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The Word Blog Guide to The Word Blog
It is not unusual for newcomers to this wonderful place to cause a bit of a kerfuffle, in most instances it is not deliberate, they just get caught unawares. If you are newly arrived from one of the other millions of blog sites avaialable on the web the humour, tolerance and general camaraderie (occasional pedantry excepted) of this place is unusual and unexpected. Don't get me started on football blogs. Anyway, yes there is the FAQ and Frasers firm but fair hand but I think we should prepare our own users version of the do's and dont's that make this THE blog to belong and contribute to. Here's mine.
Even if you are obsessed with a moderately popular 80's / 90's band from Scotland you should not assume that by repeatedly mentioning them that other people will feel the same love. Learn when enough is enough and move on.
Over to you.
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Be nice
but if you can't be nice, at least be entertainng.
Desist
from using the word "genius". It is the most overused (and inappropriate) word on this blog.
Beware of dissing prog rock.
Even though it's mostly rubbish.
For example...
I'm not rising to this!
Much prog rock is excellent, but let's leave that to another thread.
Don't pretend to be on a higher cultural plane than anyone else
And if you've genuinely not heard of Danny Dyer, EastEnders, Simon Cowell or Rhianna, Google them.
"Google" them?
It is unadvisable
To mention Heather Mills.
Yes!
It makes Mr. Bounce hopping mad!
Careful with sarcasm
Inflections and intentions are often misinterpreted in plain text
Remember that..
..just because you think Belle and Sebastien are shite, it doesn't mean that they are.
Or so others will have you believe.
Oi!
B&S are a fantastic band. If you come over here and say that, I'll scratch you with a hair slide and hit you over the head with a satchel
Don't announce your retirement
and then come back a month later, feeling slightly foolish.
(Hi everyone.)
I increasingly wonder...
...why people feel the need to contribute to threads merely to say they're not interested in the subject.
Rarely happens here, I'm pleased to say.
Annoyances
Oh that annoys me so much. Like people who reply to "help" posts on tech forums just to say "yes, I've got that problem too, but I don't know how to solve it either"
Please
try and keep your posts fairly short. We prefer The Great Gatsby to War and Peace.
Write as though you have a beard
even if you're a girl.
That would work just as well the other way round
And the bathroom would be 'all nice'.
OK - write like you have a nice bathroom
...but not like you have a bidet
Never, ever use the "N" word
Nickelback .... there I said it ...
Don't worry too much if..
Don't get upset if you start what you think'll be a really interesting thread and it gets no comments. It's pretty random what gets picked up.
A corollary
Don't get upset if you post a thread that doesn't get picked up and then sometime later someone takes your idea, re-posts it and it then turns into a runner.
Bonio IS a twat
and he doesn't NEED to wear the stupid sunglasses for spurious medical reasons.
Don't bother trying to convince the massive otherwise.
We're not all in the media
It would be easy to get the impression that we're all involved in the media or music biz or something. When we had a 'reveal' thread, we turned out to have a good cross-section of jobs.
Some people do just like...
The Electric Light Orchestra however cheesy you think they are. Get over it and move on.
I'm trying, honestly...
... it's just so difficult.
Ellen's Law (with apologies to Godwin)
"As a Word Blog discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Richard Thompson, Bob Dylan or Van Morrison approaches 1."
HMHB
you can add half man half biscuit to that list.
Except
I fancied that that should be Blackwell's Law
It's a thrill
to see your posting in the hot topics
But
don't overcook the goose
With
multiple postings...unless you have something meaningful to say
Don't forget you're talking to real people
Again, it's much better here than on other forums... but still bears repeating.
Imagine the Word blog as a conversation in a pub*. Join in, whether you agree or disagree... but remember it's good mannered & good natured here.
Sometimes the anonymity of the internet means people get a bit rude or aggressive when I'm sure they wouldn't "in real life".
So, whether it's about Bruce Springsteen's work or the use of another poster's grammar... don't say anything you wouldn't be happy to say directly to another person's face.
* Next Word London bloggers real life conversation in a pub: Friday 26th March. all welcome. (apols for threadjack)
Threadjack?
Man, I love Threadjack - saw them live in '92 at The Borderline...
However, obscure or unknown you think the artist you love is - someone round these parts will not only love them too - but probably played bass with them.
Like Fireworks
If you've pressed the 'post comment' button, do not return to the 'post comment' button. Otherwise, you'll multipost.
The Word is just a great big opinion
Do not respond to an opinion with which you disagree by using either of the following phrases:
"Oh well, each to their own".
"If you don't like it, don't listen to/read/watch it" (delete as applicable).
These phrases are the enemies of this website and their proliferation could threaten its existence.
The correct approach is to fight your corner, even though all reason and the cumulative knowledge of the human race might indicate very clearly that you are wrong.
The answer is quite often
David Bowie
Please Please Please
Post about punk/Industrial. No matter how many times you get told it's not "proper" music ignore the prog mafia.
Andrew Collins
Any post about anything Andrew Collins has written will divide the massive. Tread carefully. And don't mention the squirrels...
do you mean...
The Persuasionists Hitmaker?
But don't forget
the silent 's' kids!
Don't promote your own blog / website
Unless it's really funny or has one of those Downfall parodies on it.
Blogs
Agreed. One or two of these have crept in recently - this should lead to instant rebuke and the e-equivalent of a big red marker from Mr Lewry.
I might be interested in a listing once in a while so I can have a look at a few Massive blogs, but let's keep them out of the forums day to day.
Blog promotion
Generally I will delete posts that self-promote, but I can't monitor 24/7, and sometimes I'll let something slide if there's been a healthy response to the original entry.
Advice from BobD
Don't criticise what you don't understand.
When you post a You Tube hosted video in a thread
Please include just a few words to say what it is. Remember that some members of the massive have slow or severely restricted Internet access and cannot/are not allowed to watch You Tube.*
Even if we can't watch the clip, we might want to know what is, in your opinion, the best ever bass solo/guitar break/hand-clapping/scary kids movie etc..
*(yes, we know all about VPNs, Tor and Foxy Proxy - try streaming using these 'solutions').
Seconded...!
I can't see photos or videos posted on the Blog during the day and it is very frustrating being teased by reading others enthusing about "the best ever song", "this great new band", "what a wonderful video" when you don't know what is being discussed.
You can imagine the rush to get home when I saw the thread about "Lady Ga-Ga's exploding nipples"!
Thirded
And limited access to Spotify too
<phew>
it's not just me then
1. Please don't be snobbish about Punk Rock...
or bands that "can't play their instruments very well", remember some of those bands might have had a very big impact on certain Blogger's lives (well, that's me then isn't it...?!).
And please don't be inversely snobbish about Prog
We all know it can be a bit daft and pompous at times, but many of us still have a small, warm place in our heart for Tales From Topographic Oceans.
Seconded to both!
I was making the same point down below.
*inserts smiley*
some of us aren't embarrassed to admit
owning and liking some Goth music
By the same token
Some of us have spent years and years mastering our instrument and believe that those hard-earned chops have some value ;-)
and I was going to get my guitar...
... out this morning for a bit of a strum - then I saw those Nils Lofgren video posts and thought what's the point - and the bugger can bloody play piano as well!
It's like a pub
I see this place as like a friendly pub, with a range of people in it - we don't all like the same music, but we are bound together by feeling strongly about music.
Sometimes things you say will be misinterpreted - sometimes you will misunderstand someone else. I have found the easiest thing to do is to ask for clarification in case I have picked someone up wrong, and also to apologise if I have upset or annoyed someone. This nearly always leads to a friendly reconciliation.
I prefer threads where we talk about things we like, as opposed to things we don't like. There are many bands who I cannot stand (for a range of reasons from pomposity to twiddliness to ... anyway) but I do try to resist the temptation to stick the boot into them when they are mentioned. Some of them are other people's favourite bands and I accept that my near irrational loathing of (it really doesn't matter who they are, it's a general point) is not going to change the opinion of a poster who has a fond memory soundtracked by that band.
Considering this is the internet, we do generally all rub along pretty well with each other, and that is a Good Thing.
Kindly
Don't assume that because you reside within the confines of the M25 you are somehow more clued up than the majority of contributors from the remainder of the planet.
Does that really happen here?
I know the meedja at large is very London-centric and obviously The Word is based in London's glittering Islington, but I don't find this site following those trends.
There's a bit of gentle ribbing about the supposed North/South divide (personal bugbear that it ends up being the North/London divide, there are other places in the South, you know) and the meet-ups have been in London (though others are planned) but this isn't nme.com. Just because something's from Hoxton, doesn't mean it's good.
As a Northerner
I don't think it does. There's been a bit of fairly good natured banter about it from time to time, but all given (and taken) in good part. We are grown-up to realise that, usually, we are living somewhere we like at least a bit and are likely to speak up for it if asked.
Islington
As someone who both lives and works in Islington, I love the idea that it glitters. At the last count I believe it was something like the 8th most deprived borough in the country, and it's right up there when crime is counted. About 18 months ago five people were stabbed in two separate instances outside a club a few hundred yards from where I live... in one evening. I'm not claiming it's Bunk & McNulty territory round my way, and sure, there are some nice streets with big posh houses and neighbourhood gastro-pubs, but most of Islington simply isn't like that.
Oi!
Did you spill my balsamic vinegar?
That is not the case at all
I'm a northener living in London and don't have an axe to grind one way or the other. This is a very open forum, pulling in contributors from around the world, and from what I've seen any such elitism, should it appear, is politely dismissed.
If someone gives you advice...
...pass it on...avoiding corporate bollocks (see separate thread)
Read The Word regularly (a subscription helps).
Don't explain the concept of an FPO...
... to your FPO.
Why not? It's a compliment
I don't know if my GLW is familiar with the concept of the FPO, or that I refer to her as such from time to time, but I think if I explained it to her she wouldn't mind. She'd just tut, raise her eyes to the heavens and say something along the lines of 'yes dear, that's why we've got a central heating system that works rather than a Rickenbacker 330 Fireglow 12 string guitar. Now get your feet off the table.'
Men tend to be a bit dafter than women and wives/partners tend to rein in their silliness and act as a civilising influence. To the benefit of both in the long run. And, of course, it can work the other way - I can think of a fair few couples where it's the man suggesting that maybe that fifth bottle of Chianti and 'a bit of a bop' at 4am might not be such a bright idea. And they're usually right.
I tried
And I've got the bruises to prove it.
It goes both ways in our house
I'm my FPO's IIR
Idiot In Residence.
I ended up my FPO's IIR...
... in the spare room when this subject came up.
But most of all....
....don't pretend that your opinion is really controversial when it isn't. I've lost count of the number of times somebody has said, oh, something like that "The Shadows did neat dance steps" and then followed it with "retreats to safe distance". It implies that everyone else is easily gulled.
Please grow a beard...
I was shocked and surprised at the wholesome and clean-shaven look adopted by The Word Bloggers at the recent pub get-together.
I'm meant to be the resident punk rocker complaining about the beards on each front cover and the championing of bands that sound like The Carpenters and look like extras out of The Waltons - and yet I was the only one who had a bloody beard!!
I've never had a beard...
... until I started reading The Word. Coincidence?
Don't assume everyone has access to Spotify
If you want us to hear one song that rocks your world, offer at least one alternative to the standard spotify link.
A little while ago somebody put up a beautiful collection of "shoegazing" tunes. I was even more impressed he used a slightly more international option of putting his selection up through Grooveshark.
I know Spotify is the business for sharing music - IF you have access to it. For those of us living outside the UK it sometimes feels like your friends have that super cool new toy that you know your parents can't afford to get.
Or at least provide the artist/track name as a bit of plain text
...cos a cryptic Spotify link is completely useless.
we worship at the feet of
Roberta from Spotify™
Try not to describe
anything as "seminal" (unless you're talking about semen), and do not describe every double album as a "sprawling masterwork", even if it is - it's not even appealing when Stuart Maconie does it.
Please remember that not all of us live in London, and that despite what some of you might assume, Apple have a 14% (and not a 100%) share in the smartphone market; there is no-one more punchable than an apple fanboy in geek-talk overdrive.
Please remember that it is quite possible to enjoy both Eater AND Supertramp (but only just), that not all of us have an FPO and massivelets at home, and above all else please be mindful that this is a site that is mostly used by men, rather than a men's site. I hate to be a great big PC monkey, but the occasional moment of casual sexism is annoying, not because it's "right off", but because it's lazy and presumptuous.
And it's not daring to suggest that Simply Red, Phil Collins and Dire Straits have had their moments; merely true.
And presumably...
...that goes for "Seminole" too?
Bingo!
.
The Edinburgh Book Festival...
...managed to describe Andrea Dworkin as a 'seminal writer' a few years back. Her reaction is unrecorded, sadly.
apple fanboys
Except a Richard Thomposn fan in full flow. ;)
Use the UP button
If you read something that tickles your fancy. It's polite.
It is advisable not to drink while reading the blog. Many a monitor has been sprayed by tea/coffee/coke/single malt whisky in the past. Occasionally some posts are that good.
post
Just simply post, even if you don't think anyone will reply.
They'll at least read it.
Always Go Way Over The Top...
... in complimenting Word staff about a new format to the magazine. It makes them really happy - and none of them seem to realise that the implication is that the previous format must have been really shit :).
Well done
That's a really well-worded and succinct comment, Formbyman. Very well done indeed.
Why?
Why would a change imply the previous format wasn't that good? Surely the nature of print media is that it's always evolving and improving? I know you hate the 'football supporter' sycophancy you see around here, but you are perhaps overstating this one.
You obviously...
...couldn't see the tongue in my cheek.
In all fairness to him
it was buried so far in that it had actually tunnelled back down your throat and come to rest in your œsophagus. :)
Tell me anything
Write about anything you damn well want, from Punk to ornamental wooden hippos from Benin (of which there is one in this room at my eye-line at the moment).
Just be concise, witty and enthusiastic. There are some eloquent ladies and gentlemen here who make my day on a regular basis with turns of phrase you simply will not find anywhere else in cyberspace.
Make me laugh if you're in the mood. Make me think if you're not. Inform me anyway.
It's great here.
Tell us what you LIKE, not what you hate
Posts which tell me about stuff other posters love are a million times more enjoyable and rewarding than negative ones.
e.g. I think it was John Waite who put me on to Sound Opinions from Chicago Public Radio and I have been revelling in its podcast ever since.
I'd rather have that than a load of bile about how much Bono is a helmet. All right, already
We're not total pedants here...
... but txt spk & emoticons are 2 b avoided ;-(
I personelly try to keep my spelling and grammer good and make good use of the edit fasillity to remove typoos as well.
It's by no means compulsory but it does give the place a nice tone.
Personally speaking
I find the use of proper English quite refreshing. makes me feel like I'm talking to equals rather than gibbering morons who can't be arsed to write a few extra letters.
OMG PROPER LOLZ!!!!!!
Apologies... I'll grab someone's hoodie at knifepoint...
Excuse me..
Shouldn't that be "omg propa lolz"?
u gots 2be propa pdantik bout tingz if u wantz 2 hang wiv da massive
We're not total pedants here,
but there's not really any such thing as a typo any more - they are literals - a typo relates to a mistake made when compositing text for old presses.
Actually, just listen to ganglesprocket because I'm a cnut. Sorry that was a typoo.
Note: Emoticon here to denote irony please typesetter
Friday night forgiveness
David Hepworth mentioned a while back that he gets up early on saturday morning to clean up all the broken glasses on the floor from the night before. Thanks David.
I think that Friday night posts should be given a little slack. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has woken on saturday and had a litttle shudder thinking 'oh why did i post that?' Sorry for mine but it's the end of a working week and some of us let our hair down a bit and drink the odd bevy or whatever floats our boat.
Friday night 80's disco night was great fun though!
you still have
hair to let down!?
Luckily yes not that long though
Getting a bit grey round the edges for sure but not quite the mature looks of the Brentford folk as yet James.
In times of extant media overload
...examples being Led Zep at the O2, the last new Dylan/U2 album, the Beatles reissues and so on, think before starting the 25th thread on the same topic that week. The Word is pretty good at avoiding hyperbole, sometimes at times of high excitement the blog less so.
I've deliberated and cogitated ...
Be tolerant as we do not all share the same perspective, beliefs, humour or idea of what is appropriate behaviour. Maybe it's best just to ignore some things.
No one's in charge here other than The Word.
Just follow the FAQs. They're the only rules you need. No other restrictions should apply, no matter what anyone says.
Develop a bit of a thick skin - i.e. best not to be too sensitive.
Be honest when doing the Randomiser
Often the less cool, the more interesting.
Randomiser?
Now there's a good idea...
NWOBHM is still available...
and Paul Beard will be upset by that fact.
Patrick Crowther is a top chap and shares my love of Supertramp and we also both live in Oxford(ish).
And threads on Kate Bush and pedantic views on our mother tongue will be read!
Awwwwww...
How sweet of you! What are you doing on Valentine's Day?!
It's funny spending a lot of time on this site... I find I start to feel genuinely fond of certain bloggers from the things they write about and the way they come across, despite never having met them. You're one of them Uncle. I've enjoyed your contributions a great deal and particularly the fact that you are proud to write of your love for Praying Mantis.
Make a search of your chosen topic
... before starting a new thread. The self same subject may have been posted yesterday to which your added comments would doubtless be invaluable
Don't be so fawningly sycophantic
to posts by David Hepworth
Sorry Chabsy..
..God, you're so great...let me give you a foot massage.
Listen to me..
..and bloody learn.
Politeness, tolerance and brevity
The three 'P-'...er, the 'P, T and B'.
Don't Say "We've Already Done This One"
Apologies if somebody's already done this comment...
Up to a point
There are times when topics are re-visited - I think it is helpful to
provide the link to the earlier discussion, but just because there has been an earlier discussion doesn't make that the Final Word on any subject.
But I agree that baldly stating "we've already done this" is unhelpful
Fraser is the boss
Accept that Master Lewry should be listened to at all times, for verily he is the Kofi Annan of Development Hell.
Indeed
He has the effortless authority of a popular teacher. Anyway, that's enough fawning sycophancy for now...
Yes
That's quite enough.
If you say so, Fraser
That's
Sir
I see Fraser more as the local sheriff
Walking the streets, keeping law and order.
He has freely admits he has 30 Ed Kuepper cds, that alone makes him a man to be feared.
It's you're own time your wasting...
Yes, wrong spellings and misplaced apostrophes are irritating. Don't let it consume you.
Choose a silly name
and don't worry because Fraser will let you change it to something less embarassing someday, maybe.
Try not to make
grand sweeping gernalisations about a place you may have had a fortnight's fly-drive in and your company sent you to twice.
Aw, come on
If we didn't occasionally comment on the US, we wouldn't have the pleasure of your "You don't know 'cause YOU WEREN'T THERE, MAN!" replies.
True enough, Dav
although for some it's more "even if you were there, YOU WOULDN'T KNOW, MAN".
Word Blogs....help other bloggers please!
I`m a bit of a newcomer to all this but did pose a question last week to which no-one replied or even made up an answer and it`s a question thats been bugging me for years......someone "out there" must have a theory..
Why is the 10CC drummer Paul Burgess introduced on a live album as "the man responsible for the windscale disaster"?
Help me help me help me.....
Sounds to me...
...like a private joke.
I've heard a similar reference to it
in, of all places, The Goon Show. Eccles is described as "The brains behind the Windscale Disaster" which was a fire in a nuclear reactor in Windscale (funny, that). It happened in the fifties, so it was a good topical joke for the Goons, I guess...
The man responsible for the windscale disaster
It could be couldn`t it? But I recall there is some laughter from the audience so could be a big private joke.
I`ll have to go and listen to it now.....oh, and it was Andy Peebles making the announcement.
1976 wasn't Year Zero
It was one of many year zeros, all of which co-incide with someones discovery of the music that speaks to them.
Noteable year zeros include 1956, 1962, 1966, 1976, 1988 and probably many more besides.
Try to come up with
a more imaginative word for those common slang terms that seem to pepper most blogs. Y'know, the f-bomb, the c-word, ecky th*mp and the like.
Having said all that, my favourite censorship on this blog in the past has to be "f**uck". Still trying to fathom that one out.
Was that me...
... and another typoo error by any chance?
Genesis were
only any good with PG on the vocals, some say otherwise but they're meringue
*meringue means wrong
You're not
meringue there James.
Pie
...I mean "Aye"
some people here rate the Daily Mail as a newspaper -
but then every internet forum has its nutjobs.
I rate the Daily Mail
just not very highly, that's all.
Coat, etc.
Glastonbury is better here...
The best craic I had last year, online, was the Glastonbury weekend at the Word blog. Not to be missed.
Bang to rights
I'm cringing reading all of these DONT'S and ticking off the ones I've done without realising it. Please forgive me!
Only God can give you forgiveness my son...
or failing that, Eric Clapton.
This blog discriminates against poor mathematicians
You could write a brilliantly witty and erudite post, but your inability to perform simple sums will prevent you from posting.
if there is a north south divide
it would be of hemispheres
a number of times I have thought aboutputting pen to paper to object to various slights
references to bruce or sheila or crocodile dundee when a review is of an australian band, nay anything australian
one review, a few editions ago, suggested a band's retro style was because it took a long time for new music to reach australia
I didn't
but I have now
You have to realize, Tony..
..that yer average Englishman's antipathy to Australia is born of jealousy.
You may be able to clarify something for me
I'm Scottish. When we were in Australia (about 15 years ago), we were a little surprised to be called "Poms" while we were in Melbourne. This was done in a friendly way, not as a heated insult. I had previously regarded Poms as English - but my Australian friends told me that while they were vaguely aware of the epithet "Jock", they regarded Jocks as a subdivision of Poms.
Is this your understanding ? (Unlike some of my tribe, I do not strain every fibre of my being in loathing the English, so I wasn't that bothered, just curious.)
Most Australians..
..aren't good at British Isles accents..I've often been called a Scot or an Irishman (I'n from Yorkshire)
Poms covers everyone, usually.
We had explained that we were from Glasgow
But it didn't seem to make much difference - the view was that we were Poms. It was an inclusive thing - as long as they had a tag for us, that was fine. We had just never thought of ourselves as Poms, mainly because I'd mainly heard it in a cricketing context.
A great holiday, and a great place. In 3 weeks travelling (Cairns - Daintree - Alice Springs / Uluru - Sydney - Melbourne) we only met one asshole. (He was from Canberra) That's a fantastic hit-rate!
As a pom myself
were there not 'prisoners of her majesty' despatched to Oz from all over the UK, including Scotland, Wales, and NI, not just England ? Wiki reckons this isn't the etymology of the word pom, but since it doesn't even offer a reasonable guess at where it came from they can suck eggs.
Bit addictive, isn't it?
Probably the first thing many of us do after logging on to the internet is to check out this blog.
Let's keep it that way!