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Time for the Vinyl to Go?

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Last week it was the videos and the cassettes, now I'm looking at the 500 albums and wondering whether I really need them all now.

I have a Linn LP12 so they still sound brilliant - well the ones that don't spit or crackle - so it's not a quality issue. There are hundreds that I didn't replace on cd, but with Spotify I'm more likely to listen to stuff on the PC.

So has anyone else taken the plunge lately? I'm thinking that I might keep a few dozen must haves on the shelves and put the rest in the loft. How did you handle it and what informed your decision?

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You don't fancy giving away...

the Linn LP12 do you?!

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Mr Sparks | 30 May 2009 - 11:07pm

I kept them, and I'm really glad I did

I pretty much stopped buying vinyl around 1988 and started on CDs instead. There are a good bunch of albums that I gave away to good homes when I bought the CD - including What's Going On, Exile On Main St, a Howlin' Wolf collection ... and for years I listened to CDs much much more.

Then the iPod meant that pretty much everything I listened to was on headphones or on portable speakers.

I lent my record deck to my father-in-law when his deck packed in, and went 5 years without one : but I kept the vinyl, safely stored away, partly because I was too busy working to organise disposing of it at a sensible price, and partly for sentimental reasons. Then I got the house decoration moved on and cleared out space for a "study", which meant all my records and CDs and books could sit together, and I had an excuse to buy a deck.

I was knocked out by how good the £120 Pro-Ject deck I bought 2 years ago is, and firmly believe that nothing sounds as good as vinyl : even my crackly old Lonewolves singles. CDs and MP3s are magic because you can carry your music everywhere, but they lack the extra pixie dust that you get from vinyl. Not just because of the sentiment I have for sonic artefacts from when I was 12, or 15, but because it does sound better.

If you're going to split them, do what John Walters did - sell everything except "Trout Mask Replica". Otherwise keep the lot and treasure them!

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el hombre malo | 30 May 2009 - 11:34pm

I would never part with my

I would never part with my Lp's, I have an LP12 also and have rather emotional connection with it. Why not buy one of those vacuum record cleaners, they will get rid of the crackle and make a big difference to your enjoyment. I am toying with changing my TT as part of a silent protest towards the money grabbing company that is Linn though.

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woodface | 1 June 2009 - 7:58pm

noted, thanks

some of the crackle is from poor handling over the years - I would not have passed a breathalyser test to handle them!

I will look into that as a way to clean them up. I don't really mind the crackle - adds character. But as I travel a lot (for work) I don't spend many evenings in the same country as my records so that cleanup will be another gradual project.

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el hombre malo | 1 June 2009 - 10:45pm

Hardly anyone on this site is going to say "get rid"

This has come up before, sometimes in the form of "I sold/gave away all my vinyl and regretted it ever since" but there's a pretty much uniform view that vinyl, for all its pops and crackles, has an indefinable something that is worth hanging onto over the convenience of CD/MP3. And I entirely agree with that view; ok i am listening to an ipod right now as it is very convenient and vinyl involves a bit more maintenance, but it just sounds better. So if you actually like what's on your vinyl and its not 500 of the standard charity shop Phil Collins, Wham, Daniel O'Donnell lps, make some room and keep it. A lifetime of regret will only follow otherwise. Your lps will always be there for you - who knows if Spotify will.

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drizzle | 30 May 2009 - 11:47pm

Keep them.

Sell off the dreck (every collection has that) but keep anything and everything you have a fondness for, be it the label design or sleeve notes. You'll only regret it in later life.
My t/t was banished to the attic about 10 years ago but the ellpees sit proudly on my shelf. When friends, who did make the mistake of getting rid, come over they spend many an hour going through my 'archive', for I consider it an archive.

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James Blast | 30 May 2009 - 11:52pm

Don't sell them

As a fellow LP12 owner don't. Spend a night with your albums, your Sondek and a couple of bottles of wine. Enjoy the clicks and scratches, they're memories.
Spend a few hundred and get the LP12 serviced like I did and sit back and revel in the sound.

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Gordon Kerr | 31 May 2009 - 12:12am

Keep them.

I sold all my vinyl years ago and am now in the process of buying them all back one by one.

Why am I doing this?
Call it nostalgia, call it a midlife crisis...who knows.
Keep them.

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Blue Sky | 31 May 2009 - 12:33pm

Don't do it man!

You'll regret it.

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Pete | 31 May 2009 - 2:57pm

The weird thing

is that the majority of my vinyl went as a result of circs beyond my control - to wit - the Great Cellar Flood of '06. I had hung on to them for largely sentimental reasons as I didn't have a deck set up to play them on. Even more weirdly, I wasn't emotionally as distraught as I expected I would be - and some good ones, rare ones, went in the Flood too.

The Light did great work on some of the less damaged items - drying out covers in a low oven or with her hairdryer. This was a touching effort and somewhat unexpected given it was because of her naggi...sorry, well reasoned argument, that they'd been consigned to the cellar in the first place.

Instead of the previous "well, it's just a bunch of old stuff and you never play them anyway" - it became, "no it's important to you, we should save as many as we can"

Farr less predictable than acts of nature, the workings of a woman's mind

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Sheev | 31 May 2009 - 5:15pm

Another LP12 Owner

Says keep them. Do you really need the space? You'll get next to nothing for second-hand run-of-the-mill records anyway.

BTW a basic LP12 service won't cost much over £100, unless you need new parts.

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Neil Jung | 31 May 2009 - 5:20pm

Another vote for keeping them

Mine currently reside in the spare room, the deck (an ADC 1700) is still with the rest of the stereo and in time I plan a cull of the rubbish that I really don't love, but the rest is staying, no question.

Cassettes though, that's a whole 'nother ballgame and one on which Mr Em and I have a difference of opinion. To me they're special, some have CD duplicates but some are completely irreplaceable, however, to him they are 3 boxes we don't need!

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Em | 31 May 2009 - 6:19pm

Chuck em

Yep, know all the arguments but
1. I was downsizing
2. They were all scratched to hell
3. You can't take it with you, things aren't important

I can still listen to them all, music isn't contained by a piece of vinyl

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Jayhawk | 31 May 2009 - 11:17pm

I'm with the vast majority.

I'd never sell them.

I don't play them that much now and have relaced most of what I really want with cd.

But each is like a photograph.

You remember where you bought it and all the associated times around it.

I've collected vinyl since I was 10, I couldn't throw it away now.

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anythingcanhappen | 1 June 2009 - 12:11am

No question at all

Having sold my extensive collection of Punk vinyl in 1979 / 1980 in order to fund the growing Rock and NWOBHM collection (thanks to the late great Beano's in Croydon) I determined in around 1981 that it had been a mistake, and that I would never sell another vinyl LP or 12" single. Like many others, I stopped buying vinyl in around 1989, but have lovingly listened to many of them since, have emigrated to Australia with them, and they still reside on shelves in my study next to the old DUAL record deck.

iTunes does allow the purchase of the best of the best for generally reasonable prices which has rekindled my excitement at some great albums.

The next challenge is to buy one of the LP Converters and convert the best to digital files for storage and iPod use!

Perhaps the Word can run a feature on the current best crop of such USB Turntables and conversion software??

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Coatsey | 1 June 2009 - 4:18am

CD recorder

Just buy a hi-fi CD recorder, perhaps a second-hand one from Ebay, and a pack of re-writable discs. You can use your existing deck and the sound quality will probably be better - I'm doing this to upload my vinyl to the ipod, and it works well.

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Reginald Mole-H... | 1 June 2009 - 8:32am

Cutting

Marantz did a particularly highly rated one, (CDR something) nearly bought one of these while I had my Linn.

As to the converters to MP3 etc, the iVinyl by Terratec had a v good review a couple of years ago in (I think) Hi Fi Choice. Attraction to them was ability to make 24bit/96Khz files, which would however need to be kept on DVD or a hard disk.

Or you could just look on a torrent, as others point out quite regularly ;-). A vinyl loving friend of mine eventually decided his time was better spent that way ...

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SpaceBoy | 1 June 2009 - 4:30pm

But

Why make the pro-keeping argument for all the various excellent reasons and then start talking about converting them to mp3? Surely this is admitting defeat!!

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Jayhawk | 1 June 2009 - 7:14pm

No, as a mate of mine nearly put it

"even when folded up I find LPs don't fit well in the iPod" ...
...I can quite understand people wanting to enjoy LPs when they can and MP3s/Lossless etc when travelling. If my SO would put up with a turntable in her mega AV system I'd do the same I reckon, as it is the vinyl is more of an occasional fix for me (I really think a wall shelf will be necessary in order to fit a turntable in my own flat, and I just haven't got round to it).

Fascinated to see even Naim starting to get with the programme ...
http://www.badaweb.co.uk/billyvee/news53.html

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SpaceBoy | 2 June 2009 - 12:43pm

I tried to sell mine

Mainly for space, having USBed 'em, but I was refused permission, bless her, as she knows what they mean to me. Doesn't mean I'll ever play them again, but I know where they are if I do. More detritus for my executors, as I can't be sure they will either know what to do with the brimful plastic crate of back-ups- all the vinyl rips, all the download copies, all the kept songs from coverdiscs, all the mp3 blog "assimilation purposes" songs........

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Retropath2 | 1 June 2009 - 8:43am

Had an LP12 and sold it

when I moved from a larger house to a small gallery flat (not the sad story it must sound like). Got £400 trade-in on old hi-fi from Sevenoaks (this was a few years ago) towards one of these,
http://www.arcam.co.uk/products,solo,Music-Systems,SoloMusic.htm
most of the value was in the Sondek.

Kept my excellent Mission 770s and still haven't found speakers I'd prefer. Have an engagingly mid-80s look ...

At the same gave my classical vinyl to (edit: Amnesty, I now realise) but not my pop/rock/jazz (we are talking ~100 lps here, not the RSJ-defying collections many of the Massive clearly have). Neither my partner (has her own larger house and an Arcam/B&W/Monitor Audio/Pioneer AV system) or I have actually installed a turntable on our main systems since, but as I have a few LPs that aren't available on CD we have her old Sansui SR 222 on an amp with a pair of headphones in a room upstairs at hers. And I do pop in occasionally for a quick vinyl fix.

But the Systemdek that my dad gave me a while ago, his hearing having sadly deteriorated, still languishes in her loft-awaiting a tuneup/repair. And I couldn't tell you why I haven't got round to installing it in my flat yet, except to say that what I miss isn't the Sondek, it's i) the sound of its predecessor, a Rega Planar 2 rather like this one:
http://www.rega.co.uk/html/p2.htm
and an A60 amp in a student room in Brighton, and ii) the focus to dwell on the sound of, e.g. Laurie Anderson's "Mister Heartbreak" in the way I did then.

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SpaceBoy | 1 June 2009 - 3:04pm

I recently put a load of albums in a car boot sale

And didn't sell a single one. CDs go like hotcakes, but not vinyl. It's cleary not what the collectors are after.

I've got everything on CD and everyhing on download, bar a few one-off singles that don't seem to be available anywhere. I have no casettes whatsoever, no videos either.

I had a massive clearout and don't regret it at all. Of course, I've kept everything dear to me, like my 2000 singles.

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Five-Centres | 1 June 2009 - 2:51pm

Vinyl at Car boots........

Our local Car Boot Fair (Sunday mornings, Boreham, just off the A12) seems to attract LP buyers in their multitudes. Most of the good stuff is snapped up by other dealers early on, but still a good way to dispose of your less valuable stuff. Better prices than chucking them on eBay or Discogs........

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Six Dog | 1 June 2009 - 3:03pm

Tears of my Tracks

Don't think Billy Bragg's take on the subject has been mentioned on the site:

I’m down but I’m not out, but Lord, I’m hurting
I’m down but I’m not out but I feel blue.

I sold all my vinyl yesterday
At a boot sale out on the highway
And now my room is full of fresh air.

I’m down but I’m not out, but Lord, I’m hurting

I’m down but I’m not out but I feel blue.

Somebody owns all my albums now
They probably don’t even wonder how
My name got written on the sleeves.

So I’m down but I’m not out, but Lord, I’m hurting
I’m down but I’m not out but I feel blue.

I opened the window, I let in the sun
My record collection has ended
For someone else it's just begun.

So I’m down but I’m not out, but Lord, I’m hurting
I’m down but I’m not out but I feel blue.

see http://pertinentverge.blogspot.com/2006/03/tears-of-my-tracks.html

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SpaceBoy | 2 June 2009 - 12:59pm
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