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Top 50 bootlegs list? - sounds awful
A rival publication trumpet a top 50 list of the best boots on their cover. I saw the list and it is unbelieveably bad
50. The Troggs – The Troggs Tapes
49. Paul McCartney & Wings – The Nashville Sessions
48. Gillian Welch & David Rawlings – Live And Obscure
47. David Bowie – Toy
46. Buffalo Springfield – California Daze
45. Aztec Camera – Manchester Live Tape
44. Joe Strummer – When Pigs Fly
43. The La’s – The Kitchen Tape
42. Adam & The Ants – Madamstan
41. James Brown With Sly & Robbie – The Nassau Sessions
40. John Lennon And Paul McCartney – A Toot And A Snore In ’74
39. The Byrds – Tambourines & 12-Strings
38. The Smiths – Unreleased Demos & Instrumentals
37. Elvis Presley – Desert Storm
36. Keith Richards – Toronto Session/”I Got The Blues”
35. Jimi Hendrix/Traffic – A Session
34. PJ Harvey - Jungle Queen
33. The Soft Boys – The Day They Ate Brick
32. Arcade Fire – Demo 2001
31. Richard & Linda Thompson – Rafferty’s Folly
30. The White Stripes – The Legendary Lost Tapes
29. Elvis Costello – Our Aim Is True
28. Nico, John Cale & Brian Eno – Berline, Neue Nationalgalerie
27. The Who – Obscure And Oblique
26. The Cramps – The Ohio Demos 1979
25. Blur – Parklife Deluxe Bootleg
24. Leonard Cohen – The Other Leonard Cohen Album Vols 1 & 2
23. Van Morrison – Van The Man
22. New Order – Western Works
21. Steely Dan – The Last Gaucho
20. R.E.M. – The Elliot Mazer Demos
19. The Beatles – From Kinfauns To Chaos
18. Nirvana – In Utero (Steve Albini Mix)
17. Syd Barrett – Magnesium Proverbs
16. Television – Double Exposure
15. Wilco – Yankee Hotel Foxtrot Demos/Outtakes: YHF Engineer Demos
14. Kraftwerk – K4
13. Captain Beefheart – Hoboism
12. Kate Bush – The Cathy Demos
11. Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds – Call Of The Cavemen
10. Roxy Music – When We Were Young
09. Bruce Springsteen – The Ties That Bind
08. Led Zeppelin – The Lost Sessions
07. The Velvet Underground – Live At The Gymnasium
06. The Clash – Rat Patrol From Fort Bragg
05. Little Feat – Electrif Lycanthrope
04. The Rolling Stones – Place Pigalle
03. Neil Young – Chrome Dreams (Rust Edition)
02. Bob Dylan & The Band – A Tree Without Roots
01. The Beach Boys – Smile
Ok lazy tie in with Smile box set but really is this the best they could do? Amongst those "Toot & A Snore" is beyond dull (yes ita Johnny n Paulie after Fabs split but everyone is pissed) and some of the choices are bizarre. No Zeppelin Southampton 73 or MSG 'Four Blocks In the Snow'? Clash "Rat Patrol" rather than Palladium 1979, Jamaica 1982 or Complete Live at Bonds? The Beatles Ultra Rare Trax? No Stones Brussel's Affair 73? No Dylan 66 at all? No Blood On the Tapes? Not even the 'Standing On the Shoulders Of Giants' demos. Costello's King Of Americana?
My personal ten in no order would be
Dylan - Genuine Live 66 (all the sbds from Oz to the Albert hall)
Dylan - Blood On the Tapes (should be out officially)
Zeppelin -When We Were Kings (25\5\75 - Earls Court)
REM - From the Borderline (Bingo Handjob gig, 1991)
Costello - Crawling Thru The USA (two shows from the 78 US tour)
Clash - NYC Palladium 1979
Stones - I Gave Her Diamonds \ She Gave Me Disease (Exile unmolested outakes and sessions)
Bowie - Strange Fascination (LA 1974)
The Who - Amsterdam 1969
Springsteen - Winterland 1978 (the best show he ever played)
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That having been said
I would highly recommend these from their list
REM - Elliot Mazer Demos (Reckoning sessions)
Neil Young - Chrome Dreams
Nick Cave - Call Of the Caveman (Boatman's Call outatkes and demos)
Velvets - Live at The Gym (I have a lovely vinyl copy)
In Utero (Albini mix)
Smiths - unreleased Demos And Sessions (for those disappointed about no extras in the Smiths reissues)
If you want illegal Smiths
I think that The Smiths at The Electric Ballroom is your top choice, which I think was their first London concert. The picture wasn't finished, but you can tell from what was there that it was fully imagined, and that they knew exactly where they wanted to go.
Morrissey even acknowledges the bootlegger in the crowd before they play "Barbarism..."
@DFB
I'd swap your The Clash boot for 'Bond's 1981' I know they played several nights and I've downloaded a few but the first one I got (which is from a radio broadcast) is the best. I have 'Rat Patrol' too but it's a very poor recording so I'd rather not comment. Only other boot I really cherish is The Sisters Of Mercy's 'Floorshow' ep.
Amused by
the inclusion of "A Tree Without Roots" by BD&TB. To must of us it sounds like what it is: ten CD's worth of five hicks failing to hammer some kind of order in to a bunch of weed-addled in-jokes about washing lines, trees, eskimos and people called Homer who keep closing the door.
To twats like Greil Marcus and the usual Dylan anilinguists, however, these songs represent:
Well, first of all, what the fuck is a palaver? Don't break my flow by making me google shit every five lines, Greily, just get on with the business of making me laugh unintentionally, will you?
Secondly, how in God's name can this cack be in anyway considered analogous with the transformation of base metals into gold:
Transformation of base shite into slightly different base shite, more like.
"A Tree with Roots" that should be (I just C&P'd it)
is 4 Cds of the Dylan stuff akin to the 'Genuine Basement Tapes' of the 90's.
http://theband.hiof.no/albums/boot_tree_with_roots.html
'The Basement Reels' is 10 CDs of the Dylan and Band recordings.
http://theband.hiof.no/albums/boot_from_the_reels_complete_basements.htm...
So it's
like having only half of your teeth pulled out instead; that's marginally better I suppose.
As Larry Grayson once said
'Ooh what a palaver' - Is that what is meant? Seems like the author is challenged by the English language as far as I can see.
The article that inspired (sic) the post by DFB was a bit bland and I would have been much more interested in a proper article about bootlegs rather than a list. However the Wilco and Nick Cave items do sound pretty enticing.
The best Costello boots I have all came from Mr DFB anyway.
Dylan does polari:
now that would have been brilliant.
Oh ello Homer
How bona to vada your dolly old eke in ere, look at that naff ecaf on Robbie, eh? Still quite a basket and right butch, close the door
You might well have vardered
Ballad of a Thin Omy
Just Like a Polony
Maggie's Lattie
You forgot
New Polony
Harsh, sir, harsh
There are some real gems in there, amongst the more, um, incomplete items. Sign on the cross, teenage prayer and the 'foreign bib' version of You ain't going nowhere are all ace. One of the few in that list, I'd agree with, in fact.
Particularly baffling is the inclusion of 'Rafferty's Folly' which is an over-produced version of what Joe Boyd made as a great album. A better Richard Thompson inclusion might have been the Sufi tour, I think.
Where the hell
is Kingmaker live at the Portsmouth Pyramids October '92? Seminal.
Pah, music journos. What do they know.
Prince...
...Lovesexy tour, Osaka 1989 - all in lovely FLAC format.
The Beach Boys' Smile
Which one? Purple Chick? There are loads.
A Toot and a Snore is dreadful. They don't even sound like they're having a good time.
Neil Young
I've got lots of Neil Young ones. There are some particularly good compilations of Box-Set size ('Archives Be Damned', 'A Perfect Echo', 'Chrome Dreams II Tour'...). One of my favourite live ones is an On The Beach era gig from The Bottom Line (May 1974).
'Chrome Dreams' is a must though, obviously.
Yeah that
Bottom Line show is aces. Even with the clinking of bottles and people ordering drinks
No Sex Pistols' "Spunk"
...either.
It's available officially now
so has gone the way of the black album, the Judas/Free Trade Hall gig etc.
Genesis
How that other periodical could put such a list together and not include The Great Lost Live Album is beyond me.
No Grateful Dead either, but which SBD/AUD matrix of 77/05/08 to pick?
77/05/08
Erm ... that's the Cornell University show, isn't it? I never heard it.
Scarlet > Fire
The Scarlet > Fire from that night is unbelievably good - well, the whole tour is none too shabby.
Genesis ~ Montreal '74
nuff said, snuffles
L'ange Gabriel?
I have it on coloured vinyl, I think. My most treasured possession at one point.
20 April 1974
You might be interested to know that a DVD of the Montreal Show is now circulating online.
Notable omissions for me
Steve Earle & The Del McCoury Band - Live in Malmo, 1999. One of the best Steve Earle albums, official or otherwise.
Ryan Adams - Destroyer; Exit In with Gillian Welch
The Clash - D.O.A.
Whiskeytown - The Fucker Demos
Uncle Tupelo - Mississippi Nights
Lucinda Williams - Car Wheels On A Gravel Road - Gurf Morlix mix
As noted above by KidP - Neil Young's Archives Be Damned and the 10 discs in A Perfect Echo Series
The Gillian Welch set in the Uncut list - Live and Obscure is excellent.
Car Wheels
Gurf Morlix mix is indeed very good. Never heard the Whiskeytown demos unless they are the ones that turned up on the deluxe edition of Strangers Almanac.
I say chaps....
....bear in mind that the original list was studio boots only, which explains why none of those live ones were on it...
really?
oops.
In that case, as the OP wrote, should include Blood On The Tapes
I always thought
the Little Feat one was live.
They've slipped up then
Gillian Welch's Live & Obscure is a compilation of, guess what, live tracks. The Elvis Desert Storm album is live as is the Nico, Cale & Eno album.
As noted above Electrif Lycanthrope is live in a studio.
The Troggs Tape
I've never actually heard it. Where can I?
Also where can I get hold of Springsteen Winterland 1978?
Any help would be gratefully received.
Ahem
12/15/1978 - Prodigal Son At Winterland, San Francisco, CA (A TOP 55 SHOW)
Entire show (250+ mb)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R98G47S0
Part 1 (discs 1 and 2)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LZWRZEJ8
Part 2 (disc 3)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GRF5Z91Y
Set List: Badlands / Streets Of Fire / Spirit In The Night / Darkness On The Edge Of Town / Factory / Promised Land / Prove It All Night / Racing In The Streets / Thunder Road / Jungleland / The Ties That Bind / Santa Claus / Fever / Fire / Candy's Room / Because The Night / Point Blank / Mona - She's The One / Backstreets / Rosalita / Born To Run / Detroit Medley / 10th Avenue Freeze Out / Raise Your Hand / Quarter To Three
Notes: Broadcast on KSAN in San Francisco, CA. The stretch run of the Darkness tour featured several differences from early in the tour, most notably Bruce's regular inclusion of "The Fever" and "Point Blank," as well as opening the second set with "The Ties That Bind." This show is another nomination for greatest show of all time, and another show with which you should start your collection. The performances of "Prove It All Night," "The Promised Land," and "Backstreets" are some of the best of all time. It was first released on CD by Great Dane Records as "Live in the Promised Land," and then Crystal Cat released their version called "Winterland Night," and the remasterer extraodinaire Prodigal Son released his version called "Prodigal Son at Winterland."
N the Troggs
Thanks, "The Great DFB."
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If you want more
then just go here (beware you may lose your night)
nearly eveything in mp3. Nothing official naturally
btxmp3index.freeforums.org/index.php
Wot, no bonus tracks?
Disc three should have the following extras:
The promise
I fought the law
Heartbreak hotel
Lost in the flood
Adam raised a Cain
Chimes of freedom
Thats the
Crystal Cat release with bonus tracks from the Paramount 78 show. The "Prodigal Son At Winterland" is a remaster\mix and a bloody good job too
Yes I see that but why be so restrictive?
Plus the Velvets is a live gig as is the Little Feat. And if you're sticking to radio and studio sessions that doesn't explain the absence of
Blood On the Tapes
She Gave Me Diamonds...
The Rise And Rise of Ziggy (complate BBC sessions)
Thin Wild Mercury Sound (brill BOB sessions comp)
Brian Wilson - Sweet Insanity\Landylocked
King Of Americana - Costello King Of America sessions
Costello\Macca Collaboration - demo sessions and live
Oasis - SOTSOG Demos or Early Years pre fame tape
Olympic Sessions - Stones initial sessions with Mick Taylor
Pink Floyd - The Syd Barrett Years (BBC\studio)
Dylan Rolling Thunder 1974 and 1978 tour rehearsals
Radiohead - On a Friday (3 or 4 demo tapes)
Springsteen - the Unbroken Promise (tracks not on the official Promise Darkness sessions set
http://www.collectorsmusicreviews.com/springsteen-bruce/bruce-springstee...
Martin Stephenson & The Daintees
Live at Keele University December 1985.
Everyone is life-threateningly drunk and the between-song Geordie banter is hilairious. There's a kind of stumbling brilliance to it.
Sorry
I realise that the great Mart is from Durham and therefore not actually a Geordie.
Martin Stephenson
every time I have seen him he has been stumbling and brilliant. Ace man - dont give a shit about much.
The La's
Kitchen Tape is fucking great.
Kraftwerk
Any tips on how to download K4?
Well
http://fm-shades.blogspot.com/2007/01/kraftwerk-k4-kraftwerk-meets-neu.h...
oh and there is some nice stuff here
http://theultimatebootlegexperience2.blogspot.com/search/label/Kraftwerk
les rallizes denudes
A Japanese band who have refused to release records since 1968, and so only exist on fan-based bootlegs such as 'Blind Baby Has it's Mother's Eyes" and "Heavier Than a Death in the Family". Much-liked by Julian Cope.
A personal favourite
of mine. They're a great band. The recent 4 disc Great White Wonder is a thing of feedback-drenched beauty.
If anyone has a spare vinyl copy of...
...the Mahavishnu Orchestra's 'Bundled Sunspray Demise' boot from the 70s, I'd be a willing customer.
Likewise anyone got a CD ocopy f the Roxy Music BBC sessions? I'm sure I could find something interesting to exchange.
purely in the line of important musicological research, obviously...
I happened to be...
... on one of the more well known bootleg sites recently and was interested to see a 16 CD compilation of Van Der Graaf Generator and Pete Hammill's oeuvre. I wonder how many takers there have been for this masterpiece?
Perhaps not releasing this was what really killed off Charisma Records.
Tree with Roots
This has one of Dylan's all-time great unreleased tracks in 'I'm not there'. I enjoy the drunken feel of the recordings and the jokey atmosphere. Another great drunken boot that should have been included is the original 'Tonight's the Night' - it's even more harrowing and disturbing than the official version.
I agree that 'Blood on the Tapes' and Neil's 'Bottom Line '74' should have been on the list.
Thanks Dogface - got K4 now - much appreciated!