They've axed Holby Blue...

To which I say, 'about bloody time'. Yes, I've seen it, and it's tripe. I'm sick of by-numbers TV.

TV fans, what should be next for the chop?

Wossy and Graham Norton.

Wossy and Graham Norton. Both "race for the remote" dreadful.

Twangothan | 6 August 2008 - 5:04pm

A bit harsh

when there's the likes of My Family and After You've Gone walking the schedules

lovelyian | 6 August 2008 - 5:06pm

Tham too. never heard of

Tham too. never heard of them, but I'm prepared to believe you. Wield that axe!

Twangothan | 6 August 2008 - 5:13pm

well

My Family stars Robert 'Citizen Smith' Lindsay and Zoe 'lots of way better things' Wanamaker slumming it in a family-based comedy that makes Terry & June look like Amy & Blake. They've even complained about how shit it is. The 'comedy' members of the family are beyond painful, but because around 8 million people have nothing better to do, it's now nine years into an unending existence.

After You've Gone stars Nicholas 'one trick pony' Lyndhurst (look in the Equity book under Panache Of An Ironing Board, although it may be withdrawn due to legal action from Ironing Boards) playing a single dad in charge of equally unhumourous children with Celia 'clearly in need of a conservatory' Imrie debasing herself in the name of ratings. Bloody awful.

lovelyian | 6 August 2008 - 5:24pm

I'll stand up for 'My

I'll stand up for 'My Family' - it's not up to much, but Robert Lindsay and Zoe Wanamaker make it watchable. Just.

Andrew F | 7 August 2008 - 12:21am

oh no they dont

get out more

MatDavies | 10 August 2008 - 5:36pm

Doesn't Robert Lindsay...

go home, watch a bit of 'My Family' and say to himself "God that's shite"?

Patrick Crowther | 10 August 2008 - 10:46pm

I doubt they let him in the house

knowing he is in that tosh.

Leedsboy | 10 August 2008 - 11:06pm
LOUDspeaker | 7 August 2008 - 10:21am
lovelyian | 7 August 2008 - 10:27am

Okay

Thanks for the link.

LOUDspeaker | 7 August 2008 - 10:30am

Can't stand either.

Waste of licence fee. The novelty has worn off to an extent that I realise there is no base metal.

Leedsboy | 6 August 2008 - 10:49pm

Golly. Where does one start?

Richard and Judy can fuck right off for one.
They can take Noel Edmonds and his stupid boxes with them.
If Eastenders doesn't start bucking up their ideas they can collect their things and leave the premises.

jennifer | 12 August 2008 - 10:30am

Love that...

'They can take Noel Edmonds and his stupid boxes (!) with them.'

An appropriate critique... may I only add 'stupid jumpers' as well.

Patrick Crowther | 12 August 2008 - 10:34am

Be much quicker to write what they shouldn't axe

But first for the cull should be the Big Brother franchise and the cringeworthy "I'm a Celebrity".
Then all those ITV detective shows that clutter up Sunday night - Frost, Midsomer, Taggart, etc
Heartbeat should have the tubes pulled - surely they should be up to 2008 by now?
Not forgetting X-factor and its ilk, particularly those Graham Norton ones on BBC.
Hows that for starters?

Salty | 6 August 2008 - 5:11pm

oh god - sorry i'm a sucker

for the sunday night crime rubbish. As my dear old Dad used to say "it's not sunday night unless there's a good murder".

I realise that Marple/Frost/Midsomer isn't the most challenging of TV fodder, but frankly, with Monday morning hoving into view, i find it's just the ticket. With Top Gear taping (sorry, recording!) on the Sky Plus...

ivan | 6 August 2008 - 9:46pm

'Hollyoaks'. I'm no great

'Hollyoaks'. I'm no great fan of soaps at the best of times, but I just can't see the appeal of it at all. When I was a teenager, I didn't want to watch things about teenagers and their lives on TV - and I certainly don't want to now.

It would seem 'Gavin & Stacey's James Corden agrees...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/entertainment/newsid_7545000/7545482.s...

Andrew F | 6 August 2008 - 5:12pm

On the grounds that

if I don't like it I don't watch it, I usually avoid early evening BBC1. However, I was channel-hopping the other day and was startled to discover the Eastenders is still running. Who knew?

Gatz | 6 August 2008 - 5:31pm

Don't start

I may have my faults, but I never miss 'Enders

(goes into hiding)

lovelyian | 6 August 2008 - 5:34pm

I agree

I don't think Enders is the worst offender by far.

What about Harley Street? Jesus.

Five-Centres | 6 August 2008 - 5:43pm

Salty, you are spot on

with your comment about the "celebrity" shows. I read recently that teenagers were asked to say what they wanted to be when they grew up. In my teenage years it was things like an astronaut, a doctor, a train driver etc. The vast majority of todays youth simply said they wanted to be famous! Without any of the hassle of exams or in a bands case busting a gut around the country for years before getting a recording deal. So no doubt all the celebrity shows have helped create this apathy amongst some of our youth.

prettyvacant | 6 August 2008 - 5:47pm

The Catherine Tate Show

her comedy leaves me stone-faced, but I was pleasantly surprised by how good she's been in Doctor Who.

Patrick Crowther | 6 August 2008 - 6:06pm

Like all sketch shows

the repetition gets a bit wearing and a tad predictable, but I did like Gran and the Northern couple who were always staggered by what they were offered in various restaurants.

Salty | 6 August 2008 - 7:39pm

Would I Lie To You?

Unbelievably bad, beyond parody. I've had enough of Angus Deayton's smug, look at me, I'm a smartarse face

Gordon Kerr | 6 August 2008 - 7:54pm

Trinny and Susannah

So sick of you.

And 'The Culture Show' - should be good in theory but aren't they just too pleased with themselves (Lauren Laverne) and so many art forms and reports rushed through in unsatisfying bite-sized glimpses so brief as to be practically worthless. Just revamp it as a serious music show like OGWT and have done with it and Mark Kermode can have his own film show as he's good. Andrew Graham-Dixon already does art progs - he's good too I think, just needs a proper show to himself to do him justice. Well that's how I feel after watching it last night.

Sven | 6 August 2008 - 8:31pm

I like Kermode on the radio

but I saw him do a segment on the Culture Show, and it was painfully bad. He was setting up a screening of an unreleased Kenneth Brannagh film in a small obscure town. He just seemed so out of place doing such mediocre middle of the road nuts and bolt TV with a stupid grin on his face. He should at all times only be filmed in poorly lit Gothic castles or basements. Darkness is his only friend along with a film projector. Anything else is just wrong.

LOUDspeaker | 7 August 2008 - 10:28am

God save us

from celebrity chefs. Especially that tosser who swears every other word. And who eats the shite they serves up? Bring back Delia. Let's be having you.

stinglikeabee | 6 August 2008 - 9:09pm

Last Of The Summer Wine

If only that were true.

And everything that's broadcast on BBC 1 and ITV 1 between the hours of 8-10pm Monday to Friday.

Hollyoaks. Can't they all die in a bizarre hair gel incident?

Andy_B | 6 August 2008 - 9:57pm

yes, yes

Hair gel must be flammable, surely?

mattbrammer | 12 August 2008 - 2:58pm

All the programmes

about people who have let themselves go and then get Channel 4 to spruce them up. I don't want to see your unbrushed teeth. Go away.

Leedsboy | 6 August 2008 - 10:47pm

Seconded...

along with all those programmes like 'How Clean Is Your Fridge', 'Dog Guantanamo Bay' etc etc

Patrick Crowther | 7 August 2008 - 7:11am

All of it.

Burn it all down.
(oh, except Corrie)
(and some films)
(OK, BBC4 music docs on fridays)
(I actually quite like Kitchen Nightmares)
(And Hugh Fearley Whittingstall)

Retropath2 | 7 August 2008 - 7:50am

Hugh

is fine as well. He seems to have a point.

Leedsboy | 7 August 2008 - 8:09am

Dear Points of View

I watch hardly any TV other than news, documentaries and the odd foopball match. May I say that you all seem remarkably familiar with the output of the most popular channels. Since it's a universal truth that broadcast television is about as culturally edifying and entertaining as a puncture on the M62, why do you do it?

Archie Valparaiso | 7 August 2008 - 8:19am

Insult

"99% of all television is an insult to the human spirit" - a letter published in the Metro newspaper.

LOUDspeaker | 7 August 2008 - 10:32am

There's nothing wrong with watching TV

There's no shame in it anymore. Hide behind your Radio Times if you like but we're out and proud.

Next you'll be telling us ITV's common.

Five-Centres | 7 August 2008 - 9:40am

The crowning...

turd in the waterpipe must be Hotel Babylon..described by the Beeb as, and I quote: "A tantalising and seductive insight into the sexy world of the luxury hotel industry". I'll leave the abuse to others but bear in mind that it is so good that Tamzin Outhwaite left after series 1

CHARLIE GORDON | 7 August 2008 - 9:43am

Trivia

I think the writer of the novel is married to a top BBC executive. I don't know why this bit of information sprang to mind as I can't see any obvious connection between this and why the programme is made by the BBC.

LOUDspeaker | 7 August 2008 - 10:35am

Yes...

and the said exec works in the entirely unrelated BBC Comedy dept so the conncetion really is tenuous

CHARLIE GORDON | 7 August 2008 - 10:56am

Relax, 5c.....

Have you ever watched spanish telly?

Retropath2 | 7 August 2008 - 9:51am

Yes I have

So I know where he's coming from

Five-Centres | 7 August 2008 - 11:58am

Spanish TV's crowning achievement

was to sell the format that would become 3-2-1, starring Ted Rogers and Dusty Bin.

Archie Valparaiso | 7 August 2008 - 12:03pm

George Gently....must die

Like Heartbeat, without the decent soundtrack. And just think, Martin Shaw refused to make any more episodes of "The Professionals" because he wanted to be a serious AC-TOR...luvvie....

Nodge1970 | 7 August 2008 - 1:52pm

The Wire

not really.

All of the above, apart from Frost maybe. Also BBC Breakfast, GMTV, Property Porn, How Clean is Your Arse, anything about Auctions, car boot sales etc etc that never ever mention ebay, all that Jeremy Kyle, Tricia stuff, in fact everything but The Wire, please.

badartdog | 7 August 2008 - 9:38pm

My main problem with TV

Is the general public. I turn on my TV so I can see a world of fiction, I do not want to see "Reality" shows. Nor do I want to see Andrew Loyd Webber sitting in a chair like a smug arse deciding who's going to be the next background peasant.

All reality shows off, please.

Bargain Hunt can stay.

TheYoungOne | 8 August 2008 - 2:10pm

Andrew Lloyd Webber

doesn't sit in a chair like a smug arse. He sits in the chair being a smug arse. He know no other way and its an objective fact.

Leedsboy | 8 August 2008 - 2:17pm

Is it too late to start TV all over again?

We recently moved to the country and now find ourselves in a place with terrible reception which means we only get the mainstream channels and a couple more on Freeview.

But I'm not really bothered as my TV viewing seems to have dropped to absolutely nil. There is practically nothing that I want to watch, and I wish I could have a refund from TV Licensing as I just use the TV for watching DVDs.

Whole series come and go and I remain totally oblivious. Lost lives up to its name in our house, and Heroes remain unemployed here. I am aware there is something called Big Brother but I'd rather try eating my own head than watch it.

I'm sure I'm probably missing out on interesting stuff, but for whatever reason (too much work, books to read, films to watch, new music to hear, places to go, people to see) I'm making no effort whatsoever to watch anything in particular. If I read about a show that does sound good, I generally find myself picking it up on DVD a few months later to watch in one go.

If I sound like some sort of TV snob, fair enough, but for me the small number of good shows has become so outweighed by unutterable reality lowest-common-denominator trash that I don't want to wade through drivel trying to find the odd gem. And before anybody says it, I know something like SkyPlus would separate the wheat from the chaff, but we're surrounded by so many trees that we can't get a satellite signal.

Phew! I'm going for a lie down at my club while I moan about how things used to be better way back when, despite the rickets, Spanish flu, young Mr Hitler, etc, etc.

MrLovegrove | 9 August 2008 - 4:56pm

Three channels

That's all we need.

Then the money can be spent on quality, not quanitity.

Five-Centres | 12 August 2008 - 10:57am

indeed, indeed...

...if it wasn't for Mrs Brammer's overwhelming desire to fill her head with the ongoing mitherings of all the witless wonders and fame seekers who appear on TV then I wouldn't pay the licence fee to remove the temptation...if there is anything decent on i always miss it and get the DVD instead anyway...

mattbrammer | 12 August 2008 - 2:57pm

I only need one channel

But when there were only three channels that didn't happen.

Personally I only need one channel. The one that my Sky+ box pumps out that almost miraculously only has a listing of programmes that I'll probably like. Each of them available at any time of day with no requirement to ever sit through a commercial break or a trailer.

JohnW | 15 August 2008 - 7:10am

That programme

with Gok Wang where he gets fat birds to get their arses out always puts me off my evening bottle of Cobra. Incidentally, I had the misfortune to watch Gok's Fashion Fix or whatever it's called, the other night. Mrs Futurenoir was watching, and I was amazed to see his co presenter is a certain Brix Smith. Yes, the former Mrs Mark E Smith, once of The Fall and The Adult Net. Good Grief.

Mark E Smith's Fashion Fix. Now that's a show I'd pay to watch.

I'd also like to see the end of two pints of piss and a packet of scratchings, or whatever the hell it's called. I was amazed to see this show described as a comedy in my TV guide.

And bring back Stella Street, 15 Storys High and World Of Pub.

Futurenoir | 9 August 2008 - 7:38pm

15 Storeys High

A work of genius....

**Reminds himself of the Blue Rat episode**
**Wanders off to order the boxset**

mat_riches | 12 August 2008 - 2:06pm

AGREE AGREE AGREE (ON 3 COUNTS!)

I agree about Mark Kermode (or Kermit as I laughingly call him) - the man is a quiffed bohemoth who mugs and smugs his way around the TV in that way only self satisfied critics who love the sound of their own writing do - i used to love the Culture Show before the 'rebrand', but now it seems to have decided to be some sort of lame 'Jools Holland with art added to it' rip-off!

I agree about Gok Wang programmes too, in fact i think the guy is secretly not even gay so that he can manhandle as much twix-related bird fat as possible in the guise of 'helping them love their bodies more without dieting or surgery' - seems to me he's a bit too over-fixated with it for someone who 'bowls from the pavillion end'!!

I agree about Big Brother - god where do I even start about this 24 hour twat-a-thon - is there still people out there who are seriously even bothered one gnats chuff about the latest 10 second of fame wananbees? - Non-celebrity death match (for real with chainsaws and nasty other gore-related stuff) would be more appealing to watch!

Oh, and yeah, bring back 15 Storeys High, I loved it - the fact that my girlfriend didnt get it made it even more funny and watchable for me!

PS: i'm not a nasty man honest, but I just hate how TV has become over the past few years, what happened to the promised quality???

daveyman1968 | 13 August 2008 - 12:14pm

New Tricks

is the only thing worth watching these days.

Five-Centres | 13 August 2008 - 12:28pm

Indeed, so it would seem....

Not seen it but.....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2008/aug/12/television.tvratings

And Dennis bloody Waterman sings the theme.......

Retropath2 | 13 August 2008 - 12:36pm

If they...

...axed all these programmes what on earth would they fill the schedules with? I agree with all but Heartbeat - it's been 1969 for sixteen years in Aidensfield. I know life in life in the Dales can seem slow (despite Emmerdale) but that's quite something...

MUSO71 | 13 August 2008 - 1:31pm

I think it should be

about 1978 in Aidensfield about now. Everyone loves Heartbeat. Except me.

Five-Centres | 15 August 2008 - 12:21pm