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Toupees we have loved
Posted by Brookster on 29 December 2011 - 12:16am.

I'm only starting this thread as Diddy David Hamilton is on TV and there apears to be a small mammal sleeping on his head. The picture does not do it justice.
We'll take the Shatner as a given.
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Wigs, weaves and...
thatches!
I've been doing this on my Twitter stream for a while.
I'll repost when I can work out how to do so.
The Jeff Beck mystery rolls ever onwards...
...here he is in June 2011, with former Mahavishnu Orchestra maestro Narada Michael Walden on drums/vocals.
It's a terrific performance - but what *IS* going on on Beck's head?
This ongoing speculation
about Beck's barnet has me puzzled. I've been up close and personal with the man (oo-er) and apart from the colour (obviously) it all seemed real enough.
Unless he has a selection of syrups of varying lengths (his hair is somewhat longer in that clip than the last few times I've seen him, for example) then I'm giving the bloke the benefit of the doubt.
Ditto Ron Wood.
Not lightly is the wisdom of Mojo Working tossed aside...
...and yet... there's *something* fishy going on there!
here's a few more phonies:
Iain Paice
Richie Blackmore
Paul Rodgers
...and are we suspicious about Biff from Saxon?
Paice has given up the battle
and wears a bandana these days.
You're right about Blackmore. In his Rainbow days, his hair was looking very thin and wispy indeed. Now he sports a quite startlingly luxurious curly thatch.
Paul Rodgers is a new one on me though and I confess to being shocked and somewhat saddened at the thought of the best-ever British vocalist, bar none, wearing a syrup.
Yes, I don't know why he feels the need...
...but you just need to look at 80s pics/clips and recent ones. It's like seeing pics of Jimmy White the snooker player before and after whatever it is on his head (actually, whatever it is it looks very similar to Rodgers' - maybe they share a WigMeister?)
And as for Terry Wogan and Bruce Forsyth, you'd think they'd just wise up at this stage in the game, wouldn't you?
It's a weave,
rather than a full blown syrup, in PR's case. There are some pics from a few years back where he was wearing a bandana full time and then, hey presto! Saw him live this year and it looks like he has given up the struggle. It was starting to look a bit thin. The voice, you'll be pleased to know, mojo, was in absolutely stonking form.
Cheers, naillb
It's one of those voices that has never declined with age. I watched a Bad Company DVD filmed just a few years ago and, as you say, Rodgers is singing as good as ever.
The wonderful and frightening world of
Phil Spector
You're saying those are wigs, Doctor?
...No! Surely you're mistaken!?!
hair bear bunch
the first one is feckin' spectacular!
Oooh oooh
Mr Peevly... the bears are escaping.
The one on the left should be captioned
"Phil goes nuclear".
seriously, isn't this the current Loose Women panel?
Speaking of toupees (and strange blokes)
Another strange man that my mum dated briefly in my youth (she relly knew how to pick them...) was a chef at a restaurant where my sister had eaten lunch every day when she worked in an office next door, many years earlier.
When he was introduced to the two of us he recognized her and was afraid that she would recognize him and notice that something had changed...so after saying hallo he grabbed hold of his impressive hair, lifted it right up above his head and said;
"You see, it's a toupee".
A bit of a shock for all of us, and quite unnecessary since my sister had no idea who he was until he told her, after that unexpected reveal.
For years after we would greet each other by miming lifting off a wig while yelling "It's a toupee, you see!"
(I should write a book called "1001 knights, and not a single one in shining armour: the strange dating life of my mum")
Then there's this:
"And now I'd like to perform one of my lesser-known songs, Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together on me Bonce and Grooving with Reg"
Come Up And Weave Me (Make Me Smile )
Steve Harley had an intriguing midlife tonsorial transformation from this...
to this...
.
Personally I think it makes him look even more irresistable ( right, ladies?)
What a dick
he was on Celebrity Mastermind over Xmas (yeah I know) I was wondering about that thatch.
"You were huge in the 1970s..." says John Humphreys
"I Still am..I just don't get played on the radio anymore" sneers the One Hit Wonder.
Oh literally F*ck off! Booo!
So glad he got beaten by Simon Day..a much more talented man, and clearly at ease with his lack of barnet.
Steve Harley at the BBC Radio 2 Folk Awards a fews years back
... was once the subject of discussion on a Word Podcast I believe. Harley's unbelievable Alan Partridgesque mix of self belief and bitterness when he went up to present an award and chose to talk about how great Cockney Rebel were instead totally killed all the good feeling in the room ( not to mention an excruciating long-winded joke involving a pun on the word "folk" too ).
I've always thought the man a 3rd rate Ray Davies, with all the same grumpy arrogance but without the hits or the back catalogue to back it up
He was exactly the same when he was interviewed...
... on the Radcliffe & Maconie show a few weeks ago. He's a bitter little man with a stupid syrup.
I recall Harley presenting Radio 2's Sounds Of The 70s years ago
I only used to listen because it would come on after Mark Radcliffe's evening show and I was usually too tired to change the station. I soon noticed there was virtually no punk or new wave featured, which seemed unfair for a show supposedly playing 70's music. This wasn't a surprise as I knew Harley hated the arrival of punk (possibly because his chart success went AWOL around the same time) so for a laugh I e-mailed in a request for The Jam. I was gobsmacked to hear Harley play Down In The Tube Station At Midnight the following week, but he couldn't resist getting in a snidey little dig accusing this classic song of lacking originality and owing everything to Pete Townshend and the early Who.
This quote from Harley from the NME in 1977 might explain why he's such a bitter grump:
"I set out to be a winner. I don't want to lose. I spent four years in a hospital but I never expected favours from anyone. I don't give sympathy because I don't expect it. Nice guys don't make it. "
What about the sympathy of the doctors and nurse who looked after you all that time, Steve? Silly bald twit
Harley's finest Sounds of The 70s moment...
...was when he revealed that Lindisfarne's Lady Eleanor was written by Rod Hull.
Tragedy
Tragedy
When your wig looks dead and it's on your head
Tragedy!
When you've got a weave no-one believes
etc
Why do they do it?
I just don't understand why any male would resort to wearing a 'highland jig'. Male pattern baldness is hardly uncommon, after all - and doesn't their sense of vanity extend to not wishing to look ridiculous? I find it difficult to take such people seriously.
In a related vein, any man who dyes his hair is simply not to be trusted. Fact. Apart from Roy Wood, obviously.
Weller
Read an interview with him once and he pointed out that if you are going bald, you only have 2 choices, matt of gloss. Uncommonly sound advice.
Tom Jones looks so much better since he embraced his
natural greyness, don't you think?
So, Lando, do you trust him now that he's given up the diabolical look?
I'd trust him with my wallet
But not with my wife.
Does your missus
have a thing about goat-eyed septuagenarians? ;-)
the worst barnet in the history of the movies...
....has got to be Joe Pesci's piece in JFK. And just watch how it slips down his forehead between editing cuts in the first few seconds of this sequence. I noticed this the first time I saw the movie.
It took an Oscar for best film editing!
Any other bad movie barnets?
Ian McKellen as John Profumo in Scandal
Unable to load images at the moment, but McKellen's bizarre bald wig in this flick made him look more like a character out of The Mikado
I'm sure the bad Pesci toop is deliberate
Don't know how historically accurate the portrayal is, but the David Ferrie character is certainly presented as troubled, unhealthy, paranoid and increasingly unpredictable. According to Wikipedia, Ferrie made his own wigs and false eyebrows.
Here's the real Ferrie
Pesci looks natural by comparison. I took the image from this interesting write up on him: http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/05th_Issue/ferrie.html
interesting thanks.
didn't know that background on Ferrie. The Kennedy assassination is endless fascinating: who was responsible? who had most to gain? and who covered up those aspects which have since led to the doubts about Oswald operating alone?
The Kennedy assassination is endlessly fascinating to me too
...and the only conspiracy theory I really believe in. I won't get into an obsesssive rant here, but I just can't believe Oswald could've fired 3 shots in six seconds on a crappy ex-Italian army bolt action rifle with a defective telescopic sight and manage to get the fatal headshot with his last bullet at such a weird angle from the book depository. Being murdered soon after himself by the owner of the local Mafia titty bar before he could testify didn't help matters either
No conspiracy
I've read a lot on the Kennedy assassination and I have concluded that Oswald actually did act alone. To deal with the specific points you made:-
1 Oswald had over 8 seconds to fire the 3 shots. (First shot about frame 160 of the Zapruder film. Third shot at frame 313 of the film. As the film speed is 18 frames per second, it is easy to work out how much time Oswald actually had.)
2 The scope was defective but
(a) it could have been damaged when it was placed behind the boxes on the 6th floor
(b) Oswald might have used the iron sights to home in on the target rather than the telescopic sights
3 Although the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle was from the Second World War it was a perfectly serviceable weapon. It was actually used by the Italian army in shooting competitions
4 The angle from the Book Depository to the President was not a weird angle at all but a straight line.
5 Oswald's murder certainly didn't help matters but it seems unlikely that Jack Ruby had any Mafia connections. A Mafia hitman does not shoot his victim in the stomach as the victim might survive.
I presume that
by 'read a lot', you may mean Posner and Bugliosi, both of whose books have been comprehensively shredded. Try the CTKA website or 'JFK and the Unspeakable' instead.
As regards your points:-
1. Where did JFK's throat wound (attested to by Parkland surgeons) come from? Do you sincerely believe the 'single bullet theory'? Even John Connally believes he was hit after JFK. Why is the 'magic' bullet that caused all these wounds and bone breakages so pristine? What about the wound in JFK's back that has no exit? What about the shot that hit the kerb and caused a bystander (Tague) to be hit by a piece of paving? Do you sincerely believe that a shot from behind could cause JFK to be violently forced backward? Do you believe that a shot from behind could cause the patrolman riding behind to be sprayed by blood and brain matter? Why was there a massive exit hole in the back of JFK's skull (also attested to by Parkland doctors)? How did Oswald get to the lunchroom in just over a minute and be found drinking a coke and not out of breath. As two others were on the stairs at the time, how did Oswald get by them on these narrow stairs to the lunchroom from the 6th floor without them seeing him.
2. Why did the sharpshooters hired to re-create the shooting all fail to do what a (provenly) poor shot like Oswald was supposed to have done? The only one who managed three hits with this bolt-action rifle was shooting at a stationary target. Also, significant work had to be undertaken prior to these tests to render the rifle fit for shooting. Your 'buts' are pure speculation.
3.The Carcano was known as 'the peacemaker' because it was so unreliable. There is no evidence that Oswald ordered or received this rifle. Nitrate tests taken show that he had not fired a rifle that day. The only print that belonged to Oswald was a palm print and that was only found after his death. The original rifle found was a Mauser.
4. Agree that it is not a particularly 'weird' angle, but why wait till the limo turned the corner? JFK was facing directly in front of the Depository prior to that and was a sitting duck. The prime spot is behind the grassy knoll. I know this as a fact as I have visited the site on a couple of occasions, having worked in Dallas for a short time.
5. Your statement that ''it seems unlikely that Jack Ruby had any Mafia connections' completely undermines your contention to have 'read a lot on the JFK assassination.' The evidence on this is completely overwhelming and only a fool or a knave would dissimulate otherwise.
For those genuinely interested in the JFK, MLK and Bobby Kennedy assassinations, I would recommend the CTKA website which has a number of excellent articles, but also lists some of the better books on these topics.
For my part, I recommend CTKA's book 'The Assassinations'; also the book by Anthony Summers and the book 'JFK and the Unspeakable.'
So which one
of them was wearing a syrup then? JFK? Oswald? The policeman on the grassy knoll?
You presume wrongly
By reading a lot I mean not only Posner and Bugliosi, but also many pro-Conspiracy books, several websites, and the reports of the Warren Commission and House Select Committee on Assassinations. I actually began by reading Anthony Summers 'Conspiracy' which I found initially convincing.
However, after studying all the evidence carefully, I concluded there was no conspiracy.
Posner and Bugliosi's books have certainly been vehemently attacked by the Conspiracy buffs but I don't agree that they have been shredded. Have you actually read them or are you passing on second hand opinions?
I love these conspiracies
At the same time as an elite group hatched this expert plot to kill the president -- a conspiracy that would remain secret 60 years on -- they also managed to make the kind of schoolboy errors that people on music messageboards couldn't fail to notice.
In this time there have been no mavericks who have spilled the beans, no deathbed confessions, no anonymous tipping off of journalists and no anonymous websites naming names.
Most ex-politicians immediately hit the lecture circuit and write books spilling the beans on all and sundry, but for some reason, they've decided to keep mum on this subject. Maybe it's the microwave transmitters that control their brains?
Absolutely, Brookster. Absolutely.
Most conspiracy theories, if not all, can be debunked by simple applied logic.
David Aaronovich's Voodo Histories argues this most persuasively.
I still don't trust them Fremasons, though. Turn into lizards, they do. My mate knows a bloke from down the pub. He was doing the roof at the local lodge and he seen it all. All lizards they were, moment the doors were shut. This bloke, right, this bloke, he done breathed FIRE. Out of his bum. My mate's mate saw it. Tried to cut his tongue out, they did. He only got away 'cos he told them he was a Sientolo.. Scinto.. Syento.. Psientolo.. Mormon. Yeah. One of them.
How can I put this,
without being overly offensive? I, frankly, do not believe for one moment that you have read the 26 volumes of the Warren Commission whitewash. The HSCA found 'probable' evidence of a conspiracy.
I have read Posner and Bugliosi and found their works meretricious. If you check, you will find many articles debunking their assertions and misinformation in detail, conducted in a dispassionate manner.
You faied to respond to any of the questions I raised, which represent only the tip of the iceberg as regards doubts surrounding Oswald's involvement in the assassination.
Your claim about Ruby absolutely beggars belief and flies in the face of a mountain of evidence, so that makes me extremely sceptical about the knowledge you claim to possess.
There have been deathbed confessions (E. Howard Hunt for example) and there are a number of likely participants in the plot who have been identified over the past decades.
Also, as regards others who scoff at 'conspiracy buffs'; try doing some research and you may discover why a massive percentage of the US population believe there was a conspiracy. We are not all swivel-eyed loons who also believe in faked Moon landings and Royal involvement in drug-running. There are any number of respected professionals who have carefully investigated the evidence and believe a conspiracy existed.
"a massive percentage of" people
believe in Santa Claus and [insert a religious system here]. There have been "deathbed confessions" that Area 51 contains aliens:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-465276/Roswell-officers-amazing-...
still not convinced there was a conspiracy.
Isn't it amazing that we started off...
...talking about toupees and very swiftly found ourselves in a heated debate about conspiracies? fantastic... (in every sense) If this were a game of Conspiracy Cluedo I'd say "It was David Icke, in the Great Pyramid with the Holy Grail"...
'Still not convinced' ?
On the basis of what evidence? That Santa doesn't exist?
I will respond
to your points when I have time to deal with this mixture of misunderstandings, misinterpretations and misrepresentations. Your repetition of some long debunked factoids convinces me that you have not read either Posner or Bugliosi or if you have you have not understood them. For the record I have read the Warren Commission Report but not the accompanying 26 volumes, which were published 2 months later, although I have read many of the witness depositions which appear on the web.
As for the 'mountain of evidence' on Ruby,anyone with experience of analysing evidence, would conclude that it is mostly unsupported suppositions rather than proving that Ruby was a member of the mob.
'Long debunked factoids'
Name them and please don't quote Posner when doing so.
'Unsupported supposisitions' as regards Ruby's Mob affiliation?- pure, undiluted crap. The evidence, dating from his youth in Chicago up to his position as the Mafia's point man in Dalls (note the word) is mountainous.
You have not mentioned the HSCA report which you also claim to have read.
Have you read the follow-up interviews with witnesses 'quoted' in the Warren Commission Report who claimed they had been misquoted?
As regards 'misrepresentations', your original post is littered with them and I responded in (brief) to those.
Please let me know the other books you have read that have convinced you there was no conspiracy.
Even LBJ himself believed a conspiracy existed.
This thread puts me in mind of..
Anyone fancy a pint?
Perhaps JFK should be another thread
All of its own. But It's being discussed here and I for one find it interesting. Even more than toupees.
I have only a superficial knowledge of the issues, have done some web and book research, and tend towards the belief that LHO didn't act alone. But one thing has always bugged me.
I quote ianess:
"How did Oswald get to the lunchroom in just over a minute and be found drinking a coke and not out of breath. As two others were on the stairs at the time, how did Oswald get by them on these narrow stairs to the lunchroom from the 6th floor without them seeing him."
It seems to me generally accepted that LHO had a profound interest in politics, in general, and JFk in particular. He'd read several books on the man, if I remember correctly. I find it difficult to believe that he would sit eating his lunch while JFK was passing his office. Of course there are are many POSSIBLE explainations, but I just can't buy it.
Any thoughts, ianess?
Can you PM me
for further 'loony tunes' discussion? I appear to have upset the syrup fetishists and lone-assassin buffs.
Seriously, email me and I will respond.
Proud to be a syrup fetishist!
Seriously too - this is one of the wonderful things about this blog - just to pursue one of my own fetishes, is there any mention about currency reform in those books? The president who were assassinated often had a track record in that area.
Sorry if my political leanings tread on anyone's forensic toes, its a genuine question
Can you PM me
and I can respond? Thanks.
Sent you pm
but got no reply. Though to be honest I don't see why you can't answer any questions here.
Here you go
http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/thefederalreserve.htm
Garfield and Lincoln both proposed or enacted currency reform (move to the 'Greenback' dollar i.e. issued against metallic assets not against debts and the promise of future interest payments - for the avoidance of doubt we have FIAT i.e. debt-based currency too)
Banks make money issuing debt. If they control national currencies then they make even more money, not least by encouraging policies which put countries further into debt e.g. war, tax cuts or improvident spending - where that spending goes to a small number of corporations or individuals who hoard the cash.
The Federal Reserve is a private bank not an arm of the US government. There are some amazing conspiracy theories kicking around about the BoE
I was hoping
the Men in Black would mysteriously put an end to this discussion. Or you'd maybe move it to davidicke.com.
Not convinced about the assasination theories
But I thought you'd be enraptured by my astringent views on bi-metallic currency and fractional reserve banking.
Ah me, encore une autre reve disparu
:-)
Reply sent
Sorry about delay.
My aversion to further posting is a direct reaction to the inane, thigh-slappingly hilarious comments about Icke, Men in Black, Princess Di etc that appear to be the staple response of those who, undoubtedly, can have done little research on JFK's assassination, in particular.
Other (no doubt, feeble-minded, nutjob fantasists) who believed that there was a conspiracy to assassinate JFK included - LBJ, Nixon, Hoover, Connally, Tolson (Assoc. Dir. FBI), DeLoach (Asst. Dir. FBI), Sullivan (Domestic Chief FBI), McCone (CIA Dir.), Burkley (White House physician), Rowley (Chief of Secret Sevice), Curry (Chief of Police, Dallas) and, finally, the Kennedy family themselves.
I think I saw the same Diddy Hamilton clip...
...("The Untold Tommy Cooper", I assume) and, no, that OP pic doesn't do the bizarreness justice; it does indeed look SO separate from the rest of his hair and head, it is as conspicuous as a bald patch, or more so. The even weirder thing is, they showed a clip of him and Cooper back in the Seventies, and his hair then was so strange it looked more like a wig than a wig. I'm assuming it WASN'T a wig back in those days.
That's the one
Hamilton previously sported the mother of all combovers.
A former work colleague
was said to have the best combover ever, taken from the back of his head. It was said that when he got up in the morning he combed the hair up from his arse before donning underpants to hold it in place.
so how many
syrup wearers in The Stones do you reckon? I reckon probably 2, maybe 3. On a similar vein, does that mean that Sir Thumbs Aloft and Mr R Starr are dodgy characters, Lando?
They were Beatles, BigJimBob
And therefore not subject to the same rules as we mortals. Nevertheless, there comes a point where the contrast of wrinkled visage and grey-less hair looks ridiculous. And that is a point that Macca, in particular, has reached.
Macca
Single handedly keeping the Cherry Blossom Shoe Polish Co. in business for 15 years......
Chuck Norris fact: Chuck Norris can't go bald...
... his hair is too scared to leave.
Oh really?
Blimey
I hadn't seen a picture of him recently.
That would look no less convincing if it were secured with a chinstrap.
His pubes
Have radioactively mutated due to his sheer uncontrollable manliness
OK. Here we go. My full collection.
These are all, obviously, off the telly.
And finally, this cracker that I snapped in the queue for the Table Mountain cable-car.
Out of order, Lenny!
Posting these pictures is mean-spirited and frankly inexcusable. And the fact that they made me laugh more than a two-hour retrospective on alternative comedy says a great deal about (a) the dating of alternative comedy and (b) me.
More please, sir.
Best wishes
Chilly (spamhead and proud)
*Wipes tears from eyes*
Alright, Len - you've finally convinced me.
I'll never doubt your expert judgement in these matters again.
They probably wish there were more like me
I have an absolute blind spot when it comes to wigs...apart from the Phil Spector shots, I could look at any of those pics in this thread and not be aware that they were covering up.
But I agree, given that baldness has nowhere near the stigma that it used to, one wonders why they bother (given my own expanding spot up the back, I may revise this opinion as the years proceed).
Toupee or not toupee
A friend of mine, a teacher, was once visited by an inspector, with an obvious, badly made toupee with a greenish tinge. The inspector took his place at the back of the class, and the lesson started. The pupils were on their best behaviour and all seemed to be going well. Just then the door opened and the worst pupil in the class came in, predictably late. He looked round the room and loudly addressed the class. “Right lads, spot the guy with the wig.” There was a stunned silence. My friend said he wished the ground could have swallowed him up.
Combover.
My dad used to have a combover up until about 1986,me and the future mrs mart1963 went round to my parents house one night after work,we were chatting away about things when the mrs says to my dad "Barrie you've got some broken glass in your hair",so my dad proceeds to tell us about the windscreen breaking on his lorry that day,so the mrs says "hang on I'll get the glass out for you".Now I'm going to stop the story there for a second to tell you something my mrs didn't know was that my dad used about a can of Cossack hairspray a day on the aforementioned combover,back to the story.My mrs goes across to my dad and grabs the piece of glass in his hair,but it is stuck fast and so as she pulls it my dads combover starts lifting up,my mrs panics and says to my dad you'll have to get it yourself Barrie it seems to be stuck,at this point my brother,sister,mother and myself are in stitches at this.The next time we saw my dad about a week later my mother had made him had the combover cut off and it looked a damn sight better,took years off him.
My favourite toupee story
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/someones-hamster-has-gone-missing#...
now with added photo
The last word on the matter
Some people were born to wear wigs.
ianess
Not taking sides in the JFK conspiracy theories, but bullets can do funny things.
I once knew an army guy who got shot in NI. The bullet hit him just below his neck, travelled downwards outside his skin but beneath his uniform, between the clefts of his buttocks (***eyes water here***), down the outside of his right thigh and entered his right calf, shattering his tibia and coming to rest, as it were, just above his ankle, with the point of the bullet protruding out of his skin..... saw the original fotos, seen the scars.... he did have a bit of a limp it must be said.... he also told me about a mate of his who got hit fair and square in the forehead with an armalite bullet which bounced of his head and ended up inside his helmet.
So it is possible that the "magic bullet" did ricochet (spelling? sorry) from JFK to Governor Connally and back again. There is no definate outcome when a bullet hits a body, it's your luck!
Bullets can do funny things, but
they never change direction in mid-air. The 'single bullet theory' was manufactured by Arlen Specter at the very last moment, purely and simply because the Commission had become aware of the injury to James Tague which meant that this 'magic bullet' had to do all the work. Unfortunately for the theory, Connally himself was never convinced as he was certain he was hit by a different shot. In the Zapruder film, Connally can be seen to be holding his hat at the time his wrist was supposed to be shattered. The moment that a bullet does strike him can also be seen clearly on the film as his cheeks puff out from the impact. The 'magic bullet' is remarkably pristine for a bullet that had, supposedly, done so much damage to thick bone. It appears to have lost only a few grains, which is also difficult to understand as fragments of the bullet that hit Connally still remained in his body. The provenance of the bullet and its chain of custody are also problematic as there is no evidence that it had actually been found on Connally's stretcher. Finally, the bullet wound to JFK was located in his back, not in his neck. That wound was probed by a finger and found to have little depth. The location of the wound was shifted upwards at the behest of Gerald Ford so that the 'single bullet theory' could be foisted on the public. I'm sure there's much more that could be added, but can I again recommend the CTKA website which has many illuminating articles.
Er...
how about you guys exchange e-mail addresses or use the PM feature and carry on this fascinating Alan-Partridge style discussion elsewhere? When you get bored of that maybe you can move onto the Moon landings and 9/11. We're supposed to be talking about syrups here alright?
Good point doc
I agree with you. I was thinking everyone else must be fed up with this exchange so I am willing to either carry on the debate through e-mail (if Ianess wishes) or use the PM feature (except that I have no idea what it is!). It was never my intention to initiate any kind of exchange on this issue so apologies for this misuse of the thread!
PM - private message
If you click on someone's username, there's a "contact" tab (if they've made it available) via which you can e-mail another reader.
Thanks Fraser
.
Email me
for further 'loony tunes' discussion. We appear to have upset the syrup fetishists and lone-assassin 'buffs'.
Seriously, email me and I will respond.
Apologies
for offending your delicate sensibilities.
I take the point about a separate thread, but it is not uncommon to find deviations from an OP, plus I was responding to a direct query.
The only Partridgesque grace notes I can detect are the bitingly original cracks about Moon landings, Princess Di etc. You no doubt chortled while sewing on your blazer badge.
Just because, having studied the evidence carefully over the past decades, I (and many others,including the HSCA), am not convinced about the lone-assassin theory, does not automatically render me some type of frothing nutjob.
I would respectfully suggest that those who, unquestioningly, follow the original, official government line about this assassination are living in a Pollyanna world.
Not offended in the slightest
And I never accused anyone of being a nut job, frothing or otherwise. I just find conspiracy theory threads on the internet utterly tedious so I was somewhat irked that this otherwise fun thread about wigs had been hijacked for that purpose. Just my opinion. Solution....I'll stop following this thread.
This exchange
does remind me of the marvellous Was the Death Star Attack an Inside Job?
The Death Star conspiracies...
When I first read that (at work) I had to be attended to by a concerned co-worker as I was crying (with laughter), trying to stop laughing and holding my stomach at the same time. I think the poor girl thought a stomach ulcer had split.
I think the ianess and wezz exchanges are priceless. They're like a lost chapter from Alan Partridge's autobiography...insanely brilliant, completely random and hugely passionate. Only on The Word blog could a pic of Diddy David wearing a ferret on his head turn into a heated debate about the Illuminati. Top drawer.
Stop. Getting. Bond. Wrong.
Don't spoil the fun
I'm waiting until they move onto the Princess Diana cover-up!
Okay, so I was wrong...
...it wasn't David Icke in the Great Pyramid with the Holy Grail...
But I think I have it now: was it a Giant Lizard in the Lost City Of Atlantis with the Charter of the Knights Templar?
Shatner
I've always thought Shatners was the benchmark.. No thought at all given to the hair he had originaly.. He just marched right into the shop and demanded the "Burt Reynolds" model circa 75.
The Shat
Thing with the Shatner — although it was obvious he was wearing a syrup in the era of TJ Hooker, I didn't realise at the time that he was also sporting one in the original Star Trek. You'd imagine rug quality would have advanced, not regressed.
It seems to have been contagious on the USS Enterprise.
At the darts. Tweeted by Andymack of this parish.
It's a good 'un.
This could be classed as heresy..
But, and it may just be me, our beloved Dame Dave has a fine head of hair for one approaching his 65th birthday.
Hepworth is 64?
The Kennedy Assassination
Here's what happened.
Lee Harvey Oswald, a delusional, Marxist, balding ex-Marine was obsessed with President Kennedy. The reason? JFK was vainglorious and secretly wore a syrup. The wig industry at the time was in the thrall of the mob, who were blackmailing him over his shiny dome head.
Oswald, a noted sharpshooter, han an audacious plan to knock off the president's toupee with a well-aimed rifle shot. The sight of JFK's rug flying across the Dallas streets would cause him to lose his popularity and expose him as the slaphead he really was.
Unfortunately Oswald's aim was a few centimetres too low and he blew his brains out instead.
ianess (again)
Sorry peeps, but must post this reply to ianess, who said "...bullets never change direction in mid air".
But they do, and usually will, IF the barrel has a kink, and that will happen with old guns, or if the rifling is well worn, again old guns, or if there is dirt or whatever inside barrel, or if the bullets are old ones with dents, scratches etc, or homemade, or if there is a particularly stiff breeze.... combine any of two of the above then that sucker will come out of the barrell and could go anywhere.
Again, sorry.
As you were.
Last post
on this topic!
I did not make it clear, but I meant that bullets do not take a zig-zag course in mid-air after exiting the victim's body.
Email me for further discussion if you wish.
That conspiracy in full
Minutes of secret meeting of military-industrial complex / CIA / FBI / Castro sympathizers / Mafia / LBJ supporters / Teamsters / Klu Klux Klan / Freemasons / Dallas Ukulele Club (delete as appropriate)
"We're going to assassinate President Kennedy and pin the blame on this Lee Harvey Oswald. He's a crazy Marxist ex-Marine and he'll be seen as a lone gunman."
"Sounds like he's a pretty good shot."
"No, he can't shoot for toffee."
"Well, I guess we could use a semi-automatic weapon. Not like anyone could miss with one of those."
"No. The authorities will discover a defective old Italian rifle."
"Are you sure this will work?"
"Of course. We'll put him in the Book Depository building; it's pretty much impossible to shoot anyone from there, but I doubt anyone will notice."
"Sounds like a terrific plan. Foolproof. What could possibly go wrong?"
There IS a link between bad syrups and the JFK conspiracy
Elton, Gibb and Harley all look like they have clumps from the grassy knoll on their head
apologies
I suppose I should fess up and apologise for inspiring the JFK related exchanges in this wonderful and hilarious thread about syrups. I had merely intended to flag up the Joe Pesci (David Ferrie) syrup in the JFK movie.
That said, our friends' passionate and, dare one say, rather obsessive interventions on the assassination itself are most instructive and have prompted me to order some of the aforementioned books on this subject from Amazon. When I've read them I may jump into the debate on a thread exclusively devoted to the subject and from a much better informed perspective.
Give me a few weeks to read the books first.
Good idea rocker
Read both pro and anti conspiracy books and then make your own mind up. I fear I can be rather obsessive about the assassination as it's the kind of subject which can inspire this sort of approach. I don't discuss the minutiae of the assassination with friends as their eyes begin to glaze over - a sure sign that you've said far too much. BTW Bugliosi is the best of the anti-conspiracy books and Anthony Summers, as recommended by Ianess, the best, or least extreme, of the pro-conspiracy ones.
Yes!
Am very much looking forward to the thread. Love toupees. Love JFK discussions even more. May I recommend American Tabloid? Brilliant book - no relation to the facts, but a fantastic read and a wonderful insight into one great writer's mind as to what could have perhaps happened. (Perhaps this recommendation should be on the "cult books" thread.)
Back to the OP
There is a photo of the Monkees where 2 of the remaining 3 (Mr Nesmith having far too much money to care) are wearing toupees. However it's a bit obvious which one spent more money and effort on theirs. I'm a bit of a helpless soul when it comes to posting photos but here goes:
Peter Tork has a wig that *hovers*
And I still can't post photos...EDIT well you learn something new every day...
Hmmm...
I think Tork's barnet is real - just that he forgot to use the Grecian 2000 on his sideys and beard too. ( If you were going to wear a piece, you'd choose a better one than that, right? ) I'd also wager Davy Jones' impressive locks are all his own too. I've been a Monkees fan since a kid and never remember seeing Jones over the years looking like his hair was ever on the way out or in combover territory, unlike say, Robin Gibb
At first glance
I thought it was the cast of The Last Of The Summer Wine - the US version
Don't know about the jockey
...but Peter Tork has been pretty seriously ill, so I'd cut him some slack.
As far as the syrup principle goes, they're laughable, but so are stupid hats (see Circus Boy above). Watching the Roy Orbison doc on BBC Four the other night, I noted both Elvis Costello and Nobo wearing stupid hats. Come on now! My fanship for David Gilmour is limited, but I admire him for having noted his follicle trend, applied a buzz-cut, and got on with his life. Much the best approach (and one I know I shall have to adopt some time soon...).
Met Peter Tork
a few years ago and he's definitely got his original, albeit thinning, barnet. Great wee show at The Borderline.
Me too, great gig
Ricardo, your contributions to this thread (one we often revisit, but always good value) have had me in fits (maybe it's past my bedtime) :-). As to the Prefab Four, I think neither Tork nor Jones have wigs....
And yep, Tom Jones looks much better grey. Couldn't imagine him bald though.
The robotic hairdo
of Sir Gareth the Numanoid:
I can't see the cat's tail....
It is a cat, right?
In fairness, Numan has always been exceptionally open in regards to his weave and not at all touchy unlike other pop artistes called Reg.
Is that a weave
or a syrup though?
Whatever it is, it just doesn't look biological.
OK
Even a clueless nuffie like me can see that there's something not quite right there
Mick Hucknall.
Mick Hucknell
I haven't laughed so much in ages! Love it! After all the JFK stuff this just made my day. Still laughing now just thinking about it.
Could it be..
That the possible next President of the US of A is less than trustworthy in the barnet department?
Not sure
Let's face it, the last bald president of the USA was probably Eisenhower; the most recent bald UK prime minister was Winston Churchill. There seems to be a public bias against bald candidates. (I'm not counting receding hairlines.)
What with HDTV and omnipresent photography, I'm not sure that any president or prime minister could get away with a syrup these days.
Everyone forgets...
...Sir Alec Douglas Home, or Baillie Vass if you prefer. A fine dome.
Ah
You're right.
I am
...although it subsequently occurred to me that ADH was never seriously elected - dropped from the HoL into a safe seat after he dropped his hereditary peerage, became leader of the Conservatives (without a vote) because Macmillan didn't want Butler, finally faced some kind of electorate in the General Election of 1964, and lost to Wilson - though not decisively.
It doesn't surprise me
given his bizarre comments on the NHS (yes, *our* NHS):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/9671217.stm
Thereby adding weight to my maxim that a man who dyes his hair is not to be trusted.
Keep your hair on!
Pat Boone loses it
Unnatural ?
Ah, the eternal question
And while I'm here, isn't Carl Palmer of the Brain Salad Surgery Hitmakers rather an object of suspicion nos jours?
Some other great wearers
Frankie Howard
Terry Wogan
Charles Hawtry
The Duke
John Wayne at Harvard (skip to about 1:28)
You're seeing without his rug...oh hold on.