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The Silver Seas

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Here's a nice simple thread. Were you at the SS gig at the O2 last night - what did you think ? My first exeprience of the venue - clearly first view of the said band and I thought it was great. Punchy setlist - simple yet brillantly executed arrangements by great musicians. Lovely to see Mr Baker there championing the cause.

As I came out with my mate Tom he said "They will be massive in 3 months" to which I thought, sadly, no they wont.

But wahtever the long term outcome music won the day. Well done Daniel and the boys + lovely support (and fabulous guitar playing) from Charlene Soraia.

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Rewview

Who's going to do a Nights Out review for those of us who missed them then?

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Twangothan | 16 September 2011 - 9:17am

I was at the gig

having not heard any of their music before (I liked the idea of them, and my mates were going). Rather enjoyed the whole thing. However, feedback from said mates was mixed; half seemed to really enjoy them, the other half were disappointed that the performance didn't match up to the more delicate sound of their albums.

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Hannah | 16 September 2011 - 9:37am

Danny Baker was a bit ott

maybe tongue in cheek re the reference to the beatles and sex pistols.

They are dad rock, can't see the kids being moved by them.

Charlene has some vocal dexterity!

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niscum | 16 September 2011 - 9:45am

Great night out

I thought they were great, although the set could have been longer.

Agree about the lost subtlety, but close harmonies, loud guitars and thumping drums don't easily coexist.

Also the set was a bit one paced, surprising when you consider the variety of their recorded work.

As to whether they'll breakout in a big way, I've lost the ability to make that kind of judgement call, if indeed I ever had it.

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titmus | 16 September 2011 - 10:31am

Yes, mixed

Sadly I missed the support act, who sounds to have been good. And I missed the first two songs from the Silver Seas. In summary:

The Good
Daniel Tashian sang beautifully and seemed like a lovely bloke.
The rhythm section were great.
The songs are of uniformly high standard.

The Not So Good
Virtually no vocal harmonies - boo!
You could hardly hear Daniel's guitar for the most part, so I missed the beautiful chiming jangle of the records.
It was pretty short.

I'm glad I went. Not sure I'd go again on this basis. I'd love there to be another guitarist in concert, and to know the keyboard player was going to open his mouth occasionally and sing into that microphone in front of him.

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Rosbif | 16 September 2011 - 11:23am

Mixed feelings

I thought it got better as it went on, but overall it reminded me of seeing the La's way back when. Not because of any great musical similarity, but because both are bands who released albums typified by a real lightness of touch - delicate, graceful records - but who couldn't reproduce that delicacy live. It all felt a bit heavy-handed to me, like they'd brutalised the songs. Still love the records, though.

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Fraser Lewry | 16 September 2011 - 11:50am

Spot on

Yep, that sums it up. I was listening to Chateau Revenge earlier in the evening and it put a big smile on my face. There's a lot of subtlety that was completely lost live. This is of course a common occurrence, and they are by no means the worst "offenders".

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Rosbif | 16 September 2011 - 12:48pm

My wife and I were there

We thought they were really good, considering the limitations of the four piece set up and that they were necessarily light on things like flunkies to prepare guitar changes etc. Venue was OK, we were pretty much at the front and the sound was perfectly good there, I can imagine it might not have been further back. All four of them were clearly more than competent on their instruments and the songs not on Chateau Revenge seemed up to the same standard (I'd only heard Country Life once before, on the day before's Danny Baker show).

The set was short, suited us as we had to get back to the wilds of North Essex to relieve the babysitter.

Only slight downer was the person Daniel was meant to dedicate Home and Dry to was my wife as it was her 40th birthday but he got mixed up and started talking to someone called Storm instead.

Will they be massive in three months - I doubt it. They deserve to be but if 6Music considers their single too mainstream to play I don't hold out much hope, for 6Music or for the Silver Seas large scale breakthrough.

If their 2012 tour - current sole date London on 6th March - includes Cambridge or Colchester Arts Centre I'll definitely see them again, even on a school night.

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Matt Kelly | 16 September 2011 - 12:07pm

"Too mainstream"

I'm not sure it's that. The criticism I've heard most - and it's the one I share - is that they're too ordinary to break through and get national radio play. Like Capt U says below, clearly my "greatness" radar isn't refined enough because what I hear is pleasant-enough, more-or-less-totally-ordinary melodic rock music. Plus, they're not a 6Music band, you have to admit. They're 100% solid Radio 2.

But then, what do I know? I don't understand the fuss over Danny Baker either. Seems like a perfectly decent sort, but he doesn't half witter.

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Bob | 19 September 2011 - 9:17am

I was a bit underwhelmed myself...

...as though the whole was less than the sum of its parts, and Daniel Tashian looked very much like a man in a band in search of a solo career. That might just have been the lighting though...

Massive in three months? No.

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MarkHagen | 16 September 2011 - 11:58am

Hmm yeah

Kind of okay. A bit shambolic and not the band on the records. Baker and Hepworth clearly have a more refined radar for spotting greatness because I didn't get it from last night.

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Captain Underpants | 16 September 2011 - 12:07pm

:-) deftly put

"Baker and Hepworth clearly have a more refined radar for spotting greatness because I didn't get it from last night"

I'm sure there were more cutting edge kids and fewer fat geezers in their 40s and 50s at the early Beatles and Pistols gigs too.

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niscum | 16 September 2011 - 1:53pm

The last band I remember DB going batshit about..

Hootie And The Blowfish.

Ladies and gentleman of the jury, might I respectfully ask that His Lordship concludes the case to spare the plaintiff further embarrassment?

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Lenny Law | 17 September 2011 - 10:02pm

Can I agree with everyone?

Agree with all the above. Good and bad.

Sadly, I can't see them making it big just yet.

It's the kind of music that could - and should - sell millions.

Chateau Revenge has the same potential mass appeal as something like By The Way.

I think the problem is that they lack a hook, or that dread phrase 'a narrative' that will capture people's imagination in the first place and get them the hearing they deserve.

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There Are Some ... | 16 September 2011 - 12:24pm

They didn't act as though

it were a crucial showcase and in a way, that puzzled me. There are some undeniably influential people who have been championing this band for a while and without that, they would not have had the crowd or crowd enthusiasm they enjoyed last night.

There's a fine line between looking like you're not trying too hard and not trying hard enough and I think they missed it a bit. I think the next move might be a Daniel Tashian record rather than a Silver Seas one.

That said, we had a great time and thoroughly enjoyed seeing a band whose records we love.

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MyAmericanMate | 16 September 2011 - 12:31pm

that's it...

"There's a fine line between looking like you're not trying too hard and not trying hard enough." Spot on.

You were there, MAM? And you didn't come and say hello?

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Captain Underpants | 16 September 2011 - 12:35pm

I loved

every second.
I didn't want to hear the recorded versions reproduced faithfully (that would be a sort of karaoke thing).

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SirTerence | 16 September 2011 - 1:04pm

Well exactly

To do so would have required a much larger ensemble than he could probably afford to bring and it would end up being like listening to the record whilst sweating with some mates.

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MyAmericanMate | 16 September 2011 - 1:16pm

That's pretty much what I

That's pretty much what I meant by "considering the limitations of the four piece set up and that they were necessarily light on things like flunkies to prepare guitar changes etc." above.

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Matt Kelly | 16 September 2011 - 2:08pm

No manners

Next time. Promise.

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MyAmericanMate | 16 September 2011 - 1:12pm

See you

tonight then!

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Captain Underpants | 16 September 2011 - 2:25pm

Thanks for the invite

but having a hall pass last night means I'm watching the mini-mates tonight. Enjoy.

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MyAmericanMate | 16 September 2011 - 2:36pm
MyAmericanMate | 16 September 2011 - 1:48pm

i had a grand ol time,

i had a grand ol time, thought the band were aces high, laughed at the skewed make up of the audience and generally thrilled at the buzz this outfit have generated. Wouldn't have missed it for the world.

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trakka62 | 16 September 2011 - 2:30pm

I didn't miss the delicacy

But then I like a 'beefed up' live sound (see also Eels earlier this year) and the delicacy would probsbly have got lost in the hubbub (it was a bit noisy in the cheap seats).

Obviously they will not be The Next Big Thing, but they are a tight little unit with some good tunes and should be cherished.

Those suggesting a solo career beckons might just be right you know...

Oh and more generally, what a great night out with a whole bunch of lovely people. Thanks all.

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Paul Waring | 16 September 2011 - 3:56pm

If you like the Silver Seas then check out...

Josh Rouse particularly 1972 and Nashville which to these ears are two of the best albums in last 10 years. Interestingly Daniel Tashian played in Josh's band and co-wrote some songs.
Having initially posted this thread good to see the expected mix of feedback. I agree with everything ie yes it didn't have the subtle dynamics of the albums but then to do that would require an expensive set of musicians which I guess was not feasible given the small nature of the gig - maybe next time . I could have done with the drums down a notch and the guitar up by about the same amount.
Also note Daniel has solo album out and on Spotify - slightly different kind of sound but broadly in same vein as the Seas

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johna_online | 17 September 2011 - 3:32pm

Next SS concert in London

Will be at The Borderline on 6 March. Tickets just released

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andrewdavidlong | 17 September 2011 - 11:03pm

So not the big time then !!

6 March - Borderline ?? Its not a very ambitious plan is it. I guess they have answered the question raised at the start of this thread ie will they be big in 3 months. I can only think that this is more of an ad-hoc project for them rather than a focussed career move.

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johna_online | 19 September 2011 - 8:42am

Radcliffe & Maconie currently playing 'Best things in life'

the big time is assured!

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Matt Kelly | 19 September 2011 - 2:28pm

Also on Later with Jools Holland

October 4th & 7th, a veritable media blitz.

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Matt Kelly | 22 September 2011 - 3:46pm
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