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Twitter, Happier
I've heard a lot of discussion about Twitter being a force for evil lately.
I just want to stick up for it.
Yes, like lots of people, I’m fed up with tabloid journalists creating page after page of ‘celebnonentity nooze’ by simply reading some Z-lister’s tweets.
And yes, the ‘twitchfork mobs’ are annoying - when it seems like everyone leaps in to have an opinion on the latest offensive word used by some has-been comedian, thus giving them the oxygen of publicity they so desperately crave.
But it’s like blaming the garden fence for gossip.
If you go searching randomly round Twitter you will find some AWFUL conversations. But if you go searching randomly round the internet, you'd do the same. If you dialled a random phone number, there is probably a strong chance the person on the other end would be a knob. If you overhead two random idiots chatting in a pub you might wish you could scrub your ears out with bleach and never hear again.
But that's if you look at Twitter without getting involved. When you join up, you choose who to follow. Your timeline is completely blank until you decide whose tweets show up there. So you are in complete control.
I go on Twitter for all sorts of reasons. It’s not to talk about people behind their back. It’s not to tell people what I had for dinner (which is the laziest criticism of the medium, and is repeated so often it’s actually way more annoying than anyone telling you what they had for dinner).
It’s to crack silly jokes.
To talk about music, films, telly, books, and farts.
To share links to features, news, free music downloads, and other things that rock my world.
I’ve found out about podcasts, blogs and art made by some really talented members of the Word Massive.
And they inspired me to start my own blog, which I would never have done without the encouragement from people on Twitter, and the knowledge that SOMEONE at least would read it.
A friend of a friend turned out to be the parent to a little boy with the exact same rare chromosome disorder my daughter has, and we met up in real life, which was brilliant.
Sometimes conversations start that I’m not comfortable with. I steer clear, or if I really don’t like what someone’s saying, I'll challenge them about it (sometimes by DM to keep it just a two-way conversation). Or I unfollow them.
Sometimes, someone comes up with something so funny, silly, intriguing or interesting, that I can’t keep away. Particularly if Mr Drakeygirl is on nights, and I don’t want to ring a mate to chat because it’s too late, but I just want a bit of lovely human interaction.
So, it’s not for everyone. It’s also very confusing at first. And it takes a while to sort out how to reply, who to follow, what you really want to use if for.
But I like it. It’s what you make it.
Video is Talk Talk - Life's What You Make It. Because I am corny, and literal.
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@drakeygirl wrote:
LOL. Just stuck it to those Luddite knobs on the blog #backmeup
(Insert winking icon)
LOLZ
Twitter proved its worth to me the moment Neil Finn responded to my question about whether thirty five minutes was too short for an album these days. For a moment, I felt like Murray Hewitt.
I've had a few responses from Mr Finn
Guaranteed to make one's day. He's quite good on the Twitter.
But seriously...
It is similar to most things. Useful if used wisely. Sadly, I couldn't use it wisely so I de-activated. Ditto Facebook. I am disconnected.
I haven't joined Facebook
'cos I don't think *Facebook* can use it wisely ;-)
Still a billion [*] people can't be wrong eh ?
[* predicted for this year]
Facebook
Ever wondered whether your old classmates would become racists? Now you can find out!
That,Sir
is wonderful and deserving of more than an up arrow,
Not quite sure how one checks out
of Hotel Facebook, see e.g. prescient artcle by Andrew Brown
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/dec/20/facebook.privacy
But fascinated to see FB's latest effort "on behalf"
of their users http://techcrunch.com/2012/01/24/facebook-timeline-now-open-to-all-users...
And watch out for the bots
http://www.stateofsearch.com/how-to-recognize-twitter-bots-6-signals-to-...
(haven't yet gone to see if botornot.com has been taken, one feels it should be).
As an aside, how long ago would it have to have been before none of us could have identified the meaning of the present discussion without a clue ? 3 yrs ? 5 yrs ? 10 yrs ?
Future shock, eh ?
FB started in 2004, Twitter in 2006
but given that they both needed time to hit critical mass, i'd say most people wouldn't have known about both and given both a go until 2008/09 maybe ...
so more than 3-4 years ago, a lot of people reading this thread would have said, 'Eh?'
For business reasons
I've had use both Facebook and Twitter. Facebook seems pretty awful to me, and I was going to close it down, but my daughter insists that it's a useful tool. However, I'm coming to the conclusion that Twitter has some very positive qualities. It's great if you like breaking news. It's a force for democracy: to have Jon Snow telling you that he's interviewing a cabinet minister about a subject and asking you to tweet questions, is opening up an otherwise closed door. I've had tweets from people I admire, saying positive things about me, and that's a bonus for creative people who are always plagued by self doubt. And some people are simply very witty and funny (Arthur Smith is a hoot). It's also a good discipline to get a message across in 140 characters, not unlike writing a 2min 30secs song. I like it, the more I use it.
Here's Jon Snow's view of Twitter,
tweeting his followers to have a look at the lecture he gave last night. The mention is some way down. "My last night's Cudlipp Memorial Lecture lecture text": http://bit.ly/wpcjcQ
So
it's not just a way to shout at the radio/television and ensure that more people hear you than just your long suffering family ?
That's a relief.
I don't tweet much
but I do enjoy dropping in whenever I can. When I'm abroad I find it's a great way of feeling connected. I could get by without it but I like the fact that I don't have to.
I don't accept your premise
I hadn't noticed anyone criticising Twitter as a medium. It's just a tool, as are some of the people who use it.
Twitter = good. Talking about people behind their backs = a force for evil.
Oh, I've come across lots of criticisms of Twitter as a medium.
That's why I wrote this blog entry.
The 'twitchfork mob' criticism has been regularly voiced in the press recently and I've had at least three people say to me personally: "What on earth do you want to go on Twitter for?" (then trotting out the 'what you had for dinner' argument, as mentioned).
With regards to the talking behind people's backs bit, I completely agree with you. That's another reason why I wanted to write the post. I wanted to point out that there are plenty of valid and fun reasons to use Twitter. That isn't one of them. Don't want to read it. Don't want to take part in it.
My timeline is public. And I'm quite happy for anyone to read what I've written. Except perhaps my mother, because I have been known, on occasion, to swear.
When you say ...
... "talking about people behind their backs = a force of evil" - do you just mean on Twitter, or in general?
That's an odd question
Do you want to think about it for a bit and let me know if i still need to answer it?
Alright...
... you're the boss.
Same as the
old boss : )
It may be an odd question
But it's a very odd world these days, c.f.
http://thenextweb.com/twitter/2011/11/09/a-masterclass-in-twitter-storyt...
http://thenextweb.com/twitter/2012/01/20/politicians-potentially-incrimi...
and I for one haven't got my head around it ...
"Behind their backs".
Posting something on an easily accessible form in full view on the internet hardly fits that definition, does it? I'm more worried about what they get up to at these 'mingles' of theirs.
It's 'sort of' public
For example I don't know what your Twitter name is, so I'm not following you, so you could say something about me on Twitter and I wouldn't know.
And, hey, don't diss the mingles even in jest. They're great fun.
Do you ever talk about
Do you ever talk about things that have appeared on the blog?
Ooh, good point
A bit, maybe, sometimes. It's the common denominator after all. I don't recall it ever being a big old bitchfest though.
With you Drakey.
When people used to communicate with each other by letter I don't remember that paper was referred to as a 'force for evil'. Twitter is what you make it. I got bored with Stephen Fry so I unfollowed him. Eamonn Forde makes me chuckle a lot (I am literally *on a bus*) and then laugh out loud (he WILL get himself arrested for photographing people on the train!)so I stick with him. I follow a few of the Massive, a few journos, a few musos and a few mates. James Pearce tweeting from the trial of the Pakistani cricketers (and, today, Harry Redknapp's trial) is a brilliant use of the medium. Twitter was invented for Danny Baker. So, stop stressing everyone!
BTW, great choice of track. Along with 'It's My Life' and 'Give It Up' this is in the Holy Trinity of Talk Talk tracks.
Undecided and open to persuasion
Still fighting my way around it and trying to decide if it’s worth my while. Like many applications these days it comes as a blank shell with little guidance to a new user. It sounds great the way Drakey describes it and I admire her networking abilities and the experience that enables her to self police.
My problem is that a majority of the people I know and need to communicate with, are not on it. Interestingly, it rarely gets a mention at work, none of my family seem bothered and the only circles I mix in that do take an interest are connected with this blog. It’s that lack of a starting position that limits its relevance to me.
I do use it to follow various sporting links and indeed follow a few interesting people in the media and entertainment world. I believe I am able to find out about train problems (usually while I’m experiencing them, but it’s a start!) and I have found out about local events that I may otherwise been unaware of.
Without stereotyping unduly, I wonder if it appeals more to certain groups than others. My 17 year old daughter only joined because I did, and none of her friends are on it. Her generation is still cheering for facebook.
At the other end of the scale, people my age are beginning to accept that there are alternatives to email, but texting and blogging on forums is still state of the art. The boundaries are clear and easily understood. Maybe Twitter appeals more to the 30 to 40 age bracket. (No evidence to support this other than personal observation.)
I enjoy contributing to the relatively safe environment that this forum provides. I think that the community has been diluted somewhat by other communication methods like twitter. That's clearly the way of things, and there's no avoiding it.
I’m genuinely open to persuasion on this but I think I have more than enough information coming at me from all sides.
Anyway, by the time I get the hang of twitter, all you buggers will have moved onto something else that will redefine the word “baffling”. I’ve seen a few come and go. I used to work in a BT Telex exchange for gawds sake. Now that was state of the art. They even used to have one on Grandstand.
Reading
I read much more than I write, mostly journalists and political commentators plus the odd scurrilous poster like The Queen and Miss Profanity. I occasionally have a splurge of tweeting, typically late at night in cups, and usually with Lenny.
All things to all
Twitter is a virtual pub, without the hangover unless you want one; it's an extension of my front room, it's where those water cooler discussions happen in the 21st century, at least in this decade, it's overhearing people's thoughts like random mad people walking down the street talking to themselves. And you can just walk away from it if it annoys you.
I like it, it's a lot like the comments sections in music blogs used to be when people used to frequent them. It's no coincidence that several bloggers I've known for years are spending more time there than on their blogs.
Started as Facebooker, now a Twit
Facebook was always my social network of choice (excepting, this blog, my blog, other blogs) - but of late, and through a sequence of face(book)lifts - it's become Piccadilly Circus. Blazing away and top heavy with a scrolling roll-call of updates, timelines and twaddle I wouldn't give you tuppence ha'penny for.
Whereas Twitter has remained a pocket sized communicator - and a scrolling source of info, natter and banter.
I have a question,
If I follow someone, when they 'Tweet' do I automatically receive a text of said tweet? And, assuming I do, who pays for the text? I assume, simply because it seems logical that if I tweet something to my thousands of followers that I would not pay for all the text messages, am I right? Have I just answered my own question?
No texts
You don't get a text. You go to the Twitter website or via an app and see the whole string of messages there. If you get mentioned your can set it to email you (?? Text??) but all you're paying is your Internet connection.
Twitter is free
So nobody gets charged for anything. It's not the same as texting, which you pay your phone provider for.
Your timeline will fill up with a list of tweets (in real time) from ONLY the people you follow. If you start a message with @personsname, then only that person and people who follow them and you will see that message. Clear? :-)
I was under the impression...
... that anyone can read anyone else's tweets - except direct messages.
That's right, you can.
But you have to actively search for someone to view their timeline, or look for tweets that mention them by name.
In general, if you just go to your timeline, the only tweets that show up are the ones that I mentioned...
ReTweets
ReTweets can be tedious. Some people retweet all sorts of crap but you can block their retweets and only see their self originated ones.
smartphones have made a big difference to Twitter
because the click-through links from Tweets are then much more accessible and will pop up in your browser (i'm still struggling with a BlackBerry 8900 and its poor processor doesn't have the oomph)
Hey Drakey...
I'm just sorry you think the chances very high that random phone call will result in a 'knob' answering.
I'm sure most people are not so bad are they?
No, most people aren't bad at all.
In fact, I genuinely do think there's a very high ratio of 'nice' to 'knobs' in this world. It was a bit of throwaway exaggeration, there.
However, the people that keep making random phone calls to me in the middle of dinner to try to sell me Payment Protection Insurance - they are definitely knobs.*
*Then again, they're only doing their job, and they've got to put food on the table, and...oh God, this tolerance stuff is hard, isn't it?
I had a phase years back of
calling random numbers in (say) Australia and just saying "hi I'm calling from the uk, I was bored and thought I'd see who's out there"
You'd be surprised how often people chatted for a while.
Ditto
In school we used to go to the payphone and ring numbers in the USA, just to hear a real-life American voice.
Then we'd hang up.
I once spent a very pleasant hour
speaking with an elderly American lady who had called 'a wrong number' but who turned out to be perfectly charming. Incredibly so, considering that it was five in the morning when I answered the phone. We talked about Westerns.
Conversely,the random call to the famous
Was the subject of one of Alan Coren's greatest ever pieces, "Let us now phone famous men", with this (imaginary ?) description of the Pope's emissary explaining why His Holiness couldn't come to the phone right now:
---via Wikiquote
Also liked Vulpes', er, spin, on the idea at http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/strange-contacts
Sshh.. I've written a note.
It says "Captain Underpants smells of wee and eats Tesco Value tinned carrots"
Pass it on. Don't let him see it, though.
The wee bit is true
but Tesco? Never! SHOP LOCAL!!!
Twitter Linked To Facebook Account
Probably use Twitter wrongly but it's linked to the Facebook page which drags the FB status to twitter. As it only deals with Liverpool music scene still get new followers each day. Likewise the Facebook page grows daily but I don't use Facebook for personal updates.
I love Twitter
for the reasons that Drakey states above. I tend to pop on there if I've got five minutes to kill during the day, or if I get a message from someone else. It can bring a fantastic sense of occasion - I sat up most of the night, during the last general election, watching the results come in on the tv, and the various reactions on twitter.
there's often a really interesting discussion around other programmes like Question Time (and Strictly Come Dancing. Something for everybody). Twitter's actually (for me at least) a compelling reason to watch "big" TV programmes live.
@traceythorn
I had to stop following Tracy Thorn during X Factor because all she did was wittier on about it. Happily it's over now so I'm following her again! I had a fun exchange with Ben Watt when I told him talented middle class people sneering at chavvy no hopers on Twitter was uncool. Fun for days.
It looks fun
But I have absolutely no idea how to make it go. I fear this may be a sign of getting old.
Easy
1. Go here. https://mobile.twitter.com/session/new?force=1
2. Sign up. Use Word name for ease of finding you.
3. Search for a few people you know and see who they're following and follow them. Add others at will.
All the above takes about 5 minutes.