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Tinned Peaches and Condensed Milk. Bloody Luxury in my day!
Posted by Uncle Wheaty on 14 November 2011 - 8:55pm.
I have just been reading the Bruce Forsyth thread and one of the entries mentions 1970s food.
My Granny and Granddad would bring out tinned peaches and condensed milk after the long Sunday afternoons spent watching TV (Golden Shot, World at War etc) in the mid 1970s.
These were the days when a salad was soggy lettuce, sliced tomatoes and cucumber, sliced boiled eggs (they even had a contraption to do it for them) and sliced radishes.
Here is the egg slicer:
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All served up with Heinz Salad Cream.
Happy days (if not from a culinary viewpoint).
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Saturday evening in front of the telly
meant Smedley tinned sausage rolls. The very concept is the essence of 70s.
Edit: and here's the proof, though I can't claim to remember the ad
Canned Sausage Rolls
Wow.
They certainly didn't feature in my 1970s Norfolk childhood.
Did they make canned Cornish Pasties as well?
Jeez...
It was like the bloody Stone Age.
Canned sausage rolls??
That's truly horrific. I don't remember those, but Findus crispy pancakes would have been designed by a similar committee of people with no taste buds.
I'm not showing that to Michel ...
Actually, I feel that a Brit watching Masterchef in 1975 would have seen it as science fiction of the most far-fetched kind ...
The boat was occasionally pushed out round our place and
We had tinned fruit salad. The cherries were a particular delight from memory.
Angel Delight...
and Findus crispy pancakes.
Sausage rolls in a tin?
You're having a laff!!
I remember a typical sophisticated night out at the local Berni Inn - prawn cocktail to start - 2 miniature prawns if you were lucky, Well done rump steak - 6oz of gristle, 2 oz of meat. Side order of onion rings. Pudding was Black Forest gateaux - if you were lucky it had defrosted by the time it reached the table. Accompanying drink was Blue Nun or Yugoslavian Riesling. Lovely.
Did you ever patronise
the Amatola Hotel in Aberdeen in the 1970s? The meal you mention, inc Blue Nun, was the exact three courses for an eating-out treat except time may have rose-tinted the memory of the steak (well done, like dad's) and the black forest gateau (scrumptious) ... I can't even remember if people smoked at the table...
Smoked at the table?
You betcha - and we smoked in between courses. Looking back we probably needed to in order to hide the taste.
Salad cream...
..my Mum, ever watchful of her figure in those days, would opt for 'Waistline' salad cream - the greyer end of the Massive may recall the tv ad where an animated bottle of this tasteless gloop was seen to thin out a bit and emit a cutesy 'ooh' sound. See also Slimcea Bread - like bread but with all the flavour and texture of 3mm shavings of polystyrene. And then there were 'Ayds' - a kind of slimming aid in the form of a chocolate. So dense was the material these things were made from that you were left feeling stuffed to the gills after just one, (they must have occupied their own special area on the Periodic Table). Pity the unsuspecting child who nicked several of these from his Gran's supply and, having wolfed them all down in seconds, was unable to eat again for three days, (still one of my Mum's favourite anecdotes).
I'd forgotten about Ayds
That's a brand name gone wrong. Imagine the scene in the board room when that news broke
Ayds
70s sophistication and elegance
When Babs and Ken or Joyce and Archie or whoever came for nibbles and drinks my folks would dish up what was thought to be classy fare for the time: vol-au-vents (ready made frozen cases) filled with chunky chicken (in white sauce) from a tin. God I loved that chicken concoction. I could eat it straight from the tin. Then there was egg mayonnnaise - piped back into the hard boiled white. I'd do the washing up and then watch TV in my room (wheeled in from the lounge) such as Saturday night horror double bill (on over the summer) - actually that may have been the 80s, it's all blurring into one heady mix of recollection. Good memories anyway.
70s
My grandmother would grate chocolate over orange segments and sprinkle sugar over a sliced apple. Luxury I tell you. Luxury.
This was a small valleys town so we weren't exactly spoiled for choice when it came to grub but sometime in the very early 70s a French family moved next door to us and all hell was unleashed in the culinary department. Mussels, pastries, beautifully cooked meats, stews and sauces......
Double yum.
80's
I remember having tinned peaches and condensed milk bloody lovely at my Grandma's. When we really pushed the boat we had rich tea biscuits broken up in it. Cue Homer
Saturday tea time
Banana sandwiches, swiss roll, a Blue Riband biscuit and a bag of Smokey Bacon Tudor crisps.
This is why I am a coiled spring of latent athletic prowess.
Occasionally Sandwich Spread would rear its slimy multi-coloured and unwelcome head. It looked and tasted like it had just fallen out of someones nose.
Ooh, I don't know...
Even Sandwich Spread was a tasty treat compared with its ultra-insipid cousin, Cucumber Spread:
*inserts copy of Munch's 'The Scream' here*
Sandwich Spread
Lovely - its in my sarnies for tomorrow
Its basically salad - so therefore counts as at least 1 (if not all 5) of your 5 a day (thats what I believe anyway)
I hope you enjoy your lunch, Rigid
But to me it will always be reflux in a jar.
Oh yes -
it was known as Salad Snot when we were kids.
And Toast Toppers. God that was vile stuff.
Reminds me of the story of Barry Humphries
Barry Humphries would empty a Russian salad into a sick bag on an aircraft, feign vomiting, then eat the salad from the bag.
“If an air hostess sees you,” he says, “it can produce what I call a Chain Chunder. Five minutes later the pilot is throwing up.”
Corned Beef hash
This was mashed potato infused with corned beef. A real treat. Unfortunately liver would also be a feature alongside a serving of cabbage that was boiled-to-transparency.
We had a large potato peeler bowl thing that I haven't seen since the 1970s. You poured in a large amount of washed potatoes and then fastened the lid. The lid had a handle on it that, once you turned the handle, spun the potatoes around and exposed them to revolving blades on the bottom. This "peeled" a few pounds of potatoes all at once. Genius! The drawback was that it took ages, it was quite cumbersome and the potatoes ended up being half-peeled, meaning you had to attend to each one manually.
Condensed milk?
Evap, surely?
The height of sophistication chez Yorkio in those days was a tin of Heinz cook in sauce. The curry one was first choice although the coq au vin ran it a close second. Meat was only ever chicken.
Another favourite from the house of Heinz was Toast Toppers, which I just googled a moment ago and was genuinely amazed to discover is still on sale.
Evap
My dad use to make this:
One packet of Chivers jelly cubes (flavour of choice, made according to instructions).
One tin of evaporated milk. Whisk contents, until foamy.
Tip evap into still-warm jelly. Whisk some more, 'til well foamy.
Allow to cool a bit, put into fridge.
When set, serve with "cloddy" double cream.
Lush. Gert lush.
That was called
Fluffy jelly in our house.
We called it
Fluff.
My mum
tought us kids to butter white bread and dip it in sugar.
That is something I haven't eaten since the 70's!
She also tought us to lick plain crackers and then put salt on them.
I should point out that if you licked it, you ate it...still, not very appetizing.
My grandad...
...was a wizard at slicing bread. He'd butter the loaf first, then slice it incredibly thinly. I've never tasted such good bread before or since.
Then he'd put sugar on it, fold it over and give it to us with a glass of milk. And then he'd wink and his face would split in a grin that I can still picture as if he were in front of me right now.
God, I miss my grandparents.
Ace.
Lots of roffles in this thread.
Findus Crispy Pancakes were amazing. Jelly with evap on it. Brown & Polson blancmange. You never see blancmange any more. I loved it.
Oh yeah, and let's not forget a halved white cabbage covered in foil with cheese and pineapple on cocktail sticks stuck in it. That is AN AMAZING SNACK. IT JUST IS.
A lot of my childhood culinary memories are Welsh. My grandma was a fantastic cook, and trips to Llanelli meant cawl pys, minced beef pie with the shortest, crumbliest pastry, bara brith, bread pudding and teisen lap. Total bliss, and the beginnings of my obsession with great British food.
Hmmmmmm Tinned Peaches. Still love 'em.
Bananas and evap, was the dessert in our house, mostly all this stuff seemed to be post-war rationing food, lovely though. When I left home I experienced cooking a treacle steam pudding for the first time with it exploding as while watching Star Trek the pan boiled dry.
We used
to have Skol lager for dinner occasionally. I think my mum may have suggested in all innocence that she quite fancied try 'English beer' and can imagine dad persuading her that Skol was best because a) it had absolutely minimal alcohol content and b) it was cheap. Our treats were mousses (with the strawberry syrup at the bottom) and creme caramel. Also offal, calves brains and sweatbreads - delicious.
Pomagne
Remember that?
When my father used to go and pick up this parents and bring them back to us for lunch he would always have bought a bottle of Pomagne to have with lunch.
In the 1970s there as clearly nothing like an apple based, low alcohol champagne substitute to complete a meal!
Certainly do
And indeed Shloer,which seems to be still with us http://www.shloer.com/
Hereford-The English Rheims ...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Pomagne_print_adverti...
Ooh, the egg slicer
My nan had one, I used to strum the wires cos they made a lovely plinky noise when you did it.
Don't get me started on the fun you could have with the salad spinner - brilliant!
Baffled Swede
Did the entire British Isles throw out their egg slicers in 1980 ?
In Sweden no home is complete without one but the way you and the OP talk about it you seem to look at it as a museum piece.
Do the British not eat sliced eggs ?
Well...
Not exactly. I'm 33, so would have been "strumming the slicer" well into the 80s. Haven't seen one used in anger for some time, but surely they haven't been completely discontinued, like those tiny slicers used to shred runner beans. I think my folks still use one of those.
Egg Slicers
I had something of a flashback to my own childhood when I spotted one in a cookshop a few weeks back. I had to buy it and neatly sliced egg has featured in every sandwich since.The novelty
has worn off for the GLW.
The thing is, Locust...
...that 70s British food was disgusting. Whatever the rose-tinted people around here say!
The only item worth remembering is butterscotch flavoured Instant Whip.
It's only recently, with the proliferation of Ikea across the British Isles, that our eues have been opened to the bliss that is Swedish meatballs and almondy pies. And cheap furniture, of course.
Baffled swede?
Is that the same as mashed turnip?
Birds trifle
Ice Magic.
Sauce that went all crispy when you poured it on ice-cream. A treat when at granny's.
Party Sevens. Great for playing drums on the morning after the parents had thrown a party. Not great when the Old Man had one of his Special Headaches.
The M&S versions of Tunnock's Teacakes. And their toffees which came wrapped in blue paper.
Oooh
the mint one........
Ice Magic!
Surely some kind of hazardous industrial by-product. But so very delicious.
Anyone fancy
a curry?
Or perhaps a Chinese?
You know what you need to add to make that curry super authentic? Raisins.
They can't be real meals
It doesn't say "Serving suggestion" on the box.
Beef
I have a beef with Vesta. I thought the curry was horrible and, not unreasonably, thought that was what curry tasted like and avoided indian restaurants and takeaways for years. I only relented when I was drunk and in a large group and realised what I'd been missing.
Still available
I always keep a packet or two of the chow mein in my cupboard for the times when I really can't be bothered to cook, and fancy a bit of nostalgia. There is nothing on earth to beat the crispy noodles - I wish they sold them separately, as I would put them on everything.
Risotto
I was eating Vesta Risotto well into this century. 'Real' risotto was a bit of a blow when I first tasted it. You can't beat a Vesta if you're in the mood.
Vesta also had a creamy chicken dish but the name escapes me.
Chicken supreme ....
... although the 'supreme' was pushing the Trade Descriptions Act to the limit.
Monday evenings in the early 70s ...
... often meant a Vesta curry ... with slices of corned beef .... with chips.
I've just realised why I was overweight until I was fifteen.
Vesta Curries
are still available from Quality Save in Chorlton.
Toast and dripping
was a Sunday teatime treat. Leftover beef dripping smothered on toast and a hot mug of Bournvita and then off to bed.
Cold winter nights were toast cooked on the electric fire - the bread was skewered on a fork which was balanced between the bars of the fire. It was too bloody cold to stand on cold lino in a kitchen without central heating!!
Tinned peaches
A perk of working as a fire officer in London was that my dad would often come home with a few cans after a 'shout' in the docklands... problem was they never had labels so a can of peaches could just as likely be mince or beans.
Mad Salads
The height of sophistication for my Mum was sticking veg in jellies and serving with the usual lettuce,tomato, sliced egg combo.Lime jelly with walnuts and diced celery,orange jelly with grated carrot were regular favourites.
Tasty............
Sunday night treat
Left-over mash from Sunday lunch, fried until browned, spread on cheap white sliced bread and covered in tomato ketchup.
Nearly as good as the fish fingers and baked beans for Saturday tea-time after the footy.
My Nan Was Great......
......she'd run out of lemonade one time so gave me a glass of water and put six teaspoonfuls of Andrews Liver Salts in as it "would be the same".......didn't stop shitting for a week.
Oh then there was the eau de toilette.........you can guess where that ended up......smelt nice though
I did a proper
lol at that. Have an up on me...
And then there was our little dog Patch........
........if he wasn't shagging the cushions with his lipstick out whilst we had guests he was toiletting in the most inappropriate places...my issue #1 of Soccer Monthly with Kenny Dalglish on the front scoring for Scotland against Holland was defecated upon (goes for 19 quid now) and the Ferguson Videostar (Toploader)packed up after a cocked leg shower. My, how false we were when the repair man came round and took it apart to reveal a sludge like residue inside. " Has anybody spilled a cup of coffee or tea on it ?" he asked with sincerity. "No, don't think so" we replied as the sweat rolled down our foreheads. Forgive us Father.
Sodastream, anyone?
You can still get them now. Still just as horrible as well, I'll wager.
Sodastream? Used to export them
by the Container load every couple of weeks to those lovely Canadians as recently as the mid nineties. God knows what they were doing with them - I reckon there is one for each Canadian in the country.
Arctic Roll
A 70s pudding mainstay. Following on from Birds Eye beefburgers and crinkle cut chips.
If we had been good, the G Plan trolley would be wheeled out
for Saturday tea in front of the telly. This was the model (albeit without the 'disco' stars). Mum and Dad were very proud of their G Plan furniture.
Comestibles might have included fish paste sandwiches and swiss roll in custard
World leaders
I left the UK years ago and I'm beginning to remember why. It's a wonder any of us are still alive after a diet like that. Glad to see good old Britain still leads the world in producing indigestible processed crap.
leads the world in producing indigestible processed crap
...yes, we can certainly rely on Simon Cowell to keep that tradition flying high, Runsto...
Saturday tea during the winter
used to involve bringing through a table from the kitchen into the lounge and placing it in front of the Raeburn fire before settling down to some lightly fried soft roes dribbled with lemon juice. Absolutely scrumptious. This tradition seemed to die out around the time of the Cod War with Iceland in the early 70's and when I latterly discovered it was the the dear old fish's male reproductive bits, the spell was broken.
Curiosity is encouraging me to track some down for old-times sake. Maybe.
Peaches and condensed milk were reserved for Sunday lunch dessert and with bread and dripping (heart attack on a plate) for Sunday tea the weekend was complete.
Soft roes. Still delicious.
I once explained to a mate that it's the roes of male fish. He looked at me.
"So it doesnt bother you that you're eating fried fish-spunk, then?"
He has a way with words does Gazbo.
Cod roes ?
The kind that came in a tin that you opened in both end to push out the contents ? Or is that the hard variety ?
They were the scourge of my childhood...this was a favourite of my mothers (easy to cook) and I detested the taste of it.
These came fresh from the local fish monger
Each was probably the size of a grape, possibly slightly larger, grey/beige in colour and virtually dissolved in the mouth. Also known as Milt apparently.
It must have been hard roes then
Tiny yellow pearls pressed together in a tin, pushed out of it and sliced and I think it was then lightly fried (a bit unsure about that) and served with lots of lemon juice squeezed on top of it with potatoes on the side.
I seem to remember parsley as well, but I've spent most of my life trying to suppress these memories so I could be getting things mixed up.
I didn't like the taste of it and I really didn't like the texture of it, I think that was the worst part actually.
Roes, both hard and soft..
Soft roe is fish spunk. Hard roe is fish eggs. Most hard roe is from cod, most soft roe from herring. A decent-sized cod roe weighs up to a kilo.
A fresh cod roe. This is poached, then sliced and fried.
I'm not that keen.
This is herring soft roe.
Can be poached or fried. Delicious on toast, even if you have to ignore what it is and what it looks like.
Both are very low in fat, very high in protein and highly nutricious.
Smoked cod hard roe is used almost exclusively for making taramasalata. It is unbelievably salty. And sodding expensive.
To ignore what it is and what it looks like
requires superhuman powers of the suspension of disbelief!
Coincidentally...
...I just ordered some smoked cod roe for taramasalata purposes from the lovely Lancaster Smokehouse at Glasson Dock. When we move there, Jesus, that place is going to make a lot of money out of me.
I've just checked their website.
£35 a fucking kilo?? Are they taking the piss???
I'll get you some from our fishmarket the next time I see any.
EDIT: Just been round and asked them. There's not much about at the moment and it would be expensive. The Man is getting a price for me because he says they can always order it in.
Verrrrrry pricey, yes.
But it's the FPO's birthday on Sunday so I'm preparing a range of culinary delights. She's a Lancaster girl so I thought a few bits from there might be nice.
My in-laws
still basically eat like this. Uncle W's initial salad description was missing beetroot and grated carrot surely?
EDITED - why the hell did beetroot auto-correct to 'beefwood'? Everyone knows you can only have beefwood with eggmeat...
You are correct
Beetroot and grated carrot did make the occasional appearance.
The first time I ate beetroot and had a pee afterwards I was very scared!
Salad = Lettuce, Tomato and Cuke.
What else is needed in a salad to accompany a nice bit of steak 'n' chips?
Salad? With steak and chips?
With steak and chips you have peas, and peas only. Possibly a grilled mushroom if you're feeling decadent. If garnish is needed, then a bit of tired parsley will suffice.
Next you'll be suggesting putting ridiculous stuff like oil and vinegar on your salad instead of salad cream.
Heh, my old man used to insist on only peas
with his steak 'n' chips. They had to be marrowfat peas as well.
Quite right Lenny
what are we, French?
May I also add as acceptable - Lea & Perrins...