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Thomas Dolby @ Union Chapel
Did any other members of the Massive go to the Union Chapel to see Thomas Dolby & Friends?
An interesting night out I thought and a subtle twist on the 'lets perform a classic album in its entirety' performance. Essentially it was Thomas Dolby's 'The Flat Earth' but part of the show was TD and band + friends rehearsing/working through songs in the first half with a short performance in the second half.
There was no formal group rehearsal before the evening although individuals could swot beforehand.
Very interesting to see as a non-musican how songs are put together for a group performance.
A few guests, including Trevor Horn, Bruce Woolley, Martin McAloon & Wendy Smith made it a top night out.
p.s. first time at the Union Chapel - excellent venue
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Unfortunately not.
Did Matthew Seligman play bass?
Yes, I was there...
...along with D Green of this parish.
Matthew Seligman was there and was wearing a bass, but he was the weak link, I'm afraid, I suspect due to over-refreshment as he was staggering about a bit.
A much better show of bass duties was made by the young man from The Pirate Twins, a Thomas Dolby tribute act, whom Dolby had seen play the night before and invited to join him on stage. He made a superb fist of Hyperactive.
Martin Mcaloon displayed a bit of prickliness upon being questioned by Dolby about a Sprout reunion. 'It's ancient history', he said, through gritted teeth. He also said that Paddy may have new music out some time, 'but probably not soon'. Wendy Smith, it should be said, looked and sounded sublime.
What a joy to see Trevor Horn play bass on Airwaves and Bruce Woolley give the finest Theremin solo I've seen all week. Vocalist Adele Bertei appears not to have lost any of her astonishing range.
I seem to remember a massiviste complaining recently about not going to gigs anymore, 'Because there's nothing different to see'. Ahem.
Weak link? Pah!
Matthew is a consummate bass player and was sober and booze-free for the evening! His playing is one of skill and subtlety which fits perfectly with the music. God, it's like expecting the drummer of Goldfrapp to do a 30-minute drum solo just for the purpose of personal ego. The Pirate mentioned did indeed show great skills in a more "flash-looking" style - but that was correct for the piece being played at the time. Next you'll be dissing TH as he wasn't slapping either !
He was bit 'off'
to be honest.
to be honest
this is fascinating
I'm used to getting kind of emotional alerts when I'm crap
but I so didn't this time
nor was I under the influence of anything more than euphoria
I got to get to the bottom of this....what was it - timing, notes, general demeanour, what you on about?
HI Matthew
Thanks for taking the trouble to respond - I reported as I saw on the evening and stick by what I said, though I've no desire to rub anyone's nose in it. The task appeared to be a complex and nerve-wracking business for all of the players and you're each to be congratulated on the achievement.
By no means was your playing a distraction or the ruination of the gig - far from it - but, to mine eyes and ears at any rate, you maybe appeared to be a little less comfortable than others involved.
I genuinely did think you were 'staggering about a bit' towards the end, but it appears you're probably as bad a dancer as me and I apologise for the libatory slight on your character.
Anyway, don't sweat it - it was a magical gig and I would love to see you play again some time. Hope you didn't think I was being destructive. If I ever have any human rights issues, you'll remain my go-to guy.
Hi
I think that the 'review' I posted below was pretty damn good positive feedback. The gig was great, in that it was stimulating and challenging - seat of the pants and all that. which was surely the point.
It was inevitable that it wouldnt 'flow' and I did feel the bass parts were playing catch up a little bit.
Having said that, you are clearly a very talented chap and I would love to be at any gig that the band play, rehearsed or not.
Of course, I have the 4 string skills of Jaco Pastorious so I have the right to pontificate.
fair comment
ah, ok guys, well...fair comment....
nice we could have a civilised chat about it :)....
I just wish the sound guy hadn't forgotten to record it, then we could split hairs on what exactly it was that seems to have gone wrong...I am just puzzled 'cos usually I am the first to know if it wasn't locking in and it felt like it was...
but thanks also for responding to my responding it takes all the edge off it being hurtful, and I am too sensitive about these things anyway....
maybe we will get more clues from whatever video sound makes it into general circulation :)?
Forgot...
The sound guy 'Forgot'?! Jaysus, what a pain. I guess there goes TD's idea of editing fan footage to proper sound? A guy sat right in front of us, four rows from the front, watched the whole show via the tiny screen on the back of his camera. Wonder if he actually enjoyed the show or whether the footage makes up for the fact that he didn't appear to pay an awful lot of attention to what was going on onstage? Funny old world...
I feel bad now that you feel bad, but there's no need for you to feel bad about the show, really there isn't Matthew. Maybe practise along to Joe Frasier or something and see me after class on Monday. Have a good weekend.
'Civilised...'
Is what we do around here.
You should stick around - Ive got a feeling you will come across many, many more big -ups.
And... as for being too sensitive - probably a good part of the reason why you are a top drawer musician.
I'm glad I asked - I think.
Well done Matthew for taking the time to reply. Sorry I wasn't there. I'll make the next one. Here's one of your finest moments I'm sure.
Loved it.
And the fact that there were quite a few 'What the?' faces around me only added to it.
Ok, at times it did seem like you had gatecrashed a private muso party, but Dolby had made it clear what was going to happen - meet on stage at the venue and do it on the fly after not performing together for 26 years.
That takes balls and requires the patience and indulgence of the punters, which, for the most part, was what he got.
Im not a devoted fan, only one album and that needed the dust blown off it a couple of days before but I found it fascinating. A slight anxiety inducing quality to it (can they pull it off?) added a nice visceral layer.
Dolby has of course patented the 'Rock Boffin' tip but, he has real keyboard...er...'chops', can properly sing and occasionally has a sublime, light touch to his songwriting.
Best moments - the utter shellshocked disbelief on the face of the bloke from the Dolby tribute band who had been asked the night before to turn up with his bass. He thunked and plucked his way dexterously
through 'Hyperactive' whilst clearly struggling with the internal dialogue "I cant believe this is happening to me!"
A bit like Bowie shouting out 'Is D.Green in the house? Strap a Fender Tele on and take Earl Slick's part on "Stay" will you?'
Near the end, Trevor Horn stroked the bass, Bruce Wooley 'addressed' the Theremin and, with just Dolby on piano and vocals, they produced a beautiful 'Airwaves'. The genuine static crackle that comes with creative alchemy fizzed through the place.
A while ago, someone posted on here (forgive me, cant remember who) that there was nothing new happening at gigs anymore, all now formulaic and dull.
I should have got you a ticket.
Apologies for the repetition
I started that post and then had to attend to my son, returned, posted and found that pocket had got there first.
Boring for the massive, Im sure.
So take yours down pocket - its poor.
No problem
I've got Healing on at 11.
Natch!
Laters man.
Was a good, good night and thanks for the ticket.
Would have loved to have gone
but work commitments scuppered that idea. Quite like a bit of Dolby, 'Golden Age..' and 'Flat Earth' are fine albums
For anyone that missed and can do it...
www.metropolis-group.co.uk/news.php?p=0&id=112
There's a Thomas Dolby tribute band?!!?!
It sounds absolutely fascinating, albeit indeed in a "What the?" kind of way, and also like the sort of thing a TV producer would briefly consider for Sky Arts or something on BBC3 and then discard on the grounds that no-one would be interested. I guess that (either) the shame or the gloriousness of it is that it really can't be repeated. Good work, Dolby!
I'm not even a fan of Thomas Dolby
but even I agree that it sounds like a great night.
Is that something that could catch on? See both the rehearsal and the actual gig? I know I would pay to see that for a few bands. I suppose it might destroy the magic a bit, but as long as the audience were up for it and in the right frame of mind I can't see how it could be anything other than fascinating.
Stephen, the more I reflect on it ...
A really, really good idea. I'm glad that you say, even as a non Dolby fan, you would have given it a go. Confirms the open mind(s) of the massive.
As I said, I'm not the biggest fan either, but had to give the bloke respect because he could have took the easy option of rehearsing a perfunctory set and doing the usual Carling sponsored venues to his solid fanbase.
Instead it was so bloody interesting to kind of peek in on how live material develops, what works and what doesnt. It might have been dry if it had been left at that but the worked up 'set' at the end was lovely. The venue helped - something like this has to be intimate.
Dolby kind of did a 'masterclass' as it was opening out - talking us through the history and whys and whats. It was certainly a risk because it could have been a real screw up but, I suppose being a billionaire
helps to ease the nerves a little.
Shame...
I would have loved to have gone (and the Union Chapel's walking distance from my house).
On another thread I saw Dolby's talents as a producer decried but I think he was the right person for the Sprouts. I also think that The Golden Age of Wireless is one of the great lost 80s LPs. Dolby encouraged people not to take him seriously because of the boffin gimmick but it's still a lovely listen.
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