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The Worst Album of All Time?
Posted by dai on 25 October 2011 - 6:34pm.
Lulu - Lou Reed and Metallica.
Got be up there, surely ?
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Entertainment For Lively Minds
Lulu - Lou Reed and Metallica.
Got be up there, surely ?
No argument from me...
Surely Lou Reed has by now travelled so far up his own fundament that an end must be in sight?
what a racket.
There was a fantastic post on the YouTube page of the preview of one of the tracks:
Dear Lou Reed and Metallica,
No.
Yours sincerely,
Everybody.
The last time I looked there were so many comments I think somebody should put them in book form, it was very entertaining reading, as in, no-one, not Metallica fans nor Lou Reed fans, had a positive word to say about it.
I must say, it's interesting how different people hear music, even their own, differently from others. For Lou Reed, ex of Velvet Underground, Rock n Roll Animal LP, Street Hassle, New York et al, to say that the Metallica thing is the best thing he's ever done is quite baffling.
Having won a competition.....
.....for the Stones' Virgin-era back catalogue, can I just say that 'Dirty Work' is a shocker!
Lou Reed
is a world class bullshit artist, whose only achievement has been to hook up with vastly more gifted collaborators (chiefly John Cale and David Bowie - not, I imagine, Metallica).
On the other hand, he's always looked cool in shades.
In addition to "world class bullshit artist", may I add...
Humourless tosser
Pretentious prick
Self-absorbed arsehole
Miserable bastard
Joyless fuckhead
Wanker
Don't sugarcoat it. What do
Don't sugarcoat it. What do you really think?
Joyless Fuckhead
TMFTL
Can't disagree
can't disagree with any of those views of Lou, but I'll still listen to the older stuff.
Lou and Metallica, it's a combination where you just know exactly what it's going to sound like... and therefore don't need to ever hear it.
This ....
...is why I miss coming here.
When I saw the ads for this album I thought it was a joke. Could we possibly get five more self absorbed pieces of shit into a room together?
It made me want to illegally download it, then not listen to it.
By the way, how's things, Patrick. Can we not encourage you on to Twitter?!?
Lou Reed has previous form
With Metal Machine Music.
That is the one and only album I have never heard and do not need to hear based on reviews and common knowledge to know that it is bollocks.
I do think Transformer is a great album though.
dwad
The best thing people can usually say about Lou Reed is that they like his early stuff - and I totally agree. The problem is that he looks down on us for it. I've read an interview where he says, and I paraphrase, that he can't believe people still listen to that shit... and he's not saying this in a self depreciating way.
Love Beach by ELP
Hot Space by Queen
Anything where a major act drops the ball is good for a laugh.
Hot Space
Agreed -you beat me to the punch there - that's when I gave up on them as a credible act - one or two OK singles following that but what a poor album!
It followed two other patchy albums
I think this is the last record where Freddie was really trying. At around the same time, Roger Taylor released Fun In Space, a surprisingly good record, showing off his multi instrumental skills & production. I believe that the Works and all later Queen records are effectively Roger's show, playing many of the instruments and handling the production.
That's why they are more consistent, but they lack Freddie's inspiration, which audibly ran dry on Hot Space and that awful solo album he put out at around the same time.
Fun In Space
That was a great album and this was a particularly good single:
Good Call
Alan, I remember buying it - surprisingly good - yeah - not sure I agree about the remaining albums being the RT show though. The Works was a couple of tracks short of a decent effort when I think about it.
Even Lou Reed/Metallica album
surely cannot be as bad as Love Beach?
Oooh...
Lou Reed and ELP - Love Beach 2012.
Sexy.
A disgruntled Metallica fan
This impies that Hitler would be a Metallica fan.
Makes sense. I can imagine him with all those bull-necked white blokes in black shirts.
my take on this
To quote Ted Nugent (on another subject many years ago) this Metallica-Lou Reed project "sucks large quantities of dead penguin dick".
That Hitler sketch was the business and "Ze Fuhrer" summed up Metallica very well. Their record has been patchy since the Black Album. St Anger was the pits. Its probably the worst mainstream heavy metal album from a popular band ever in the history of rock'n'roll.
Their best stuff is easily Master of Puppets and the early thrash albums when they were a hungry band re defining the sound of American undergound metal. But they are damn good live. No doubt about it.
"worst mainstream heavy metal album from a popular band"
That's a bold statement. Iron Maiden made some howlers after Somewhere in Time. And how may AC/DC albums were any good after the one with the cannon on it? But still, even so, if St Anger is really going for the prize, it needs to beat THIS bad boy.
*shudders*
That's the only Sabbath album
with Ian Gillan on vocals.
Gillan tells a great story about how he was still learning the words to many of the Sabbath classics when he played his first gig with the band. He wrote out the lyrics to the songs on sheets of paper and sticky-taped them to the stage next to the mic stand.
What Ian hadn't bargained for though was that heavy metal trademark - dry ice smoke. As the first number began, the stage was totally filled with clouds of the stuff up to knee height, completely hiding his lyric sheets!
For the rest of the set the audience was confronted with the comical sight of Gillan continually bobbing down out of sight into the smoke to read his next few lines, then popping up again to sing them.
A true Spinal Tap moment. No wonder he only lasted one album!
All true - I was there
Reading festival 1983. He had to rely on a lot of his Child In Time-type screaming every time he forgot lyrics. However the encores of Smoke On The Water and Paranoid were great.
Also Bev Bevan was on drums. Makes a change from ELO, I suppose.
Born Again - Seminal!
the first Speed Metal album and my fave BS ellpee, only other one that comes close is Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
all IMO of course
That
was truly horrible..so many "metal" bands have copied Metallica's awful dirge style..crap..no rhythm, no melody and no ideas..Oh and Uncle Lou, give up, go home..your missus has more ideas in her little finger..fucking dire please stop the torture now! Oh right, I dont have to listen! Thank God!
Slightly unfair
Master of Puppets (esp Battery and the title track) was pretty sonically innovative in metal for the mid 80's when Van Halen, Motley Crue and Poison were your metal alternatives - certainly has melody and rhythm and The Black Album is very listenable.
They've certainly become a knowing parody of themselves over the past 15 or so years.
Yes Metallica now do tunesless meandering jamming
as part of their increasingly desperate search for their m*jo. Howver in the 80's they were rifftastically focused, intense and fucking METAL!!!!!!!
These days they should listen more to Lar's Ulrich's dad
"Delete that"
The thing with Reed sounds like pish though. Pish not Phish
Master of Puppets eh?
Spoonerise that and it's quite funny ... but i bet someone has done it already ... and yes they have ...

I've got a Metallica type font
which is called 'Pastor Of Muppets'
...
The 'licca have so many die hard fans that this has a shot at being Lou's biggest seller ever.
Hilarious!!
Pleasantly surprised
After reading the comments above I expected something much worse... and whilst I wouldn't cross the road to go near to a pub playing it, I would take it over anything overtly autotuned, any day of the week.
Not interested
But I am looking forward to the release of 'Lou Reed' by Metallica & Lulu.
Now that
I would buy!
Even funnier
than the real thing. Bravo.
More of this kind of thing!!
It alienates the core audience of both artistes, creates a common ground populated by the fat end of fuck all and gives me the giggles.
Can any readers think of any other acts of musical collaboration that can equal this, and can anyone out there arrange them?
Yes...
...there was a Reg Presley & Suzi Quatro disco remake of 'Wild Thing' in the 80s. Neither artiste came out of it with any credit. Neither fan base was demanding such a thing.
Somewhere in the fiery depths of hell...
Lester Bangs: "HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. AAAHH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA... wheeze... AAARRRGGHHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA... cough... splurt... EEEUURRRGGHA HA HA HA HA."
Apparently it's over 90 minutes long?
I love the review in The Quietus:
"95 tedious and excruciating minutes simply eats into time that could be more constructively spent watching the grass grow or perhaps wanking into a sock......For the majority of this ghastly, tuneless work...the effect is that of Lou Reed ranting over some Metallica demos that were never intended for human consumption....this turgid collection continues to trawl its sorry ass with all the vigour of an elephant swimming in a tar pit...it's quite possibly a candidate for one of the worst albums ever made. "
That's just nit-picking isn't it?
He's clearly being listening to this
but he left the jokes out. Donkeh...
This
surely, is the worst album of all time by a major artist.
Santana - Guitar Heaven.
I love Santana and I love Smoke On The Water, but put the two together and you've got something truly gruesome.
And that's not all. Carlos also has a go at Sunshine of Your Love, Can't You Hear Me Knocking, Whole Lotta Love, While My Guitar Gently Weeps and, well, you get the picture.
Poor Carlos
That actually looks like one of those endless repackages of his pre-CBS demos, usually called something like 'Acapulco Sunrise'. Behold! It's a recent release. Wow.
After the runaway success of the Supernatural album
(15 million sold in the US alone) poor Carlos is now seemingly forever trapped in an endless cycle of collaboration albums.
He should give Lou Reed a call...
A Latin-tinged version of The Kids would set tills-a-ringin' across the globe.
Out of touch
I used to quite like Santana in the seventies and eighties, seen them live and everything. I remember a comeback LP about 10 years ago, and then a single with Michelle Branch singing, which I thought was excellent. Then they suddenly fell of my radar. Thankfully, it turns out. The LP above looks shocking.
Double face palm.
Tragic. Truly worse than anything could possibly be. Even Lou Reed.
Carlos Disaster
Sweet mother of fairy jesus that is quite the most terrible version of Smoke on the Water I can imagine, let alone actually hear. Once you've got over the horrible guitar sound, the drummer is so spectacularly late and slow, it's like eating a sick-flavoured quiche through a straw. Or something.
I downloaded Lulu
It is an hour and a half long and has about eleven tracks. The last track is twenty minutes long. Yesterday, I read a story in the news concerning a woman convicted of biting her boyfriend's testicles off during an argument. This is the aural equivalent. Rumour has it that they will be performing some of it on Later with Jools in a week or so. Should be the TV comedy highlight of the week.
"biting her boyfriend's testicles off during an argument"
I have to say I find this frankly improbable. How can you shout at someone while biting their testicles off? What kind of elaborate point can the boyfriend have been making to have been distracted to the extent that he didn't notice his girlfiriend's head in his groinal vicinities, evil intent or no?
That story is a load of, er, rubbish.
While I'm here, can any sentence be more calculated to strike terror into the hearts of all good men than, "The last track is twenty minutes long".
If I may comment, as an aside...
While I'm here, can any sentence be more calculated to strike terror into the hearts of all good men than, "The last track is twenty minutes long".
How about
"Biting her boyfriend's testicles off during an argument"?
The second hurts the boyfriend.
The first hurts us all.
Only 20 minutes long?
For us Grateful Dead fans, a 20-minute track is pretty concise and snappy. The medley of "Dark Star/That's It For the Other One /Turn on your Lovelight" on Dick's Picks volume 4 goes on for over 90 minutes.
Yes
but in it's favour it's good to listen to.
When that was being recorded
they were either all looking at each other earnestly and stroking their chins thinking 'we've doen something really, like, deep here man.'
Or they were rolling around pissing themselves with laughter, slapping their thighs and pounding their fists on the floor.
Either way, keep it to yourselves lads.
David Quantic
Gives it four stars in Uncut. Jesus.
Taste by The Telescopes
is the worst album of all time.
Released in 88 or 89 - vaguely MBV esque without the wit or invention. Or tune. Or vocal.
Truly, truly shite.
Ref the Lou Reed/Metallica album, can I refer to Apu from The Simpsons..
"What WERE you thinking man?!"
I don't know about...
I don't know about the worst of all time, but these are albums from artists that I previously liked, but were so bad it went beyond a massive let-down and into 'I no longer like you' territory. If you know what I mean.
The Knife - Tomorrow In A Year
DJ Shadow - The Outsider
Digitalism - I Love You Dude
I also do not get the love for the new Bjork album, which sounds like a load of gibberish to me. But that's another story.
Actually that Knife album is the worst of all time.
I made it to 39 seconds.
Did anyone have to press the stop button earlier?
Here's a suggestion. I'm a big Pat Metheny fan, but what about 'Zero Tolerance For Silence'?
Doesn't count
The Metheny LP was not made for the mass market, so it doesn't qualify. Anyhow Song X is probably worse.
Erm...
I bought it from a shop with cash, so it does.
Good point well made sir
I meant - it was a low run album intended for people who like noise. No-one had any illusions about it troubling the shelves at Tesco. At least I hope that's the case.
Long may he continue to do whatever the hell he likes, too. I thought that Orchestrion record was brilliant!
Pat is God
But Zero ... is shit.
Oops... double post
Darn these sensitive iPads
*Old jokes home alert*
He's a contrary bastard anyway, Lou Reed. I've seen him "do" Berlin three times, and he never does Take My Breath Away.
Lou Reed
I met Lou Reed at Glastonbury when VU played. To confirm everyone's prejudices, he was a complete C U Next Tuesday. Cold, arrogant, rancid, emotionless prick who'd have made a great concentration camp guard. Cale wasn't much better, but Mo and Sterling were sweethearts.
Did I dream this
or did Uncle Lou really, truly, market a range of glasses (sorry, "eyewear") that hinged up at the top? The lenses could just, flip up, so you could see without them? I swear I'm not making this up. It was like the Opti-Grab in The Jerk, only funnier. Help me, please, somebody!
Oh yeah!
Weren't they called 'Lou's Views' or something like that? Ha Ha!
Thank you!
A google for "Lou's Views" brought up this link which shows it's not us going mad, but him. I'd have started a thread with this (I think it merits one) but I don't know how to post pictures.
http://swakcity.blogspot.com/2009/07/lous-views.html
Loo Read
Iconic!
.
and of course
Lou Rawls.
oh do tell
Need more info on that Glastonbury meeting!!
Didn't Mo recently reveal herself as a Tea Party supporter?
yes she did
I met John Cale once, he was a miserable bugger.
This Metallica/Lou Reed thing is basically a challenge to...
Beavis and Butthead to come out of retirement. Within ten seconds of that dirge starting I could hear them in my head "Hey...check this out!!!".
It's funny you should say that
but Mike Judge has indeed revived "Beavis & Butthead" for MTV. First episode aired here in the US a couple of nights ago...
Would you credit that?
More evidence for the collective unconscious or did Mike judge have a preview copy of the Metallica/ Lou Reed album when he made the decision?
This guy doesn't like it
He says it's like "a successful simulation of how it feels to develop schizophrenia while suffering from a migraine"
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7146312/lou-reed-metallica-album
VU Glastonbury
Drove down to G with my cousin, who's well-connected in the music industry, for a flying visit to catch The Velvets. We were in a backstage area before the gig where Cale and Reed had separate caravans. They were both standing at the entrance to their respective caravans, so, plucking up my courage, I went to Lou and asked could he sign my 'banana' CD. (Naff, I know) He gave me this 1,000 yard stare, grunted as if I'd asked him to massage my piles, and, reluctantly, made some type of squiggle on the liner notes. While I stammered some sycophantic bullshit, he continued to regard me with total contempt. His steadfast determination to be a complete King Cnut is almost admirable. I can honestly say I was near trembling as I crawled away. However, I quickly recovered and the went to Cale. Total miserable bastard, though not as intimidating as Reed. His demeanour was not noticeably improved by my stabbing my Bic into the webbing of his hand. Not intentionally, but I was still flustered from the previous encounter.
Thankfully, I then met Mo who had her daughter on tour with her. She was a sweetheart - very friendly, very chatty and, in startling contrast to Doom and Gloom, was clearly thrilled to be there. She was your average American soccer mom, but, at least, came across as a human being.
I was lucky enough to be up on the stage while they played. I was even luckier that my cousin had hooked me up with the tour manager. The reason for this was that Lord Reed had a hissy fit about 20 minutes in and demanded that the stage be cleared, possibly so his ego could be accommodated. His behaviour was outrageous and would have led to him being severely duffed up in any normal walk of life. Of course, all the stooges then turfed everyone off. Thankfully, the tour manager refused to have me ejected so I was able to enjoy all the gig from a phenomenal vantage point.
At the end, I accosted Sterling as he was coming off stage and asked for his autograph to complete the set. 'Wow! You got Lou to sign!' he exclaimed, genuinely amazed. He was a lovely, unassuming bloke and gave off the same vibe as Mo - just delighted to be recognised and feted for their past work. Shame he died so young.
One day someone will write on a blog...
that he or she met Lou Reed and that he was charm personified, a smashing chap etc. However I don't think this will happen in my lifetime and when it does I don't think it will be true.
I met Lou Reed once
And he was charm personified. It was in Birmingham during the 'Magic & Loss' tour and me and a mate were hanging by the back gates near his tour bus. There were a few other aged Lou fans, one bearing a mint copy of some gig poster from the early '70s. After hanging round for an hour or so in the freezing cold, watching the window high up the building where we could occasionally make out the Sweet Jane hit maker puffing a colossal stogie, there was a kerfuffle at the door and he came out, flanked by minders. (People are always 'flanked' by minders, aren't they? Anyway). I remember how small he was, how preposterous his mullet and how unbecoming his vast cowboy boots. The people around me started piping up. "Mr Reed! Mr Reed! Over here!" The vast minder continued flanking like a good'un, hustling his charge towards the bus. Lou Reed however drawled "I think those people want me to sign some stuff. Lemme over there a minute". He came over and was - well, charming. How did we enjoy the gig? How was life in Birming-ham? He laughed when he saw the old poster. "Man, where did you find that!"
Throughout all of this, I was rather starstruck and speechless and only my mate nudging me made me wake up and realise that the little wrinkled man was now looking quizzically at me. I fished around for my ticket stub which he signed and said "Thangyew". And that was it. Smashing chap.
I met John Cale a few years later, at an Italian music festival in Bari. Not unfriendly, reasonably forthcoming, very excited about "this internet stuff (this was around '98)... think there's a woman in New York City who's doing something about the Velvets on it..."
PS - Patrick, all true!
He was obviously not feeling himself...
that day.
The Day I Met Lou Reed
It was at The Factory, in the heart of New York's bohemian Bowery quarter, in the winter of '68. Morrissey (who later mined pop music gold with new-wave combo The Smiths) was premiering his directorial debut "Flush", a six-hour homage noir collage of Andy's stools disappearing into the toilet. Andy - dear, sweet Andy! - was in raptures, proclaiming it the most artistic movie ever made, although the projector exploded barely two minutes into the movie. Gotham's Great and Good - Mick! Hi! Bianca darling! - duly concurred. Only one figure stood apart, isolating himself from the esthetes around the luminous figure of Andy (dear, sweet Andy!). This diminutive, bouffant-haired figure was none other than iconic rock icon Lou Reed, then chartbound with dancefloor crowder "Heroin" by the Velvet Undergound! He wore a classic black cocktail dress teamed with steelyard worker's boots and looked fabulous. Not without trepidation I left the hubbub and joined him at the window overlooking the snowbound streets of "The Big Apple". "Look," he said, pointing down into the street with a black-laquered fingernail at the huddled masses thronging the Yuletide sidewalks far below, "Poor people!" There was a sense of fawn-like wonder in his expression, and I was touched by his compassion and awareness of the world outside. He turned to me, and I saw the lined, almost prunelike face twist into what could only be a smile - "Fuck 'em," he said.
Andy died, of course - dear, sweet Andy! - so many of us are dead - but Lou's art will live forever.
Great prose
Have an up!
It just doesn't work does it.
Can't mix them can you. Like pouring both milk and lemon into your tea. There's something just wrong about it.
Yes, but
I tell you what does mix, and that's red wine and ice cream. Pour a generous slug into a tub of vanilla ... mmmm!
1.0
Just read a review on Pitchfork that gave this record a 1.0. That's way beyond ouch.
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/15996-lou-reed-metallica/
And the review, which I've now linked to, includes a link to this very thread. The circle is complete.