a maverick and she never quite understood what drove him on in such a nihilistic world)

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David_Jockney | 22 July 2011 - 8:07pm

As I watched Quincey...

at the weekend, a theme occured that's been replayed on many US cop-style shows. Quincey/Jessica Fletcher/Columbo will all, at some point, be involved in an episode where they go and visit someone, only for there to be a murder in the town where they're staying.

Why is it that the local sheriff called in to deal with the case will always be an absolute duffer? They are always, to a man, completely rubbish. Especially on Murder she Wrote, where it seems that to attain the status of Sheriff, you musn't - under any circumstances - display the slightest hint of intelligence, insight or ability.

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peterthecook | 25 July 2011 - 11:05am

How come

Chief Inspector Japp is always called in to investigate the case that Poirot is also involved with,no matter where in the country?

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hubertrawlinson | 25 July 2011 - 11:16am

Without

wishing to take this too seriously, I believe that in the "olden days" calling "Scotland Yard" was the accepted way of solving crimes outside London that went beyond a bit of apple scrumping. Like in "The suspicions of Mr Whicher" or indeed The Moonstone

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SouthernExile | 26 July 2011 - 12:44pm

It was said tongue firmly in cheek

but why is it always Japp? surely he can't have been the only detective.

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hubertrawlinson | 26 July 2011 - 8:18pm

Homes

are either 3 storey palatial mansions with vast sweeping staircases, chandeliers and bespoke kitchens .... or dilapidated shacks squeezed between a railway goods yard and the interstate, with electricity pylons buzzing menacingly overhead. There is no in-between.

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Steerpike | 25 July 2011 - 11:46am

In 'Morse', there is only One Hotel in Oxford

The Randolph must be absolutely rammed all the time !

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Badlands | 26 July 2011 - 12:18pm

Morse - multiple murders

Going outside the parameters of the thread, but having been lured into watching Morse having been told how absolutely wonderful it was, I gave up after a few episodes becasue I got fed up with the bizarre situation whereby it created its own internalised cliche - a second (or third) murder would always be committed to cover up the first one.

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Carl Parker | 26 July 2011 - 1:23pm

Going outside the parameters of the thread

Going outside the parameters of the thread.

Sorry, that that would never do, what kind of board do you think this is?

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jackthebiscuit | 26 July 2011 - 8:52pm

Morse and Lewis

Rarely left sight of the Dreaming Spires or their hifalutin' inhabitants. Did either of them ever have to clear up after a squalid fight between two druggies on the Blackbird Leys estate?

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johnlyons121 | 6 August 2011 - 8:42am

The Randolph...

...must be, er, helpful to film companies, because it gets used for everything.

In Shadowlands, for example, CS Lewis and Joy Davidman were shown meeting at the Randolph, when they actually met at the Eastgate Hotel (which still exists).

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Inky Fingers | 26 July 2011 - 2:54pm

That 555 Area Code/Exchange

must be creaking at the seams by now...............

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Badlands | 26 July 2011 - 1:57pm

Edinburgh

has lots of 555 numbers (0131 555 xxxx)

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Glenbervie | 2 November 2011 - 1:13am

Coma

COP #1: "Just got word from the hospital. Kopowski's in a coma!"

COP #2: "He's a fighter - he'll pull through!"

This also seems to get used on every British soap, where no character ever goes to hospital other than to give birth or be in a coma.

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peterthecook | 26 July 2011 - 3:41pm

Prompted by the remark about Marvin Gaye

playing darts in a.n. other thread..
Going by TV, There appears to be a dart board on the back of every bedroom door in the U.S. Yet a country of 300 million people has never produced a decent professional darts player*. Just by messing about in a Swedish pub for a couple of weeks Marvin probably became the US number one..

*I expect to be corrected, but I'll stick my neck out anyway

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STD | 26 July 2011 - 5:23pm

Good point

Very observant.

I checked the rankings and the highest-ranked US player is at #59.

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Brookster | 27 July 2011 - 11:25am

*Correction coming

Think it's a pub in Ostend and, yes, Marve did become US no 1

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ianess | 2 November 2011 - 12:21am

Upset

Upset people always sweep everything off the desk or kitchen surfaces - why? I've never seen anyone do that in real life.

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Neil Jung | 10 August 2011 - 12:21pm

"I had nowhere else to go"

Revelation occurs.

It's night.

Man knocks on door.

Woman answers. Dressing Gown. Hair attractively messy.

Man: "I'm sorry. I had nowhere else to go"

(See also "I didn't know where else to go").

Enters woman's home. Child appears. We didn't know she had a child.

Later.
Man: "I'm going."
Woman: "Where?"
Man: "Away."

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kidpresentable | 1 November 2011 - 11:34pm

soapy affairs

bloke has affair and wife/girlfriend finds out. bad tempered scene occurs with the following dialogue:

bloke: returns home looking sheepish but not realising he's been rumbled.

woman: "where have you been all night?"

bloke: "sorry babe, I was working late/couldn't get away from a works party/I went out for a walk and lost track of the time".

woman: "did you think I'd never find out. she's my sister for gawd sake. how long have you been screwing her you bastard"

bloke: "oh c'mon babes, it was just a few times. it didn't mean anything. I love you. You're the only one for me."

woman: "who are you kidding? you screw my sister, the little tramp, and you tell me it doesnt mean anything"

bloke: "look, she came onto me, what was I supposed to do? she was a bit down after breaking up with [insert name of other male character in soap) and it was only a bit of fun. youre taking this far too seriously, get over it will you"

woman: looks unsure of herself and a bit guilty for bringing it up. big make up, hugs and kisses etc. bloke looks pensive but relieved. credits roll.

if only real life was like this.

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rocker43 | 2 November 2011 - 12:21am

"if only real life was like this."

Do you fancy your sister-in-law then, rocker!? :-)

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Red Umpire | 2 November 2011 - 10:42am

some things

are best not discussed on websites.

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rocker43 | 2 November 2011 - 10:20pm
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