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TOTP 1976: like being slowly suffocated in blancmange...

Colin H's picture

How are we all managing with the re-runs of TOTP 1976? My view remains that it's a valid exercise and an invaluable piece of primaery history access for the masses - at last we can all see, week after week, how truly turgid and dreary popular music was in the middle 70s.

In the most recent episode I was staggered when DLT back announced 'I Love To Boogie' by T Rex as an exciting way to open the show: whatever excitement Bolan had once had was long gone by then. A boring, dreary song with what sounded like a live vocal (and not a good one).

And Gallagher & Lyle - dear God, it was turgid and beyond dreadful; and DLT looning about with Mud...; Frampton's wah-wah thing; and one of Ruby's Kipper gyrating like an exercise video instructor to Dion's 'Wanderer' (or was that the previous week? it all blurs into one)...

As I say: fascinating, priceless but painful and mind-boggling at the same time.

When something like Bryan Ferry's 'Let's Stick Together' comes along it feels like night and day - in terms of pizzaz, production values, etc (not just greater familiarity) - compared to the rest. Generally speaking, the best work really has survived and the dross (Surprise Sisters? beyond belief, truly astonishing in their mediocrity) has disappeared almost beyond memory... until now!

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Grabs popcorn

Sits back.

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Spartacus Mills | 4 July 2011 - 1:25pm

I don't know if any of you would know...

...but I'd be interested to find out if any of the (previously little-played) tracks featured in these repeats have enjoyed a sales resurgence.

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Paolo Meccano | 4 July 2011 - 1:32pm

Certainly nothing's turned up in the charts as yet...

... but as the viewing figures are less than 250,000, you'd need a fair percentage of them to rise up as one and download (say) "The Boys Are Back In Town" in order to make any kind of noticable dent.

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Metal Mickey | 4 July 2011 - 4:55pm

I've

certainly been giving s s s single bed a bashing on Spotify.

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Jim M | 6 July 2011 - 10:32am

You can't find

my 2 favourites

Reggae like it used to be - Paul Nicholas
Requiem - Slik

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tim tunes | 8 July 2011 - 1:39pm

Loving it

as long as my fast forward button works.

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Jorrox | 4 July 2011 - 1:34pm

Fast forward

... is cheating. You have to sit through the rubbish and hope for something decent, just like proper telly. You can turn it off when it gets to the Wurzels at no1, mind.

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Lying Doggo | 6 July 2011 - 12:47pm

Stamina

If only. I just can't sit through some of this despite being a pop kid at heart. I can handle one play usually, it's the second or third appearance that kills me.

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Jorrox | 7 July 2011 - 1:53pm

Too many TOTP threads!

http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/totp-1976

Some sort of thread-meld is called for.

Oh, and there was this one too!

http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/totp-1976-punk

Given we're going to be talking this through until long after retirement (assuming Chris Patten doesn't axe BBC Four), this thread could run and run and run.

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Anglepoised | 4 July 2011 - 1:49pm

There's more

Here: http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/bloody-dlt-again

And here: http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/who-thought-was-a-good-idea

At least the BBC know that the re-runs are popular with a certain demographic.

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Red Umpire | 4 July 2011 - 5:00pm
niscum | 13 October 2011 - 9:32pm

I'm loving every minute of it

good or bad. It's a time piece. I had email correspondence with Noel Edmonds last week re: the Suprise Sisters too. I'm totally immersed in it.

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Five-Centres | 4 July 2011 - 1:52pm

"I had email correspondence with Noel Edmonds last week..."

...now come on Fivemeister, you can't just leave that hanging! What did he have to say...?

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Colin H | 4 July 2011 - 2:29pm

I asked him

what he was thinking by having the Surprise Sisters as his record of the week. And his reply was as follows:

"Er, kindly remember there was such a thing as the “playlist panel” and I had little influence over what they selected for the RotW!!!"

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Five-Centres | 4 July 2011 - 3:06pm

Haha. No doubt he would have chosen

something worse if that's possible! I actually had a nightmare about Noel after watching it, but sadly it was more DOND related.

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Mr Fade | 4 July 2011 - 9:55pm

Noel Edmunds

This may be urban legend, but I recall reading that he didn't have a single record in his house/mansion.
Would not surprise me one little bit. Other DJs that I reckon would not have much music in their gaffs - DLT, Simon Bates.
Now, cheesy Tony Blackburn - I totally respect his knowledge and obvious love for soul music.
The '76 TOTPs are almost unremittingly dreadful.
IMO, the Beeb execs who authorised the deleting of '60s TOTPs to save on tape should have been slowly garrotted with piano wire.

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ianess | 30 October 2011 - 8:39pm

60s TOTPs were as bad as the 1976 ones were seeing now

RSG was MUCH better. It was The Tube to TOTPs err... TOTP

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stimpy | 30 October 2011 - 9:27pm

RSG

Can't say I agree at all, particularly as I believe '64 to '68 (approx) was the golden age of the pop single. Beatles, Stones, Kinks, Who, Small Faces, Hendrix, Beach Boys, Motown. Of course, there was, and always has been, dreck around. '76 appears now, and did at the time, as a nadir. Loved RSG and am delighted that these performances (and Beat Club) survive.
The BBC perpetrated a gross act of cultural vandalism destroying the TOTP tapes.

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ianess | 30 October 2011 - 11:52pm

The Surprise Sisters...

I was so taken aback by how awful they were I felt the need to research them. Apparently they were protegees of Tony Visconti.

On the whole I think trawling through these programmes is like looking through the bestseller lists of any given week. If you were to look at say 1976 you'd learn that Wilbur Smith or Arthur Haley were at No. 1 but it would tell you next to nothing about the literary scene of the time.

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Kit Hogue | 4 July 2011 - 1:52pm

Scary...

...taking the time to come up with...

http://www.angelfire.com/biz3/surprisesisters/

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tim tunes | 8 July 2011 - 1:43pm

My two cents.

I'm watching them all too. 1976 was the year before I was born.

What gets me is the complete lack of atmosphere in the studio, it looks like it's music night at the morgue.

Also, my heart sinks when you see bands you've never heard of who look and carry themselves like they may well be really good. When they start playing however, it turns out they're just Brotherhood of Man with better gear. Slik, Flintlock, I'm looking at you.

Finally, those novelty records like The Wurzels and JJ Barrie? At number one? Wow. What a world it must have been in those days.

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Art Vandelay | 4 July 2011 - 3:03pm

I'm loving the TOTP 1976 repeats.....

.....some great stuff on there (SAHB, Thin Lizzy,) amongst the dreadful tracks.

It's been said on the many TOTP 76 threads here on Word.........it does get better. Things improve as this year moves on and 1977 is the year where they really should've started. Punk/New Wave entering the top 10 which spices things up a tad and gives the show a bit more edge. You'll still have the novelty hits but more interesting.

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Almost Simon | 4 July 2011 - 3:08pm

You're right, Art...

...the heart sinks when they start playing/miming and you realise, of the material, THERE'S NOTHING THERE. The flimsiness of the songs is truly staggering - hardly any would pass muster in any kind of songwriting workshop/handbook today (not that I set much store by such things, but at least they'd talk about having hooks, developing/maintaining interest, etc) and the production is uniformly flat as a pancake. It's all so much quasi-musical somnambulism - tepid, bland, moribund, dreary as hell. Whatever the Gallagher & Lyle thing was it was like a boring demo of a nothing song. I didn't especially care for Murray Head's number but it stood out as having a bit of flair and character at least.

I'd never heard the Liverpool Express thing (or indeed anything by LE) but while it seemed to have some semblance of aural atmosphere about it, somehow the tune and musical interest/gear change never came around. It was like Barclay James Harvest without a strong melody (yes, I know - we're teetering on the brink of a tautology there!). What on earth was wrong with people's ears and minds in 1976?!?

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Colin H | 4 July 2011 - 3:46pm

Liverpool Express?

One of Macca's all time fave songs - so I read. And one of mine too. I'm quite fond of the Gallaher and Lyle tune. Think my head must be stuck in this mid70's Guilty Pleasures type world at the mo.

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Almost Simon | 4 July 2011 - 4:06pm

Yup, I like both

of those songs, too, and would happily go and see G&L, were they to do any more reunion gigs.

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iainiain | 4 July 2011 - 5:36pm

Bear in mind

that TOTP still had the Musician's Union on it's case in a big way. If I'm not mistaken, acts were supposed to either be backed by the BBC Orchestra (who were guaranteed to strip any trace of funk or groove from anything thrown at them), or had to sing live over a backing track..but this backing track couldn't be just taken from the original multi-track recording, they were supposed to re-record a new track 'live' in the studio and bring it with them, presumbly often done in some haste at short notice. This may account for some of the rather tame performances.

This came up on a Word podcast and I believe the trick was to go in and re-record the backing track, and then switch the tapes with the original recordig when the MU guy wasn't looking.

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Dr Volume | 4 July 2011 - 4:28pm

Hey!

Slik just happened to feature future "Vienna" hitmaker Midge Ure. And Flintlock featured someone who had a famous brother. I think. Was the famous brother out of "The Tomorrow People"? Maybe. Or maybe it was Keith Chegwin's brother. Either way... phew! Rock 'n' roll, eh?

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Billybob Dylan | 6 July 2011 - 10:43pm

No, no..

He was the brother of the bloke who played the waiter in Don't Drink The Water. I think. Or he might have been that bloke in Boquet Of Barbed Wire. Him who was going out with the one with the gammy leg from Z-Cars.

I might be wrong, though.

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Lenny Law | 7 July 2011 - 12:01am

Flintlock's drummer

was Michael Holoway, who played Mike in 'The Tomorrow People'. After a subsequent guest role in an episode of 'Minder', his career as a TV actor stalled. Most of his roles since then have been in pantomime and touring versions of musicals.

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goldheartbadge | 7 July 2011 - 9:57am

He also was in "You Must Be Joking"

A rather amusing (for the time) kids TV programme on ITV that also featured the very young Linda Robson and Pauline Quirke. A teamtime favo of mine.

Flintlock were the house band, and also did the theme tune as a single. Given - what they call these days "cross media fertilisation" - it's actually surprising Flintlock didny really make more of a dent.

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BernkastelCues | 7 July 2011 - 1:41pm

The "just wait one more year for punk to happen"

hypothesis put to the test:

tx: 77/07/07

(49) THE RAH BAND – The Crunch
(6) OLIVIA NEWTON-JOHN – Sam ®
(NEW) SMOKIE – It’s Your Life
(25) BROTHERHOOD OF MAN – Angelo
(23) BOB MARLEY & THE WAILERS – Exodus ®
(14) ALESSI – Oh Lori (video)
(48) BARRY BIGGS – Three Ring Circus
(5) BONEY M – Ma Baker (danced to by Legs & Co)
(26) ANDY GIBB – I Just Wanna Be Your Everything ®
(1) HOT CHOCOLATE – So You Win Again
(15) DONNA SUMMER – I Feel Love (and credits)

Thanks Bob, Donna, but let's just give it another year before we go back in there:

tx: 77/07/06

(2) FATHER ABRAHAM & THE SMURFS – The Smurf Song (and charts)
(NEW) BUZZCOCKS – Love You More
(5) MARSHALL HAIN – Dancing In The City (video)
(11) SHOWADDYWADDY – A Little Bit Of Soap
(22) A TASTE OF HONEY – Boogie Oogie Oogie (danced to by Legs & Co)
(24) ELECTRIC LIGHT ORCHESTRA – Wild West Hero (video)
(14) SAN JOSÉ & RODRIGUEZ ARGENTINA – Argentine Melody
(25) CLOUT – Substitute (video)
(64) STEEL PULSE – Prodigal Son
(59) CITY BOY – 5-7-0-5
(68) JUSTIN HAYWARD – Forever Autumn
(1) JOHN TRAVOLTA & OLIVIA NEWTON-JOHN – You’re The One That I Want (video)
(29) BOB MARLEY & THE WAILERS – Satisy My Soul (and credits)

hmmmmm.....three?

tx: 79/07/05

(22) CHIC – Good Times (and charts)
(45) MANFRED MANN’S EARTH BAND – Don’t Kill It Carol
(6) AMII STEWART – Light My Fire (video)
(54) THE KORGIS – If I Had You
(9) THE SEX PISTOLS – C’mon Everybody (video)
(12) EDDY GRANT – Living On The Frontline ®
(18) VILLAGE PEOPLE – Go West (video)
(21) THE RUTS – Babylon’s Burning ®
(41) THE KNACK – My Sharona
(27) THE DOOLEYS – Wanted
(30) PATRICK HERNANDEZ – Born To Be Alive ®
(1) TUBEWAY ARMY – Are ‘Friends’ Electric?
(29) DAVE EDMUNDS – Girl’s Talk (and credits)

NOW YOU'RE TALKING!!!

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Pax Romana | 4 July 2011 - 3:29pm

I'll be there for year #2

Marshall Hain were one of the few things my Dad and I ever agreed on ... And I at the time I am sure I'd have been "tuning in" for Clout, hormones aboil ...

Here

they are with a choon they sadly didn't do on TOTP ...

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SpaceBoy | 7 July 2011 - 7:42am

Marshall Hain song is a classic.

Couldny believe they broke up immediately afterwards. What really did they have that was better to do?

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BernkastelCues | 7 July 2011 - 1:43pm

Have a look at sleeve notes

of the newly released CD of 1978 Free Ride LP (on Cherry Red).

Looks to me like she didn't really want to be in front of band and wanted to be a songwriter (at which she has been very successful), his later career included a spell in Flying Lizards.

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SpaceBoy | 7 July 2011 - 5:03pm

Marshall Hain song is a classic x 2

Just watched the clip. It must be 30+ years since I heard it, fabulous song.

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jackthebiscuit | 9 July 2011 - 11:34am

check out Kit Hain's 80s solo album Spirits Walking Out

recently issued on CD and Spotify.

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SpaceBoy | 10 July 2011 - 1:44pm

Have they changed the day again?

It wasn't on last Thursday and I can't find it in this week's RT.

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minibreakfast | 4 July 2011 - 3:34pm

Yes it was

Moral of story: Don't buy RT

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Five-Centres | 4 July 2011 - 3:46pm

Not on this week for some reason....

....probably back next week.

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Almost Simon | 4 July 2011 - 4:11pm

Each episode is being showing as close to the original

transmission date as possible. If there is an episode missing from the vaults, then there will be no TOTP that week.

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Dr Volume | 4 July 2011 - 4:36pm

Why why why???

Who on God's Earth could give a toss if they show them on another date?

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Doug B | 4 July 2011 - 5:14pm

Bear in mind, this is the outfit

Bear in mind, this is the outfit behind the comical and absurd "move to Salford".

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Richard Lowe | 4 July 2011 - 6:09pm

Ooooh! Mrs Sharp's been in the knife-drawer again?

Might there be another, superior, TV listings magazine in the direction of which we might be pointed, Mr C?

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Lenny Law | 4 July 2011 - 5:38pm

I couldn't possibly comment, Len

Far be it for me to tout my wares here.

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Five-Centres | 4 July 2011 - 5:44pm

Well...

I thought it was mostly crap at the time and catching the odd repeat, yep, it's still mostly crap. I wish they'd rerun the Whistle Test. My rose tinteds say it was mostly great. I wonder if it was? Looking at lists of who was on I bet it was mostly triffic.

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Twangothan | 4 July 2011 - 4:12pm

I don't think OGWT would be any different...

For every legendary clip (Bill Withers, Randy Newman, Little Feat, The Wailers) there would be hour upon hour of godawful prog noodling or soporific singer songwriter whimsy. These things are definitely best revisited in abridged form.

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Patrick Crowther | 4 July 2011 - 4:17pm

"godawful prog noodling or soporific singer songwriter whimsy"

...er, yes? So what's not like, Crowthmeister?!? :-D

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Colin H | 4 July 2011 - 4:22pm

Don't agree.

For sheer musicianship alone, this is worth watching and hearing.

http://youtu.be/SkZsSydzQjM

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hazzard | 4 July 2011 - 6:21pm

Yes...

As I stated in my comment when I listed Little Feat in my choice of legendary clips.

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Patrick Crowther | 4 July 2011 - 6:33pm

Sorry, Patrick.

Misread. :-(

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hazzard | 4 July 2011 - 6:54pm

No "biggie"...

:-)

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Patrick Crowther | 4 July 2011 - 7:10pm

Don't think Whistle Test has much of an archive...

Think we've all probably seen what's still available in a plethora of other shows.

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BernkastelCues | 7 July 2011 - 1:44pm

I'd like to see the trippy 20s/30s cartoons

they used for illustrating album tracks where there was no supplied footage. They always seemed suffused with an unbearable strangeness and sadness as a young teenager, though that might be true of most things when you're a young teenager I guess. Maybe you had to be the kind of young teenager I was (full disclosure I loved the Smiths)

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FakeGeordie | 7 July 2011 - 2:53pm

I've no doubt it would be 'a bit of both' Twang...

...some dreariness/over-earnest interviews, but also lots of gems. And a lot of the OGWT gems - unlike, it seems, from the TOTP archive (where we've seen all the good stuff in documentaries/clip shows ad nauseum, leaving only the dross which we're all now seeing in its unexpurgated lack of glory for, in some cases, the first time) - WILL be rarities, things unseen for aeons.

I've long hoped to see the 1972 piano/vocal OGWT session by James Griffin, of Bread but its never to my knowledge been repeated, though it still exists. I advised my pal Brian O'Reilly at Hux to license the audio of the two tracks (including his Bread masterpiece 'Just Like Yesterday') as bonus tracks for a forthcoming James Griffin reissue of his 2 long-neglected 70s solo albums, but alas the BBC wanted an unaffordable advance.

Hey ho.

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Colin H | 4 July 2011 - 4:20pm

OGWT

The problem with the OGWT was not the amount of prog noodling - there was rather too little of that, if you ask my 14-year old self. It was more 'Bomber' Harris's god-awful interest in Americana, Jesse Collin Young, Capricorn Records specials, the Atlanta Rhymthm Section, 'the new one from Jackson Browne... nice", "here's an interview with David Crosby", and lazy 'Felix the Cat' clips with album tracks. About 10 years ago some great OGWT DVDs came out, and the earlier ones were jolly good - but it was live in the studio stuff. But what's been released has been quite patchy since - presumably legal issues or the tapes beign wiped for the 1974 TUC conference.

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Vincent | 4 July 2011 - 4:39pm

I loved all that

Americana, proggy wig outs, folky types - loved it all and still do. As Colin says there are loads of sessions which have never been repeated and I'd love to see them. Jackson Browne? David Crosby? Atlanta Rhythm Section? Bring it on!

And now here's one from the new album from Nutz. Mmmmm, nice.

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Twangothan | 4 July 2011 - 5:41pm

I, on the other hand, loved everthing you found dull..

Personal taste I suppose.

But I would point out that much of what does pass for OGWT lazy cliche these days(Bobness, 30's cartoons twinned with the Allman Bros etc) all seemed radically different to the fairly showbiz variety approach of every other music show in the 70's. The 1976 TOTP re-runs being exhibit A for the prosecution. All very light entertainment.

The fixation with West Coat Americana I'd also defend, as that really was were the most popular rock/pop music was being made then - even by British imports like Framption and ELO. Not forgetting that in the pre t'internet days it was pretty hard to find out what was new without Whistle Test.

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BernkastelCues | 7 July 2011 - 1:51pm

TOTP 1976

I watched it when I was 9. It was mostly shit then. I still trust my juvenile opinion so have not felt the need to waste any more of my life with the repeats.

Now if they put Max Headroom back on that would be a different matter....

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Leedsboy | 4 July 2011 - 5:31pm

We are the same age, Leedsboy

Personally I think they should repeat Razzmatazz

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Kit Hogue | 4 July 2011 - 5:35pm

Oh yes

Loved that. Kate Bush doing There Goes A Tenner has always stuck in my mind.

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Five-Centres | 4 July 2011 - 5:40pm

Razza razza razza razzamatazzzz

Yeah, only if they leave the 'Pirrie's Planet Rock' sections in though.

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Dr Volume | 4 July 2011 - 6:01pm

Good God

Alistair Pirrie! There's a name to conjure with.

It led me to find this web site (http://www.radiotees.co.uk/presenters.htm), which was my local ILR station in the 1980's. There are some fairly interesting names on the list of ex-presenters, like Pirrie, Alex Lester and Jeff Stelling.

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illuminatus | 11 July 2011 - 12:29pm

Razzmatazz

Just had an allergic reaction to the memory and then realised I was thinking of Get It Together with the talent vacuum that was Roy North. I recall (with some real horror, still) a version of Splish, Splash with Mr Roy sat in a bath with a loofa on a stick. Which had twice the amount of talent as Mr Roy.

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Leedsboy | 4 July 2011 - 7:43pm

We're the same age, Leedsboy

Personally I think they should repeat Snub

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Lying Doggo | 6 July 2011 - 12:56pm

Ferry

Oh, and back to the OP, Byron Ferrari's weedy "Let's stay together" sounded as feeble then as it does now compared to the mighty Canned Heat's version.

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Twangothan | 4 July 2011 - 6:09pm

Canned Heat rock. Fact.

Canned Heat rock. Fact. Did you know if you play Undertones singles at 33rpm Feargal Sharkey sounds like Brian Ferry. Not sure if it works the other way round because I don't have any Brian ferry records.

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Richard Lowe | 4 July 2011 - 6:25pm

I reckon Ferry could rock

But too often chose not to - in order to examine some stylistic or muscial quirk with one or both of his eyebrows raised.

I think his 'Lets stick together' isn't bad at all actually

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FakeGeordie | 7 July 2011 - 2:58pm

Gallagher & Lyle turgid?

Fighting talk. Presume it was either Breakaway, Heart On My Sleeve or I Want To Stay With You. Love them all. Nice record the G&L "Breakaway" album. And there's nothing wrong with "nice" records, as part of a rich and varied musical diet.

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Richard Lowe | 4 July 2011 - 6:22pm

OGWT prog

Maybe I was simply bemoaning the lack of prog; here's some choice moments:

Can't see for a moment why punk happened...

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Vincent | 4 July 2011 - 7:32pm

Those clips have got me thinking about...

how few of the superstar prog bands ever deigned to appear on OGWT. As far as I know Yes didn't appear, nor did Genesis and Pink Floyd were notable by their absence (I could of course be mistaken). Considering the fact that it was the only programme they could appear on, it seems a little surprising. Maybe they just didn't trust television to show off their cosmic ditties to best effect...

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Patrick Crowther | 4 July 2011 - 7:47pm

Superstar prog

Well, there was the Manticore Special (ELP) which was in the OGWT spot in maybe 1974 - but which my mother wouldn't let me stay up for, and was never repeated. 'Yes at QPR' (see YouTube) was also on TV, as I can recall being told by Dad to "turn that bloody racket down". Genesis, i believe supplied "I know what I like" (a lesser number in their canon) to some damn fool film clip. Pink Floyd had a presence on the fleapit cinema circuit (Crystal Voyager and 'Live at Pompeii'), all the better to sneak a bifter, which, in those days, would not have drawn that much attention given everyone smoked fags anyway.

Other 'Before the fall' (literally) prog memories?

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Vincent | 4 July 2011 - 8:26pm

How green was my greatcoat

I didn't really pick up on prog til 76ish but I know ELP had the Olympic stadium clip for Fanfare, and made their famously ill-advised trip to the studio for Love Beach. I *think* Genesis may have had Follow You on in some way but really can't be sure, I know there was a Genesis on Tour feature on something like Nationwide (linked to on this site iirc).

FM radio was my lifeline---esp treats like the rebroadcast of the BBCs live version of DSOTM, or the Genesis concert recordings they had, or the session version of Twilight alehouse etc etc. RIP Tommy Vance

Not arf ...

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SpaceBoy | 7 July 2011 - 7:49am

Disco 2

Genesis never appeared in the studio on OGWT but they were on its predecessor Disco 2 in late 1970, the only film of the very short lived line-up with Mick Barnard who briefly replaced Ant Phillips. All their Whistle Test apearances were on film - IKWIL from a live mock-up done at Shepperton Studios, the Ripples promo in 76 and the Lyceum live show in 80.

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the purple avenger | 7 July 2011 - 9:49am

I think Yes did, strangely enough....

I have a vague memory of a - probably 1970/71ish TOTP - were they had a short lived album slot. Someone at the BBC had probably recognised that youth music had broadly fractured into singles and album buyers, and attempted to appeal to all.

Anyhoo, i'm fairly sure I saw Yes on TOTP in this slot doing something off the "Yes Album". Perhaps "Starship Trooper" or Yours is no Disgrace"

Reason it stuck in my mind is cos the 10 year old me found it far too long.

I later grew to love it. Anyone verify this happened?

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BernkastelCues | 7 July 2011 - 1:57pm

There's a YouTube

clip of the YINDHM doing that song somewhere---I think it was a promo video.

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SpaceBoy | 7 July 2011 - 6:04pm

That is the first time I've heard Druid...

and I fervently pray that it will be the last.

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Patrick Crowther | 5 July 2011 - 8:44am

Count me in, too, Patrick...

...never heard them before but, boy, was that dreadful. A prog bridge too far for me...

But hats off to Greenslade (tedious, but at least, somehow, more 'professional') for allowing a bit of that clip to be used in Julien Temple's Dr Feelgood documentary, as an example of the noodlesome depths to which music yhad sunk in the mid 70s.

And speaking of Temple - I see he has a Dave Davies documentary on BBC4 this Friday. Splendid!

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Colin H | 11 July 2011 - 12:37pm

According to Wiki

The drummer (Cedric Sharpley) went on to play with Gary Numan.

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clivetemple | 6 July 2011 - 8:31am

The Druid track

lasts for 13:19 (obviously I didn't get to the end) and there was another one from them! I can't remember the running time of OGWT but surely thay must have been the whole programme or near enough,
EDIT
Just checked and it's both tracks on youtube for 13:19

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hubertrawlinson | 29 July 2011 - 11:16pm

Forget TOTP

How about a rerun of the brilliant So It Goes presented by the much missed Tony H Wilson. Magnificant. Thank goodness I was lucky enough to be back in Granadaland in the summer of 1976.

http://youtu.be/C8szRgIcYlY

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cradlerock | 4 July 2011 - 7:58pm

What the hell do people expect?

I love watching it. 1976 is just about a year before I started watching it each week as I was 8 years old. But my main memory of TOTP was that is had loads of trash which made the great songs stand out. I thought that was common knowledge? Are people feeling cheated because they thought it was wall to wall classics? I doubt the next year will be wall to wall punk either. It was never cutting edge. Great viewing though, and as for knocking rare footage of the bopping elf...well maybe DLT was right. I've heard I Love To Boogie loads on the radio the last few years. Wasn't it a big part of Billy Elliot?

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Mr Fade | 4 July 2011 - 10:02pm

1976-1977

I didn't see any TOTP. I went to a local youth group from six 'til eight on Thursdays.

In 1978, I went up to the next group. Which met on Tuesdays. And I could worship once more at the magic box. This was also, coincidentally, when I discovered Radio 1. And Smash Hits.

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Lenny Law | 4 July 2011 - 10:42pm

I love it

a fantastically evocative piece of television that has nothing to do with the quality or not of the music. These are the songs that we were buying whether we want to admit it or not and DLT, Edmonds and co were huge stars of the day, this is our past and we cannot deny it. Framptons wah wah thing was wonderful, did anyone else use it, does anyone have one or know what it's called? Oh by the way Brotherhood of Man? Ignore the sound and look at the clothes and the look, my sister and brother-in-law could have been in BoM and I had a rush of memories looking at their silly dog song that was hugely welcome and unexpected, brilliant idea and I will try and catch them all, my life unfurling in front of my eyes, 1982 is going to be emotional.

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Dave Amitri | 4 July 2011 - 11:17pm

"we" weren't

A slice of people were buying them. I wasn't. Nor were any of my mates. We were buying Tubular Bells and Dark Side of the Moon and Led Zep 4 and irish Tour '74.

BTW it's a voice bag, not a wah wah - it's a little speaker feeding into a tube which you put in your mouth and your mouth shapes the sound,which is then picked up by the microphone. Jeff Beck used one too. This is how he gets it to talk. First heard on "Sparky's magic piano" which my parents had on a set of 78s!

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Twangothan | 4 July 2011 - 11:41pm

OK you weren't

good point well made but that isn't what TOTP was about, it was about popular music, the charts and it defines an era for the masses of which I am unashamedly one. Enjoy it for what it is not what you wish it to be is the point I was trying to make (I owned Tubular Bells too by the way). Voice bag, thank you sounds great to me time for a comeback I reckon.

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Dave Amitri | 4 July 2011 - 11:47pm

Mind you

Of course we all watched it, as there was so little music on the telly we had to for the odd occasion when there'd be Alice Cooper doing "School's out" or Bowie or Bad Co. I remember once they had Tom Petty and the Sex Pistols (I think the first time they'd been on, doing Pretty Vacant).

The last time I can remember herding a voice bag is on "Living on a prayer" by Bon Jovi. Surely there's been an example since then?

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Twangothan | 5 July 2011 - 8:30am

Voice boxes

Bon Jovi used it again on "It's My Life" and Slash used one on Velvet whatsit's cover of Floyd's "Money".

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fortuneight | 7 July 2011 - 8:45am

Addressing a couple of points...

I may have been misunderstood. Mr Fade says "[TOTP] had loads of trash which made the great songs stand out. I thought that was common knowledge? Are people feeling cheated because they thought it was wall to wall classics?"

No, I certainly didn't think it had wall to wall classics, but you must understand that - and I'm sure I'm not alone here - I was 8 in 1976 and hardly ever saw the show at the time. In subsequent years I became heavily interested in, and involved in, the world of music from times past. But to an extent - for all the vintage vinyl abnd CDs one may hear - one's view is influenced by what vintage TV/film material is available (on rebroadcasts, clip shows, DVDs, bootleg videos etc) of an era.

Our collective visual 'memory' of the 60s (the early 70s to an extent, but a lesser one) is undoubtedly skewed by the fact that, for example, there is very little surviving TOTP hence we see endless repeats of Status Quo's 'Pictures Of Matchstick Men', Procul Harum's 'Whiter Shade of Pale', Brian Auger Trinity's 'This Wheels On Fire' and the Rolling Stones 'Lets Spend The Night Together'. I'm sure there's a few others - but not very many. If the entirety of the TOTP 60s archive were still intact, I promise you we'd not have seen the above clips anywhere near as often.

I'm not harrumphing "Hey, why aren't there more classics?" - rather, I'm amazed at how poor the general standard was at the time: a drabness of presentation (when it had clearly been somehow brighter and more engaging to the viewer, in TV production terms, in the early 70s, as seen with oft-repeated clips of Bowie, Roxy, Jethro Tull, Slade, T Rex etc), and also a 'flatness' to the music (which may well be in part down to some MU-rules re-records as mentioned above - but only in part) and, frankly, what appears to be an acceptance of blandness and mediocity among the pop fraternity in that part of the 70s.

Listen to, say, Picketywitch or Middle of The Road or whoever (the pop lightweights of their day) from the very early 70s and compare them to Flintlock, Gallagher & Lyle, the G Band et al of 1976. The comparison is striking: the supposedly banal of 5 years earlier had verve, sprightliness, hooklines, something about them that sparkled; while the 1976 lot are as boring and dreary as hell.

"as for knocking rare footage of the bopping elf" - well, okay, it's rare - it's rarely been repeated (certainly I'd never seen it before. But could that be because he looked and sounded bored and second-rate? You would never in a million years play that clip to anyone who came up to you and said 'hey, I've heard Marc Bolan was exciting and camp and outrageous - a glam-pop pixie who simply ignited the 70s: have you got any visual evidence?'. No. But if someone said, 'hey, I believe Bolan had run out of ideas by 1976 and could hardly be bothered disguising the fact on national TV: got any visual evidence...?' that'd be the clip you'd dig out.

Alas, when Dave suggests "Framptons wah wah thing was wonderful" I can only disagree! It's bloody annoying. Regrettably, as has been said already, Jeff Beck used it briefly (till he wised up) [check out 'She's A Woman' from a 1974 show on youtube for the hideous truth of it].

To conclude: I'm 100% there for the period-piece fascination of it, but can't quite believe JUST how awful the state of pop music and pop music broadcasting was in 1976. That was and is my point. It had slid massively since 1971-2 on both counts, and was nowhere near as exciting and vibrant (certainly vis a vis the musical aspect) as it became, to my certain memory, by 1979.

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Colin H | 5 July 2011 - 12:09am

We've hit a fallow period

in TOTP history for sure. But I can assure you if they keep this up and we live long enough (30 years) to see some of the last TOTP episodes with Reggie Yates and Fearne Cotton introducing Vengaboys, James Blunt, Westlife and Crazy Frog they'll not look much better than DLT introducing JJ Barrie...just slightly less beige and leaden.

I'm with you on the Frampton voice tube thing though, I was willing some accidental short circuit to send 240V through his fillings when that was going on.

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Dr Volume | 5 July 2011 - 1:36am

That's why it's interesting

It's not just about the music: it's a cultural document. The early 70's still had the faint residue of the 60's, albeit filtered through burgeoning paranoia and cynicism. By 1976 we'd gone through three day week, miners' strikes and the Heath/Wilson see-saw. We'd hit the long summer and the troubles with the IMF, not to mention the Grunwick dispute. Society was changing, whether some wanted it or not, but the media was some form of stabilising influence. It was largely conservative (small c), white male and middle aged. As were the upper echelons of the music industry.

Something was about to happen, not just in music, but in wider society. TOTP is the oh-so-obvious-in-hindsight holding pattern before the paradigm shift.

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illuminatus | 11 July 2011 - 12:41pm

that voice-bag wah thing

I don't know if Jeff Beck gave up using this for the same reason, but Frampton complained that the vibration from having one of these in your gob night after night made all his fillings drop-out

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Ricardo | 5 July 2011 - 12:29am

Funnily enough...

..I've just had a filling replaced earlier today. But I can assure you that I've never once had dealings with this puffed-up non-musical windbag.*

(* Unintentional reference to the vibrant Andy Kershaw thread going on elsewhere.)

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Colin H | 5 July 2011 - 12:35am

Time.......

.....for Dave Clark to dust off those 'Ready, Steady, Go!' episodes.

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ranger | 5 July 2011 - 8:39am

...and then everyone

can moan about them ;)

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Mr Fade | 5 July 2011 - 10:58am

goodness knows we've spent enough time moaning...

...about why-oh-why he doesn't allow them out of his lock-up! :-D

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Colin H | 5 July 2011 - 11:06am

Gallagher and Lyle

I have seen Benny and Graham TWICE in concert in the last 9 months; they appeared at the Barrfields Theatre in Largs last October, and at Glasgow Barrowlands a few weeks ago. Both these concerts were in support of local charities, but it is rumoured that they may undertake a reunion tour of Scottish venues. I'm one of the duo's most devoted followers, and have even been photographed with them.

How can anyone describe 'Heart On My Sleeve' as turgid and dreadful? I also adore Liverpool Express's 'You Are My Love'; I have fond memories of one of my neighbours singing his own version of that beautiful ballad in his front room.

Colin H can emigrate to Antarctica as far as I'm concerned.

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goldheartbadge | 5 July 2011 - 10:03pm

But before emigrating, Goldie...

...I'll check out some more G&L and LE on youtube or wherever. I've made sweeping judgements (actually only on G&L - I quite liked LE, though couldn't understand why the song never 'took off' at any point: middle eight, chorus etc) based on small evidence, but I'm happy to have another look.... :-)

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Colin H | 6 July 2011 - 8:20am

oh, I really hope that

rumoured tour firms up!

Didn't know about the Barrowlands thing. Was it a full set by them? did they have a band?
Only heard about the Largs gigs after the fact, too, irritatingly.

Anyway, I'll keep an eye out for a tour.
Cheers.

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iainiain | 7 July 2011 - 8:17am

Gallagher and Lyle

They performed 6 songs at Barrowlands, where they shared the bill with Jim Diamond (on top form), Midge Ure and Marti Pellow. The all-star concert, billed as 'The Big Gig', was in aid of the Scottish charity 'Cash For Kids'. A stellar house band, including former members of Wet Wet Wet and Hue & Cry, accompanied the various acts.

Benny and Graham performed a 19-song set in Largs last autumn, including all their hits as a duo as well as the two McGuinness Flint smashes and even 'How Come' from their stint in Ronnie Lane's Slim Chance. They also performed hits they composed for others, such as Art Garfunkel's US AC hit 'A Heart In New York' and Don Williams' C&W No.1 'Stay Young'. This concert was in aid of Haylie House, a residential home in Largs. Accompanied by a 3-piece band, they opened with 'Willie', in which Benny used a harmonica on a holder!

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goldheartbadge | 7 July 2011 - 9:37am

The Largs

set sounds like just what I'd want to see them do on tour: a full set, including their "outside" songs, and a wee band backing them.

Cool, as I said, hope the tour happens. Cheers, thanks for the info.

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iainiain | 7 July 2011 - 10:12am

Hey, Goldie...

...just had a chance to check out G&L on youtube & wikipedia - it seems 'Heart On My Sleeve' is my blindspot for them (still think it's rubbish!), but 'Breakaway' is lovely - reminds me of Wings 'London Town' LP and Lindisfarne's 'Back & Forth', both of which I have a soft spot for - and I hadn't realised the McGuinness Flint connection before ('When I'm Dead & Gone' is terrific). So, cap doffed, no offence etc etc...

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Colin H | 8 July 2011 - 8:33pm

Gallagher and Lyle

All is forgiven; I retract my earlier comment about emigration. It's just certain songs by G&L you dislike, 'Heart On My Sleeve' among them.

Benny Gallagher's son Julian writes amazing songs, too; he co-wrote Kylie Minogue's 'In Your Eyes' and Five's 'Let's Dance' among others.

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goldheartbadge | 9 July 2011 - 4:34pm

He'll be a relatively wealthy man then!

...I wonder will anyone pop up now to say 'Hang on a minute, Brotherhood Of Man were GREAT!' Are we all missing something there too?

Fingers crossed, touch wood and all that but I think we can all agree: "No!"

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Colin H | 9 July 2011 - 5:15pm

No danger of any Brotherhood Of Man revisionism, but...

... that bizarre Mud disco track (Shake It Down) that's been on a number of editions lately is (whisper it soft) some pretty funky stuff... it helps not to see the band's mugging onscreen of course, but if it were by (say) KC & The Sunshine Band, I'm sure it would be a staple on "I Heart The 70's"-type compilations...

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Metal Mickey | 11 July 2011 - 8:49am

It's a fair point, Mick...

...I'd never heard it before but was pretty au fait with the rest of their hits (which are of course a completely different style). You've probably got a point - if it was a song recorded by anyone else, without the 'baggage', it might well be a kitsch compilation/wedding disco staple.

And you're right about the mugging on camera: NOTHING about Les Gray and the boys camping and mincing around helps to sell the song! With or without DLT showboating around in the background.

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Colin H | 11 July 2011 - 9:21am

Ditto on that, it's a right groovy thing.

And one I have absolutely no memory of,despite clearly recalling specific bits from these very shows from their original runs.

Les Gray, God rest his soul. Nice bloke by all accounts but no-ones idea of how a Pop star should look - even in the 1970's. And especially not a disco gangsta.

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BernkastelCues | 11 July 2011 - 10:08am

The Mud track is what I had in mind...

...when I wondered if any artists had benefited sales-wise from these repeats: perhaps viewers who only knew Mud for Tiger Feet, Lonely This Christmas etc have had their prejudices confounded by that particular earworm?

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Paolo Meccano | 11 July 2011 - 11:53am

I read that the Liverpool Express track...

... received a significant sales bump after the most recent show (Candi Staton, too.)

The iTunes chart (rolling 48 hours' data I believe) is available as a RSS feed from http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wpa/MRSS...

The Amazon MP3 chart is http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=digital-music&...

Both (especially Amazon) are so large as to be semi-unusable, but are interesting in seeing these odd anomalies from time-to-time. Bearing in mind recent other climbers like Pulp's post-festival "Common People" and Wilson-Phillips' "Hold On" (as used heavily in the "Bridesmaids" movie), I think I'd like to see a chart made up of oldies propelled back into the spotlight by that kind of "alternative" exposure...

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Metal Mickey | 11 July 2011 - 12:35pm

Mud were

my first gig in March 1973 when I was seven - I went with my Mum and Dad to the Ulster Hall in Belfast to see them, and I got most of their RAK singles, but I have no recollection of this tune.

It's rather good though, a very early pre-cursor to the stuff Rob Davis did over 20 years later, so it's a pity that the original doesn't appear to be on iTunes or Amazon.

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KDH | 31 July 2011 - 1:12pm

Gallagher and Lyle

will be touring Scotland in March 2012. They'll be playing 8 dates in all; details are on the website "Ents24". Book ASAP, as tickets are selling fast! I've just booked my seat at The Queens Hall, Edinburgh.

I live on Merseyside, but I don't mind travelling 170 miles; I've always wanted to visit the Athens of the North, anyway.

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goldheartbadge | 5 August 2011 - 4:54pm

Doesn't the name give it away?

Top of the Pops ... not Top Of The Critically Acclaimed in Retrospects
And it was BBC1 evening viewing for the whole family - not for solipsistic 14 yr olds - so DLT introducing Echoes by 'Which one's Pink?' Floyd would always have been highly unlikely...

Edit: or Saville ... 'And deep beneath the rolling waves in labyrinths of coral caves, now then now then...'

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Glenbervie | 5 July 2011 - 10:27pm

I wonder how much...

...'being there at the time' had/has to do with one's appreciation of a lot of this music?

I mean this in a very specific, hard to articulate sense - the thing being that when one is basically looking at the show and hearing the music for essentially the first time, from the perspective of all the developments in music and TV production/presentation that have happened in the intervening years, it will have a different effect than that had on a listener/viewer who is experiencing a jolt of nostalgia (who was there first time around). In a way, the latter individual isn't having to make the gargantuan 'allowances' that the first-time 35-years-on viewer is having to make, be that consciously or subconsciously.

Maybe Bolan's tired-looking performance of what seems to be a very flimsy song really WAS an exciting way to start the show back then? But it seems hard to comprehend now, when you're subconsciously waiting for 'something to happen' in the song, and it never does. Gallagher & Lyle may be another good example: maybe their music had a welcome and accessible place back in the day, in the context of everything else at that time; maybe it sounded fresh and different. All I can say, on one viewing, was that 'Heart On My Sleeve' sounded like it was a first-gear plod-along with an underdeveloped chord structure (I kept WILLING them to go to that seemingly obviously fourth chord in the chorus... but they never did!).

But I'm going to give G&L another go, because I'm increasingly thinking that there's something claustrophobically 'flattening' about the TOTP in-studio performances, possibly because of MU re-record obligations or just the dreary TV production of that period (TV production which had been a lot more engaging 5 years earlier, so it wasn't just 'the technology of the day'). Interestingly, even the SAHB performance of 'Boston Tea Party' last week looked perfunctory and unengaging - like they'd been told 'on no account move off those spots on the floor'. It was their second performance of it on TOTP, and intriguingly their first one (with Alex seated with beard and straw hat) seemed somehow more gripping and characterful. Curious...

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Colin H | 6 July 2011 - 9:37am

Too much f****** perspective ...

Is what we all have now, I'd suggest ;-)

See this entire thread for example:

http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/help-second

[though we also live in a world where I can do a search on "Gould Pinker" in 0.2 seconds ... so it's no wonder we think differently ...]

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SpaceBoy | 7 July 2011 - 7:59am

G&L

were on the bill at one of the first gigs I ever went to - a charity concert organised by Ralph McTell at some central London theatre (I forget which).

They hadn't played together for some time - and they did their spot (four or ficve songs maybe ?) just them and acoustic guitars, and I couldn't believe how good they sounded stripped of the MOR band sound. Bought their greatest hits on the back of it, tried to love it, but new it was inferior to two voices and two acoustic guitars.

Juan Martin was on the same bill - that man can play guitar, and his recorded music doesn't disappoint.

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Slick | 23 October 2011 - 12:41am

Just awful 70s 'Light Ents' vibe about it all..

..& last week's episode with the buffoon DLT at the helm was particularly cringe-inducing, from the eye-stabbing intro schtick reading his medallion (yes it would be a medallion) upside down to making a nuisance of himself with the hapless Mud drummer - oh for the spirit of Keith Moon to have posessed the sticksman to ram his bass drum over the hairy one.

I saw DLT making a personal appearance at the late lamented 'Frenchman's Motel' in Fishguard in the late '77 where he had a rant about wishing punk had stayed in the closet before introducing '2-4-6-8 Motorway' as 'proper music'. I'm sure Tom Robinson would have rejoiced at the blessing. The highlight of the night was the entrance of local DJ 'Charlie' into the club on a white horse, to be inevitably acclaimed by DLT as a 'nutter'.

You had to be there..

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DeanDwl | 6 July 2011 - 10:56am

the buffoon DLT

Just read that comment & have now got tea coming out of my nose.

the buffoon DLT - brilliant, I will be chuckling at that all day.

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jackthebiscuit | 10 July 2011 - 2:16pm

And yet...

...from the way you describe it, I'm glad I wasn't!

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Colin H | 6 July 2011 - 11:21am

I know..

..as a 16 year old it's how I felt at the time, that angsty adolescent 'Catcher In The Rye' intense dislike of adult crappyness - but looking back, from my very own adult crappyness, I'm glad I witnessed it.

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DeanDwl | 7 July 2011 - 6:42am

1976

I've long believed that 1977 was the year when the record companies stopped being hippies and started to regard the whole thing as a business. The year before, virtually anything could be released and might be a hit, or might not. The labels were still riding on a wave of hippy altruism. There wasn't much A&R. I think this left the goalposts wide open for whatever was ready with an aggressive marketing strategy, such as punk, or Fleetwood Mac.

In the UK the summer of love never quite happened, and all the peace and love stuff was falling back to the default setting of light entertainment, with brass bands never far behind. Medleys of chart hits sung by Peter Glase and Don McClean on Crackerjack. It was a bit like the time in the US between Buddy Holly & The Beatles.

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Devadip Cliff R... | 7 July 2011 - 8:32am

Peter Glaze sings David Bowie:

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Kit Hogue | 7 July 2011 - 9:56am

See? It's 1976

Light entertainment was the default setting.

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Devadip Cliff R... | 7 July 2011 - 10:19am

"Peter,

you've taken that song and you've made it your own."

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Brookster | 9 July 2011 - 11:47am

The sound of children cheering in unison...

is probably more emblematic of 1970s television for me than anything else. There's something so charming about it when one hears it now... it seems like something from another age. Which I suppose it is.

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Patrick Crowther | 29 July 2011 - 9:34am

Agree Patrick

I think kids cheering was 'flown in' for the Marc shows (don't remember seeing an audience), but any excuse for a clip.

I don't think this ever bothered the charts, but it's a good tune - wouldn't have gone amiss on a '76 TOTP, but it's home-from-school-time, late 1977...

Alfalpha 'If I Could Just Get Through Tonight'

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Happy Castle | 29 July 2011 - 9:15pm

Alfalpha

reminded me very much of America and CSNY. Unfortunately, the London-based trio appeared on the scene at the height of punk; their acoustic folk-rock style was passe by then.

One member of the band briefly tasted fame: Nick Laird-Clowes, on the left, re-emerged in the mid-80s as lead singer of Dream Academy, who had a hit on both sides of the Atlantic with 'Life In A Northern Town'.

Andy Harley, in the middle, was one of two failed rock stars to appear on the ITV game show "The $64,000 Question" in the early 90s; the other was former Lindisfarne drummer Paul Nicholls.

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goldheartbadge | 1 August 2011 - 8:45pm

Vs Beat Club

I have only caught one or two of BBC Four's TOTP episodes but this thread has brought to mind the German Beat Club DVD set I have at home, covering every episode that has survived from 1965-1968 (nearly all of them, in fact).

The thing I was most surprised about, while going through each half-hour installment transfixed with amazement, was the amount of mainstream pop mixed in with artists from what we regard now as the canon. It gives a very true picture of the then-contemporary beat/pop scene in Germany - one minute you have a snarling adolescent Who, the next local garage rock wannabes The Lords complete with shocking medieval page-boy haircuts, goofing about on stage. It removes the rose-tinted filter and is all the better for it, in my opinion.

And guess what? DLT is there in many episodes as co-host , acting the twat.

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Noise Annoys | 7 July 2011 - 2:24pm

"acting the twat"?

No, not acting....

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Neil Dyson | 7 July 2011 - 3:22pm

I think I read once that

that "German" programme was actually filmed in London, so as to have access to as many bands as possible, hence DLT (and his ilk) appearing.

Or that might have been a different foreign music show, of course...

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iainiain | 7 July 2011 - 5:15pm

DLT - almost a defense

There was a culture of 'looning' in the 70s, which most of the R1 DJs subscribed to. I can still remember people in the 80s praising comedians for being 'mad' or 'nutters'. Dave Lav Trellis was just one of many, surely Kenny Everett or Adrian Juste are other examples. The world hasn't always been as sophisticated as it is now (yes, we've still got a way to go).

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Devadip Cliff R... | 7 July 2011 - 6:56pm

double post

quack quack oops

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Devadip Cliff R... | 7 July 2011 - 6:57pm

That's not how I remember it...

It seems wrong to use TOTP as any kind of barometer of quality for music in 1976. I was 18 at the time and absolutely no-one I knew would go out of their way to watch it, though in those days of 3 channels if you were indoors, you'd see it. It did change when the punk/new wave thing brought back more focus on singles but in the period being shown by the BBC at the moment, forget it, it had become dismissed as mainly something for parents and younger children to watch, with the occasional watchable item. Looking back at the television of 1976 generally, let alone TOTP, is a poor way of finding out what was happening musically at that time.

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lucknow1856 | 7 July 2011 - 7:07pm

1976

I think I drifted away from music for awhile sometime around '75 after Slade seemed to dissapear.. Looking back there was a lot of great stuff around, just not much for a 12/13 year old.. Looking back at these shows I can see why my interest waned..then sometime around 76 a mate introduced me to a Rockabilly compilation and I was sold.. Excitment was what I wanted and here it was.. Course Punk came along just after.. but I was already on my journey.... I think I had a lot of mates from that time who started looking back at music from the past cos the stuff around then seemed so bland..

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Gurney-Slade | 8 July 2011 - 8:11pm

15/7/11

My word, did anyone see last week's TOTP 76? Easily the worst so far.

Diddy Dave. (Who to be fair is a very nice man, I used to work with him. But carrying a teapot around with him? and those jokes? Oh dear)

Pilot's song about Canada, a laughable effort. I've rarely heard anything so half arsed, especially now I've done some research and found out they were Scottish.

Ruby Flipper carrying each other on their shoulders.

Diddy to young girl: Do you like Lee Garrett? (bemused look)

The only bit that wasn't a total disaster was The Real Thing claiming No1 off The Wurzels. Despite it being a mainstay of the Heart FM/wedding disco scene, it was a great performance of a great song. Sensational Alex Harvey Band were a bit different as well.

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Art Vandelay | 18 July 2011 - 12:02pm

That Ruby Flipper stuff...

...is just wretched, isn't it? My wife - not from the UK and who never saw, it seems, any BBC style light entertainment shows in the 70s - simply can't understand what all this group dancing stuff is for or about, and how anybody, at any time ever, thought it something worth having on TV. And that includes the cataclysmicly pointless and awful New Edition with their sub-Peter-Kay-going-to-Amarillo moves a few weeks back. And, I have to say, I have no answer. It's like an emperor with no clothes. it's just silly. Why did nobody point this out at the time?

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Colin H | 18 July 2011 - 11:56am

While they were at it

They could have had a quiet word with Diddy Dave about his combover.

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Brookster | 18 July 2011 - 12:15pm

WIG!!!!

WIG!!! WIG!!! WIG!!!

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Kit Hogue | 18 July 2011 - 12:40pm

The rug

appeared later. That was definitely a combover.

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Brookster | 18 July 2011 - 1:21pm

There seemed to have been a lot...

...of combovers going around the pop world in those days. Most of the Sutherlands & Quiver, from memory, and various others. It was never a good look.

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Colin H | 18 July 2011 - 1:07pm

A few rock combovers

from a previous discussion.

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Brookster | 18 July 2011 - 1:24pm

28/7/11

Bump for yesterday's edition.

Blimey. I wasn't there at the time, but I like to think I know a lot about music, but it turns out I know nothing at all. I have honestly never in my life ever heard even a mention of Sunfighter (quirky), Glamourpuss (attractive but rubbish) or Jimmy James and the Vagabonds. I know and enjoy the work of Status Quo, but have never heard that song (I don't think Noel told us what it was called unfortunately, It was pretty good). I'd heard of Liverpool Express, but only because they were on a couple of weeks ago.

It just goes to show, every day is a school day.

The info bar thingy on Sky said there would be a band called 100 Ton & A Feather performing, but they were nowhere to be seen. They must have been edited out, not sure why. ;)

Song of the show for me? This below. Have you ever heard anything like it? This is surely the embodiment of being suffocated slowly in blancmange. Love the girl in the front row in the stripes dancing like it's a Tiesto show or something!

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Art Vandelay | 29 July 2011 - 9:22am

Quo track

is Mystery song I think based on singles info at statusquo.co.UK

[edit: and here's the clip]

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SpaceBoy | 1 August 2011 - 7:59am

100 Ton & A Feather.

100 Ton & A Feather were a Jonathan King pseudonym, scoring a hit with a cover of "it Only Takes A Minute". There's probably good reason why it was edited.

Sunfighter were a bit strange. Their song Drag Race Queen seemed to consist of snippets of up to a dozen other songs stitched together. One member was Girls Aloud's Sarah Harding's father, whilst the lead singer was apparently Rikki who represented the UK in the 1987 Eurovision song contest, coming close to last.

I've no idea as to who Glamourpuss were. The only fact I can find is that they recorded a couple of singles for Bus Stop records in 1976, neither of which bothered the charts. Bus Stop was co-owned by songwriter Mitch Murray, so he may have penned the song itself.

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JQW | 29 July 2011 - 9:01pm

100 Ton and a Feather's performance...

...being excised concerns me: it's nothing short of cultural revisionism. If these shows are going to be shown, it should be in full, warts-and-all, so that we can see the performances in context, otherwise they may as well switch to a TOTP2-style clips format.

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Paolo Meccano | 31 July 2011 - 12:05pm

Totally agree, Paolo

As far as I'm aware there's no public BBC policy on (say) playing music by convicted felons, and that being the case, to just leave out performances at someone's whim is the thin end of a very thick wedge.

1
Metal Mickey | 1 August 2011 - 8:11am

Which king had the most children?

Doesn't Jonathan King have a regular slot in the show in the early-mid 80s? I have distant memories of him driving around LA in the titles?

Are those episodes going to face the BBC4 knife in a few years' time?

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Art Vandelay | 1 August 2011 - 9:41am

It was I believe

It was I believe Entertainment USA that you may be thinking of, a spin-off from TOTP. I agree, much as I dislike Jonathan King I don't think it should have been removed.

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hubertrawlinson | 1 August 2011 - 7:16pm

No.

Jonathan King definitely did have an insert slot in Top Of The Pops for a while, where he would introduce a couple of current US hits and perform short interviews.

I can recall him introducing Deely Boppers to the UK in one such snippet, which would date that one to mid 1982. I can also recall an interview with Hall & Oates in another slot.

0
JQW | 1 August 2011 - 9:55pm

Blimey!

Thanks for clearing that up. Strange that I can remember that though, seeing as I would have been 4 in 1982!

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Art Vandelay | 2 August 2011 - 9:44am
Art Vandelay | 19 October 2011 - 11:25am

Better late than never, I suppose.

It's a curious double-standard that King's performances have been excised while those of the Bay City Rollers (one of whom was convicted of possessing child pornography) have been left alone.

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Paolo Meccano | 19 October 2011 - 11:50am

Jesus

That Glamourpuss performance was execrable. Almost as sad as Ruby Flipper's HJH routine.

Sunfighter were derivative but actually not all that bad, really; quite enjoyed it. The Quo song (Mystery Song) is decent old Quo, so you can't go wrong really. Jimmy James was OK too, if you like that kind of smooth soulful stuff. I'm not the biggest fan but it wasn't awful by any means.

More seriously, I too am concerned about 100 Ton and a Feather being airbrushed away. As others have said, it has slightly Maoist overtones of removing 'undesirables' from the historical record. However unpleasant JK's activities were, this does not excuse them being excised from here. God knows what happens when we get to any stray Gary Glitter (or the Timelords...)

As for Demis Roussos - I kind of like him - great voice, though liked the strange Aphrodite's Child 666 stuff with Vangelis even more...

0
illuminatus | 1 August 2011 - 3:00pm

Bobby Goldsboro's barnet

is proto-Justin Bieber

0
Brookster | 29 July 2011 - 9:36pm

Hmmmm...

It looks more like Lego to me.

0
JQW | 29 July 2011 - 10:35pm

"Sennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn-sational!"

...just watched last Saturday's episode and Tony Blackburn manages to say this word no less than seven times in the half hour. Admittedly two or those relate to the 'Sennnnnnnnn-sational' Alex Harvey Band, but the rest refer to acts which are generally some way short of being sensational or anything of the sort.

If anyone thought the Blackburn/Sensational thing was a bit of an urban myth like the Barry Norman/'And why not?' thing, this was the TOTP episode to reveal the horrible truth...

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Colin H | 30 July 2011 - 1:04am

They cut Can's 'I Want More' from tonights TOTP76.....

.....possibly the most interesting track so far in this year of Guilty Pleasures. A real shame.

Of course the late night repeat is full length with no edits but that version is never available on the BBC Iplayer.

Just a shame I thought. I mean, we got Aker Bilk and an animated Chi-lites video instead and way too much Ruby Flipper (hurry up Leg's and Co.)

Whoever edited this edition down needs to be covered in blancmange. Hurrumph!!!

0
Almost Simon | 15 September 2011 - 8:26pm

I have a series link on the full-length edition

but generally watch them on fast forward as there's precious little difference between shows. Can will be a refreshing change.

0
stimpy | 15 September 2011 - 8:30pm

Punk rock hasn't arrived

But Eddie and the Hot Rods have! Straw in the wind...

Agnetha was brilliant in Dancing Queen. Not just pulchritude, but investing meaning in what I've always thought were good, offspring-of-Petula-Clark's-Downtown, lyric. She wants to hear them play the rock music...

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Anglepoised | 25 September 2011 - 1:22pm

That's my fave clip

The Hot Rods I mean. They were the first band on TOTP to look like me (and that's pretty much the way my then band played too). Love it to bits.

Not so much Abba. T'was music for older married types back then and it still reeks of that to me.

1
Jorrox | 13 October 2011 - 5:23pm

... And again...

Honestly. The repeats. Was it always like this?

I'm sure Blinded by the Light has been on the last 3 weeks.

0
Art Vandelay | 29 September 2011 - 7:52pm

Simple reason.

They weren't on three weeks in a row originally, just alternate weeks. Unfortunately the episodes that came in between are not in the BBC's archives.

0
JQW | 29 September 2011 - 8:05pm

Confused...

I thought that, when there was no episode in the archive, they simply weren't broadcasting a TOTP76. Thus certainly happened a few weeks back.

0
stimpy | 29 September 2011 - 8:07pm

Well.....

At the moment they're missing one showing a month for The Sky At Night. It conveniently covers the gaps for missing episodes, but it does mean that they can be a week or two out of sync.

0
JQW | 29 September 2011 - 8:28pm

..but on the plus side

we get The bloody Wurzels again! :(

0
Mr Fade | 1 October 2011 - 11:24am

I like The Sky at Night

Paddy Moore looks like Bagpuss

0
James Blast | 16 October 2011 - 1:14am

I think I'm right in saying...

... that the archives are complete from no on, so there should not be any more gaps, except when the Beeb decides they want one...

0
Metal Mickey | 3 October 2011 - 10:17am

A pedant writes...

For the first two weeks, Manfred Mann had a Minimoog Model D on which he played the wiggly rising note on the way into the chorus. Last week he had an ARP Odessey Mark 1 which produced *exactly* the same sound.

Uncanny... :-)

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stimpy | 1 October 2011 - 11:43am

Crikey...

...I assumed it was the same performance clip being repeated every time (hence fast forwarded through the 2nd, 3rd, etc times around). There's something about that song/their performance I find a bit irritating - probably the vocalist's pronunciation of certain words - 'Strooong up like a dooooce anoootha rooooona in the night'. I mean, for a start what the hell does that mean anyway?!?

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Colin H | 1 October 2011 - 2:27pm
stimpy | 1 October 2011 - 2:57pm

Fascinating stuff, Stimps...

...I've never heard the writer's version before. You must admit, though, that lyrical enunciation aside, Manfred did bring something to the arrangement? Interesting...

0
Colin H | 1 October 2011 - 3:04pm

I have to say, I've never been able to decide

which version I prefer. The original seems a little too frantic, almost as if he's trying to cram too many words into each line.

0
stimpy | 1 October 2011 - 3:07pm

Ah, but...

...listening to Bruce's version it's suddenly clear - and a way that it never was from the MM version - that it's basically just an exercise in word play or, a bit like a sort of blue collar travelogue 'I Am The Walrus' with a load of New Jersey patois and jargon in place of the Edward Lear stuff. It's a bit of clever fun rather than a song about anything much - the earnestness of the MM version leading you to believe that it was about something important...

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Colin H | 1 October 2011 - 3:22pm

I love the Manfred version

but it's better without the visuals. I don't mean to be nasty about the band but the song sounds brilliant on the radio or in a car but watching them on TV they just scream uncool - beards and dungarees uncool.

1
Mr Fade | 1 October 2011 - 8:43pm

Explanation from Bruce.....

......from the Storytellers show.

0
Almost Simon | 3 October 2011 - 11:25am

what does the

"Adolescent pumps his way into his hat" line mean?
Fapping a'la Lenny?

0
James Blast | 16 October 2011 - 1:19am

I'd never use my hat.

That's what socks are for.

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Lenny Law | 16 October 2011 - 9:30pm

Cramming too many

words into each line was Bruce's default position for the first few years. Made you feel out of breath just listening to his first couple of albums.

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ianess | 31 October 2011 - 3:53am
Happy Castle | 4 October 2011 - 10:10pm

Tonights episode (13th October) features Can - I Want More.....

.....first tune up on both the 7.30pm and midnight repeat. No edits now as the show is only 30 minutes long.

Be nice to see the performance of Can though which will this time be available on the iplayer after its broadcast. previously the BBC only showed the edited version on Iplayer.

0
Almost Simon | 13 October 2011 - 4:58pm

Never mind that

when are we going to get Pussycat??

0
Five-Centres | 13 October 2011 - 5:02pm

Next week when its at number 2......

.....and then for the following 4 weeks after that when its at number 1. Unfortunately Paul Nicholas is back next week too.

7-10-76: Presenter: Jimmy Savile O.B.E.

(42) T-REX – Laser Love
(2) PUSSYCAT – Mississippi
(6) RICK DEES & HIS CAST OF IDIOTS – Disco Duck (danced to by Ruby Flipper)
(30) ENGLAND DAN & JOHN FORD COLEY – I’d Really Love To See You Tonight (video)
(24) THE DETROIT SPINNERS – The Rubberband Man (danced to by Ruby Flipper)
(20) THE MANHATTANS – Hurt (video)
(49) PAUL NICHOLAS – Dancing With The Captain
(18) SMOKIE – I’ll Meet You At Midnight
(1) ABBA – Dancing Queen (video) (and credits)

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Almost Simon | 13 October 2011 - 7:39pm

England Dan and John Ford Coley

were my old mans favourites and that song in particular takes the evocative readings to dangerous, I must try and catch this episode when i have the telly to myself, is it on again?

0
Dave Amitri | 13 October 2011 - 9:23pm

They'll be on the next episode....

....either next week or the week after.

0
Almost Simon | 13 October 2011 - 9:33pm

I really

like this song, a Todd Rundgren tune I believe:

"Love Is The Answer".

0
KDH | 13 October 2011 - 10:36pm

Just watching it

now. That curly haired bloke playing the piano is the worst thing I've ever experienced in my life.

0
Jim M | 13 October 2011 - 9:05pm

Even my kids

who I've infected ceasellessly with great 70s toons commented

'This is all rubbish isn't it Dad?'

I had to sadly agree...

0
whitehorsehill | 13 October 2011 - 10:47pm

Poptastic TOTP

Well, I really enjoyed this week's TOTP. Despite Travis being even more rancid and futile than ever, consider the billing:

- One copper-bottomed all-time classic from Abba, with a perfectly decent video
- One left-field zinger from Can, studio-bound but acceptably presented (love the bowed guitar)
- Tina Charles, who must have been about 4'10", but put plenty of heart, and a unique voice, into a pretty duff song. I LIKE Tina Charles (and I put it to you, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, that there is no better song to be played at a fairground than I Love To Love)
- Sherbert - yes, you enjoyed Pilot, and the Starland Vocal Band, so here's another damned catchy (inane) tune. Sherbert themselves looked old enough to have started their careers working with Joe Loss - "this is it fellas - at last, we've cracked the bigtime!"
- Randy oh-so-sensitive Edelman. Well, it was of its time. The thinking man's Barry Manilow. Leo Sayer's hair but with the added value of not having Leo Sayer's voice. That sort of thing.
- Poor old Ruby Flipper (not long for this world). The costumes were still silly, but at least they could just line up and disco dance. Much the best way.

A couple of others passed me by, incl the Roussos follow-up, but overall I probably enjoyed more of this than I did when it was new.

Take them for what they are - the past is another country...

0
Anglepoised | 14 October 2011 - 10:43pm

Don't get me wrong

just because I think something's rubbish doesn't mean I can't enjoy it.

2
Jim M | 14 October 2011 - 10:51pm

Tina Charles

I Love to Love is fabulous. I was six years old when it came out and it is burned into my head forever. In a good way.

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illuminatus | 14 October 2011 - 10:59pm
stimpy | 16 October 2011 - 11:40am

Not quite, Stimpy...

... it was a Biddu production, but Trevor Horn and Geoff Downes (later The Buggles) were amongst his regular sessionmen, and almost certainly played on "I Love To Love" (though I think his "Kung-Fu Fighting" was just before their time.) Biddu also produced recent TOTP '76 fixture "Now Is The Time" for Jimmy James & The Vagabonds, and though he disappeared from view somewhat in the West, he was absolutely huge in Asia throughout the 80's (as indeed was Geoff Downes, arf, arf!)

1
Metal Mickey | 17 October 2011 - 10:08am

first one I've caught - a review

Can - What!? that's not Michael Karoli in a wig. Is it?
Randy Edelman - drip
Sherbet - why?
a Ruby Flipper moment - avoided
Tina Charles - fap (back then, not now… although)
Jesse Green - '‪Nice and slow‬, that's how yon flute should be inserted into you Jess
Demis Roussos - stick to progressive rock fat bloke
Ab-Ba - Jeeziz! Nope, don't get them. Not big, not clever, fuck off!

and DoLT was a cock as per his contract

0
James Blast | 16 October 2011 - 1:10am

CAN

Karoli couldn't make the recording due to illness, so a roadie stood in for him.

0
JQW | 19 October 2011 - 11:55am

Meanwhile, somewhere behind the studio

SCENE: The TOTP dressing room, October 1976. At one end of the room, the late Flick Colby is rummaging through her dressing-up basket, looking for props; at the other, the DJs are chained up in their cages, waiting to be let out to perform on the wireless or (joy!) present another edition of Top... of the Pops!

FLICK: The girls were great this week. Hope we get another chance to do Disco Duck, I've got some great new ideas. But... what's this? [She pulls a crystal ball from the depths of her basket.] Interesting!

SAVILE: Now then, now then, now then. What have we here, Miss Flick Colby?

FLICK: Well, fellas, if I peer into this thing, I seem to get a vision of the future.

HAMILTON: You mean, there's a future?

FLICK: Not for you, unless the endless repetition of the labors of Sisyphus sounds appealing. But I can see... 2011. There are men - old men [the DJs get excited, for they themselves are already old men], and some chicks too [the DJs start to howl], and they're watching this year's Top of the Pops, every week, on BBC Four.

EDMONDS: That would be my own personal channel. I''m so damned personable, so clean and presentable, the BBC will put me in front of everything.

FLICK: No, no, the old men are watching us, like wraiths from a distant past, and they're talking about us on... on... Well, it would appear to be a television with a typewriter and a telephone attached. And a computer.

EDMONDS: But that would be amazing. I could front Tomorrow's World talking about that. You'd need a lorry for all that kit. I could front Top Gear and talk about that.

TRAVIS: A lorry? A truck? 10-4, rubber duck, looks like we've got us a convoy! [The other DJs throw insults, faeces etc at Travis.]

FLICK: No, the old men are talking about us. They're analysing every show in absurd detail. They're taking it all very, very seriously.

HAMILTON: But a lot can change in 35 years, surely. When I was setting out on my light entertainment career, 35 years ago...

FLICK: The Japs hadn't even bombed Pearl Harbor yet. Yes, it's a long time ago. But they're analysing our every move - us and the pop stars.

[The DJs look momentarily baffled. With the exception of Blackburn, they had forgotten that pop stars appeared on the Top of the Pops. They thought it was their show.]

TRAVIS: Well, if I'd known I was creating a lasting body of work, I'd have been zanier, whackier - I would have given the viewers a true insight into my soul. [FLICK shudders delicately.]

FLICK: And they're talking about Steely Dan, Neil Young and Pink Floyd. At some length. [The DJs look baffled. They are not familiar with these names.]

BLACKBURN [pulling himself together, it doesn't do for the DJs to suffer reflective moments]: Well, I don't know about you fellas, I'm going to spend the next 35 years doing exactly the same things as I do today.

FLICK: You will, Tony, you will. And you will be strangely admired for it.

OTHER DJs: Me, me, what about me, what does the future hold?

FLICK: Well, Sir Jimmy... [The DJs preen themselves.]

TRAVIS: I expect we'll all be knights and lords. I'm going to dedicate myself to the cause of freedom-fighting in south-east Asia. And snooker on the radio.

HAMILTON: I'm going to look for more daytime work in commercial television.

FLICK: Well, boys, I'm sure you'll all have long and successfuul careers at Radio 1. But [scratches head, looks baffled], beware of the Bannister!

[The DJs grunt, pick nits out of their fur and dig around in their straw for Radio 1 Roadshow souvenirs, and Flick goes off to create Legs & Co. Somewhere in the night, Johnny Rotten is gobbbing.]

CURTAIN

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Anglepoised | 22 October 2011 - 8:18am

Funny but come on,

DLT might be the very definition of a berk but I'd lay a pound to a penny he loves Steely Dan, Neil Young and Pink Floyd.

0
Mr Fade | 22 October 2011 - 12:42pm

that's brilliant

btw :-)

0
niscum | 22 October 2011 - 8:31pm

A...

...masterpiece! :-D

0
Colin H | 22 October 2011 - 11:13am

The Manhattans

I thought they were great on this week's show. I would not have given them the time of day in 76 but I really enjoyed 'Hurt".

0
Jorrox | 22 October 2011 - 12:58pm

What was going on with Mac Bolan's hair this week?

I don't remember a time when he didn't have the corkscrew hair...

0
stimpy | 22 October 2011 - 1:08pm

He still looks like a star

which is more than can be said for the rest of the band. What's going on with that bass player?

0
Mr Fade | 22 October 2011 - 1:16pm

Bunch of sessioneers on MU scale rate I'll be bound

and certainly not the T-Rex of old.

Bass player was obviously dragged out of bed whilst obeying the "Never turn down a session" dictum.

0
stimpy | 22 October 2011 - 1:19pm

Eh?

That's Herbie Flowers. Are you guys being funny and I'm being dim?

Who else is in the band though?

Have to say, that's not a great song. A half decent riff in search of a home is all it is.

0
Jorrox | 22 October 2011 - 3:20pm

Likewise, eh?

If I'm not mistaken, that's the mighty Miller Anderson (Keef Hartley, Savoy Brown, Spencer Davis, British Blues Quartet, his own band currently based in Germany, etc) on guitar.

Crap song, though...

0
piggers | 22 October 2011 - 4:04pm

Ta

I didn't know Mr Anderson.

I think this was the T Rex line up that toured in early 77 with The Damned as support. And then did the Marc TV that summer.

0
Jorrox | 22 October 2011 - 4:43pm

Miller Anderson also had a walk-on part in

'Diary Of A Rock & Roll Star' as Ian Hunter's dogsitter.

0
stimpy | 22 October 2011 - 8:36pm

I think that was the period...

...when he'd adopted the persona of 'Marco Bolantino'.

Great track though, and his last great single.

1
Paolo Meccano | 22 October 2011 - 5:38pm

Top tune

But Marc can do very little wrong in my eyes (er, well... 'New York City'...) Tony Newman on drums as well - playing here at Shea Stadium with the HJH's:

I loved the group of session guys Marc had around him in '76/'77; they found a groove and clearly enjoyed playing together, albeit an altogether different beast to the classic 'T.Rex'. And let this clip be proof to a Word Massivista who shall remain nameless but knows who he is - no-one could play guitar (or bend a note) quite like Marc ;-).

T.Rex - Soul of My Suit (Supersonic, 1977)

0
Happy Castle | 23 October 2011 - 12:17am

Whoever that blackguard is, HappyPerson...

...I would appear to share his views. Surely even the most ardent Marcophile wouldn't claim he's much of a player, would they...?

0
Colin H | 30 October 2011 - 10:54pm

Am I the only one

that thinks Jimmy Saville seemed mildly retarded in this week's episode?

0
niscum | 22 October 2011 - 1:27pm

Even Ricky Gervais

would rise above that one.

5
Leedsboy | 22 October 2011 - 3:36pm

One other thing

The final farewell, at the end of the show. Savile is doughnuted by girls-next-door, as ever, and announcing that Abba is still #1, and a mysterious grinning little bald man in a brown suit materialises on his left. Very curious.

0
Anglepoised | 22 October 2011 - 3:10pm

So when is this David Lynch version of TOTP on ?

I must be watching the wrong one ;-)

0
SpaceBoy | 26 October 2011 - 8:24am

paul nicholas

he looked great. That jacket was awesome. really cool.

0
niscum | 22 October 2011 - 7:58pm

in fact play the best

song on the show, Detriot spinners, Rubberman, over the best video, paul nicholas and it's like an OGWT special.It's the same flippin beat I swear!!

I could be a producer already.

Here's what you need:

and scroll forward to PN at about 19.45

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01692kw/Top_of_the_Pops_07_10_76/

Play them together mind!

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niscum | 22 October 2011 - 8:56pm

This week...

I thought Tavares were great! And it was nice (?) to see the Pussycat video again, though once will do.

Otherwise, another grim selection. David Essex was always a song-and-dance man, bless him. Hamilton was selling carpet tiles (he had one displayed on his head).

And who or what was Simon May? The poor man's John Miles? Utterly dire, unredeemed even by the lovely Lulu.

0
Anglepoised | 29 October 2011 - 6:11pm

Simon May

- probably best known for this:

Eastender's theme.

0
KDH | 30 October 2011 - 8:17pm

A nice little earner over the years!

I wonder what the composer royalties are like for the Allmans, now Top Gear is shown in every country in the world?

0
Anglepoised | 30 October 2011 - 11:24pm

Don't forget

this:

or this:

He's got a lot to answer for, has Simon bloody May.

0
illuminatus | 31 October 2011 - 7:01pm

He also wrote this

thus practically creating the undying phenomenon of Wicksy-Off-Of-EastEnders-Crucifying-Buddy-Holly every sodding Sunday night for the past 68 years on ITV.

[For the YouTubeless, the clip is of Nick Berry singing "Every Loser Wins." Be grateful you can't see or hear it.]

0
Wardour | 4 November 2011 - 6:42pm

Line-up

A few weeks ago, I clicked on the 'info' button on my remote to see who was appearing on TOTP 1976 that evening. Rather tickled to see that 'Bryan Ferry and The Wurzels' were set to appear. Any you think Lou Reed and Metallica is a strange combo?

0
ianess | 31 October 2011 - 3:06am

Country Life

Brian Ferry & the Wurzels, growing potatoes by the score (oo-aarh, oo-aarh).

1
Anglepoised | 31 October 2011 - 7:25am

In Every Dream Home a Turnip...

In Every Dream Home a Turnip...

2
Kit Hogue | 4 November 2011 - 12:38pm

Not forgetting, from Country Loif

All oi wants is ee

3
Alan Latchley | 4 November 2011 - 6:30pm

Late to this thread

So please forgive my very belated laughing out loud

0
FakeGeordie | 23 December 2011 - 9:20pm

I had visions of Father Ted watching the recent episode...

...with Ed Stewart repeatedly referring to 'the lovely girls' in both the audience and the simpering line-up of women with fluffy hair in the yet-to-be-named Legs & Co.

The Climax Blues Band Couldn't Get It Right. And they weren't alone in that. Nobody on that show could get it right if there was a huge big arrow saying 'Right' with flashing lights around it, showing them the way...

0
Colin H | 4 November 2011 - 12:28pm

Ed Stewart was dire........

......next weeks show isnt much better but does feature one classic.

Joan Armatrading - Love and Affection

0
Almost Simon | 4 November 2011 - 12:36pm

Loved The Climax Blues Band last night......

.....great performance. I was tapping my feet along to that one. Not sure if they re-recorded the song or had just vocals but it sounded even better than the studio version. Best tune of the night.

The Rod Stewart video was awful for that song. Just footage of him looking moody and showing off Britt Ekland.

The Paul Nicholas tune, Dancing With The Captain was hilarious. Awfully bad but funny. Pussycat I can't help singing along with everytime.

And the competition to think of a name for the new dance troupe. Ruby Flipper didnt last long. 6 months at best. Legs and Co, although including some members of Ruby Flipper looked rather lovely to my eyes.

0
Almost Simon | 4 November 2011 - 12:32pm

14.10.76 - some notes

Steve Harley. Passing the commercial peak, but thank God it wasn't that piss-awful version of Here Comes the Sun they'd been doing a month before

At least the Paul Nicholas song wasn't Reggae Like It Used to be form earlier in the year. Or Grandma's Party, which I seem to remember coming along around New Year 76-77.

Stewpot looks like he's selling insurance. Badly.

Demis Roussos. Oh god, music to slash your wrists to. He has done some stuff I do like, but this wasn't it.

Rod Stewart. Christ, those TROUSERS. Aaargh. My eyes!

John Miles - I know we've had this out in another thread, but "meh" is just the only word that covers that utterly forgettable effort.

Average White Band - the sort of music junior office managers would use to seduce a dolly bird they'd just taken to dinner at a Beefeater and then given a lift home in their Vauxhall Viva (with all leather seats). Dire. Nice that the as yet nameless dancers were dancing in their mums' Laura Ashley drape offcuts too; with inflation at over 25%, times were tough in the wardrobe deprtment.

Climax Blues Band. More like it. Pretty good, actually.

All that and Joe frigging Bugner. But I like Pussycat. I was six when it came out, and it gives me warm fuzzy nostalgic memories.

We've got three years to wait for Adam and the Ants. Lumme!

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illuminatus | 4 November 2011 - 6:28pm

Goodness, this week's TOTP has provoked some comment!

And Illuminatus has stolen some of my best lines. Oh well, here goes:

...because, for my febrile mind, there was so much to enjoy in this week's Top... Of the Pops!

In the countdown, Lalo Schiffrin smoking his pipe. Channeling Bing Crosby? But where are today's pipe-smoking stars?

- Steve Harley and his silly scarlet suit (I fast-forwarded through his silly song.)

- Andy Hamilton's priceless impression of Demis Roussos.

- Rod'n'Britt: in the Navy! (Or was it hungover, backstage at an awards dinner?)

- John Miles playing something without a tune, sitting behind a piano that appeared to have been pulled out of a skip...

And suddenly I take back anything unkind I may have said about the DJs - even Travis, even Edmonds - having been exposed to a plank of wood shaped like Ed Stewart, stitched into his Bri-Nylon suit. And Planky's competition! - be still, my beating heart, but the answer is Legs & Co. What, Ruby Flipper? They never existed. You can read about it at the Ministry of Truth. There were never any blokes in the lovely new Top of the Pops dancers, just the girls. Just Patti, Sue, Rosemary, Lulu, Jill and Pauline. You want to debate that? Personally, I'd wrestle a cheetah any time for Lulu. On with the motley.

"We've got quite a soul feeling to the show tonight," said the Plank, introducing the Climax Blues Band, clearly heirs to the legacy of Aretha Franklin and OV Wright.

And to cap it all - Joe Bugner!

Kids today don't know they're born.

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Anglepoised | 4 November 2011 - 11:00pm

"Our all-lady dancing group"

Edmonds chooses his words with care, fails to name Legs & Co and then drowns the poor girls in dry ice. The song is Steve Miller's Rock 'n' Me, from the "Fly Like a Beagle" album (I think I've got that right) which certainly soundtracked a big part of my late 1976.

Prior to that, the Manhattans, in one of those rough promo films (did they all look that bad originally, or has the film stock deteriorated), and before that, Showaddywaddywaddy. God, I hated this record when it was new - HATED it. The Rubettes, Mud and Alvin Stardust had all been sent to the pop graveyard (some of them still kicking, but add a couple more screws to the coffin lid), and then, dammit, more bloody rock'n'roll revivalists making Cliff Richard look dangerous. (About time we discussed Harry on the Word blog; maybe some other time.) Now, I find I love the daft confidence of this lot - the costume changes (did I just see that? Oh yes), Mr Cool on the timpani, and the doo-wop guys who look like bookies' runners. And that misheard line: "your ass shining so brightly." I guess having an on-vacation Steve Tyler on vocals helps, but these guys knew they had a Number One.

Then, the High Numbers with Extra Bloody Swearing in Substitute. "I look all white, but my dad was black" - not sure that line would wash in 2011. Interesting story behind this reissue: the 'Oo were already on their third greatest hits, following on from the patchy Direct Hits and one-of-the-best-hits-albums-ever, Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy.

Following the Tommy movie, and in the absence of new material, it was time for a double retrospective, The Story of the Who, complete with TV ads and an exploding jukebox on the cover. Failure to include the original Brunswick hits (I Can't Explain, My Generation etc) meant that this was a second-rate and tawdry cash-gathering exercise, but Substitute was put out on a 12" single, with I'm a Boy on the B, and in the absence of other interest, it soared into the chart.

Anyway, oh yes, Top of the Pops. Doesn't Bonnie Tyler look young, before they invented the Steinman mullet?

"Five gentlemen from America - Tavares - and they don't stop the music for anybody." Do you see what Noel did there? Another fuzzy video, but the song holds up as strong mid-period disco.

The anticlimax Blues Band plodded through their pedestrian number, then Edmonds tried to talk wiggy, charismatic Chicago to number one (he succeeded). Pussycat? That joke's grown stale. Which pier was the video filmed on? Give me Showboat any time...

Rewind to watch one more song again. "Let's go for a little walk..."

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Anglepoised | 25 November 2011 - 11:04pm

A pretty good episode......

.....I love the Climax Blues band tune (everyone else hates it and thinks its plodding, maybe i'm just a fan of early pub rock,) and Bonnie's Lost In France, well, i've just added it to my ipod. Great tune.

Rock'n'Me is tops too. The Manhattans were naff, The Chicago interview was naff and smacked of the BBC wanting to be rid of Pussycat so bypassed their "you cant play the same song 2 weeks in a row" rule by inviting the guys on to plug their song, and as noted above, it worked. Dont you love the way the charts worked back then?? Do you trust them? I don't.

The Who at Charlton 74. Cant be beat. Very good episode. Possibly the best TOTP76 repeat to date.

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Almost Simon | 25 November 2011 - 11:28pm

Dig the beat

After a sleepless night of relentless TOTP analysis, I figured out why this was a good episode. No dreamy crooners wimping behind grand pianos - every song had a beat, every song was (Dad) danceable.

Can't wait for the next one. Some people measure out their lives in coffee spoons, but me it's TOTP every time.

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Anglepoised | 26 November 2011 - 5:09pm

Old Noel mentions that next week DLT will announce.....

....that the new dance troupe is called Legs and Co.

Aint going to happen. The next two episodes were wiped by the BBC including the following week which was the first ever presented by David Kid Jensen. BBC4 is showing the next available episode which is presented by the late Sir Jimmy Saville next Thursday. We're getting more upto date now and on schedule.

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Almost Simon | 25 November 2011 - 11:35pm

That Chicago interview...

...didn't those guys look like extras from an episode of The Rockford Files: beige/brown suits, bad haircuts, burger-bellies... I've never seen a less rock'n'roll looking trio... and what a cheesy song too (only the subdued brass arrangement saving it from the abyss...)

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Colin H | 26 November 2011 - 12:23am

just my imagination

Now that Legs and Co. are about to be sworn in to perform their sacred duties as the ‘Queen’s own interpreters of pop lyrics and tempos through the medium of dance’, I must admit that I’m missing Ruby Flipper. Not for their dancing, because I’m in no position to say whether or not their dancing was bad, good or mediocre. When dancers are on TV, I usually just concentrate on the movement of the ones I fancy the most. It’s hardly a sophisticated response, but it does at least allow me to have grounds for stating a preference. When the re-runs started and I was re-introduced to the delights of Ruby Flipper, I found, curiously, that I still liked the one that I used to fancy when I was a lad, all those years ago. That probably means something significant, unless it doesn’t.

All of which reminds me of a joke that was popular when I was at school.

A little boy says to his mum: “Mum, are Legs and Co. robots?” to which mum replies: “No, why do you ask that, son?” “Because” says the boy, “daddy said he’d like to screw the arse off one of them.”

To the jaundiced modern eye, the TOTP dancers and their all-too-literal interpretations of pop lyrics look somehow irredeemably naff. Sadly, it’s not just a comedic aspect that is noticeable; now that we’ve become accustomed to simulated sex as a virtual staple of ‘dancing’ in modern pop videos, those old-school routines look so impossibly innocent. It’s hard to imagine that there might have been time when these routines would have been considered suggestive, or perhaps even raunchy. The routines and the costumes were designed to leave some things to the imagination. Imagination, in those days, worked a lot of overtime. Imagination was busy filling in the blanks and embellishing ‘reality’, because reality was obliged to work to a pretty rigid set of rules. Nowadays, when you watch someone like Rihanna performing, your imagination is waiting in the wings, twiddling its thumbs, hoping in vain to be called into action. When you observe the leap that ‘reality’ has taken from 1976 to 2011 and consider the probability that the same kind of leap might be taken over the next couple of decades, you can only conclude that imagination is very shortly going to be out of a job.

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DC Eisenhower | 26 November 2011 - 3:57pm

Purely hypothetically...

... if someone had missed a show, let's say the 9th December 1976 edition from last week ("Diddy" David Hamilton presenting), would anyone here have a copy and be prepared to share it? Hypothetically, of course... ta.

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Metal Mickey | 23 December 2011 - 9:53am

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PM me

*cough*

(You ain't seen me - roight?)

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Paolo Meccano | 23 December 2011 - 11:22pm
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