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Things I do in middle age that would surprise the younger me....
Posted by BernkastelCues on 18 April 2011 - 1:43pm.
Buy and read poetry..
Buy, listen to and play folk music
Seek out and drink real beeer.
Dissaprove of young women wearing revealing clothing.
Enjoy walking in the rain for the hell of it.
Enjoy talking to people older than myself
Get excited about a holiday walking the length of Hadrians Wall.(see item 4 above)
Look forward to a good Sunday lunch.
Bake my own cakes and scones.
Have no issue with wearing long legged length shorts.
Enjoy browsing in furniture shops with my wife.
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I'm not quite middle-aged, but...
I enjoy a countryside walk
I'm often in bed by 10pm
I occasionally find myself agreeing with Daily Mail columnists
Exxcellent....and also true for me.
I have also been known to take to my bed "with a good book" as early as 7pm.
Increasingly find Peter Hitchens to be a voice of sanity.
Told someone exactly what I thought of them (rather than playing it in my head only...)
If's it's any comfort...
...I consider myself middle-aged, but fear I'm edging towards just plain old. I have a bus pass - or I would if I could get it together to apply for one.
But I've been right through my 'agreeing with Daily Mail columnists' (and journalists) phase, and out the other side. I now find them smug, arrogant, lazy, cynical and inhumane. You only have to consider the corrosive swamp of bile and spite they stir up in their readers...
I'll get my zimmer frame...
Middle aged and beyond
and now get excited by home improvements (am looking forward to a day out in Hadleigh this week to go to look at sofas)sofa), waking & getting up far too early (at 6), saying good morning to strangers, still blubbing when watching the Railway Children and admonishing the nephews and nieces.
Is that Hadleigh in Suffolk?
It's a lovely place. There's something I probably wouldn't have liked when I was a teenager but would now - a day out in Hadleigh.
Actually....
I think I would be more surprised by the things I would still be doing or believing in ‘middle age’. For instance...
Listening to the likes of Caravan and Yes.
Believing that music was never going to be better than the Beatles.
Wearing jeans with holes in them.
Worrying about my hairline ( but it’s still there ).
Mucking about in a band ( my middle aged bunch were on Welsh telly recently ).
Getting into stupid arguments with people about bugger all. ( Er, like that semi-legendary Comic Relief spat…)
Having my own room full of guitars and amps and pop music cards from the 60s and a whole wall of music ( admittedly on CD now rather than cassette ).
Thinking there was no-one sexier than Fenella Fielding in ‘Carry on Screaming’.
Being convinced that Eric and Ernie were the funniest British comedians ever.
Being convinced that pop music was largely defined in the 60s and that all the major innovations have already been made within the guitar, bass and drums framework.
Still playing rather nifty ‘drums’ with a couple of pencils ( even though I’m not very good with a real kit- possibly because I’m a leftie ).
A quick question
When does 'middle age' start?
I'm 37 and may or may not be middle aged depending on whether you're squinting or not.
In favour of 'oh yes you are': my hair is starting to make me look like a monk; Friday nights seem to involve a lot more TV than they once did; I would gladly sacrifice all manner of social events to spend a few minutes with my daughter; 6.30am is a normal getting up time; I have no idea what the local kids are saying and I will never tire of being amazed at the half-mast-jeans look
Speaking for 'oh no you're not': I get ridiculously excited by gig-going; I'll happily stay up all night drinking and chatting; I have never yet watched a whole episode of any property show; I take great, juvenile, pride in avoiding wearing suits to work; none of my clothes come from M&S; I don't make groaning noises when standing up or sitting down
You've answered your own question:
you're middle aged when you can see the 'oh yes you are' and the 'oh no you're not' points straight off the bat.
Aha...
Or does that mean I'm just somewhere between youth and middle age? 'Late youth' or 'pre-middle' perhaps?
No?
Oh. *Goes off in search of comfy slacks and elbow patches for cardigan, considers making a bonfire for no clear reason*
"Bonfire for no clear reason"
Hi Dad!
Who was it said
you're middle aged when your broad mind and narrow waist change places?
Realising my parents
talked a lot of sense.
"Marriage is when we admit ...
... our parents were probably right."
I used to quote my late grandmother (God rest her soul) with derision, now I quote her with affection and respect; I hope she knows that.
So nobody's going to admit..
.. to still having a quick one off the wrist?
sure
just not so quick these days.
And I usually need a sit down and a cuppa afterwards.
or during.
I just snorted tea
Funniest post of the year. I swear the cuppa I am now wearing was not brewed for any onanistic reasons.
The onanist entertains
I'll let you know when I get there.
*smug face*
*realises I'm still 9 years closer to middle age than Joe*
*crestfallen face*
*smug face*
There's an old Jasper Carrott monologue along these lines...
When good old Jasp says...
"you know you're ready for the pipe and slippers when looking through the ads at the back of the Sunday papers and you see a pair of shoes and think 'they look REALLY comfy'...."
I still HATE gardening and DIY and at 41, I doubt I will change. The hoardes that descend on B&Q and Wyvale over the weekend perplexes me no end. I find so solace, no sense of achievement whatsoever for the blight they place on my life. If I had my way, I'd happily patio the entire back garden and pay local painter and decorators to do the job. (Un)fortunately, the FPO takes her job title most seriously and insists on DIY and gardening...allotments, I can understand, but gardening for FUN??? No no no no no no no....
I no longer see the fun in going out and getting so wasted that I can't remember a) what I did, b) how I got home, c) how I paid for it and d) dealing with the mother of all hangovers that now last 48 hours....I seem to recall minicabs from Ipswich to Chelmsford after falling asleep on the last train being extortionate 10 years ago. God only knows what they are now. The 20 year old me that loved to stay out all night would be appalled.
I had this discussion with the FPO yesterday,
after we returned from the garden centre. She commented (read: criticised) that I don't like gardening and related stuff, like making it all look nice. "Not really," was my reply, "I much prefer sitting in it, relaxing with a book and a drink, soaking up the rays and generally enjoying it."
Women are from Venus, y'know...
Uncanny.
I had the very same conversation with lady g.
I do love DIY.
Specifically woodwork. I've discovered a real love for it, and even - dare I say - some aptitude. Having made two guitars (or most of two guitars), I recently turned my hand to making a fitted sideboard for our front room. It's gone quite well.
Thinking of doing a City & Guilds carpentry course, actually. POSSIBLY even dreaming of one day packing in the job and doing it full time. At the prices I've been quoted for similar work, I'd not go short.
Oh, but gardening?
The scrotal application of a meat tenderiser would only be marginally less preferable.
Ditto
But the houses either side of mine have beatifully maintained gardens, so I need to keep reasonably on top of it to avoid people wondering if my house is derelict.
Gardening
I would rather eat my own shit than trim hedges.
These guitars you've made.
Are they playable? I only ask because I've played several homemade guitars and they've all been dogs.
I realize I'm sounding rude and abrasive, which is not my intention, but I've always been slightly sceptical about Brian May and the fact that forty-odd years down the line his main guitar is not only homemade his first attempt at luthiery!
Can't help thinking that when he tells the story of how he built it he neglects to say "Oh yeah, then I took it down to Tony Zemaitis who took the whole thing to bits and put it back together properly."
I'll be at the next London mingle and fully expect to leave with one or both of your machines inserted in me!
Very.
And none taken.
I sold the Tele I made for a profit after the guy had played it for a week and liked it. The other is my main guitar: a Jazzmaster with my own amusing wiring design.
Building solid electrics isn't rocket science if you have the right tools, patience and are working from a sound design.
Good for you!
Let me know if you ever build another Tele. Especially if it's butterscotch!
I haven't got the hang of necks.
They're a bastard if you haven't got a router table, a thicknessing plane and fret slotting equipment (I haven't). I had help on those, and because I wanted the Jazzmaster just so, paid professional help in that case. But the bodies are very doable if you know your way around a piece of wood, and the wiring's childs' play. It's slow work, and sometimes frustrating, but there's tons of support out there.
These days, I'd tackle the necks solo, having done a lot more woodwork since - apart from anything else, I want the excuse to buy the kit!
But there won't be any Bob guitars for a while. They're too bloody time consuming, and not cheap to produce, even if you don't count the tools.
I was going to ask about the necks.
I'd read a couple of books or guitar making and there was a fantastic tonewood stockist down the road in Fareham but it was the neck construction which worried me and rather put me off making my own axe. I should've taken your option and got someone else to do the tricky bits. My main guitar was made by a chap in Gosport called John Matthews who moved on to making violin and cello bows.
His bows retail for around a grand. And take, I would wager, a lot less time and effort to construct than a guitar.
Skateboard
My younger self would be appalled that my middle-aged eyes had convinced me that, on first reading, Bob had recently turned his hand to making a fitted skateboard for his front room.
Gardening/Allotments
Where is the fun in a weekend hobby which leaves you more tired than when you finished work on a Friday?
More Carrott on middle-age
"When you go to a record shop and buy a dozen albums, and come out with change from a fiver."
Alright, it was thirty years ago.
Gardening
My first thought on reading the OP.
The younger me wouldn't have comprehended the pleasure I now get pottering around the garden at the weekend irrespective of the weather. the enjoyment to be gained from DiY still eludes me.
Other things;
That a meal without meat on the plate can be enjoyable.
There is a point to Jazz (well some of it).
Working away from home and stopping in good hotels/eating at nice restaurants would become a chore.
I would be happy and content living on an income much, much lower than the one I had planned. I was an ambitious, not entirely likeable, young man.
I´m not middle aged ( I plan to live to 120 )
Spending half my time looking for something I´d just put down
Wearing insoles
I am expanding-round-the-middle-aged...
I sometimes have - like a moment of clarity - a flashback return to being a bit youthful, only to cock it up seconds later with something middle-agedy.
I still go to extreme metal gigs - and spend half the time wondering where everyone is getting the energy. I'm still obsessive about buying new music - then agonise over where to shelve it. Sigh.
Have joined
the National Trust and enjoy Antiques Roadshow.
I really couldn't have foreseen either, even a few years ago.
I was old before my time
I joined the National Trust in my early 20s and enjoyed watching Antiques Roadshow when I was 11 with Arthur Negus as one of the experts.
Going for a Song
wasn't it?
If I have to admit to being middle-aged
then the following would cause the younger me to shout "Old Fart in my diection"
- Drinking proper Beer
- Drinking Bourbon
- Getting up early in the morning (even at weekends)
- Happily staying in on a Friday and Saturday night
- Being a "responsible" father
- Shaving more then once a fortnight
- Wearing a suit to work
- Arguing with the TV, Radio or something written in a newspaper
here's some more...
- Going 'Hey yup!' when getting out of a chair
- Saying "Ooh, chaffinch' and pointing out of the window
- Knowing what a cotoneaster is
- Getting up early and going for a run
- Thinking about getting a dressing gown
- Not bothering to watch any film that starts after 9.00pm
- Starting a long anecdote and then... um...
arrowed
for the 'ooh, chaffinch' - laughter of recognition, here.
Up arrow for the cotoneaster
Up arrow for the cotoneaster reference. One could also add, knowing how it's pronounced (and has nothing to do with a natural fibre and a Spring festival).
Firing up
a big Apple iMac and having the power to go anywhere, hear anything that:
takes my whim, draw any ellipse I fancy (compasses only let you do a circle), see and talk to my aunt in Atlanta GA and my friends in Belgium, meet interesting guys n' gals united buy a love of a daft band from Leeds who deny they were ever Goths (although they are the uber Goth band), then find some lovely old farts who live nearby and enjoy talking bollocks whilst getting pished.
how's that?
I know I'm middle-aged
but I do approve of scantily-clad young women although generally much more interested in searching out a good beer.
I also find myself wondering if (and hoping) there will be seating when arriving at a gig
I find myself parenting my parents, and they've started asking me for advice
Everyone says I'm grumpy, and I like it
Needing a smoke before horizontal activity with the GLW - or agreeing that a good night's sleep would be more 'sensible'
Police Officers look positively juvenile and doctors seem so much younger these days
Starting on a new crime novelist but insisting on doing them 'in order'
And there's never anything on the TV
Having an allotment...... and a bad back
I was born middleaged
but the other day I was talking to my brother about "Kids of today" and I listened to him complain about them so I said "You were no angel yourself" to which he agreed. It was then I realised there were three stages in life
1. You are the defendant on Judge Judy
2/ You are the plantiff on Judge Judy
3/ You ARE Judge Judy
This is the good judge herself in action
http://youtu.be/WUqRsM5NAIA
Listening
to Gilbert O'Sullivan
Watching "Time Team"
Still be playing cricket (first game this weekend)
Regretting every day not being a better son to my Dad (he won't be around for ever 20 year old Dave, buy him a bloody pint you dick)
Ooh. Loads.
Having a haircut which is how short?
Staying in on a Friday night.
Not listening to Iron Maiden, Dio or The Alan Parsons Project any more.
Not listening to Iron Maiden?
What kind of a sick world is this?
It's a very recent thing
Ever since I turned 27 I have felt 27 from that moment.
Unfortunately I recently became 47. This in itself isn't a concern (see comment above), though I may finally be starting to age. Witness:
- Found myself in Sainsbury's looking at the kitchenware and yelped in delight to find a 26 inch flan dish offered at a 33% discount. 'Oh, marvellous. I'll make a ham and egg pie in that' Not a quiche you'll note but a ham and egg pie. I don't think I've said those words since 1975
- Have started to admire Fred Dibnah's hat
- Planning long car journeys around bladder control
- Discovering the toenails on my big toes are now seemingly composed of quartz and/or marble. Attempts at cutting involve immense sustained pressure on the clippers which finally give to the sound of ricocheting bullet sound effect.
- If Mrs Beezer wants my attention she can do so by pulling at the hairs growing out of my ears.
- M&S Blue Harbour jumpers are starting to look 'nice'
- Thrilled to realise I own 2 pairs of brown brogues.
Blue Harbour
Jeez Beez - you're 47, you're not dead. Don't do it!
Mrs Harry
does my toenails as my arms no longer stretch far enough round my midriff to get a decent purchase on my claws. I think she uses wire cutters to facilitate said shearings
Brown shoes
don't make it
[I should know; I've got some]
Brown Shoes
At the recent NWM mingle, I was complimented on my rather natty footwear (Brown DM loafers), I was very pleased with myself for my rather raffish taste. So happy in fact, I took a step back & tripped over the very low stage (trust me, it was not an elegant sight)
I now realise my fleeting sense of pleasure in recieving the compliment caused the trip, & I brunged it upon myself for being such a smug git.
No fool like an old fool.
feet
now look like Bilbo Baggins'
describing hangovers as "Teenage-like" even though I dont remember getting hangovers like this when I were a lad
Saying "now then" when greeting people
Weeing at least twice during the night
Wind
Starting every reply to GLW's comments with "what?" and her having to repeat it
Let's face it, I'm a bit of a catch
I´m only in my early thirties
But developing a Richard Thompson obsession seems rather inevitable, at least if I remain a part of The Massive.
Carry a Star Trek communicator with me at all times.
It's called an iPhone but it's getting on to be the same thing.
1. Get bored with football and angry with footballers.
2. Admit that Abba, Queen, ELO etc. were brilliant and it was just my youthful censoriousness that ruled them out.
3. Know what "censorious" means (at age 17 I was called censorious by my English teacher when I complained that nothing happened in Jane Austen except a load of toffs having tea).
4. Realise that Blue Harbour clothing is not a matter of choice. Well, it's that or Cotton Oxford.
5. Choose shoes primarily based on comfort.
6. Worry about the effect that "lad mags" will have on my daughters.
7. Ditto the internet.
8. Still agonise over what's the best career choice for me.
My oldest friend,
who I've known since Infants' School, considers it a sign of a mid-life crisis that I've "suddenly developed an interest in reggae."
Translated: I recently bought a few of the Trojan box sets, to go with the other reggae and ska recordings that I've had for years in my eclectic collection. On a visit once, he "caught me" (his words) listening to one.
We are both 35 years old.
I know what you mean about the reggae thing
A couple of instances for me:
1. When listening to Peel in the early 80s, I always moaned whenever he played Misty In Roots or somesuch. Whereas now, like you, I own a few boxed sets.
2. Stiff Little Fingers - Hanx! - at 16 I thought this was the most thrilling sound in the world, other than the 10 minute dirge that is "Johnny Was". Now 30 years on, of course I realise that that is the single best track on the album.
Slightly off the point and possibly a little heavy...
But I never believed that I would find myself in a situation when I was the 'grown-up' in the room. When my mum died a couple of years ago I was shocked to find that everyone was looking to me to make decisions, including my dad. Of course I never thought I'd ever have to organise a parent's funeral, even though obviously you know you proabably will one day.
On a lighter note I'm still waiting to discover that I like Prog, and I still like very little music made by people with beards. (Not quite sure what I'm doing around these parts...!!). I still listen to The Jam, I still want to be either Joe Strummer or Kevin Rowland when I grow up, and I still think Helen Mirren is one of the sexiest women I've ever seen.
The thirteen year old me would still recognise me I like to think.
Know what you mean
It's worrying when people think you can be trusted.On a lighter note,I went to see the marvellous Paul Rodgers the other night only to find myself getting a bit sniffy about people of my own age (and over) 'getting down'in a very undignified way.I am 54 and I think I should maybe start arranging my own funeral.
Boden be damned - let alone Blue Harbour
Never bothered about middle age when I passed my forties, and when in my mid-50s I bought the mandatory droptop it still didn't occur that I might be there, but you miserable buggers have brought the evils of middle age right home. Yup, I suppose it's not really the act of a spring chicken to:
Breakfast
I eat Alpen for breakfast
The personal
folk revival has come as a bit of a shock..
and listening more to that sort of fol de rol than to teenage jesus and the jerks
oh the shame the shame
Going back to the original question .
Things I do in middle age that would surprise the younger me
Well the younger me was struggling to suppress a yawn as Jonathan Bowler showed me how bleedin wonderful this black box called a ZX81 with its tape recorder memory and everything.
And the middle aged me has just spent all day furtling about with a major corporation's SAP system and here I am talking to some lovely people on a MacBook Pro with more memory than a zillion of those ZX81s listening to something called a podcast.
Surprised? I think the younger me would have thought I was an alien.
There are those who think
you have to be an alien to understand SAP... :-)
i find it much easier.....
..... To apologise when I cock something up.
(Years of practise)
Middle age contentment
but I don't yet disapprove of young women wearing revealing clothing although it is advisable to peep from behind sunglasses so that you don't get accused of being a pervert.
The younger me would be very surprised to see that:
I don't smoke either legal or illegal cigarettes.
I cry at sad films almost always.
I can cook more substantial fare than fish finger sandwiches
I do the food shopping every week and enjoy it
I love jazz and reggae
I watch Coronation Street as often as I can and get withdrawal symptoms when I miss more than a couple of consecutive episodes
Corrie
I forgot to Sky plus when I went on holiday recently,
F*cking heartbroken !
I'd be surprised to learn
that the music I learned to love in my early teens - The Stones, Joni Mitchell, Steely Dan, CSN&Y, Van Morrison, As Usual and Dylan is still the stuff I play the most now.
mid-life stasis
- Walking to the bottom of the stairs, as opposed to jumping from the top, grabbing the lip of the bannisters on the way down and swinging to the bottom like Errol Flynn. My body can no longer stand those abrupt changes in G-force nor the jarring sudden stop at the end.
- Taking prescribed medicine in order to maintain a bearable existence. Carrying said medicine around in a tiny pill case like an old man.
- Booking a hotel in advance whenever I go abroad, rather than the old plane ticket/visa combination of my youth.
The thing that would surprise and maybe disappoint my younger self the most is how little I have changed. I can't say that I've really grown as a person or exceeded anyone's expectations. I've just slowed down.
The younger me
1. would be despairing of my lack of Oscars, Booker Prizes, platinum discs, Olympic medals and hefty alimony cheques.
2. would be in full eye-rolling-smirk mode at the crap I can come out with during meetings
3. should be glad that her lack of seeing into the future will allow her to have a bloody good time growing up.
Put my glasses down somewhere
but I can't see where without my glasses...
I'd be surprised to learn that
on a Sunday morning I was reading a blog about middle age on an ipad instead of nursing a hangover and cursing that last pint of snakebite and black.
Speaking of which, my younger self would be horrified to learn that in middle age I have turned into a two pot screamer whose idea of a heavy night out is 4 pints. And then is more worried about not going for a run the next day than having a hangover.
Middle age. It messes with your priorities.