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This morning the family and I went to a press screening of Fantastic Mr Fox, which is a really top notch film by the way.
Most of the audience were under ten - accompanied by a smattering of adults. As we entered the cinema, The Tyneside, a great indie picture house, we were told to turn off our mobiles and cameras by two bouncers. The film started and then the two goons watched the audience from the side of the screen with night vision cameras.
I know piracy is bringing down civilisation as it stands - but for fucks sake, an audience of kids being scoped whilst watching a film?
Pitiful.

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The Hype Machine

is working though. I listened to last week's Mayo/Kermode podcast this morning and heard Somon saying he'd seen it but had to sign something saying he wouldn't review it, today's Guardian has a free audio cd of it read by Roald Dahl, I believe and then I stick a box of Shreddies in my trolley and the book is attached to the box as a freebie. Can't say I'd ever heard of it before this morning.

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badartdog | 17 October 2009 - 8:51pm

I walked past my local Gap shop yesterday...

and wondered why there was a fox mannequin in the window. Then I saw the advertising tie-in for the film.

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Patrick Crowther | 17 October 2009 - 9:13pm

But its the Kids

that know how to upload this stuff. The bouncers have done their research.

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Leedsboy | 17 October 2009 - 10:38pm

What ...

the under 10's? They were too fascinated by the face painting, popcorn and balloon modelers to pirate a film.

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Mr Drayton | 18 October 2009 - 1:00pm

It's those who film it, then burn it.

Then flog it pre-release at the local car boot for £5 a time the next morning.

It is stealing, pure and simple. Done by criminals. Frequently on a large scale. And if the crims are getting their kids to do the donkey work then others need to be on the lookout. It is pitiful in its way, Mr Drayton, but it is also a way of stopping naughty men from profiting from the efforts of others.

If you've ever downloaded a film illegally or purchased a DVD from Dodgy Dave down the pub..

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Lenny Law | 17 October 2009 - 11:13pm

I thought

it was Knock-Off Nigel

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Black Type | 17 October 2009 - 11:56pm

Surely ...

... they have to defend themselves against anyone who wanted to pirate the film and would see this showing as an opportunity to do so with less supervision? So long as the bouncers and goons were civil to the adults, and suitably genial to the children, I think they're probably a neccessary evil.

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Gatz | 17 October 2009 - 11:56pm

Gatz sums it up.

Much better than I did.

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Lenny Law | 18 October 2009 - 12:41am

Pssssst!

Wanna buy a copy of Fantastic Mr Fox? Filmed on a mobile phone from a 27th row cinema seat. There's very little crisp-eating interruption, marginal amounts of off-camera conversation, and only three people cross the screen to go to the loo. It's not even out yet! Fiver it's yours. No? Ok then, 2 copies for three quid? No it's not widescreen, you can watch it on any telly. I'm not sure about Hi-Def; what's that? You don't need that rubbish. This is expertly shot. Look, I'll throw in a bootleg of the X-Factor rehearsals OK? 99p then. I was up all night burning these. Two for a quid?

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Vulpes Vulpes | 18 October 2009 - 9:02am

I hope you flicked them the Vs

under cover of darkness, Mr Drayton.

I'd hate to have to sit through a movie knowing full well I was being watched by the central scrutineer's muppets through a night-vision camera, it's downright creepy.

If it had been an audience of hardened hacks, then maybe it's fair enough, but from your description this sounds like boorish jobsworthiness.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 18 October 2009 - 9:07am

They've been doing it for a while

At university, two or three years ago, I used to go to a few press screenings after being tipped off by a film society. Nine times out of ten, there'd be a security chap to check that no-one was smuggling in a camcorder or such.

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Rob Pook | 18 October 2009 - 11:02am

This is nonsense

the knock of version you can buy and or download aren't filmed in regional cinemas in Britain. A friend was offered the DVD of a Spiderman the morning it was released as he walked through the market on the way to the pictures to see it. It's mostly done in the supply chain to the kosher dvd production plants people sell copies/nick them.
As I read elsewhere (apologies can't remember the blog) if cinemas still had ushers to help/police customers many of the things that reduce the quality of cinemagoing would be minimised ie anti-social talking and texting, films going out of focus (ie the usher go and shout at the projectionist) and yes if filming is going on deter that.
People buy knock dvd's partly because of the cost (a family of 4 going to a 3d kid's film easily pushes £60 in London) but also because the experience has deteriorated. Also as was pointed out elsewhere once a copy has been made why bother to police further copies the money would be better spent tackling the institualised piracy rather than alienating further the customers you already have.
This bouncer thing is just another link in the chain of this piracy idiocy.

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Chris G | 18 October 2009 - 11:19am

Ushers would need stab vests and stun guns these days.

Our local multiplex (ha! what an oxymoron - it's in what was once a nice field somewhere way beyond the edge of town) has special 'sensible well behaved adults only' screenings, where the audience is limited to those over 18, and the ground rules say you don't blather all the way through the movie or text your mates frenetically.

I imagine it's so that the grown ups can go to the cinema and watch a film under reasonable conditions, while presumably sending their poorly brought up spawn to a regular screening to ruin someone else's evening.

I love the cinema. Shame the audience is often peppered with morons.

/grump

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Vulpes Vulpes | 18 October 2009 - 2:19pm

we have much the same

it's in a field that use to be Henry VIII hunting ground it's called Curzon Soho.. by the time you've shelled out for a ticket and a tiny beer at £4 it keeps the riff raff out....
But the point is well made make cinemas nice places to go and people will pay for the privilege

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Chris G | 18 October 2009 - 2:37pm

Bouncers?

Did someone check they were actually bouncers, and not just people who like to watch children in the dark without being questioned as to their motives?

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badger_king | 18 October 2009 - 2:56pm

we are rather

sheep like in these matters!

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Chris G | 18 October 2009 - 3:58pm
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