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The Verve: a fair cop, or plain bad luck?

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For the first time in years, I got out my original Andrew Oldham Orchestra – The Rolling Stones Songbook LP today. Recorded in 1966, it contains semi-easy listening (and mostly instrumental) versions of Stones' songs performed by session men, (including rumour has it, some of the Stones) and musically at least, has nowt to do with Andrew Oldham at all, I suspect.

Some of it is really good music, too. Most importantly though, it’s where The Verve sampled The Last Time to make Bitter Sweet Symphony. I have to say BSS sounds exactly like the version on the record (judge for yourself below), although equally, it also sounds nothing like the Stones' song. If it had been some other song by another MOR 'orchestra', I can't help feeling they might just have got away with it, or at least ended up with a slice of the pie. As it was, they lost the lot. Bad luck for The Verve, I say.

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It's a shame

It was The Verve's biggest hit, and they got no money for it (even though Ashcroft got a writing credit). One of those things though innit? You're always tempting fate when you 'borrow' someone else's music. Mind, they got away with this:

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Spartacus Mills | 7 August 2011 - 10:31am

Spartacus,

I had heard of Vangelis & Demis Roussos' work but have just ordered 666 off the back of this belter. Cheers!

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Richie B | 7 August 2011 - 11:11pm

Thanks for posting that, mojo

I'd never heard it before - it's utterly gorgeous. Is the rest of the record that good? I may have to dig behind the sofa to find some spare pennies if so.

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Joe R | 7 August 2011 - 11:30am

The rest of it...

...is definitely not that good. Ashcroft picked the best tune to sample.

Available on CD in your local Fopp for £3 if you really must hear it.

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bluemeanie | 7 August 2011 - 12:14pm

My pleasure

The rest of it is very much of its time and borders on easy listening, although it does have its moments.

To answer Shane, I still maintain you'd never pick the version above as The Last Time if you didn't already know what it was. And BSS is a million miles away from this:

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mojoworking | 7 August 2011 - 3:17pm

I don't know about not sounding..

..anything like the original.
It's a radical re-arrangement, but the chord sequence and melody are there.

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shane pacey | 7 August 2011 - 12:32pm

Or

theft?

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Mark JF | 7 August 2011 - 12:36pm

Another small lift - just an intro though

a bit like

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Chimney Singing... | 8 August 2011 - 12:10pm

Woah

that led me to this. I'm not their biggest fan but the beginning of this is like a bomb going off

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Chimney Singing... | 8 August 2011 - 12:15pm

I love this take on it

Sweet Soca Music by Sugar Daddy

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jimmyshoes01 | 8 August 2011 - 12:34pm

I can't find an example of it

but Boo Hewerdine's 'Sleeping Lions' is clearly the inspiration for this

(Ron Sexsmith - Get in Line)

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PeteWingrave | 8 August 2011 - 12:38pm
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