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Things I learnt at school but have never needed since in the real world

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triganometry
poetry
long division
periodic table
algebra
multigym
calculus

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The width of a circle

We spent at least two terms learning how to measure the area of circles. Many's the time since I've stood in the middle of huge circular fields, logarithims in hand, waiting for someone to say "So how big is this thing, anyway?" But no.

I don't think I've made the Vulcan Hand Fanny since the Fourth Year, either.

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Captain Underpants | 25 February 2011 - 8:36am

Vulcan Hand Fanny

TMFTL, surely.

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milkybarnick | 25 February 2011 - 8:59am

Spelling too,

by the look of things.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 25 February 2011 - 8:53am

Or possibly

Greek.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 25 February 2011 - 9:09am

No wonder

I've never used it - they taught us a made up subject!!

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pompeygeorge | 25 February 2011 - 2:08pm

Flemings

Left Hand Rule.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 25 February 2011 - 8:58am

"If you lie on it

long enough, it'll feel like someone else is doing it" ?

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Captain Underpants | 25 February 2011 - 9:02am

Flemings

Right Hand Rule.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 25 February 2011 - 8:58am

See above

but for left handed people

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illuminatus | 25 February 2011 - 10:47pm

There is a gang in LA

That uses Fleming's left hand rule as a gang sign.Physics teachers should be careful in their rival's hood.

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Sour Crout | 25 February 2011 - 11:24pm

S

= ut + (1/2)at^2

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Vulpes Vulpes | 25 February 2011 - 9:02am

That's the one I was about to post as well

We didn't have helicopters and food packets in my day though:

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stimpy | 25 February 2011 - 12:39pm

Was it a UN School

where you did your O levels then?

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Vulpes Vulpes | 25 February 2011 - 1:01pm

Heh, no but it was the first s=ut+1/2at2-esque

exam paper I could find on the Interweb.

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stimpy | 25 February 2011 - 1:05pm

Imagine the end of term maths test in a U.N. school:

Question 1

A refugee can run at 15 kilometres an hour for 60 seconds before collapsing. Border posts are placed 1 kilometre apart. If the guards change over at 3 pm each afternoon, by what time must a refugee begin to cross the minefield in order to breach the razor wire before being intercepted and shot?

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Vulpes Vulpes | 25 February 2011 - 1:07pm

Question 2

You're looking to purchase a shiny white 4x4 to assist in your work with refugees - is it better to:

(a) Import a new, top-spec one from your home country which will have aircon, satnav, a lovely stereo, leather seats and will be too complex to repair in the field.

(b) Source an older vehicle locally which will be appropriate for the terrain and, being lower-tech, will be maintainable by the local metal-bashing mechanic.

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stimpy | 25 February 2011 - 1:16pm

v^2

= u^2 + 2as

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Vulpes Vulpes | 25 February 2011 - 9:03am

Surely not

v = u + at as well?

:)

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milkybarnick | 25 February 2011 - 9:10am

I have actually had occasion

to exercise that one, so it doesn't qualify.

:)

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Vulpes Vulpes | 25 February 2011 - 9:12am
Chris G | 25 February 2011 - 9:04am

There was an old man from Nantucket...

no, maybe not.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 25 February 2011 - 9:11am

Has anyone?

?

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pompeygeorge | 25 February 2011 - 2:09pm

I have

Poetry has been a great solace to me. I

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el hombre malo | 25 February 2011 - 8:15pm

your mileage may differ

We didn't have multigym at school, but apart from that I have used all of those. And regularly use the Vulcan hand gesture. Probably a give away that I became a scientist.

Now that I think back, school seems remarkably useful - including how to stand up to bullies and talk to girls.

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paulwright | 25 February 2011 - 9:11am

Hands on the mantelpiece, feet wide apart?

What are 'girls'?

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Vulpes Vulpes | 25 February 2011 - 9:14am

I don't actually need poetry

But it makes life a better place to hang around in.

http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/useful-poems-know-heart
for starters

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Sir Tainley Gno... | 25 February 2011 - 9:39am

I don't understand this thread.

George, is the implication that trigonometry, poetry, long division, the periodic table, algebra and calculus are a waste of time, or somehow without practical application?

Oh, and I used trigonometry this week, when working out the angle at which to cut new spindles for my stairs.

I actually can't think of anything I learned at school that I'm not glad I learned. Some of the facts, figures and dates we crammed in did stick, permanently. Most didn't. But in learning them, I learned how to think, which no amount of tutting about oxbow lakes can take away.

/sense of humour failure about education

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Bob | 25 February 2011 - 9:52am

I do understand this thread.

The OP has made a list of things *he* learned at school but has not needed since leaving. The fact that you may have found practical use of anything on his list is irrelevant.

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Spartacus Mills | 25 February 2011 - 11:08am

Maybe it's the OP's

fundamental and almost adolescent misunderstanding of the basis of good education. That somehow learning new ways of thinking isn't needed in later life (something that virtually all the items listed help us do). You may not use the specifics of maths everyday but learning about numbers and ways of using them empowers you to make decisions,to challenge the endless data we are given daily for instance.
This beside the point fact that many of the techniques listed make the internet/sat nav/ mobiles phones work so most likely he's "needed" them at least once while posting his comment.

Also there's assumption if you do believe that education is solely to provide practical skills for later life that his teachers should know at the age of 11 he'll never need to trigonometry or be out walking and encounter a oxbow lake etc.

One of the goals of good education should be to empower those involved having multiple ways to understand/explain the world be they poetry or calculus is one of the ways this can happen.

As for mulitgym if this playing on the wall bars wasn't this the best thing you did in games? I loved a game of "pirates" as a kid.

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Chris G | 25 February 2011 - 11:35am

Thanks for the lecture

I'll make a note never to start a humourous thread.

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Spartacus Mills | 25 February 2011 - 11:40am

Sorry if it was a lecture

just this line of reasoning gets a bit tiresome when it comes from my nephews etc. let alone grown ups. Didn't see it as that funny, maybe it was the inclusion of poetry that did for me once again sorry for being didactic.

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Chris G | 25 February 2011 - 11:47am

*consults dictionary*

Adds to OP list: The Alphabet.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 25 February 2011 - 1:21pm

Should I tell him...

That I'm the Governor of a secondary school and do the annual assessment of the head? (fact)

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pompeygeorge | 25 February 2011 - 2:15pm

Two tems?

We spent at least two terms learning how to measure the area of circles.

Blimey, how difficult is Πr²?

Also, if three pints of beer costs you £8.10, then working out the price of one pint is an algebraic operation, is it not?

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Brookster | 25 February 2011 - 9:57am

I also learned

hyperbole at school. Maybe you missed that day.

And beer and pie are two of my favourite subjects these days.

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Captain Underpants | 25 February 2011 - 10:03am

When we learnt about hyperbole

our teacher told us it wasn't an enormous stadium. That I've always remembered, but it's certainly not useful.

Just thought of this one too:

The verbs in French that use etre rather than avoir in the perfect tense can be remembered by the mnemonic DRAPERS VAN MMT. This was very useful at GCSE, but is less so now.

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milkybarnick | 25 February 2011 - 10:11am

That's because no one knows

what a draper is anymore.

Adds to OP list: Names of trades.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 25 February 2011 - 1:24pm

At my school....

Mr Draper was one of the French teachers. He didn't drive a van.

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JQW | 25 February 2011 - 2:35pm

If you don't know what a draper is

May I suggest my French teacher Peter Farrar's catchy and original mnemonic for the same thing: Dr R.A. Pavments, MD.

We also had one in German for the prepositions that could take either the accusative or the dative, depending on whether there was motion or not. Our German teacher made it into a little chant:

In, an, auf
Hinter, unter, über
Neben, zwischen, vor

I can honestly say it was useful on many occasions when I was living in Germany.

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Rosbif | 25 February 2011 - 1:42pm

Peter Farrar?

Were you at Eastbourne Grammar School?

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Inky Fingers | 25 February 2011 - 7:37pm

Not a million miles away

A well known boarding school just outside Horsham, Sussex, you might know the one I'm talking about but I'm not going to name it, long story...

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Rosbif | 25 February 2011 - 7:58pm

have you still

got the socks?

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Captain Underpants | 25 February 2011 - 8:25pm

Nah

They only used to get changed twice a week. They ran away by themselves.

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Rosbif | 25 February 2011 - 11:50pm

Good...

...school band, though. Last saw them at the 2009 Friends Provident Trophy final at Lord's.

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Inky Fingers | 26 February 2011 - 12:07am

I was there

I don't remember him though. But then I never paid much attention in French.

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Captain Underpants | 25 February 2011 - 8:23pm

My French teacher

Ted Smith, used RR PAVEMANTS MD as well.

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illuminatus | 25 February 2011 - 10:56pm

"if three pints of beer costs you £8.10"

you're drinking in the wrong pub.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 25 February 2011 - 1:25pm

£2.70 a pint?

I should be so bloody lucky.

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Bob | 25 February 2011 - 1:30pm

£2.20 for a decent pint of Wadworths,

and that's every night, not just when there's a Meat Raffle on. We've got Pig Racing next month to raise funds for the free nosh at the Royal Wedding bash. You need to get out to a proper village pub.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 25 February 2011 - 1:50pm

I miss 6X.

One of the best things about being a teenager in the West Country, that. And a grown up, too, I imagine.

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Bob | 25 February 2011 - 2:48pm

Home Economics

Mainly because all I learned there was making toasted cheese and explaining shops to aliens. Seriously. There was nothing about running a home taught.

Also classical studies, in which we were asked to draw pictures of naked greek gods.

God my school was shit.

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ganglesprocket | 25 February 2011 - 10:13am

"What we need here is a length of copper"

"I know - let's go to Zambia. They've got lots."

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Archie Valparaiso | 25 February 2011 - 10:12am

I went to to a 'real world' school in the 1980s

I learned real world skills such as how to use a VHS video recorder and how to program a Sinclair ZX-81 computer. I wished I learned a bit of poetry instead.

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mutikonka | 25 February 2011 - 10:39am

Map of the Hampshire basin

and the rivers that run therein. Geography: total waste of time.

What I don't know about oxbow lakes is nobody's business.

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Five-Centres | 25 February 2011 - 10:46am

Throwing the javelin

Throwing the discus, putting the shot.

Still, if the Spartans do attack one day, we'll be ready.

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Melville | 25 February 2011 - 11:03am

"Right, lads...

I've invented this thing called a cannon. It's hundreds of year ahead of its time. You see, you put these big heavy balls, called shots, into the cannon and light this....hey! Stop throwing the shots at the Spartans! That's not... oh, never mind. MInd the big horse, it's a gift."

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Captain Underpants | 25 February 2011 - 12:04pm

Rather more fun were

Catching the javelin, heading the shot.

I have not needed any sport knowledge that I may inadvertently have picked up at school. History has been useful for quizzes, but for nothing else.

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PeteWingrave | 25 February 2011 - 12:48pm

History...

My son is passionate about History, and I'm really glad I took it at school as our conversations about it form the basis of much of our father / son time. Likewise, with my own dad, we never run out of stuff to say to each other due to a real interest in the subject.

Without History the men in my family might well remain silent for extended periods of time. Mind you, the women might prefer that.

Cliche as it is, don't you find an understanding of History helps you to get a grip on where the world is now, and where it might go in the future? Or is it 'just one bloody thing after another'? :)

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Adman | 25 February 2011 - 12:56pm

Understanding History

The history lessons I had at school consisted of 'one bloody thing after another' with little indication of the reasons. Also, they were extremely parochial - I seem to remember doing Mary, Queen of Scots every year, and certainly learned nothing whatsoever about anywhere outside Scotland. I gave it up to do Greek instead, and on the whole that has been more useful (etymology, mainly). I can't say I've found history useful, though I am interested in it - I've learned much more since leaving school - and I'm way too shallow to care what's happening in the world: maybe if I had kids, or other young relatives, I would feel different.

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PeteWingrave | 25 February 2011 - 1:39pm

All I learned at school

was how to bend not break the rules.

Which, with hindsight, was a very useful skill. It's kept me out of prison, anyway. So far.

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Adman | 25 February 2011 - 11:09am

I'm as honest as the day is long

the longer the daylight the less I do wrong.

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pompeygeorge | 25 February 2011 - 2:17pm

that there's poetry

that is.

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Donald McTroosers | 25 February 2011 - 2:37pm

Thankyou!

For years I've heard that as
"Well look at the daylight, let's hope it's wrong"

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nicktf | 25 February 2011 - 9:51pm

How to say

"The town hall is opposite the Cathedral" in German.

Stupid Teutonic town planners.

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JamesB | 25 February 2011 - 11:17am

Another useful phrase

Er begegnete dem Pfarrer im Schwimmbad.

Never know when you might need that.

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Rosbif | 25 February 2011 - 1:46pm

Herr Korner hat eine

Vollautomatischehifistereoplattenspieler.
Und eine etwas spitze nase.

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fatmanjez | 25 February 2011 - 5:26pm

Speed limit is

Geschwindigskeitsbeschrankung

Actually that's good for making my Germany-domiciled brother giggle

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FakeGeordie | 3 March 2011 - 3:07pm

mais le singe...

...est dans l'arbre.

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Cadabra | 25 February 2011 - 2:23pm

Monsieur Marsaud...

...and his interminable family. Also "La souris est sous la table". God I used to wish "La souris est dans la chat"

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nicktf | 25 February 2011 - 9:54pm

My first day at secondary school

I learned how to spell 'floccinaucinihilipilification'.

The only time I have ever used this word is when I boast somewhat pointlessly that I learned it when I was 11. It's not the kind of word you just slip into conversation, sadly.

I seem to remember learning to spell 'business' and 'necessary' on the same day, which have been rather more useful.

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Uncle Monty | 25 February 2011 - 11:30am

We were too busy studying

antidisestablishmentarianism to do any spelling lessons.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 25 February 2011 - 1:34pm

Just be grateful you didn't go to school in

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.

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Cadabra | 25 February 2011 - 2:25pm

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch...

Tri Mwy O Nhw Ddiweddarach

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stimpy | 25 February 2011 - 5:32pm

Hei Stimpi

Mae dy Gymraeg yn ardderchog ddyn!

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eddie g | 25 February 2011 - 8:43pm

Good to see

the British collective ignorance towards learning foreign languages is alive and well.

(Das Rathaus ist gegenüber den Dom, btw.)

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Brookster | 25 February 2011 - 11:33am

I know

What I meant was, I've never been to a place in Germany where the town hall is, in fact, opposite the cathedral.

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JamesB | 25 February 2011 - 11:43am

Now explain that in German, young man!

And don't forget the dative!!

'The what, Miss?'

Go to the back of the class, keep quiet and stop wasting my time!!

'Yes Miss...'

Which might explain why I can't speak German properly.

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Adman | 25 February 2011 - 11:53am

I have an A* in GCSE German

The two main phrases I can remember are:

"Ein stuck Schwarzwalder Kirschtorte, bitte" and
"Ich habe seit dreizig Tage Verstopfung"

These have helped me through life immeasurably.

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Joe R | 25 February 2011 - 12:11pm

You missed the umlaut

on Stück. I'm marking you down to an A.

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Brookster | 25 February 2011 - 12:14pm

...

Klugscheißer

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Adman | 25 February 2011 - 12:21pm

I missed the umlaut

on Schwarzwalder too. There's a recession on, you know.

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Joe R | 25 February 2011 - 1:04pm

Only one I can remember now:

"Wie komme ich am besten zum Bahnhof, bitte?"

Oh, and "Wenn is das Nunstuck Git und Slotermeyer?" but that's something else.

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milkybarnick | 25 February 2011 - 1:07pm

"Wenn is das Nunstuck Git und Slotermeyer?"

Careful... that joke should only be used under extremely controlled conditions.

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man.of.soup | 25 February 2011 - 1:18pm

Nearly mine.

"Entschuldigen zie, bitte aber wie komme ich am besten zum straßenbahnhaltestelle?"

And then you say aufvaricoseveins.

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Lenny Law | 25 February 2011 - 3:18pm

I can still remember

the first verse of Stille Nachte.

It's proved immensely useful.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 25 February 2011 - 1:40pm

Did you do

Oh! What A Lovely War?

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FakeGeordie | 3 March 2011 - 3:10pm

Brian: Dative !

[the Centurion holds a sword to his throat]
Brian:
Aaagh! Not the dative, not the dative! Er, er, accusative, "Domum"!

Centurion: But "Domus" takes the locative, which is...?

Brian: Er, "Domum"!

Centurion: [Writes "Domum"] Understand? Now, write it out a hundred times.

Brian: Yes sir. Thank you, sir. Hail Caesar, sir.

Centurion: Hail Caesar! And if it's not done by sunrise, I'll cut your balls off.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 25 February 2011 - 1:37pm

All Latin teachers have one joke

"Caesar adsum iam forte,
Brutus aderat.
Caesar sic in omnibus,
Brutus sic inat."

It wasn't funny when I heard it in 1962 either...

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stimpy | 25 February 2011 - 5:34pm

Neither was...

Civile, si ergo
Fortibuses in ero
Gnoses mare, Thebe trux
Vatis inem?
Causan Dux.

We did conversational Latin. The first thing we learned was 'Hic est Marcus. Marcus est puer. Marcus ambulat' It was accompanied by a picture of a kid in a dress and sandals.

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Helena Handcart | 25 February 2011 - 10:03pm

Always thought

conversational Latin would be bloody difficult. You'd be working out what case everything was in, then all the endings and where to put the verbs by when the person you wanted to talk to would have buggered off and laid waste to some Barbarians or something.

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milkybarnick | 25 February 2011 - 10:07pm

The Real World

"The Real World" is mathematics, chemistry and physics not how to get your car fixed for a cheaper price.

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marsonator | 25 February 2011 - 12:07pm

The Real World

"The Real World" is a studio near Box.

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stimpy | 25 February 2011 - 12:43pm

That the bell is

There for my benefit, not yours.

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Pax Romana | 25 February 2011 - 12:29pm

Having said all that, wouldn't it be useful if school taught you

practical everyday stuff - how government works, how the tax system works, how to run your personal finances, the possible pitfalls of credit, basic car/bike safety checks/maintenance, how to change a wheel, how to build an IKEA flatpack, how to put out small domestic fires, etc etc.

Stuff that REALLY prepares you for adult life.

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stimpy | 25 February 2011 - 12:47pm

That's what

your dad's for.

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Brookster | 25 February 2011 - 12:57pm

Funny you should say that....

I used to teach all of those subjects. It was called 'Citizenship'.

Then some ideologue gave Keith Joseph the job of Secretary of State for Education and Science...

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Vulpes Vulpes | 25 February 2011 - 1:43pm

I've been saying it for years...

schools should teach basic plumbing, electrical work and carpentry.

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Patrick Crowther | 25 February 2011 - 3:12pm

if schools have to do a formal risk assessment report for...

.. walking a class of kids half a mile down the road to the theatre, can you imagine the liability they'd lay themselves open to if they:

1. taught electrical work in school?
2. were seen to be encouraging kids to go home and try out their new skills in wiring, plumbing and joinery?

the local council legal dept would have a fit

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Glenbervie | 3 March 2011 - 3:21pm

If it takes two men, three hours to dig an eight-foot hole...

...what colour shoes would they be wearing?

The only thing I've used maths for is adding up rounds of drinks and tax percentages.

And the only I know about physics is from a Billy Bragg song: 'The laws of gravity are very, very strict'.

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Olthwaite | 25 February 2011 - 1:53pm

Billy Bragg

chips in with some information on radioactivity in his song Richard:

How can I go on
When every alpha particle hides a neon nucleus

Unfortunately an alpha particle is equivalent to a helium nucleus, so I'm not sure BB can be totally trusted with regards to physics.

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Brookster | 25 February 2011 - 2:03pm

Marie Curie was Polish born

but French bred

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pompeygeorge | 25 February 2011 - 4:50pm

HA!

FRENCH BREAD!

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Joe R | 25 February 2011 - 5:09pm

The lovely Kate McGarrigle with a chemistry lesson

NaCl (Sodium Chloride).

This song is just wonderful.

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Rosbif | 25 February 2011 - 2:11pm

Any second now....

...someone will post Lehrer doing The Elements.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 25 February 2011 - 2:17pm

These elements?

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el toro calvo grande | 28 February 2011 - 1:34pm

Volleyball

It's just badminton with a football.

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rocktart | 25 February 2011 - 2:12pm

Religion

Except at a remove, as an aid to literature, art appreciation and trying to understand wars.

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Doods | 25 February 2011 - 2:24pm

Anything to do with...

test tubes and bunsen burners.

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Patrick Crowther | 25 February 2011 - 2:44pm

Surely Notway?

I'm an Alchemist baby
I can turn heavy metal .... into gold
I can make unstable compounds of mercury explode

I can make you glow
I can make you phosphoresce
I can burst your bubble
I can make you effervesce

Science tells you love
Is just a chemical reaction in the brain
Let me be your bunsen burner baby
Let me be your naked flame

You're going to turn bright red
When I do my litmus test on you
Acid it was, acid it is
And what acid was true

Check out what's in the test tube baby
You're my little pipette
The favourite piece of apparatus
In my chemistry set

Science tells you love
Is just a chemical reaction in the brain
Let me be your bunsen burner baby
Let me be your naked flame

You're the kind of carbon I can date
You're the element that makes me passionate
There's a chemistry experiment
I want to try in my brain
So come close to the Bunsen Burner
Feel the Heat of the naked flame

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Vulpes Vulpes | 25 February 2011 - 3:20pm

Quadratic equations.

Even doing 'A' level physics and maths I could find no use for the bloody things.

Oddly, I've found the ability to solve simultaneous equations rather useful. Particularly when my wife was doing one of the Professor Layton games on her DS. Lots of the cunning puzzles could be solved by expressing them as simultaneous equations.

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Lenny Law | 25 February 2011 - 3:21pm

Quadratic equations

are EASY!

Just remember, that if ax^2+bx+c = 0 then:

x = -b +/- (sqrt(b^2-4ac)/2a)

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Joe R | 25 February 2011 - 3:29pm

Quadratics are a piece of piss, Joe.

But useless.

I say that.. You're the man to tell me where they may be found doing good work.

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Lenny Law | 25 February 2011 - 9:26pm

How to make water bombs

and give someone a wedgie.

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BryanD | 25 February 2011 - 5:03pm

Oddly enough, I bought this in a local charity shop today.

I felt the need to refresh my memory.

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Vulpes Vulpes | 25 February 2011 - 7:53pm

getting back to the question

What did I learn at school that hasn't been of any use since?

Chemistry - Totally dumbfounded me. I was suspended once for setting fire to the laboratory gas taps.
Biology - well apart from a rudimentary understanding of certain bodily functions and most of that was learned ex-curriculum.
most Mathematics - except basic arithmetic
Religious Education - I've been an atheist since late teens
Metalwork and Woodwork - taught by dimwits
Art - I couldn't draw or paint very well. My Dad taught me how to emulsion a wall and gloss a skirting board.

What did I learn which was of some use?

English - thank goodness I was good at something
History - in which I took a degree later on.
French and German
Standing up for myself
A natural suspicion of people in authority
Guile, cunning, capacity for self preservation - it was the only way to get through a boys grammar school for seven years without having a nervous breakdown.

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rocker43 | 25 February 2011 - 8:53pm

Scottish country dancing...

courtesy of Alloway Primary School - and therefore, as a result, also a lot, and I mean A LOT, about Robert Burns.
From south of the border, though, logarithms particularly spring to mind.

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honestman | 25 February 2011 - 9:04pm

A Paramecium

Moves forward by using it's cilia in a Metachronal Rhythm (TMTFL).

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Uncle Wheaty | 25 February 2011 - 9:43pm

Blind Date with Cilia

is a Sat evening programme I'd actually watch (it would be a lorra lorra laffs)

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Glenbervie | 3 March 2011 - 3:26pm

Sod school, how about university?

Bearing in mind that I did a vocational degree, I would say that geting on for 80% of the stuff I absorbed for exams was of absolutely no use whatsoever in my professional career. It was a case of learn on the job. From the patient's perspective, would you rather know that your dentist knows differential diagnosis of the various types of calcifying epithelial odontogenic cyst, chance of seeing in practice 1:100 over a 40 year career, or that your dentist knows how to accurately diagnose and effectively treat your toothache, chance of seeing 3:1 per day in practice?

Equal emphasis was placed on these things. The problem with degrees is that they're taught by academics.

The "those who can, do, those who can't, teach" saw is a huge slur on teachers. For lecturers at dental schools, however, it is 100% bang on the money. The academic staff are all people who have failed to make the grade in practice or, alternatively, people who were wise enough to realise that they weren't cut out for the thrash and grind of life at the toothface.

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Lenny Law | 25 February 2011 - 9:48pm

Algebra is incredibly useful

Not just for working out change in the pub but for putting an abstract bunch of things together and getting some order and logic behind it.
It helps you work out what's missing as well.

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Austin | 25 February 2011 - 10:10pm

Agreed.

I also often use the equations of motion to work out how fast something might be going / far it might have travelled / fast it might be ac/decellerating. The ability to substitute values into an equation and shift it around to make a part of it the subject is a skill which, once learned, is not forgotten. It takes a while to sink in - well I remember my Old Man trying to teach it to me - but once it's there..

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Lenny Law | 26 February 2011 - 12:23am

I learnt how to avoid

Mr "Bummer" Langley's "OUCH" ruler and wandering hands and I haven't needed it in the real world as the last I heard he was residing at Her Majesties pleasure hopefully being forcefully buggered by fellow inmates.

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Dave Amitri | 25 February 2011 - 11:33pm

As usual it depends

I have used algebra (or a sub-set of it) all my professional life, but then I'm a programmer by trade so that probably doesn't count. I haven't used a multi-gym in probably 20 years (but did for a while, post education).

Haven't used pretty much any of my A level maths, or most of the O level maths since I left school, but I did happened to use simultaneous equations, just the once when I was in my mid 30s. Damn but that was a weird little struggle to a) remember what technique was required, and 2) how to use it.

And I finally got to use long division recently....when my son started doing it for his homework. I'm warming up for calculus and trigonometry for the same reason. God help me if he asks anything about chemistry.

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Harold Holt | 28 February 2011 - 12:38pm

Don't know much about biology

Can't remember the French I took.

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LastRoseofSummer | 2 March 2011 - 10:33pm

Maths

FWIIW, I have always thought that maths is the universal language, & when we eventually meet up with ET, maths will be the language then.

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jackthebiscuit | 2 March 2011 - 10:42pm

Maths rocks (get them off downtown)

Well I was married to a mathematician (abstract algebraist) for 13 years so I can state with authority that it's NOT a universal language. Fortunately he spoke others.
What did I learn? That something that can't be measured (infinity) nevertheless comes in different sizes. That one squared is still one. And that mathematical ability is not sexually transmitted.

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LastRoseofSummer | 2 March 2011 - 11:02pm
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